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00:17:02 Devastator: forums down for you too?
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00:49:16 Devastator:
ER, didn't you have an idea for something on here?
00:59:58 Devastator: Yeah, the other day.
01:08:19 ER: You'll have to be more specific.
01:11:28 Devastator: Nah, you're right, you didn't have it.
01:11:31 Devastator: "I should devise some IRC-runable futuristic tactics game, just so that I can run it with the frozen synapse soundtrack"
01:12:53 ER: I also rambled about an AI tactics game, but that's just armchair game development.
01:13:44 ER: I don't have any actual skills in that stuff, so it's just ideas until I either decide to learn game
dev or throw my ideas at someone who is willing and able.
01:21:03 Devastator: There are some of those about here.
01:21:52 ER: People who have that skill and are willing to work for free probably already have ideas. :P
01:22:33 ER: ah, fun to play heat signature again
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03:19:45 Devastator: you know, that gun channel says it has it's shooter chosen because she's the same size as the average soldier in WW1, which, although true, in no way diminishes the obvious enjoyment she gets from firing those guns. ;-p
03:21:47 Devastator: Maybe someone should do space station 13 with a more conventional interface.
03:22:11 ER: Can't buy anything, and all I start with is two items that have a 50% chance to break when I use them.
03:22:21 ER: And neither of them are weapons.
03:22:38 ER: And I have a vow not to harm or be seen by anyone.
03:25:52 ER: the self charging swapper would even be super, super good if it weren't for technophobe.
03:25:54 Devastator: wouldn't it be worse if they were both weapons then?
03:26:22 ER: I think it selects non-weapons because of the vow
03:26:35 Devastator: go steal something then.
03:29:28 ER: broke my stealth shield due to misclick
03:32:32 Devastator: Fabrique National, Bicycle manufacturer.
03:32:37 Devastator: That would have been a bit of a turn.
03:47:06 Devastator: Is that a game over?
03:48:40 ER: down to just a rechargable swapper, and I'm tempted to have lady orchard retire
03:50:49 ER: swapped into a loot room, swapper broke, but the box contained a silenced cuncusive shotgun!
03:53:04 ER: knocks people out, rather than killing them
04:06:38 ER: one of the traits is "dying: you have 10 minutes to live"
04:14:14 Devastator: ooh, new pannencoek video.
04:23:08 MidJag: It kinda reminds me of DF
04:37:01 Devastator: guess what happens if you use hacks to have mario clone himself in mario 64.
04:37:18 ER: you actually create a boswer
04:38:34 Devastator: Game crashes, because it would result in a mario holding a mario holding a mario holding a mario, ad infinitum.
04:42:42 MidJag: cool. send me that link wouldja?
04:45:51 Devastator: It's just about at the end of that.
05:21:49 Devastator: we should watch something if it stays down tomorrow.
05:27:03 Devastator: Not sure. Could watch more anime, like say Cowboy Bebop or something.
05:30:12 Devastator: Yeah, that would probably be good.
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05:36:46 Devastator: Don't cats not listen to people in the first place?
05:37:35 syv: It won't come if it's facing away when I pour food, but will run over immediately if it sees.
05:38:01 Devastator: Wow, enjoys being vacuumed.
05:38:04 syv: Its ears don't track sounds at all, even if I scream as loud as I can right behind its head.
05:38:13 Devastator: I take it you have a canister, then, so you can take it out later?
05:38:39 ER: hopefully you didn't MAKE it deaf by vaccuming it
05:39:05 syv: It's too big to fit in the vacuum. :P
05:39:49 syv: And it was definitely deaf beforehand, considering merely turning on the vacuum made every other cat in the room start running around in a panic, while Leppard just sat there and stared at me curiously.
05:40:46 Devastator: Less distressing than the OC yesterday.
05:41:09 syv: Not if you're a fan of Avatar ._.
05:41:34 MidJag: Frankly after the movie that's more distressing than that OC.
05:41:35 Devastator: The low bar set from the movie should diminish the effect even if it's completely terrible.
05:42:46 MidJag: From the sound of it they want to make Avatar into game of thrones.
05:42:55 Devastator: Wow, that would be terrible.
05:43:20 syv: The very second quoted sentence is the exec bragging about how the cast isn't whitewashed.
05:44:38 syv: Maybe that's meant to say "Not like the movie", but it's still not something you should be bragging abot first thing...
05:44:45 Devastator: Always a plus when you're embracing racism in your casting.
05:45:00 MidJag: I"m not sure I follow
Dev.
05:45:56 Devastator: It's the only word I can think of to describe specifically choosing your actors based on race.
05:46:01 MidJag: But yeah
syv, saying that isn't really something that should be a big enough deal that you brag about it.
05:46:58 MidJag: You hire actors who look like the charecters intially. That's essentially just good casting.
05:47:35 syv: On the other hand,
Dev, choosing actors who look like the original characters IS generally a good choice, assuming they're still good actors.
05:47:53 Devastator: I'm okay with it for a different reason than that.
05:48:25 Devastator: It's entertainment. Tastes are, and should be, part of the determining factor in entertainment.
05:49:11 syv: This is not an argument I want to have.
05:50:37 Devastator: If it's good or bad it'll be related to factors other than the races of the cast.
05:51:44 ER: the physical appearence of the actors is relevent.
05:52:09 Devastator: Anyway, who volunteers to risk it and watch the show?
05:54:16 MidJag: I saw the movie, so there is no possible way it could actually have more concentrated badness than that movie
05:54:46 ER: I haven't seen the good stuff, so probably go for that first..
05:55:01 Devastator: I think it's extremely unlikely to be worse than the movie, but nobody has discovered the lower bound for concentrated badness.
05:55:47 Devastator: Up for watching some cowboy bebop tomorrow if the forums remain down?
05:55:51 MidJag: True, but like I just don't see how you could make it as painful to watch even like the first episode as it is for the movie
05:56:47 Devastator: I think the most recent bad movie I saw was Ready Player One.
05:57:20 MidJag: And I will be depending on the time we start
06:00:32 Devastator: Looks like episodes are available on dailymotion.
06:00:34 MidJag: Is cowboy beebop scifi?
06:01:05 Devastator: but doesn't involve children piloting giant robots.
06:01:06 syv: I found a 1080p full series torrent, but it's 60 GB...
06:01:18 Devastator: The quality isn't ideal, but it's adequate.
06:01:22 Devastator: Probably go with that, then.
06:01:47 syv: Nah, I'mma go with the smaller, 17 GB version. I get throttled after 50GB in a month.
06:01:55 syv: Can give links if you want, though.
06:02:26 MidJag: dorm wifi is shoddy for torrenting.
06:03:18 Devastator: Yeah, lets get the 17GB version.
06:05:31 syv: Obviously I can't confirm it works since I haven't DL'd it, but comments look good.
06:06:28 Devastator: That link isn't working for me.
06:09:51 MidJag: Damn it, torrent doesn't want to work for me at the dorms...and I don't have the house wifi either. I might just try to find a steady stream and pre load it.
06:09:59 syv: You may want to post it for the two silents.
06:10:44 Devastator: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3ab456edecaed3a984ca24e6658d88da8f82def6&dn=%5bCBM%5d%20Cowboy%20Bebop%201-26%20Complete%20(Dual%20Audio)%20%5bBDRip-720p-8bit%5d&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.zer0day.to%3a1337&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969
06:16:01 Devastator: I've seen some of it, there isn't that much continuity, so the time doesn't matter that much.
06:16:31 syv: I've seen some of it, from when I was like six.
06:16:56 syv: I thought it was scary. Beyond that, I have no idea about what it's like.
06:17:28 Devastator: I know there's a penguin in it.
06:18:39 syv: There's also a hyperintelligent corgi, which is almost as adorable as a cat.
06:19:12 Devastator: How many cats do you have, anyway?
06:20:35 Devastator: By hyperintelligent do you mean hyperintelligent, or just smarter than the people flying the ship?
06:20:39 Devastator: The two aren't equivalent.
06:20:49 ER: i haz a link but not torrenting it for now
06:21:13 syv: I will bet you that the show doesn't clarify,
Dev.
06:29:19 MidJag: Really they're both just relative
07:12:55 Devastator: Hope it isn't long. Maybe Toady's just gone for the weekend.
07:16:59 syv: You? You're more uppity than most anyone else I know.
07:18:40 MidJag: I might be up more, I'll give you that :P
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07:47:01 ER: I'm a fine blend of up and down
07:47:03 Devastator: I do like Inevitable Defeat.
07:47:09 Devastator: "Pope John XIX the 113th Pope of Alexandria & Patriarch of the See of St. Mark was, at that time, head of the Coptic Orthodox church in Ethiopia (unless you want to get into schismatic arguments about whether his appointment was fully in accordance with Canon 15 of the Council of Nicea, it probably wasn't, in which case alternative Coptic Anti-Popes are probably available)."
07:47:36 Devastator: Ahh, paradox wargames about the second world war.
07:49:35 ER: alright I'm gonna go swap characters and farm some fungus till my human body wakes up
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07:50:34 Devastator: Apparently, I have most of episode 1 and 23.
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07:50:59 syv: I don't think I understood any of that,
Dev.
07:52:25 syv: Torrent's 39% done, for me.
07:53:01 Devastator: Mine is only 10% done, but it's been slowed by the youtube video watching.
07:53:26 syv: Everything between "I do like" and "second world war"
07:54:52 Devastator: Inevitable Defeat is a good read. It's an AAR written by a user known as El Pip, better known as the 'lord of slower than real-time', who routinely writes AARs that last longer than the time periods they cover.
07:55:59 Devastator: This one he is playing Slovakia in Hearts of Iron 3, from the scenario that starts in July 1944. That scenario is loaded with supidity, and he has almost no ability to affect anything, hence 'inevitable defeat.'
07:56:29 Devastator: It's funny, if it takes a bit of an odd taste to enjoy it.
07:59:39 Devastator: Among other things, Slovakia has an 1840 level technological base.
08:00:33 syv: "Mengkukuo has joined Germany in a war against [virtually everyone]"
08:01:28 Devastator: A bit slow off the mark, yes.
08:02:06 syv: Why do so many of there people have more medals below their name than words in their posts?
08:02:17 syv: By both number *and* volume?
08:03:49 Devastator: Paradox forums have user accounts tagged to people's game distribution accounts. Basically every game those people own is listed below each post, along with a bunch of other awards for miscellaneious things.
08:04:29 Devastator: Lots of cases, particularly with the more recent ones, it also includes stuff like early access signups and the many, many DLC packs.
08:05:18 Devastator: People who are genuinely special have specific titles below their usernames, like El Pip's "Lord of Slower-than-Real-Time."
08:08:25 syv: Or "Fat Cat Public Servant"?
08:08:48 Devastator: Yes, whoever that is.
08:09:50 Devastator: Those are only granted by forum administrator intervention, and are at least somewhat rare.
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08:53:30 Devastator: No, it wasn't the berthier that gave them problems, it was the 8mm french revolver that did.
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08:53:36 Devastator: or some other one, dammit.
08:54:30 Devastator: I do know they said they had to handload some weak loads because they were shooting a literal museum piece once.
08:54:44 Devastator: but they do fire live rounds out of these guns.
08:55:33 syv: For what purpose? Just to see?
08:56:33 Devastator: That, and to see how accurate they are.
08:57:14 Devastator: plus a lot of them aren't that reliable and there are lots of failures.
08:58:32 syv: I find accuracy doubtful. For one thing, especially for more poorly made guns (I.E. everything that ancient), accuracy between individual weapons varies significantly. Besides that, they're ancient, and that can't help.
08:58:46 syv: I find accuracy doubtful. For one thing, especially for more poorly made guns (I.E. everything that ancient), accuracy between individual weapons varies significantly. Besides that, they're ancient, and that can't help.
08:59:51 Devastator: How much they shoot them seems to vary on the condition of the piece and the availability of the ammo, but generally both presenters shoot each weapon several times.
09:00:16 Devastator: Also, they don't seem to test any true rarities, just large scale production items.
09:00:27 syv: Which would test those presenters' accuracy more than weapon's. -.-
09:00:42 Devastator: Yeah, but if it's the same presenter..
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09:05:38 Devastator: they also are reporting on ergonomics, too.
09:06:14 syv: I suppose in the end it's really more about entertainment than being super accurate, anyway, so any flaws don't really matter.
09:07:28 Devastator: I don't know if benchmarking them would even be a better way to judge how accurate they are. Some of them have serious ergonomic issues.
09:09:34 syv: That is fair. The ability of the barrel to put a bullet in the same spot is often less important than how the weapon's used.
09:10:15 Devastator: Especially if it's got, say, a very stiff bolt and you have to struggle it back into place.
09:10:29 syv: The P90, for instance, is ridiculously accurate for an SMG (PDW, whatever), but it's completely impractical for precison use because of how far the sights are offset from the bore.
09:10:59 syv: Eh, that sounds more like a rate of fire problem, unless it's so bad that you have to actually shift position to work it.
09:14:23 Devastator: not to mention issues with the sights.
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09:16:10 Devastator: Worst invention ever.
09:17:30 syv: It's torture to give a man something he had no idea he needed, then take it away.
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14:59:34 er: What I'm hearing here is that a p90 would be the ideal weapon to put in the hands of an AI, because then you eliminate silly human user error, and the weapon itself is accurate enough to be useful at longer ranges than it was really made for. :P
15:03:15 NJW: grah... no summons in the undead burg. Going to be a bottleneck, I can tell already.
15:04:01 er: RIP ptde, murdered by ds repurchased
15:04:23 er: Which then committed suicide
15:05:38 er: Lower online populations in both versions combined than in the one version before dsr came out
15:05:55 NJW: eh, I'd have to ask for summons before the remaster anyway. Could be that it's a monday, and not everyone has holidays like mine.
15:06:04 er: And the two communities are separated.
15:07:06 er shakes fist at bandi-namco-bandi
15:07:49 er: They blew it all up the maniacs
15:08:14 NJW: there really wasn't a huge amount to blow up.
15:08:25 NJW: I'd have risked it for the chance of a good remaster
15:10:59 NJW: it's looking a lot like I'm going to have to do evenings and weekends for this run. Not too much of a problem.
15:11:25 er: It's doesn't count as "ok" when they charge $30 for the same game with some low-effort particle effects added.
15:12:49 er: If you can't get people to join I might just uninstall SC and join myself.
15:13:11 NJW: nah, don't do it for my sake
15:13:41 er: Would just take the time to shuffle the files around
15:13:56 NJW: though if you do want to play vanilla, remember you can just copy the Dark SOuls Prepare To Die Edition folder, and use the copy as a SC backup.
15:14:22 er: And the time to play the early parts over, but that's the fun bit. :3
15:15:13 er: Already have the vanilla folder saved, but didn't put it in the steam folder
15:15:41 er: I was dumb, it is easier to rename things than move them
15:21:14 er: Right hand: eagle shield + dagger. Left hand: rapier + sorcery
15:22:07 er: Which probably doesn't fit but
15:22:15 NJW: Well, I'm off for a walk. Say high to
Dev for me if he comes back on.
15:24:09 er: Though that setup is str + dex + end + int, which may be a bit thinly spread for low levels.
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19:46:46 ER: okay, so in my in-perpetual-progress original RPG setting, dolphins now have six legs, a pair of mantis shrimp claws, and pedipalps.
19:48:03 ER: And when they need to fight on land they use suits with compound eyes and strengthened mechanical legs.
19:48:21 ER: ...Provided they're not bringing anything even heavier, that is.
19:48:45 ER: design goal: make dolphins as terrifying as they are in real life.
21:38:03 Devastator: Didn't Awful Hospital already do that?
22:23:24 Devastator: Forums are back up.
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23:52:06 Elasticly_Rigid: (Hey it's back)
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23:58:29 Devastator: ..yeah, forums are back.
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