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03:43:25 Devastator: damn teamers in solo.
03:43:36 midnightjaguar: Yeah that’s pretty scummy
03:43:45 Devastator: Lotta people do it.
03:43:50 Devastator: I generally try to make a point of killing them.
03:44:04 Devastator: That said, it does mean I don't fake people out with emotes.
03:44:24 Devastator: unless someone tries to team with me first. Then I sign back and kill them.
03:44:52 midnightjaguar: Sow the seeds of mistrust
03:46:36 Devastator: it isn't the end of the world when people team up, but there's a mode for that.
03:46:44 Devastator: If you want to play co-op, play the co-op mode.
03:48:15 Devastator: I think it's mostly people trying to maximize win rates.
03:48:15 midnightjaguar: Man, this is a kinda dark set of physics problems. All of the questions involve people running away from either angry wildlife or large things running into things.
03:58:54 Devastator: as long as it isn't nuclear physics.
04:08:33 midnightjaguar: Heh, if I’m the guy who has to do nuclear physics this world will end because I ended up adding way too many zeroes :P
04:08:54 midnightjaguar: I’m not great at physics
04:20:26 midnightjaguar: I should probably go. Gotta get to bed. And scrounge a couple hours of sleep :P
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05:30:19 Devastator: Yeah, he hasn't been on all day.
05:31:07 syv: Gonna condense the setting discussion into a GDocs and continue working on it. Trying to rope
MJ into helping out, too.
05:31:27 Devastator: anyone you like, np.
05:31:33 Devastator: sometime in Jan in when I'm off work.
05:31:43 Devastator: although it isn't a deadline. If it isn't ready I'll be starting the game.
05:31:49 Devastator: ..after it's ready.
05:32:15 syv: Honestly unless I get bored I
05:32:25 syv: 'll prolly be done within a week.
05:34:27 syv: Something to note: I'm considering making the cats and mice live for realistic time periods, ~3 years max for mice, ~20 max for cats. I like the whole "cats are impossibly ancient cthulhu monsters" vs "mice die before they even grow up, they're not people" perspectives there.
05:34:47 syv: Buuut I could see that causing storytelling issues, especially for the mice, though they're antagonists,
05:35:20 Devastator: That wouldn't be a problem, although it may mean I'll nudge mouse society around a bit.
05:35:38 Devastator: that time limit makes for a few potential issues if you were planning on hereditary organizations, for instance.
05:36:21 syv: Mice are... weird. Hereditary organizations, no, but they're somewhat family oriented. Cats just aren't.
05:43:45 Devastator: not THAT family oriented.
05:46:10 syv: Ehehehe, I remember that one.
05:46:59 Devastator: Yeah. Sad he's gotta get off youtube soon.
05:48:43 syv: All the hatred for killing animals?
05:49:12 Devastator: Yes. Or just catching them.
06:17:11 syv: Hey,
Dev, you never rolled for polt armor. It's not exactly necessary, since the setting's mostly done, but still. Do you want to?
06:17:27 syv: ...Heh, that's a fitting typo.
06:29:23 Devastator: I don't know if you understand the concept.
06:29:30 Devastator: besides, ti wouldn't fit with the short lifespans.
06:29:38 Devastator: 'plot armour' is just the term I use for it.
06:29:47 Devastator: Dual mac-10s is a fun survivor build.
06:30:29 syv: You can dual wield mac-10s?
06:30:40 syv: Are you sure they aren't flocks?
06:36:30 Devastator: you can't dual wield mac 10s.
06:36:35 Devastator: I mean one in one slot, another in the other slot.
06:37:23 Devastator: Got a few kills after someone thought my close-ranged weapon was reloading.
06:42:46 syv: I'd like to see a quad G18 run.
06:43:29 Devastator: it eats too much ammo.
06:43:43 Devastator: plus it's hard to find them.
06:46:03 Devastator: plus the reload time hurts.
06:47:16 Devastator: Also, need to write orders for the FFA game.
07:03:55 syv: How appropriate for Russia.
07:09:51 Devastator: "Who in the Soviet Union was supposed to ride such a plane?"
07:09:56 Devastator: Hey, the real question got asked.
07:10:50 syv: Huh. So only ~2/3rds of cats are affected by catnip, while ~4/5ths are affected by silver vine. 75% of those that don't respond to catnip, respond to silver vine. Honeysuckle and valerian root also affect cats, but less than those two.
07:12:41 Devastator: What does silver vine do to cats?
07:12:47 Devastator: oh, and what does catnip do to cats?
07:12:58 syv: It's about the same effects.
07:13:19 Devastator: I've given a cat catnip but didn't see anything special. What's supposed to happen?
07:14:01 syv: For cats it basically makes them act a little like drunk kittens, and sortof like they're horny, but not actually? Like, the way a female cat acts, but without the noise, and they're not actually being sexual.
07:14:19 Devastator: What does a drunk kitten act like?
07:14:21 syv: I really want to say "like cats enjoying catnip".
07:14:46 syv: They get playful and affectionate.
07:15:23 Devastator: "100% natural" catnip.
07:15:28 syv: And sort of slow. Kittens tend to be rambuctious and charge around, catnipped cats tend to be more passive.
07:16:14 syv: They also look kinda drunk because they'll do silly things like walk a short distance, then decide to fall over and roll around.
07:17:32 Devastator: ..don't cats do that second one normally?
07:17:47 syv: Sometimes, if they're feeling playful.
07:18:00 syv: Catnip just exaggerates it significantly.
07:18:29 syv: It also isn't really disabling, like strong drugs are for humans, because it isn't a strong drug. A cat who's scared of dogs or people will still run away and have full motor control if they see one of those.
07:19:35 syv: Catnip is apparently also an extremely hardy weed, which grows in damn near everything and is quite drought tolerant. So I guess the catpeople could cultivate it pretty much everywhere.
07:19:55 syv: Desert cultivation might be a bit hard, but I'd see them making it work anyway.
07:21:50 Devastator: so what are hard drugs for cats?
07:21:53 Devastator: Do they go for alcohol?
07:23:03 syv: Alcohol affects cats, yeah.
07:23:40 syv: Only times I recall getting a cat drunk, they were also enjoying catnip. Only real difference is that they got reaaally slow.
07:27:11 syv: Silver vine apparently has a stronger effect, but is harder to grow.
07:27:39 syv: I guess I'm gonna be writing a segment on catpeople's drug agriculture.
07:31:20 syv: Mice trained to fear certain smells pass that fear onto their children, even without ever interacting with said children.
07:31:25 Devastator: You don't have a lot of cats, but everyone seems to have drugs.
07:32:05 syv: A lot of this is talking about the cats' civilization as it was.
07:32:51 syv: It's been maybe two generations at most since the war that ravaged their civilization, nobody remembers it, but they remember stories.
07:33:38 Devastator: Cat generations are probably about three years.
07:34:29 syv: Bah. They live hard lives in an inhospotable location.
07:45:40 Devastator: I hope you don't have trouble with catfights.
07:46:56 syv: Cats mostly only have fights between unfixed males. Even then, it varies by the males, and how much food is available. Cats with plenty are pretty willing to just let others hang around.
07:47:20 Devastator: never had more than 2 cats around.
07:48:03 Devastator: oop, that's not a good video for you.
07:48:08 Devastator: dead cat with eagle standing on it.
07:50:34 syv: The reaper in the pantheon is an eagle, or some other bird of prey, since birds fly high and eat both cats and mice.
07:53:08 Devastator: You know the image of a frog getting eaten by a heron and grabbing the heron's neck to avoid getting swallowed?
07:53:17 Devastator: It seems herons are perfectly happy to swallow live creatures.
07:53:32 syv: No, can't say I do. And most predators are.
07:54:36 Devastator: It's pre-internet, you might be too young.
07:55:55 Devastator: you can see the frog moving inside the heron's neck.
07:56:09 Devastator: no more of those videos tonight.
08:16:57 Devastator:
PW likes Cowboy Bebop.
08:17:04 Devastator: It doesn't get less stupid.
08:21:18 syv:
PW also likes Gantz, so...
08:54:01 Devastator: enough suviv for a while.
08:54:06 Devastator: ran into the same cheater twice.
08:54:21 Devastator: perfect accurate M870 and immediate dodges to pan shape.
08:54:33 Devastator: always full boosted and level 3 both armors.
09:18:31 syv: Is a "perfectly accurate" M860 one which fires all projectiles with the same vector?
09:19:21 Devastator: One with a standard aimbot.
09:19:25 Devastator: and I mean 'pan side'
09:19:43 Devastator: it faces the pan side towards it's target.
09:19:48 Devastator: Might be a fully automated win bot.
09:21:50 syv: Oh, the pan actually protects from bullets? Neat.
09:22:05 syv: If it is a win bot, I'd like to see it.
09:22:23 syv: If you die to it again you should spectate and record it. Pleeeease?
09:23:21 Devastator: I'm sure I'll run into it sometime.
09:23:25 Devastator: or you can google for it.
09:24:14 Devastator: Yeah, but it's still depressing.
09:24:38 syv: Only if you're overly into the game. :P
09:24:59 syv: I enjoy chess, and even basic chess computers are better than me.
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09:31:44 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Intergalactic Day of Mourning for 2016 (2016-2016)
09:31:44 Topic set by Remalle!Variety@i2246816zi629tu21.vc.shawcable.net [Tuesday 03 January 2017, 06:26:56]
09:33:27 Devastator: Chickens like to eat chicken, apparently.
09:39:27 Devastator: Apparently ducks really love water instinctively.
09:47:25 Devastator: "Nothing makes you feel weirder about chickens than seeing them flock to the slaughtering site... because they wanted to eat the blood that was hitting the ground from the one being slaughtered"
09:54:22 syv: Yeah, chickens are really horrible animals.
09:54:43 syv: Have you ever lived with them? They're little bastards, the lot of em.
09:55:21 syv: I don't like birds, but I'll admit that some birds are affectionate. Chickens are not. Chickens are monsters.
09:56:55 Devastator: Yes I've lived with chickens.
09:57:01 Devastator: tasty, but they're very much food animals.
10:00:41 Devastator: Not very good pets.
10:39:42 Devastator: 11 kills and taken down by three people grouping in solo.
10:46:49 Devastator: beat two guys trying to pair up at the end.
10:56:43 syv: Still think you should record.
10:58:01 Devastator: failed a similar encounter just now.
11:03:43 syv: "The vagina of the cat is involved in mating" No shit, Wikipedia.
11:05:10 Devastator: 13 kills. Last one an axe kill in the red zone.
11:05:13 Devastator: won through sheer anger.
11:05:54 syv: I started reading the wikipedia article on cat anatomy. At the end it has a section on genitalia, and the information is hilariously short.
11:06:27 syv: "Female genitalia is involved in mating and provides a passage for kittens to be born" basically sums it up.
11:14:29 Devastator: Well.. what more is there to it?
11:18:44 syv: I'unno, Wikipedia won't tell me. ;P
11:19:07 syv: But really, it's Wikipedia, they go into absurd detail for the most random things.
11:19:42 syv: "The Masseter is a great, powerful, and very thick muscle covered by a tough, shining fascia lying ventral to the zygomatic arch, which is its origin. It inserts into the posterior half of the lateral surface of the mandible. Its action is the elevation of the mandible (closing of the jaw). "
11:19:59 syv: Versus "The Masseter closes the jaw."
11:20:37 syv: Or even "The masseter is a large muscle in the head which closes the jaw." which carries the same amount of information for most people.
11:23:40 syv: To be fair, it's prolly a good thing, since descriptors like "...great, powerful, and very thick" are downright fetishistic, but still. The dearth of words is amusing.
11:27:33 Devastator: Kills: 14. Damage, 1300. Taken: 257
11:29:52 Devastator: Mostly it's an off-peak time and I'm pissed.
11:30:10 syv: No, you can photoshop pics, VIDS or it didn't happen.
11:30:20 Devastator: you want a pic or not?
11:31:43 Devastator: no pic for you then.
11:33:15 syv: I should probably stop writing, considering my discourse is now about ten years younger than it should be...
11:33:36 Devastator: what's special about 1300 damage?
11:33:40 Devastator: I've had over 2000 before.
11:34:39 Devastator: I've had 2000 and lost
11:35:03 Devastator: I also had a 17 kill dinner where I took less than 100 damage.
11:41:18 syv: Obviously editted pic, and apocryphal story.
11:42:49 Devastator: Was a really fun game. Had to go up the sliding scale of weapons. Started out by punching a guy who had an axe.
11:43:03 Devastator: then got a shotgun and a revolver, ran into a guy with a M421.
11:43:12 Devastator: Next guy had the tight-grouping shotgun.
11:43:18 Devastator: guy after that had a spas-12.
11:50:21 syv: The spas *is* the tight grouping shotgun.
11:50:46 syv: Saiga is an auto M870, spas fires tight flechettes.
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