00:03:20 syv: Aaand Deltarune just finished downloading, so I'll try speedtest again.
00:07:10 syv: Still just gives errors...
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05:06:31 ER: also downloaded the rest of final space, as requested.
05:07:06 syv: Goodie. Now when
MJ gets it, I can have space to not upload the other shows, because my internet is a cripple.
05:07:50 syv: Was there an E10 included? I uploaded one, and it used to be there, but earlier Dropbox decided I was suddenly over capacity (despite not adding anything for days), and E10 disappeared.
05:11:26 syv: Wonder if it'll suddenly reappear upon deleting the others. That would be nice.
06:17:44 ER: should get to work on nested soon, but it's a bit of a cold start.
06:18:22 ER: for now I'm tired, so it would be stupid of me to waste time on it tonight.
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09:06:14 Devastator: wasn't expecting to see you today.
09:07:47 syv: You talked to me earlier "today" for
09:07:57 Devastator: well, for me it was earlier today.
09:08:01 Devastator: I talked with you before work.
09:08:04 Devastator: it's not after work.
09:10:28 syv: I'll probably be sleeping soon. I just, Warframe's update has been downloading almost the whole day, and I really really want to open it up.
09:11:00 syv: Yes, it is a terrible game, which I love.
09:18:08 syv: And fang prime, which is kinda ironic since I've been looking for fang prime *parts* for a long time, yet have little interest in the weapon itself.
09:18:54 syv: Very very good. I've wanted it since I started playing; it's *basically* a double barrel anti-materiel rifle, boasting the highest damage of any SR, and generally great stats otherwise.
09:19:18 Devastator: well can you take your fang prime apart for parts then?
09:19:24 Devastator: or just some sort of collection thing?
09:20:19 Devastator: That sounds pretty big.
09:20:29 Devastator: although I'm wondering the justification for a double-barrel antimaterial rifle.
09:20:34 syv: But the vectis prime... it used to be very hard to get (requiring several very rare drops, and THEN further luck), and then the drops stopped dropping so you could only buy already-completed vectis primes from other players. Which was prohibitively expensive, since it's an awesome gun.
09:20:40 Devastator: wouldn't the first shot knock the second shot off target?
09:20:41 syv: But now I get one for free!
09:21:20 syv: If they were fired simultaneously, no, but I have no idea why you'd want that.
09:21:32 syv: Probably not, since anyone with Twitch Prime gets one.
09:22:26 syv: The idea is stupid, and the gun is actually arguably *better* if you reduce it to a singleshot weapon (which is possible), but it's still a great sniper rifle.
09:23:06 Devastator: Sometimes style points are worth it.
10:17:30 syv: In practice, it's... I'm unsure how to feel about it. Making it singleshot turns it into a direct upgrade of the next best sniper rifle, but gets rid of its defining trait. But when it's twoshot, it's sorta hard to make good use of; it's easy to lose track of whether you have one or two shots left before a reload, which is frustrating when you can actually use the second shot. And while being able to quickly one-two a pa
10:18:57 Devastator: So go with the less-used option.
10:19:45 syv: It performs extremely well in two roles: quickly bursting down a tough target (which is *almost* pointless since there's only a couple bosses which are tough and skow enough for that to matter), and holding hallways against hordes (...which it still doesn't need the extra shots for, since it overpenetrates through three or four people, killing all of them).
10:20:08 syv: Otherwise, it's just "a sniper rifle, but with better stats".
10:20:50 syv: Also, it's actually worse in the second role than the Lanka, which properly modded will overpenetrate through more people, and turns them all into grenades as well.
10:21:08 Devastator: That seems pretty effective.
10:22:06 syv: It is very effective. The flaw with the lanka is that it has a long charge time, and if fired uncharged is very weak for an SR. Plus, mag fed, which means you have to take breaks from shooting things.
10:22:30 syv: Breech loaded SRs reload so fast that they're more like infinite mag weapons with slow fire rates.
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13:44:38 potato: alright, I found this link in the
ER subforum.
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20:38:17 Radio_Controlled: Good evening you well balanced breakfasts.
20:57:30 Devastator: headed to work in about half an hour.
20:59:29 Devastator: should we discuss prices?
20:59:49 Radio_Controlled: Was just writing a pm.
21:02:39 Devastator: some changes are that I'm going to be gathering mana pretty agressively for the next few turns. I might be able to get a +2 before you arrive, which should help.
21:03:48 Radio_Controlled: Hmm, yeah, that'd help a lot.
21:04:13 Radio_Controlled: Could also pay some upfront to help push to that +2 perhaps.
21:05:35 Devastator: I don't know how effective I'll be able at gathering mana, personally.
21:05:58 Devastator: Could be the town is full of nonhuman fish-people, ala steven king, and they'll become hostile.
21:07:47 Radio_Controlled: Heh, maybe then we can ride in just to watch you get chased out of town by angry raving fishpeeps.
21:08:16 Devastator: It's something I'd want anyway, so no need to pay too much for it.
21:10:31 Devastator: But yeah, probably going to want a bunch of stuff, depending on what I can turn up about this creature.
21:15:01 Devastator: I meant challenge dies,
RC.
21:15:21 Devastator: Some spells you might want to do by pieces.
21:15:32 Radio_Controlled: Are you -sure- that's an option?
21:16:29 Devastator: Yes. I just had d10 senses due to a series of small difficulty buffs.
21:17:56 Radio_Controlled: Then I'd kind of need to know how many of said smaller rolls would be needed to, for example, bring d6 to d8.
21:19:01 Radio_Controlled: Rather hard to discuss a price otherwise.
21:19:12 Devastator: Probably three d8s for a d12, judging from the results from the test spell.
21:19:30 Devastator: where one d4 was a third the value of a d8.
21:20:05 Radio_Controlled: 3 d8s for a permanent d12? Sounds too good to be true tbh.
21:20:43 Radio_Controlled: I mean, d6=>d8 is already a d12 difficulty.
21:20:48 Devastator: I can't say for certain, as I haven't done that, but that's the best guess.
21:21:02 Devastator: Nah, it's 3 d8 spells being the equivalent of a d12 spell.
21:21:24 Radio_Controlled: Then I suppose we'll have to postpone haggling until we know more?
21:22:03 Radio_Controlled: So d6=>d8 is 1 d12 challenge or 3 d8s challenges?
21:22:37 Devastator: First for certain, second is best guess. It could be two.
21:22:40 Devastator: I doubt it'll be more than three.
21:23:09 Radio_Controlled: Well, we can bother
pw about it once we get to where you are.
21:23:30 Devastator: Is he on the bone zone?
21:23:40 Radio_Controlled: I'll be trying to get lup to sell me his 'rope' word by the way, might help us to capture one of the bugmen alive.
21:23:49 Radio_Controlled: Not right now I think.
21:24:08 Devastator: assuming you don't have a rope word already.
21:25:24 Devastator: Hey, your jade is probably worth good money if you know what words are on it. I'd be glad to identify all the words I can see in exchange for say one of my choice.
21:25:36 Radio_Controlled: I do not, no.
21:26:01 Devastator: well, you could just get rope. What words do you have?
21:26:05 Radio_Controlled: True, but the problem is that not many other players are that kind of wizard.
21:26:08 Devastator: (that is, buy rope.)
21:26:16 Devastator: You don't need to sell them only to PCs,
RC.
21:26:20 Radio_Controlled: Could sell to NPC's I suppose.
21:26:38 Radio_Controlled: But dunno how rare npc wizards are.
21:26:51 Devastator: A couple of them burned down part of the last town I was in.
21:27:20 Radio_Controlled: I was thinking that in combination with my high senses stat, I could make some powerful traps with a rope word.
21:27:35 Devastator: what words do you have?
21:27:58 Radio_Controlled: Regular rope doesn't jump up and constrict it's target while dragging the victim back to me, for example.
21:28:18 Devastator: Vacuum could make great traps.
21:28:20 Radio_Controlled: I have: Vacuum!
21:28:49 Devastator: Sharpen and diamond would also be awesome.
21:28:55 Radio_Controlled: Yeah, but for capturing things alive rope seems like a pretty good option.
21:29:06 Radio_Controlled: Gut reader and all that.
21:29:38 Radio_Controlled: Yeah, but we already have a ton of good melee weapons, so gains there would be fairly marginal I'm guessing.
21:30:53 Devastator: Sharpen as a trap word would do it, too.
21:31:05 Devastator: 'The monster takes a step. It's foot falls off.'
21:31:24 Devastator: Anyway, I need to be going,
RC.
21:31:43 Radio_Controlled: See ya, good luck at work.
21:34:11 Devastator: Oh, one last thing, sure you might not have anyone obvious to sell those words to, but neither do you have any obvious use for the one I'd take as a price for identifying them.
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