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01:19:01 syv:
Devastator! I saw you discussing what mount to get for Saeko, in the logs. You mentioned a griffin, and I realized exactly what you need to make!
01:19:36 syv: It is the perfect mount for Saeko in every way.
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02:33:05 MidJag: I mostly just eat things, not big on the makeing.
02:33:16 MidJag: Unless you count fly food I suppose.
02:33:31 MidJag: I make a lot of that, but dont eat it. :P
02:33:56 ER: technically none of us make food, that's all down to plants and maybe a few kinds of machine
02:34:11 ER: we just manipulate the food that's already there
02:35:19 MidJag: you doing anything for the fourth?
02:36:15 ER: Going to have a picknic with rather extended family
02:36:29 ER: this is what we do every fourth
02:36:58 ER: I'm not really that patriotic, but that's just when we all meet up
02:37:58 MidJag: Neat, I would do something like that typically, but I'm too far away from family right now for that. So mostly I'm just going to sleep and watch fireworks.
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03:13:57 MidJag: or bouncing I should say
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03:22:44 syv:
ER, what's our plan in Chalice?
03:22:56 syv:
MJ, you get RwR working yet?
03:23:04 syv: I am going to nag you endlessly until you do.
03:23:57 MidJag: Nope. I haven't even looked at it yet, been busy. I've got nothing to do tomorrow, so I'll probably set it up then.
03:24:28 syv: I think we only have two options, arguably three if you wanna try swimming. Cross the teeth, or go home.
03:24:53 syv: Crossing the teeth seems like the best idea, it's not dangerous with our gear.
03:25:17 syv:
MJ, when you fail to get it working tomorrow I'm going to tell you I called it, then continue to nag you/
03:25:44 MidJag: You'd be a horrible horse.
03:26:14 syv: Neigh, I'd be an awesome horse.
03:40:15 MidJag: Slightlly different from my standard but not by much
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03:47:09 syv: That guy intrinsically misunderstands the purpose of bullets. They're high velocity gifts, you don't ask for gifts back!
03:51:22 syv: Second video's singer has some fab hair, though his voice sounds like it's actively attempting suicide.
03:52:40 MidJag: It's actually really hard to do a death growl without utterlly shredding your vocal chords apperentlly.
03:55:14 MidJag: I have no idea how the voice actor for metalacalypse could even talk.
03:56:04 syv: It's also really hard to chew your fingers off.
03:56:36 syv: The solution is drugs, I imagine.
04:01:23 MidJag: I'll do it in about an hour.
04:01:54 Devastator: No, I'm not making your avatar.
04:03:34 Devastator: well, yeah, it's your avatar.
04:04:04 ER: magical girl: "I wish that unicornpegasuskittens existed"
04:04:20 MidJag: Ridden by whoever the fuck is riding it
04:05:47 MidJag: Who is riding the unicornpegasuskitten
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04:09:14 syv:
ER, run a fame involving a UPK.
04:11:18 syv: It's no fun if *I* make a game about it!
04:11:42 ER:
dev make a game about crows
04:11:53 Devastator: I made one about cormorants.
04:26:17 MidJag: Hmm, MP 'nam edition would actually give me an excuse to use some of those water beasts I made
04:28:19 MidJag: Maybe you'll finally get to fight that whale beast. :P
04:28:50 ER: with that much beastflesh, I could make a true wall!
04:32:39 MidJag: I could sorta see that going the way of the daemon mech. :P
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05:00:09 MidJag: Happy hour late fourth everybody.
05:02:44 syv: May the fourth be with you, and all that.
05:03:01 syv: Pity it's so wet out, can't really go shooting. :(
05:04:37 ER: you live in a pretty wet place
05:05:05 MidJag: Swamps are pretty damp[citation neeeded].
05:09:05 ER: I like. have been feeling like writing things in my txt for Refine, but I haven't been doing that.
05:09:10 syv: I live in a high spot, so when it's drier out I can walk the length of the... range, I guess, without getting wet or anything, but right now I'd have to trudge through a lot of mud to get to the targets.
05:09:26 MidJag: It's been bizzarlly rainny latetlly. Like I've been walking through a downpour to get home everyother day.
05:09:35 syv: Don't stress over it. Write random ideas in a new text file if that's easier.
05:10:00 MidJag: Do what I do. Get deleious and scribblle it all down in one go. (don't do what I do)
05:10:42 ER: I mean that's close to what I do too
05:10:43 syv: Actually I'd recommend that one too, it's easiest to write a ton of stuff out when exhausted. Quality is much less important than quantity when struggling to write.
05:12:09 ER: hmm. actually what I can write right now wouldn't be much quantity, because it'd need to be mechanics. I kinda want to draw up a world map for this, and by my estimation that would come before describing things...
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05:14:11 ER: *drunk scribbles in paint.net I guess*
05:14:40 MidJag: Well not scribbles, but eh.
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05:17:56 Devastator:
PW really did a lot of work on the map for Cabal.
05:18:47 ER: he also paid for his program, and screw that~
05:21:30 syv: It's not immoral if you wouldn't pay anyway!
05:21:58 syv: Do whatcha want 'cause a pirate is free~!
05:22:11 Devastator: The line from pirates who do nothing.
05:22:53 syv: Ahhh. No, that's not the reference here.
05:24:34 Devastator: That reminds me of the barbarian assistance chits.
05:24:47 Devastator: "You're swallowed whole by the great wyrm"
05:24:56 Devastator: "I use my help chit to escape the inside of the dragon."
05:25:37 Devastator: "Another barbarian shows up inside the belly, and moves forward to hold its mouth open. You then climb your way back through the throat, stabbing as you go."
05:25:58 syv: It's not megadeth,
MJ! Alestorm was the one to cover that song!
05:26:11 syv: It's like you people don't even know memes.
05:28:33 MidJag: I'm still confused how this relates to megadeath since as far as I can tell the song I linked is megadeath and not a cover, though Alestorm is pretty grat.
05:29:56 syv: ...I didn't realize that you were just randomly linking metal, thought you were confused and were referring to the meme song.
05:30:07 ER: scribbling: maybe successful?
05:30:56 MidJag: But neither of the songs have the same name, and the meme song is alestorms you are a pirate.
05:32:39 ER: ah, finally clicked on
syv meme link
05:34:01 syv: The Alestorm song is a cover of that song, which is from a kid's show. I linked that vid instead because I find it hilarious, considering the source, and don't particularly feel the song is very good in either incarnation.
05:34:39 MidJag: Never mind, I find it hilarious and lets move on.
05:35:27 ER: is it believeable to have a map covering all the world as you know it with just one river source? I guess so, if it's apocaliptic?
05:36:22 Devastator: the river source is a portal to the elemental plane of water. Normal water only has a limited lifetime on this planet.
05:36:25 syv: If you don't know much of the world, sure.
05:40:36 Devastator: That sounds like the starting point for one of my games where the world is fucked and it's up to you to unfuck it.
05:41:00 ER: what kind of baby fucked world is unfuckable
05:41:24 Devastator: one with powerful characters.
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05:43:49 syv: Chaaracters shouldn't be powerful enough to unfuck things, they should just be powerful enough to *think* they can unfuck things, only to be brutally and violently proven wrong.
05:44:23 Devastator: I was more thinking of there being some serious problems that aren't solveable in some obvious way, but there are still solutions.
05:44:37 Devastator: The birds, for instance, would have had to excavate buried locations.
05:46:02 MidJag: No, the world should be fucked and people should just shrug and get on with it. :P
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05:47:45 ER: I guess it might be theoretically possible to unfuck Refine's world by restoring the ways in which it used to be fucked... hmm.
05:49:12 ER: gain control over the force that sticks people's souls in little gems, then just do the bunnycat's thing
05:49:50 Devastator: Is this where I'm supposed to say 'fuck bunnycat', and then get yelled at for furry?
05:49:54 ER: though humans would still retain their ability to see magic which might, uh, complicate such a scheme
05:53:20 MidJag: Alright, I'm off to bed. Night!
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05:54:04 MidJag: One thing actually.
Dev, do canadians actually call ciggarettes, darts?
05:57:48 Devastator: I've never heard that phrasing.
05:57:55 Devastator: Canada is a big country, though.
05:59:58 MidJag: Makes sense. Must be more of an eastern thing.
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06:01:47 ER: kay, I might pass this map to you to stare confusedly at soon
06:28:14 ER: most things can't live there, and because witches can kinda just ignore metabolisim, they can wander around anywhere
06:29:14 ER: so, kinda like the dunes but with more cover, dark places, and maybe tech
06:30:00 ER: Because the magical girls murdered all the bunnycats and committed suicide!
06:30:38 ER: And then the sun itself kinda lost hope because there's no more life energy
06:31:22 ER: seperately, human civilization collapsed because of that, and also rampant witches and no wishes to fix anything
06:32:37 ER: The humans who survived developed a weak connection to magic, so they can see the witches and ran away
06:34:10 syv: Okay, so magic life entropy rather than science entropy.
06:34:21 ER: another effect of that increased dependance on magic, and borne from humanity's collective desperation, a force is going around and turning random children into "magical girls"
06:34:48 ER: sans a choice in the matter, or a wish
06:36:46 syv: Are there magical boys, or are all men just mundane civvies?
06:37:27 ER: Which is probably a good excuse to call them "hunters" rather than magical girls <_<
06:37:52 syv: I support that name change 200%
06:38:12 ER: (naturally the magical effects remain FABULOUS even for boys)
06:38:44 syv: ...They aren't all traps, are they?
06:39:26 ER: literally everyone in my game world are transsexual NOW THERE
06:40:13 syv: How does that work? The girls look butch and the guys look feminine?
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06:40:36 parisbre56: just joining to say I'd play that
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06:41:18 syv: I'd play if I can play a dude who doesn't look like a lady.
06:41:25 ER: but yes, there are magical boys. Magic is just fabulous
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06:41:53 |: That's not what I wanted, Darkmyst!
06:42:53 ER: You can look however you damn well want so long as it's plausable for a kid of like 13-16 of either sex in the post-apocalipse
06:44:19 syv: Say it's Semblance enabled or something.
06:44:49 ER: I mean if you're sticking magic in there you could be a griffon or something
06:45:48 syv: Could I be a tiny psychic spellcasting jumping spider?
06:46:01 ER: I still don't know what powers I should have. Other than, like, copying PS's list wholesale >_>
06:48:28 ER: surprisingly few questions about that map itself?
06:49:16 ER: I do quite like the idea of the valley of the coven though :P
06:53:21 syv: Talk about it if you've got something to say.
06:54:36 ER: something something congregating together to plot revenge on the world
06:55:14 ER: something something lifesteal making hollowed servents
06:55:35 ER: something somethings awesome madmax cars
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06:56:36 parisbre56: ideas about the map:
06:56:50 parisbre56: underwater mermaid magical girls?
06:57:34 ER: why do you want to go underwater that's hard look it's a map boundry
06:58:11 ER: I actually thought there should be an old crypt beneath cliffside
06:58:11 parisbre56: because someone will want to go there. or some monster will want to come from there and terrorize/enslave the world
06:58:47 ER: frikkin deep sea king coming along and casually wrecking everyone
06:59:20 ER: now, this world is pretty dead, so wildlife might be a bit rare
06:59:49 ER: but you'll run into some pretty crazy things near oasies
06:59:57 parisbre56: OP oppressive government agency style enclave that is isolated from the rest of the world?
07:00:17 parisbre56: underground cannibals?
07:01:10 parisbre56: well, obviously , unless they come up to take meat
07:01:24 ER: The thing that's close to an enclave is that shrine
07:02:11 ER: but that's more a set of powerful, spiritual, and hostile children in a temple full of bones :V
07:02:25 parisbre56: crashed alien spaceship, from the bunnycats. mgs killed them but didn't deactivate the security system. now it's running armok
07:03:31 ER: Oh yes, I forgot sorcerers for a moment, but those would probably be a bit more hidden
07:04:22 parisbre56: farm of enslaved humans/magical girls
07:04:50 parisbre56: they have the mgs running in hamster wheels, because it's actually more efficient
07:05:45 ER: just running in a wheel won't actually help the lack of life energy, otherwise waterwheels would be enough and we could ignore magical girls
07:06:05 parisbre56: rumored island Paradise where everything is fine, talked about in pubs, scammers sell maps to it
07:06:34 ER: Basically, the sun has stopped providing something that it used to, and everything is dying that can't get an alternative source.
07:07:24 parisbre56: pyramid builders, led by some historian who has gone crazy and believes he is Ra
07:07:35 parisbre56: or maybe just some idiot who knows nothing about Egypt
07:07:42 parisbre56: but can convince people
07:11:00 ER: all the people crazy enough to try building megaprojects when growing crops requires the aid of emotionally and magically unstable teenager hunters dies out a few hundred years ago.
07:11:01 parisbre56: people who try to capture monsters and train them. almost always fail hilariously and endanger everyone
07:11:16 parisbre56: or worse, people who actually fall in love with monsters
07:11:48 ER: see the main problem with most of these is "they would die".
07:12:27 parisbre56: well, it's hard to make a game when everyone has to be reasonable and logical
07:12:33 ER: This world is reaching the point where the *pragmatic* people are heading towards unavoidable death
07:12:34 parisbre56: (or at least I find it hard)
07:13:36 ER: now, it doesn't have to be reasonable or logical, but it DOES have to be something that'll actually keep you alive.
07:13:50 parisbre56: oh, what if people are desperate enough to eat beasts, but the blood of beasts carries something that makes them crazy?
07:14:08 parisbre56: perhaps craziness related to whatever beast infected them?
07:14:36 parisbre56: basically werewolf, now that I think about it
07:14:43 ER: what I've seen has indicated the beasts aren't made of meat
07:14:48 parisbre56: only you get it by eating the werewolf
07:15:25 ER: so while there's something pleasingly bloodbornian to that
07:16:59 ER: hmm, file the beast-flesh crazed mobs for the bb-inspired game that's not a setting where the sun's lost hope and the earth is dying
07:18:58 parisbre56: hmm... what about people who adapt to the loss of the thing from the sun. can such thing be a thing?
07:19:36 ER: it's life, and you can't live without life
07:20:50 ER: to survive without the sun, you need to source life, on some level, from emotion. Witches can survive indefinately on sheer self-hatred.
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18:34:00 Devastator: How much money do you have in Cabal, anyway?
18:37:04 Radio_Controlled: Well, more than you probably.
18:37:16 Radio_Controlled: Though less then right after cave adventure.
18:37:22 Radio_Controlled: Went on a bit of a shopping spree.
18:38:03 Devastator: Just a sec, I need to deduct 6 gold for my employees.
18:38:31 Devastator: that's before putting up any bounty money.
18:39:29 Radio_Controlled: Pan and me together have about 730 gold or so.
18:39:35 Devastator: Yeah, a little money.
18:39:48 Radio_Controlled: Pocket change really.
18:40:00 Devastator: Hey, I have to earn that five pieces at a time for healing people.
18:40:49 Radio_Controlled: You don't have to.
18:41:31 Devastator: ..Yeah, I kinda do. Travelling is expensive.
18:41:41 Devastator: and that bird is likely to increase my expenses.
18:42:07 Radio_Controlled: You don't have to earn it five pieces at a time for healing people.
18:42:37 Devastator: Unless I rob people, that's what I've got to do.
18:43:01 Radio_Controlled: You got plenty of options.
18:43:07 Radio_Controlled: Some of which I outlined before.
18:44:12 Devastator: dungeon-delving? That's an option. Not likely to do that while I've got people to heal, though, and this is a new town, so I should have some to do first.
18:44:29 Devastator: Fishing is kinda risky business, even today.
18:44:45 Devastator: What I'd like is enough money to start a pickling business here.
18:46:29 Devastator: Then I could probably draw a regular return when I come back through.
18:46:29 Radio_Controlled: Heal rich people.
18:46:34 Radio_Controlled: They have deeper pockets.
18:46:51 Devastator: Sure. They also get injured less.
18:47:03 Devastator: Last one paid in words, which was good.
18:51:03 Devastator: Money's only good when you have something you want to do with it.
18:51:30 Devastator: If I decide to start a pickling business or something, then maybe I'll see if I can get enough cash together for it or something.
18:51:47 Radio_Controlled: if you don't then you can pay someone to want something for you.
18:52:50 Radio_Controlled: "Money's only good when you have something you want to do with it." "if you don't then you can pay someone to want something for you."
18:53:09 Devastator: I still don't really parse the second one.
18:53:50 Radio_Controlled: If you don't have something you want to do with the money, then you can pay someone to want something to do with the money for you.
18:54:25 Radio_Controlled: "I will pay you 5 gold to wish you had 30 gold to buy a donkey and name her Yvonne."
18:54:40 Devastator: That sounds stupid.
18:55:05 Radio_Controlled: Took you long enough to figure it out.
18:55:17 Radio_Controlled: What did you want, real advice?
18:55:29 Devastator: I give it sometimes.
18:56:05 Radio_Controlled: Never when I'm around then. :p
18:56:09 Radio_Controlled: (shots fired)
18:56:50 Devastator: but yeah, that should mean more time.
18:57:08 Devastator: "You actually believe the moon exists?"
18:57:12 Devastator: Still love that line.
18:57:32 Radio_Controlled: It's clearly a mirage.
18:58:18 Devastator: starting a business will take even more time, if you need it.
18:58:50 Radio_Controlled: Don't do things for my sake, just play as you normally would.
18:59:16 Devastator: nah, the idea came to me just yesterday.
18:59:18 Radio_Controlled: If we can arrange it, great, if not, too bad but not disastrous.
18:59:38 Radio_Controlled: (though I imagine you'll be able to use the funds)
19:00:18 Devastator: Well, that bird will take feeding, and a steady income would help with that.
19:00:28 Devastator: Plus a business like that will help improve the world.
19:00:55 Radio_Controlled: Not to mention the startup costs.
19:00:59 Radio_Controlled: In mana and such.
19:01:52 Radio_Controlled: Speaking of business, depending on how many turns each match of Pan takes I might start looking into that diamond mine.
19:02:07 Devastator: The business shouldn't take much mana to start up.
19:02:15 Devastator: The bird will, but healing people seems to net a profit.
19:02:19 Devastator: Plus there's the rave idea.
19:02:23 Radio_Controlled: I was referring to the bird, yeah.
19:02:44 Radio_Controlled: Given how large you wanted it to become.
19:03:30 Devastator:
PW said something like 8-10 d4 grow spells, which isn't that much.
19:03:36 Devastator: assuming he remembers.
19:03:38 Devastator: so who knows, really.
19:05:18 Devastator: He did say that it would start working less, but that was different than what he told me originally.
19:05:21 Devastator: depends on the day.
19:06:27 Radio_Controlled: And the position of the stars.
19:08:58 Devastator: Only if you believe the moon exists.
19:10:03 Devastator: I'll probably cast one grow spell to kick it off and to see how the creature responds to it.
19:10:17 Devastator: then do the rest when I've got enough supplies to do everything I'd like.
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19:19:27 Devastator: I'll probably cast one grow spell to kick it off and to see how the creature responds to it.
19:19:29 Devastator: then do the rest when I've got enough supplies to do everything I'd like.
19:19:47 Devastator: Shoring up bad stats is also on the menu, which will probably be the hardest part.
19:21:04 Devastator: Critfails could suck there.
19:21:15 Radio_Controlled: They usually do.
19:21:47 Devastator: so probably three or so risky rolls, and then just d4s from there on.
19:22:46 Devastator: and they're probably just d6 rolls, increasing physical stats below d6 to d6, and then one d6 grow.
19:25:03 Devastator: 2d8s, 2d6es and 2d4s on a familiar.
19:25:22 Devastator: so take a d4 for str and end, up those, and they'll increase further as it grows.
19:25:37 Devastator: or take a d8 in one of those to end up with an impossible die instead of a d10 or something.
19:29:07 Radio_Controlled: Yeah, two d4 and a d6 for physical stats, those are easier to buff.
19:29:33 Radio_Controlled: Maybe familiars can get a +1 as well from mana?
19:29:46 Devastator:
PW evaded that question.
19:29:57 Devastator: I think it might be the 10 mana AND a successful cast to do that.
19:30:03 Devastator: but I'd totally do that if I had the budget.
19:30:14 Devastator: Same with equipment. I'd love to have my armour with a built in +1 on it.
19:30:55 Devastator: That said, I have character stats I'd do first.
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19:38:18 Devastator: Although it might get broken.
19:43:05 Radio_Controlled: I could see it for a familiar, being a magical creature, but I don't think it'd be a good idea for equipment.
19:43:51 Devastator: I'm already wearing magic gear.
19:43:59 Devastator: It's something I'd have to test. Plus I could sell it.
19:44:26 Devastator: either the enchantment or the results. I'm sure someone would pay extra for gear that has lower stat requirements than it provides in protection.
19:44:48 Radio_Controlled: Eg d8 armor for d6 end.
19:45:02 Devastator: I'm wearing a suit of d6 armor with d4 requirements.
19:46:43 Radio_Controlled: Yeah, convenient.
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20:13:31 Radio_Controlled: Bouncy today,
Elasticly_Rigid?
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20:15:44 Devastator: Yes, he has a high coefficient today.
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20:26:48 er: Keeping this in my pocket results in massive bouncing
20:27:08 er: Because phones were a mistake
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20:29:20 Devastator: so
ER has an android.
20:31:06 Radio_Controlled: So
ER is an android.
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21:57:00 Radio_Controlled: Well, see you guys later.
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23:10:48 Devastator: I really am curious if we could pride a ghost.
23:11:18 Devastator: Also seems less likely for people to go all burn the witch on us, as necromancy is okay.
23:14:43 Devastator: so a ghost might just be spell-enslaved not enslaved enslaved.
23:14:49 Devastator: Plus the dead tend to not have civil rights.
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