ERLOG 2018-09-05

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00:18:07 MidJag has joined #einsteinianroulette
00:19:46 MidJag: lo
00:19:56 syv: Oh, you!
00:20:43 MidJag: It's me!
00:20:55 syv: Dev, it is he!
00:21:13 MidJag: Was I expected?
00:21:35 syv: Not at all! Nor vaugely, slightly, or in my wildest imaginings!
00:21:54 MidJag: I see
00:23:01 Devastator: heya MJ.
00:23:12 Devastator: Glad to see your net is holding up again.
00:23:17 Devastator: expecting bounce city again?
00:24:13 MidJag: Nah, should be around.
00:24:25 MidJag: Well somewhat comatose since I got stuff to do, but around.
00:24:43 Devastator: that is the nature of stuff being done.
00:25:11 MidJag: indeed.
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00:55:53 ER is now known as er
00:56:02 er: Hey mj
00:56:20 er: Lowercase nick to signify phone
00:57:51 er: After like 20 minutes of no activity syv quits a few seconds before I join :p
00:59:49 Devastator: heh.
00:59:56 Devastator: Probably just dropped for a bit.
00:59:59 Devastator: was talking about Metal Slug.
01:00:41 MidJag: elllo er
01:08:22 er: Hi
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01:13:06 MidJag: ello again
01:13:22 syv: o/
01:18:50 MidJag: GTG, might be back later tonight
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01:21:07 syv: Welp, that was engaging,
01:22:22 Devastator: Yes.
01:24:56 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyanhlbENrw
01:25:06 Devastator: The TAS with quite possibly the largest amount of bot-based manipulation.
01:26:23 Devastator: Also possibly the most annoying music.
01:28:16 Devastator: minimizing the amount of time the selection box spends moving between characters is immensely time-consuming.
01:32:37 Devastator: I think it may also have a higher casulty rate among the friendlies than the enemies. A higher percentage of them die.
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01:34:06 syv: But they still win in the end?
01:36:05 Devastator: Yeah.
01:36:21 Devastator: I think there's something like 12 recruits with 4 survivors.
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01:37:19 Devastator: That little turn box isn't programmed to go around enemies in the shortest distance like that.
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01:43:58 syv: bleeehhhh
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01:52:26 ER: :3
01:54:37 syv: 3:
01:54:46 syv: ...That doesn't look like a frown.
01:54:50 syv: ):
01:55:30 ER: :[
01:57:57 syv: -n-
01:58:20 syv: :C
01:59:39 ER: :D
02:01:25 syv: -][-
02:01:41 syv: :-][-:
02:03:39 ER: -][-
02:12:31 syv: o][o
02:12:49 ER: \][/
02:12:52 syv: -][- o][o -][- o][o -][-
02:13:11 syv: \]T[/
02:13:23 ER: \][/ hey that looks like the solare except it's micolash
02:13:47 ER: no one can stop us now! \][/
02:14:42 syv: syv: /][\
02:14:48 Devastator: hmm
02:14:54 syv: mmh?
02:15:22 Devastator: I don't really get the appeal of Solaire. If it wasn't him, it'd be someone else.
02:15:23 ER: ?hmm
02:15:47 ER: He's a strong idiot, just like patches says
02:15:53 ER: everyone loves a strong idiot
02:16:19 syv: Solaire is a notable character who is consistently friendly and helpful in a world full of enemies, who you meet early and accompanies you across the whole game, and who has a crisis of faith and is saveable if you're a selfless person.
02:16:51 ER: I kinda like that patches says that, because solaire being strong and being an idiot are both a gameplay result of him being your main summon NPC.
02:17:04 syv: He's notable for being a consistent friendly companion, and his immense popularity is mostly just because the game is immensely popualr.
02:17:05 ER: he needs to be strong because NPCs are dumb. :P
02:17:48 ER: He doesn't break the mold of most npcs having creepy laughs though
02:17:57 syv: Are there any Souls NPCs you DO get the appeal of, Dev?
02:18:09 Devastator: Hmm? Nah, not really.
02:18:55 ER: are there any npcs you get the appeal of?
02:19:09 syv: Selan?
02:19:14 syv: Dekar?
02:19:22 syv: Arty?
02:19:31 Devastator: Yes.
02:19:53 Devastator: Also, Shining Force features the least effective prison cell in any RPG.
02:20:01 syv: Dev: Doesn't like any characters that weren't his favorites from when he was a small child.
02:20:04 Devastator: Starts at 10:50 in that video.
02:20:37 Devastator: It's a tough choice, actually, trying to think of the one I like the most.
02:21:06 syv: Give us the top three then.
02:21:44 ER: I don't really get why people like alyx in half life 2, actually.
02:23:32 Devastator: The surviving villain from Breath of Fire 4.
02:23:48 Devastator: Kefka from FF6.
02:23:51 syv: Pretty girl who is attracted to the man behind your camera.
02:24:30 syv: What do you think of PS:T Dak'kon, or Trias?
02:24:39 Devastator: PS:T is it's own category.
02:24:43 ER: Right, which doesn't appeal at all because freeman is a non-character
02:24:53 Devastator: Plus Dak'kon is playable.
02:26:29 syv: No, no, ER, when she flutters her eyelashes at him or whatever, the dude playing likes to pretend she's fluttering her eyelashes at *him*.
02:26:31 ER: alyx might annoy me a little extra though because I've played half life lots of times and the cutscenes are largely uninteresting and NOT SKIPPABLE
02:26:52 ER: the dude playing is a shit roleplayer
02:27:24 syv: ...Yeah, come to think of it, it's a little odd for you to dislike her. I recall her shooting and hitting a bunch of things, and you generally like when pretty girls hit and/or shoot things.
02:27:27 Devastator: 39th Slayer.
02:27:50 syv: ...Really now? The Slayer?
02:27:52 syv: Bah.
02:27:56 ER: because they're not really curscenes, they're parts where you're locked in a room with nothing to do until the generic characters finish emoting in your general direction.
02:28:43 syv is mildly nonplussed that ER is judgemental of this but actually *liked* waifu bartending
02:29:10 ER: that stuff I can read at my own pace. and it's actually interesting.
02:29:42 ER: HL2 is... generic dystopia without the interesting parts of that?
02:29:50 syv: It's still a bunch of generic characters emoting in your general direction.
02:30:12 ER: My favorite bits of those games are the bits where you're fucking ALONE and crawling through an abandoned place.
02:30:25 syv: With no interaction except clicking on sone buttons that you have to click on.
02:31:19 Devastator: There should be a better choice than Kefka.
02:31:20 ER: the player character has a personality too
02:31:40 Devastator: The slayer is more due to the time effect. You spend a lot of time with him.
02:32:56 Devastator: probably thirty or forty hours.
02:33:28 syv: I hate the time effect and feel that any character who relies on that is a bad, bad character.
02:33:44 syv: If you can't make you story good in 100k words, your story is bad.
02:34:33 Devastator: Heh.
02:34:39 Devastator: There's probably some better ones that'll come to me.
02:34:52 Devastator: Besides, you've never played JtRH. ;-p
02:35:37 syv: I'll choose a compact 40k word novella over a 500k word saga any day. I don't need to waste my time going over every event in some Mary Sue's life just to like a character.
02:35:42 syv: JtRH?
02:35:54 Devastator: Journey to Rooted Hold, the game with the slayer in it.
02:35:59 syv: If it's the puzzle floor game with the tar, I've read a plot synopsis.
02:36:15 Devastator: I'm sure.
02:36:21 ER: would you like PM3 more if it started from episode 4? :P
02:36:37 Devastator: The goat from Terranigma.
02:36:48 Devastator: There we go, that's a good one.
02:38:22 Devastator: Terranigma's tough to pick one from. It's more of an ensemble piece.
02:38:31 syv: Maybe, but I'm unsure. The terrible suffering the characters was made all the sweeter by my hatred of them.
02:39:15 syv: *Especially* Mommy.
02:39:19 syv smiles
02:39:29 syv: Yeah, E03 needs to be included.
02:39:30 ER: I liked them all :3
02:39:40 Devastator: You liked bunnycat, admit it.
02:39:44 Devastator: and Homura.
02:40:52 syv: Bunnycat didn't suffer.
02:41:08 Devastator: Yeah, the goat from Terranigma, Yuna from Breath of Fire IV, and 39th slayer.
02:42:13 syv: Did you really, ER? Did you honestly enjoy the overly cutie-sweet schoolgirl lesbiab shenanigans of the first three episodes? Because if so, there's a whoooole genre of anime full of that stuff.
02:51:42 ER: Honestly, I can barely remember what actually happened that early in. But I liked all the characters later on!
02:51:45 syv: ...
02:52:05 syv: Did you send that a half instant before I sent my ellipsis?
02:52:37 ER: yellow's reaction to finding out that they're all doomed to turn into horrible monsters was to immediately shoot red to death, which is pretty metal honestly.
02:53:04 syv: While whinging with remarkable distortion.
02:53:09 syv: But yes, that was nice.
02:53:43 Devastator: 10 kills, 1025 damage.
02:53:50 Devastator: 159 taken.
02:54:47 syv: If Ghost Recon Phantoms gets revived, I'm going to spam you with accounts of how many people I snipe.
02:55:39 Devastator: Go for it.
03:00:24 Devastator: gobliny enough choices for you, ER?
03:00:35 ER: gob
03:00:55 ER: I dunno who those bastard are, so whatever
03:01:10 Devastator: Yay.
03:01:54 Devastator: Yuna's basically a fleshhorror mage who wants to make gods.
03:02:07 Devastator: Gets off scot-free.. twice over.
03:02:30 ER: I like fleshhorror
03:02:33 ER: :3
03:02:54 ER: oh yeah I should draw the rest of death plane
03:03:28 Devastator: Devs ran out of time when making the game, so he got to survive. Also, it started with a manga, and the game finished before the manga. The manga writer decided to take the game's ending in his case to be canon.
03:03:45 Devastator: Yuna's not the fleshhorror, he makes other people into involuntary fleshhorrors.
03:04:51 Devastator: He's one of the many, many BoF races, dude with dog ears or something.
03:28:54 Devastator: Hmm.
03:29:03 Devastator: It is unusual that the enemy side gets the pegasi in Shining Force.
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04:02:23 midnightjaguar: I’m a man of my word. I am indeed back.
04:02:33 ER: nito
04:02:34 Devastator: back to where, though?
04:03:20 midnightjaguar: The familiar dwellings of this IRC chat?
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04:15:18 Devastator: Casulties up to 6/8, or 75%.
04:15:25 midnightjaguar_: For what?
04:18:31 Devastator: The shining force 1 TAS.
04:18:41 midnightjaguar_: Ah
04:18:46 Devastator: I made the statement that friendly casulties might be higher than enemy ones.
04:18:53 midnightjaguar_: Although I don’t think I know what Shininforce is
04:18:56 Devastator: I haven't been keeping diligent track of the enemy, but it's probably a bit over half.
04:19:01 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyanhlbENrw
04:19:46 Devastator: It's not that watchable, but I do recommend checking out the worst jail in RPG history starting at about 10:40 or so.
04:21:06 midnightjaguar_: Alright
04:21:56 Devastator: It's the one bit in this game where the TASer isn't making things go faster than usual.
04:27:46 Devastator: two forced recruits bring it back to 6 dead of 10.
04:34:00 Devastator: 8 of 11 now. Picked up a samurai and killed off two more.
04:35:25 midnightjaguar_: Neat
04:36:23 Devastator: Yeah. Not sure why he picked up the samurai.
04:38:37 midnightjaguar_: He wanted to have the /honor/ of the blade.
04:38:49 Devastator: No, he needs the samurai on the last two levels as a second attacker.
04:38:58 Devastator: well, 3rd to last and second to last.
04:41:11 midnightjaguar_: I see
04:43:04 Devastator: 3rd to last is a route battle where all enemies have to die.
04:45:17 Devastator: 4th to last, sorry.
04:45:49 midnightjaguar_: Ah
04:50:12 Devastator: He also one-shots Darksol on the second-to-last battle.
04:52:15 Devastator: two attackers are also necessary on the final battle as the dark dragon parts have too much health to be one-shot.
04:53:08 Devastator: Heh, but he does get the special animation for the main character landing the final blow.
04:54:53 midnightjaguar_: Nice
04:56:37 Devastator: ahh, the ending scene, featuring six people who were not quite required characters and thus weren't recruited, two dead people, and the never-seen leader.
04:57:02 Devastator: 8/11 casulties, so a higher rate than the enemy.
04:58:56 Devastator: I do like how the guy managed to bring the time down to 1 hour, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds.
05:00:02 midnightjaguar_: Heh
05:01:17 Devastator: DarkKobold, the TASer, was extremely proud of that, and considered it his greatest accomplishment in TASing.
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05:04:42 ER: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=171890.0 ahh, I do like this quite a lot. You should read it :v
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05:05:30 Devastator: ooh.
05:06:24 midnightjaguar_: Oh?
05:06:43 ER: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=171890.0
05:07:20 ER: I just... like my own writing here, so I want to share it and make you enjoy it too >.>
05:07:29 Devastator: Yeah, it's pretty good.
05:09:27 Devastator: (That's goblin-speak for 'Awesome, keep it up, ER.')
05:10:36 midnightjaguar_: That’s really cool dude
05:10:50 ER: https://youtu.be/MF1_MrEMpew
05:13:52 midnightjaguar_: Dev is Ocelot. Confirmed
05:14:19 midnightjaguar_: He’s like a double quintuple agent
05:15:02 Devastator: I don't particularly like revolvers..
05:15:27 ER: *twirl*
05:15:37 Devastator: hawt reloading action.
05:16:16 ER: long silver bullet into a well-greased chamber etc
05:19:32 midnightjaguar_: Alright. I should probably head to bed. Night
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05:24:35 Devastator: a lightly-greased chamber would be a better sign of maintenance.
05:49:07 Devastator: http://loweringthebar.net/2007/08/man-may-lose-ca.html
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19:02:12 ER: poke prod
19:10:14 Devastator: poke?
19:10:22 ER: hi
20:40:34 Devastator: oh, liquid posted.
20:40:48 Devastator: looks like Driderverse is going to be a no-mundane zone.
20:40:50 Devastator: Sigh.
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23:27:20 Devastator: So who is that dude in Kill Six Billion Demons?
23:27:56 ER: nobody important~
23:28:16 Devastator: Could you tell me, please? I have no idea.
23:30:11 ER: that's Zaid, Alison's "boyfriend"
23:30:54 Devastator: Oh, that dude.
23:31:07 Devastator: I thought it might be, but I can't recall him ever getting any screentime yet.
23:32:13 Devastator: So he's Zed?
23:37:37 Devastator: Good to see him.
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