01:37:44 Devastator: I prefer 'sea ape' to refer to humans.
01:41:55 Devastator: so did Ally just level or something?
01:54:24 Devastator: The real secret to angel fighting.
02:57:57 Devastator: Just came up with the right solution for a problem I was working on some days ago, far too late to use it.
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03:48:20 ER: I have a new game system and it's like, SUPER exciting
03:48:38 syv: Haven't felt awake in days though, so haven't really looked at it.
03:48:49 syv: I want to be able to fully appreciate it when I do~
03:54:34 ER: It's not super exciting, but I do like the arcane magics I came up with :P
04:13:55 syv: I agree, for the first 40 seconds of the song. Then it goes downhill and becomes wail rock with incoherent Engrish gibberish.
04:14:19 ER: that's when shit gets *good*
04:16:46 syv looks through his screenshots...
04:17:51 syv: "(
MJ) I've got a song by some punk band playing that sounds like they just learned to play their instruments yesterday and then were just pumped full of amphetamines and shoved in a recording studio"
04:18:02 syv: "(
MJ) Honestly it's pretty good"
04:19:48 ER: decided to try playing sl1 though
04:19:53 syv: Then why are you using a heater shield? :P
04:20:14 syv: SL1 is a good challenge, yes. The lack of nice weapons kinda sucks though.
04:20:49 ER: it means I can just throw away anything that needs more than 12 str, 9 dex, 8 faith, or 10 int
04:21:21 ER: and that club is still fun to use
04:21:24 syv: GCS only weighs 1 more, gives a great buff, and still blocks 95% before mitigation, which in practice is ~98-99% resistance.
04:21:35 syv: ...SL1 can use GCS, right?
04:22:13 ER: might not have had it when I made that screeny
04:23:14 syv: It is heresy to not grab the GCS as the very first thing
04:23:36 ER: I took the pendant rather than the master key~
04:23:42 syv: Especially on an SL1 run since you really want to go get the RTSR, too.
04:35:14 syv: "Instant humor - just add Trump!"
04:39:13 syv: "Instant humor - just punch Trump!"
04:44:30 Devastator: Job was pushed back a week.
04:44:40 Devastator: did find some stuff for a few things in the intertrim, so that's okay.
04:51:45 syv: Frozen Synapse 2 really pisses me off. I've discovered several new (almost) gamebreaking bugs.
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04:52:38 syv: And there's just a lot of AI unfairness, which is kinda necessary since the AI sucks, but is still horrible.
04:53:03 ER: could test that new system right now
04:53:24 syv: We could. I'd have to read it first, tho. Has
MJ seen it?
04:53:32 midnightjaguar: I haven’t seen it
04:53:39 Devastator: good that the AI is worse.
04:54:39 ER: uh, just ignoring HP for now, chunky salsa
04:54:51 syv: The faction strategy AI is also laughable. "Oh, you just parked six full squads next to my HQ? Nothing suspicious about that, I;m gonna go send all my defenders to do random bullshit."
04:55:27 ER: that's one of the things I haven't worked out yet. Having actual numbers would make it easier, but not easy to come up with balanced values for damage and such
04:55:41 syv: "Hey! You tried to kill me, and nearly succeeded! This means war!" "I'll buy you a machinegunner." "Fine, truce."
04:56:04 ER: well, machinegunners are pretty good
04:56:08 Devastator: It would take effort to make a good AI.
04:56:38 midnightjaguar: Gimme a sec to read that
04:56:45 syv: Machinegunners are very nearly irrelevant in the hands of the AI.
04:57:18 syv: The only AI units that are generally problematic are snipers, rockets, and grenades.
04:57:26 syv: The first two being ENTIRELY BULLSHIT.
04:58:01 syv: My version is pirated, so uh?
04:58:04 midnightjaguar: Frozen synapse 2?
04:58:37 ER: do wish that pistols and such had a niche besides just being worse rifles
04:59:06 syv: Basically the only times I ever see anyone say anything good about the game is when it's in reference to multiplayer, though I think ~10% of games will be bad just by virtue of everything being buggy.
04:59:49 syv: "Oh, my sniper now has 0 TTK no matter the range, permanently. I guess I'll run him into your six shotguns and kill them all with point blank noscopes, hah."
05:00:53 syv: Focus diamonds make camping less effective SOMETIMES, but overall make the game significantly less predictable and utterly ruin combat between equal classes.
05:01:03 syv: Pistol aren't worse rifles, pistols are worse shotguns.
05:01:51 syv: They have similar range, but ridiculously huge TTK falloff, and can only ever beat machineguns if they get the machinegun in their focus diamond while within ~3 feet.
05:01:57 midnightjaguar: I suppose if your using slug that sort of makes sense :P
05:02:49 syv: Literally, if your pistol is standing five feet behind a machinegun, the first two shots will miss, and the MG will spin around and headshot the pistol before the third shot comes.
05:03:00 syv: They are ONLY useful for camping doors.
05:04:07 syv: Also, anyone who's seen the game knows this, but pistols hold their pistols like rifles.
05:05:27 ER: and they never shoot the inaccurate
05:05:49 midnightjaguar: They are Ivan in this case
05:06:09 syv: Actually they seem to be so inaccurate that they can't even hit their own fingers.
05:06:29 syv: Considering they need to be in arm's reach to hit.
05:06:39 midnightjaguar: I suppose that’s a plus for them :P
05:07:02 ER: pistols: outright worse than knives
05:07:09 syv: Pistols work how knives SHOULD work.
05:07:31 syv: Because knives can't stab people in arm's reach, they need to slam their torsos into things to kill them.
05:07:53 midnightjaguar: Perhaps they’re torso mounted knives
05:08:11 midnightjaguar: Like just implsant a knife in your knife
05:08:39 syv: Nah, they're visually held in the hands. Surprisingly, they AREN'T held like rifles. But they do kinda look like they're trying to kill people with hugs,
05:09:04 syv: Also, no matter how much money you pay for suppressors, pistols are never silent.
05:09:20 syv: Pistols can conceivably be silent on rare occasion.
05:09:20 Devastator: kill people with hugs.
05:09:46 midnightjaguar: Like a fucking hear
05:09:57 syv: Normal pistols with magic suppressors.
05:11:00 ER: in the future, suppressors are magic
05:12:02 syv: And yet knives are as loud as grenades.
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05:13:09 syv: Satellites are also magic, because you can see what's going on in the bottom floor of skyscrapers if you buy expensive enough satellites.
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05:13:52 ER: well, it's not like any part of the skyscraper except for the bottom floor even exists
05:15:46 syv: The AI can remove every wall with rocket launchers, and nothing bad will happen.
05:15:53 midnightjaguar: I had a discussion where essentially if elevators didn’t exist then executives in corporations would be incredibly ripped and would die of heart attack by age 40. :P
05:16:25 syv: The AI gets infinite rockets, by the way. The player only gets three rockets per launcher per mission, but that would be too much of a handicap for the rockets.
05:16:39 ER: they would work in the basement and/or get employees to carry them
05:16:57 syv: Rockets also peek at your orders.
05:17:00 midnightjaguar: But what if they didn’t :P
05:17:23 Devastator: If elevators didn't exist they would live on the upper floors,
MJ.
05:17:28 Devastator: other people have to walk up.
05:17:36 syv: So, how do we make chars for that game,
ER?
05:18:06 ER: character types are at the bottom, pick any of em
05:18:31 ER: they give you a set of boosts to your skills that you can distribute
05:19:18 ER: as stated, you should list both power level and skill level for each skill
05:19:33 syv: Why would anyone play a demihuman?
05:20:00 syv: Oh, is L2 different from +2?
05:20:25 syv: I see. Can we pick multiple and stack them?
05:20:37 ER: huh, yeah that needs a buff
05:20:52 ER: didn't think I'd give transendant a L2 when I made demi
05:22:11 ER: ah, but demihuman can make a non-body skill their L2, and can pick up Esoteric skills where transendants can't
05:22:17 syv: Novice should get a few L1s, master should get one L1.
05:22:28 syv: So that magic isn't locked to the last two.
05:22:34 ER: Novice and Master are just human, and just human is L0
05:23:07 syv: So half the players shouldn't use the arcane stuff you were so proud of...?
05:23:09 ER: You CAN use magic without a power level in it, and transcendent can't really use magic
05:23:22 ER: they only get body skill power levels :P
05:23:51 syv: Oh, so a master with +4 in deflection could manifest effects with 2/3rds chance?
05:24:00 ER: Yeah, Transcendent can't use arcane at all
05:24:11 syv: They aren't locked entirely from arcane?
05:25:10 syv: Sorry, I was being stupid.
05:25:15 ER: a Master with +4 in Warding can do warding things 2/3rds of the time, yes
05:25:19 Devastator: dibs on the kitten user.
05:27:28 Devastator: well, we need one, so I'll take one unless someone else does it first.
05:27:41 syv: Master: Power +4; Speed +4; Endurance +2; Awareness +2; Aim +2; Critical +2.
05:29:37 Devastator: Master: Power +2 Deflection +2 Aim -2 Aspectism +4 Conduis +4
05:32:45 midnightjaguar: demihuman: +1 Phleg, +1 Endurance, -2 Speed, -2 Awareness
05:33:54 Devastator: nothing beats Phleg.
05:35:32 Devastator: Critical and Warding.
05:36:01 syv: Good ol' 66% chance of doing nothing at all.
05:37:08 syv: It gets less cool when you have to stand their for ten minutes going HHNNNNNGGG to manifest any effect at all, though.
05:38:20 midnightjaguar: Hey massive magic constipation can be fun :P
05:38:36 ER: it's screaming to power up
syv
05:39:40 ER: it's there in my doc but didn't copy it correctly >.>
05:41:00 ER: Well I don't feel like managing a 1V1V1 right now, so who wants to fight first!? :V
05:43:23 Devastator: I'll summon some [kittens] between the two of us.
05:43:48 ER: The arena is circular, sandy, with solid stone walls around the parimeter. High above and behind some magical protections, the audeince mills around, unsure what to expect from this first round.
05:44:03 ER: Bringing any equipment or such?
05:44:27 midnightjaguar: A bunch of phlem
05:44:33 midnightjaguar: And that’s it for me
05:45:33 ER: uhh, okay you have glass vials of phlegm
05:46:03 ER: This guy across from you looks like a dagony sort. What are you going to do?
05:46:53 Devastator: All I want for equipment is to have taken a bath with soap that makes me taste bad to [kittens]
05:47:09 midnightjaguar: Use my phlem poweres to make him think fighting md is no worth it
05:47:16 ER: This would interfere with Cinduis
05:48:15 ER: I mean, if the somethings don't like how you smell it might not be easy to be a conduit for them~
05:48:32 Devastator: I'll just take a club or a bat or something.
05:48:56 ER: Well
MJ is pretty slow and unaware, but may as well roll for it right
05:50:26 Devastator: first tiebreaker is generally the modifier.
05:51:08 ER:
Dev Conduis: 6+4 -> L1 | 6+3 -> L2 | 1+2 = 3
05:51:15 syv: Says the guy with the better mod.
05:51:42 ER: well, let's roll for the phlegm
05:52:29 ER: you ended up with nearly the same results, dammit
05:53:26 ER:
DEV reaches deep into the bowels of [space?] and grabs hold of the first thing he [feels?]
05:53:28 Devastator: mine's still one better.
05:53:46 ER: He is now the conduit of something!
05:55:18 ER: MID tries to mess with
DEV's humours but instead rips a chunk of greenish yellow solid mass free from his own head, causing an imbalance!
05:56:53 Devastator: Go have the kitten drag the body of MID back to it's home dimension, for munchies.
05:57:35 ER: You have no [kittens], and [kittens] do not follow orders regardless!
05:57:53 Devastator: So.. what did I do last turn?
05:58:04 ER: [01:53] <
ER> He is now the conduit of something!
05:58:15 syv: Rolled a 3, and therefore achieved nothing meaningful.
05:58:26 Devastator: Go bonk my self-destructive opponent to death, then.
05:58:29 ER: a three at L2. You reached something, but you don't know what.
05:58:39 syv: It's RTD, where you have a 33% chance to do positive, 33% negative, 33% nothing.
05:59:55 ER:
DEV Power: 5+2 -> L1 | 3+1 = 4
06:00:10 Devastator: Hmm, that's a drawback with skill.
06:00:27 Devastator: Tends to fail more likely than it's supposed to, because high rolls don't actually score damage.
06:01:09 ER: thein/smj? thru
DEV conduis: 2+4 = 6
06:01:21 syv: +4 means that a 3 gets a reroll, but a 1 gets a 5.
06:01:34 syv: So you're trading bad results for rerolls.
06:02:07 ER:
DEV seems to swell with a something, and strikes MID in the head with amerable force, at which point MID's head goes somewhere.
06:02:31 Devastator: Celebrate my victory.
06:02:51 Devastator: You two go, I got videos to watch for a bit.
06:03:27 syv: Monolith Arms P-12 bullpup shotgun, loaded with less lethal beanbag rounds.
06:03:28 syv: Spare mag of frag-12 high-explosive shotgun slugs
06:03:29 syv: Light kevlar vest and helmet (worn)
06:03:29 syv: Forearm-length medical gloves (worn)
06:03:30 syv: Light cloth gloves, soaked with chloroform (worn over medical gloves)
06:04:31 syv: The frag-12's just because I expected to fight
Dev, and [kittens] probably respond better to high explosives than beanbags.
06:04:49 ER: The arena guard, who is a massive golem holding a spear looks over your equipment sceptically, but appears to see no problem. Perhaps because it does not know what any of your gear actually does.
06:05:09 syv: Also, if possible, I would kinda like to swap the +2 in critical to +2 in grapple.
06:05:38 Devastator: Better get the one-turn kill against me if you'd fought me.
06:05:50 syv: You better know what "high explosive shotgun shells" and "chloroform-soaked gloves" mean.
06:05:55 Devastator: I had a plan that would have brutalized you up.
06:06:04 Devastator: Yeah.. the equipment doesn't help that.
06:06:42 ER: modern equipment is still L0~
06:09:12 Devastator: I'm counting a number of consecutive RNG failures.
06:09:49 Devastator: 18 failures to succeed at 25% odds.
06:10:36 Devastator: Something in Fallout 3.
06:11:11 Devastator: The developing sadness in the streamer's eyes as he realizes the horrible thing that just happened to his hour-long record setting run was glorious.
06:11:16 Devastator: Anyway, sure I'll go again.
06:11:37 syv: I thought you hated facecams?
06:12:08 Devastator: but I'm not watching runs.
06:12:25 Devastator: I'm watching failures.
06:13:23 ER: I also built a Transcendant jerk if you want to fight an NPC :3
06:14:12 syv: I'll do that after
Dev, kay?
06:15:47 ER: This time the arena is just a narrow, straight, dark hallway. Though you can't see them, you can hear the audience outside, somewhat muffled by the stone brick walls around you.
06:15:58 ER: Feels like you're underground, somehow
06:16:48 ER: (
Dev's Conduis was worn off by now.)
06:16:50 Devastator: Go shift the motionless element of stone into my opponents hands and wrists.
06:17:25 syv: >Toss a teargas grenade at the strange small green creature in front of me, then yell for it to stand down. Immediately start pelting it with beanbag rounds after yelling.
06:17:29 Devastator: that is, the aspect.
06:18:52 ER:
SYV Awareness: 6+2 -> L1 | 6+1 -> L2 | 6 (HOLY)
06:19:08 Devastator: well,
syv goes first, game over.
06:19:33 syv: As you may have noticed, I decided not to oneshot you first round.
06:19:45 syv: Also, why is awr used for initiative, and not speed?
06:19:48 Devastator: ..that's a one shot attempt.
06:20:03 syv: Do you know what beanbag rounds and teargas even are?
06:20:24 syv: You're a cultist, that junk's not gonna stop you.
06:20:44 Devastator: I also know that teargas really fucks you up.
06:20:47 ER:
SYV sees the creature before him before even entering the arena, and having come up with a complete battle plan before hand, upon the match beginning he immediately tosses a teargass grenade and takes aim with his shotgun.
06:21:20 syv: Teargas hurts like hell and blinds you, but it won't stop you from summoning kittens.
06:21:43 ER: Awareness is you perception of the world, so it's what's used to think quickly or react.
06:22:30 Devastator: have you been hit by teargas,
syv?
06:23:00 Devastator: underground hallway.
06:23:13 ER:
SYV Speed: 3+4 -> L1 | 2+3 + 5
06:24:11 syv: No, at best I know people who have. And I'm pretty sure you'd be able to summon kittens while bisected. People have been known to walk around in teargas clouds. They should be able to summon kittens.
06:24:12 ER: also Speed lets you take multiple actions per turn, so it already does enough :P
06:25:21 Devastator: Why would I summon kittens when bisected?
06:25:48 ER:
Syv tosses down a teargas grenade and rapidly switches to beanbag rounds, at which point he masterfully plants a shot directly into his own face, shattering his gas mask!
06:26:17 syv: 4+2 is higher than six, now?
06:26:56 ER: He doesn't care about the gas. At all.
06:27:02 syv: (
ER)
Syv Aim: 4+2 -> L1 | 1
06:27:12 syv: That is breaking multiple rules.
06:27:20 Devastator: besides, you'll move first next time anyway.
06:27:23 ER: I am doing it live so fuck off pls~
06:27:56 ER:
DEV coughs on the gas but attempts a connection regardless.
06:28:46 Devastator: I'm trying to stone up those fingers.
06:29:04 syv: Put down the gun, go hold a chloroform glove over the goblin's mouth. Unless that would roll grappling and you didn't swap my +2 crit to grapple as I asked, in which case just shoot at him more while screaming for him to stop resisting.
06:29:15 syv: >Put down the gun, go hold a chloroform glove over the goblin's mouth. Unless that would roll grappling and you didn't swap my +2 crit to grapple as I asked, in which case just shoot at him more while screaming for him to stop resisting.
06:30:07 Devastator: Deflect the attack back into my attacker.
06:31:58 ER:
SYV Grapple: 5+2 -> L1 | 2+1 = 3
06:34:00 ER: SYV just goes up and grabs at
DEV's face, and the goblin prefectly performs the move to deflect the attack, but sadly his noodle arms do nothing against
SYV's steel arms!
06:34:15 Devastator: well, no hit at least.
06:34:45 Devastator: (of course it's a hit, what am I thinking.)
06:35:03 ER:
Dev stangle doesn't seem to care much about the cholroform glove on his face, or at least isn't showing it.
06:35:46 Devastator: I'd thought it would just negate damage and not reverse it.
06:36:47 syv: >Do not let go of the goblin's face. Keep rubbing it in, but similtaneously perform two shortrange snap-kicks to his shoulders, breaking both of them. I have +4 power, this is totally possible.
06:38:35 Devastator: Bring some [kittens] through a ceiling portal right above us.
06:40:52 ER:
DEV Conduis: 4+4 -> L1 | 1+3 = 4
06:42:13 ER:
SYV ties to position to deliver a few kicks, but just can't do it.
06:42:59 ER:
DEV finally struggles on the cholroform and is knocked out, but not before forming a stable connection with something... [kitteny]
06:43:56 Devastator: No chloroform roll for
syv, who is now in close contact with it then?
06:44:21 Devastator: he did lose that gasmask.
06:44:26 syv: Well, it is an arm's distance away.
06:44:28 ER: syb got up to L2 to deal with tear gas, he's fine for the moment
06:45:01 ER: honestly I'm treating cholroform as contact shit because that makes sense to me
06:45:10 ER: is reality disagrees then fuck reality
06:45:17 ER: Kitten thru
DEV Conduis: 5+4 -> L1 | 1+3 = 4
06:45:42 ER: From
DEV's fallen form, a shadowy form emerges.
06:46:01 Devastator: ahh, thought he just had a straight 5 on it.
06:46:04 ER: The [kitten] [mews] affectionately at
SYV.
06:46:22 syv: From his body? Not from the ceiling?
06:46:49 ER: It IS "conduis", not "kitten summoning magic"
06:48:07 Devastator: What am I issuing orders to?
06:48:22 syv: >Draw taser, tase the kitten while backpedaling towards the shotgun. Scream for it to put its [paws] up.
06:48:49 ER: [please wait while
ER generates kit's stats]
06:49:14 Devastator: Well, then, it'd be "Wake up"
06:49:57 Devastator:
syv goes first, then.
06:50:30 syv: I could roll 1 with L2 power, which conceivably could be wor... well, nope.
06:51:22 syv: A taser is a ranged weapon.
06:51:35 syv: A stun gun would be power, since it's melee.
06:51:43 syv: Yes, the terminology is utterly stupid.
06:51:49 ER: well jee mister know-it-all
06:52:36 ER:
SYV Aim: 6+2 -> L1 | 4+1 = 5
06:53:13 ER:
SYV shoots his taser and the projectile thingy lands directly on the [kitten's head]
06:54:39 ER: The [kitten] is shook by the sudden appliaction of voltage to it's [most vulnerable parts], but remains consious.
06:55:43 ER: However, it seems not to have detected any threat, so it lays down for a little nap on
DEV's body, still [convulsing] from the taser.
06:55:54 syv: ((It's not really relevant, but tasers function by firing two barbed electrodes attached to the taser by wires. They form a circuit for the electricity to travel from the taser to the victim. Extremely short ranged for a "gun", since the electrodes aren't very accurate and both need to hit, but effective against humans.))
06:56:40 syv: I've been roleplaying a cop-kinda character, so...
06:56:59 Devastator: Yeah, that's the only time you fired it.
06:57:03 syv: >Reload frag-12 into the shotgun before touching that kitten.
06:57:19 ER: Before you can, the master of the tournament sweeps in and places everything in giant impenatrable test tubes! Congratulations, you have won this round!
06:57:45 syv: There actually are two-shot tasers. Well, it's not called a taser I don't think, since "taser" is copyrighted by Axon, but still.
06:58:13 syv: Mundane equipment beats lovecraftian summoning yet again!
06:58:18 ER: This is a good magic system~
06:59:12 Devastator: I never got to make your back muscles have hatred of all living things.
06:59:16 Devastator: Bam, on the ground.
07:00:01 syv: You should've just transferred the viscosity of stone to my blood.
07:00:15 Devastator: Didn't matter, that failed.
07:00:20 syv: It still wouldn't have let you won, but it would've worked better than making my hands stone.
07:00:47 syv: Even if the stone hands had worked, I had +4 power. It would only have made it harder to merely incapacitate you.
07:01:00 Devastator: I'd have been happy with that.
07:01:02 ER: Living bodies do get an automatic Vitality roll against anything that modifies them directly.
07:01:19 Devastator: I just wanted the joints to stop working.
07:01:21 syv: But I have +0 vit, so I would have lost that roll.
07:01:36 syv: Shouldn't it be end, anyway?
07:02:03 syv: Vit seems like the "resist damage" stat, while end seems like the "resist debuffs" stat.
07:02:42 Devastator: I'd expect that the other way around from the names.
07:03:00 ER: same as why voltage rolls VS Vitality rather than End
07:03:28 syv: Vit increases HP, end increases stamina.
07:04:44 Devastator: (What I should have, should have done was go for stoneskin.)
07:06:36 Devastator: yeah. some kinda buff.
07:07:04 Devastator: taser no more, and beanbags wouldn't have done much.
07:08:26 syv: Taser probably would still have worked, unless you took the conductivity of stone, in which case the other stuff would be fine. Also, the beanbags did nothing, and would never have helped. They're pain compliance, which is meaningless against a determined conduit for kittens.
07:10:05 ER: Pain would probably eventually cause maluses to rolls, and you need at least +1 to use Arcane at all
07:10:58 ER: Like, if you rolled a high speed level, and just shot him rapidly, it would probably interfere with casting
07:11:39 syv: Need a lot of maluses, though, and the pain from teargas alone wasn't enough, so it would be very hard to cause -4 from pain. Even if it weren't, I had +4 power, just punching him would always be better than shooting him with beanbags.
07:11:53 Devastator: seems like the answer is the same as always.
07:11:58 Devastator: Go for the T1 knockout, every time.
07:12:33 ER: The teargas was basically resisted until he got KOed
07:12:42 syv: In any 1v1 deathmatch, killing the other guy immediately is the best plan.
07:12:45 Devastator: ouch, a guy 35 seconds ahead of the WR until the final split.
07:12:53 Devastator: well, unless there's match carryover.
07:12:57 Devastator: if you keep your buffs.
07:12:59 ER: might make more sense once I add HP and stamina to it?
07:13:13 Devastator: What I should have taken was defensive stuff with my +2s.
07:13:34 Devastator: do the same +4s, and take nothing but defenses for +2s.
07:14:57 Devastator: didn't you have a demihuman?
07:16:05 Devastator: I meant one to play against
syv.
07:37:23 ER: he wouldn't be able to set off more than the first page of runes?
07:37:38 ER: explosive runes aren't set off by damage, right?
07:37:49 syv: First few words at most, really.
07:38:24 ER: so you'd get at most the 1200 spells, then the explosion destroys the book and stops the reaction
07:40:04 syv: Yeah. Otherwise you can manufacture grenades by making little scrolls with fuzes.
07:40:22 ER: which would be admittedly nito
07:40:50 syv: Though, I would have to wonder about what happens when you destroy a spellbook that's carrying the collective magical weight of years worth of spells in it.
07:42:01 Devastator: It's a magic item, you can't easily destroy it.
07:45:13 syv: The runes deal damage to the page they're written on, and if you read two or three words before it blows up, that's 60d6+ force damage, which is a serious problem even for magic items. Especially a magic item that has not had *any* abjuration on it, and is instead filled with unstable explosive runes.
07:46:25 Devastator: 60d6 damage is serious issues for large dragons.
07:46:56 syv: And force no less, which is an unusual one to resist.
07:47:21 Devastator: very little resists it.
07:47:39 Devastator: although a lich leading an army.. there any long-duration temp HP spells?
07:49:10 syv: Uhm. I don't think there's any in core, but probably.
07:49:29 Devastator: TBH, 60d6 is still a ton of damage, in all honesty.
07:49:31 syv: Lich is still immune since it has SR, which protects against AoE damage.
07:49:38 Devastator: even with say 20 or 40 temp HP, that's some kills.
07:50:19 syv: The room he's standing in would be ruined, and maybe even his phylactery if it's close (does a lich's SR apply to his phylactery?), but his body should be fine.
07:50:30 syv: It's also only 10' radius, I think.
07:51:07 Devastator: I might let rule 0 override that a bit.
07:51:25 syv: Reflex save for half, too.
07:51:47 syv: So if there was a ninja in the rafters with uncanny dodge, he might have survived the nukerunes.
07:51:58 Devastator: Yeah, that's a save.
07:52:06 Devastator: although he'd have to save against each spell..
07:52:51 syv: ...Though, actually, if he saved individually against each spell, stacking force resistance with improved uncanny dodge would save him.
07:53:12 Devastator: not much force resist.
07:53:40 Devastator: aww, I don't get to see
ER's transcendant fight your guy.
07:53:43 syv: Half damage from IUD, so 18 at most, and that's only on failed rolls with max damage. 9 would probably be more than enough with some HP.
07:53:45 Devastator: wizard cop or whatever.
07:53:57 Devastator: Again, Force Resist is extremely rare.
07:54:16 syv: And 10 resistance for an element isn't an unreasonable high-tier magic item.
07:54:59 syv: If the ninja's spying on a lich, that should totally be within his budget. Not that he'd actually have such a thing, but still.
07:55:30 Devastator: Force isn't 'an element' for purposes of resist spells.
07:55:40 Devastator: It's only 'an element' for psion offensive mages.
08:00:36 syv: Apparently you're right. The only ways to resist force in 3.5e are being a force dragon, a couple esoteric prestige clases, and the splatbook spell "Forceward". At least according to GitP, which is pretty reliable.
08:01:24 Devastator: That's why Force Orb does as much damage as the other orb spells.
08:08:27 syv: Ooh, they have mobile surviv now!
08:10:42 syv: I punched a shotgun guy to crawling.
08:11:13 syv: Also,
Dev, wait until I'm out of the match to start >.<
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08:11:46 ER: surviv in too stressful for now, so I'm playing spulunky, which is never stressful~
08:13:06 syv: You could just play it while playing relaxing music.
08:14:17 syv: You could play it non-seriously and only punch people to death, letting me and
Dev be the serious ones.
08:15:04 ER: no see it's like a moba, if I do badly it drags you down too
08:16:02 syv: But we get to enjoy playing with you, so our lowered winrate is actually not an issue.
08:16:27 syv: Plus
Dev is on the team, so we'll win often regardless of how muchyou and I screw up.
08:16:30 Devastator:
ER, you know I'm full well capable of winning alone.
08:21:07 syv: And
Dev punches a guy with dual G18s to death, of course.
08:22:29 Devastator: had some lag issues.
08:24:12 Devastator: ugh, that was weapon shortage issues.
08:24:22 Devastator: I should have went for teh bank after killing that first guy.
08:24:27 syv: I got an AK at the end, but he had a shotgun.
08:37:27 Devastator: Gotta heal up earlier there,
ER.
08:37:33 syv: As in I have virtually none.
08:44:27 Devastator: I want to punch someone with one.
08:48:17 Devastator: you drop there
syv?
08:48:31 Devastator: I just started lagging like mad and was worried you'd dropped.
08:48:53 Devastator: ahh, dammit, was sitting next to you. Just let the guy with the saiga score the kill.
08:48:57 syv: It got better once I was spectating. >.>
08:54:51 syv: I didn't even see him until he spammed emotes.
08:54:56 ER: yeah I grabbed a spaz at the start and then died
08:54:59 Devastator: I saw the dead body.
08:55:04 Devastator: There was a spaz about? Dammit, missed it.
08:55:10 Devastator: and then I saw the guy next to the body.
08:55:20 syv: I hate shotguns in general.
08:55:28 Devastator: the autoshotgun is pretty good.
08:55:32 Devastator: yeah, they're good in general.
09:03:04 ER: well that was anticlimactic
09:03:31 Devastator: I got an autoshotty early which just ripped through guys.
09:03:38 Devastator: and we cleaned house with the batch of good guys.
09:03:45 syv: Though three of my kills at the start were one team.
09:03:46 Devastator: getting a knife kill on a fully boosted guy was fun.
09:03:54 syv: Who had two guns between them.
09:09:40 Devastator: Yeah, that's enough.
09:09:42 Devastator: pretty good, though.
09:09:53 syv: Nameless player, don't go running ahead like that while we're far behind.
09:10:12 Devastator: I would have retreated if I saw any trouble.
09:10:28 Devastator: the lower right two guys had one healing, so I wanted to get the kill.
09:10:43 syv: Do you want to do duo,
ER?
09:14:42 Devastator: the two guns among three players thing is why you split up a bit at the start. You want to stick together, but if you split up a bit you're less likely to come up gunless.
09:18:43 syv: Yeah, I know. I did always split, didn't I?
09:29:40 syv: Sorry for lettig you die,
ER.
09:29:47 syv: I though you were already ded.
09:46:09 Devastator: I got it once. It basically one-shots anyone without level 3 armour.
09:46:25 Devastator: or anyone wounded even a little.
09:46:30 ER: first time finding the scar
09:46:40 Devastator: Shows up a lot in the police stations.
09:46:47 syv: I don't think I've ever killed anyone with an SR.
09:46:54 Devastator: I saw a few earlier.
09:46:59 Devastator: the Mosin counts as one.
09:48:28 ER: I just saw someone with only a grenade kill
syv while he was frozen
09:50:04 syv: Two bastards punched me to death, then
ER comes in and executes them while they're high-fiving.
09:51:31 Devastator: What annoys me is when I'm outgunned and someone shows off after killing me.
09:53:26 ER: try hitting him with the sniper
09:53:38 syv: Well, I killed a couple people with a sniper.
10:00:23 ER: should have dropped my 8x for you, I know I was dying
10:00:36 ER: instead the other guy gets it
10:10:05 syv: Only 'cause
ER gave me an 8x, tho. <3
10:19:49 syv: That moment when you realize you dropped all your ammo for your partner. >.<
10:20:23 ER: yeah, protip is keep enough ammo to use
10:21:00 syv: Hahaha, a guy smashed a knife crate. I immediately ran over, grabbed the knife out from under him, and stabbed him to death with it.
10:21:13 syv: Then got killed by a shotgun, but still.
10:29:34 Devastator: I had a solo round where I got five knife kills to end it.
10:34:09 Devastator: Just had the last guys outgunned, and they all didn't expect the knife.
10:47:04 syv: FRRRRRNANNNNNNRRRREAAAFAGAH
10:47:28 syv: Got the AWM AGAIN. Shot the last guy with it TWICE.
10:47:48 syv: He had a saiga, went underground. Healed.
10:48:07 syv: Came up once the circle was small, saiga'd me
10:58:37 syv: I was about a 4x screen's length away up until the finale.
11:04:43 Devastator: 4x isn't too far to be thinking knife.
11:06:05 Devastator: saigas are a pita, so you'd have to sell the knife.
11:06:18 syv: I had three medkits, six sodas, and three pills, I was figuring I'd just outlast him...
11:06:36 syv: And that was after maxing boost.
11:06:58 syv: Maybe I should've rushed him when he retreated.
11:07:18 syv: If he was at like 20% HP my M416 would've finished him before his saiga could kill me, especially underground.
11:07:37 Devastator: a saiga can kill people awfully fast.
11:09:48 Devastator: 2 hour, 37 minute run, misses PB by 0.1 second.
11:11:12 Devastator: that's one part in what, 19000?
11:13:01 Devastator: catch you later,
syv.
11:13:04 Devastator: thanks for the games.
11:13:07 Devastator: streaming tomorrow evening.
11:13:12 Devastator: well, this evening.
11:14:28 syv: I won't be there, both for reasons of sleeping, and not watching DaS III.
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16:47:07 midnightjaguar: Shit. My apologies
ER, I fell asleep as soon as I put my head down. Left my phone on and everything. I really thought I had like another hour or two left in me.
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20:45:25 Devastator: Well, looks like a new challenger in the realm of the flying mount race.
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