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04:30:38 ER: how are we on this fine day
04:31:28 syv: ...Sorry, finding it hard to be wordy.
04:31:39 syv gazes sadly at the computer in front of him
04:31:43 Devastator: A little sad
NJW didn't manage to finish the update before heading off. I do hope he's having fun.
04:32:02 syv: Nah, just been annoyed at my apparent inability to update.
04:32:04 ER: just barf words all over your txt till something neat comes out
04:32:55 syv: worf thing yodel carry mark try find food read whip map trip condor better tingle whap timber cry fool kindly tread necessary
04:33:20 syv: ...How long does this take before the neat thing?
04:33:21 ER: last five words there sound good, expland
04:34:04 Devastator: That actually worked.
04:34:50 ER: random thoughts and impaired judgement, that's where neat things come from
04:35:54 syv: The only thing that I can think of for that is Mr. T sneaking ip on and then attacking a sad terrorist.
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04:41:16 Devastator: Running with Rifles?
04:41:55 MidJag_: Uhhh. Maybe? Lemme see if I can get it set up on this comp.
04:42:33 syv: Why the heck do you accept that when he asks when you've refused every time *I've* asked?!
04:42:51 Devastator: I meant I was going to stream it,
MJ..
04:43:06 MidJag_: I'm not busy right now. I just got back from a wedding and have nothing to do.
04:48:52 MidJag_: What's your twitch name again?
04:50:02 Devastator: I'm having a bit of difficulty with resolution changing, so it might be a few minutes.
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04:54:04 MidJag_: Hmm. It's saying your ofline. It's kofiman19 right?
04:54:50 ER: go there, wait for him to go live
04:55:12 Devastator: Stream's up, it'll be a moment.
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04:57:53 MidJag_: That sounds like a very you thing to play.
04:58:53 MidJag_: I was just joking about the lone person versus everyone else idea.
04:59:09 syv: Also I *told* you to use the dock!
04:59:43 syv: You can see behind you and past buildings, no FoV limitation
05:00:17 syv: It's not visible on the map, it's on the very southeast tip of the island.
05:00:36 syv: It's small, but far enough out and with cover so that you don't get shot.)
05:01:15 syv: Are you using a cracked version?
05:02:05 syv: Ah. That's it, I haven't played a version of MvW without the dock there.
05:02:43 syv: My version also has three difficulty levels for MvW: Casual; Hard; Hardcore. If you only have one difficulty level it's Hard.
05:04:27 syv: The only difference between hard and hardcore in my version is that hardcore has FoV limitations. You can't see enemies or items that aren't within line of sight of your char.
05:05:19 ER: that sounds awesome actually :P
05:05:27 MidJag_: So your playing sa rouge liek?
05:05:35 syv: It's really fun with a teammate.
05:06:05 syv: I find it too painful alone, to be fair, but I expected
Dev to select the most punishing option.
05:06:49 MidJag_: Hmm, I'll see if I can get it downloaded tommorow.
05:07:40 syv: Ehhh. I suppose you're right, a lot of the difficulty is reduced with an ally (though I think they increase the enemy count too), but it's really really fun to coordinate.
05:08:17 syv: The base game also has the flaw of it being easier to die, and then get annoyingly separated.
05:09:31 syv:
MidJag, do you care to pkay the expansion version, set in the Pacific theater of WWII? I figured you'd be interested in that.
05:09:47 MidJag_: Yeah, that sounds awesome actually
05:10:44 syv: Oooh, they also changed that left tower to a minigun with massive range in the official version.
05:11:02 syv: Then
Dev would need to find a newer version.
05:11:29 syv: Oh. They removed the tower, then. Made it *easier*. Bah.
05:12:17 syv: Ohhh, there's that appropriately smug
Dev tone.
05:14:09 syv: They're catnip *unless* they're on your side and you placed it, in which case they'll charge forward and die repeatedly instead. >.<
05:14:27 syv: I modded this gamemode earlier today, made the grunts have the miniboss weapon list.
05:15:27 syv: Actually, it really doesn't. At least the bolt actions. They fire too slow, it's a serious risk.
05:15:51 syv: The SVD of course is OP as hell, but the bolt actions are balanced with the M60 at least.
05:19:11 syv:
ER, have you looked at any of
Dev's stream?
05:19:44 MidJag_: Rambo, the man who can't die from anything but ten bullets.
05:19:45 syv: This would be an awesome game to play four-man.
05:20:35 syv: Only rockets, knives, and 60% of the time revolvers do more than 10% damage.
05:21:04 syv: Yeah, campaign. Probably with big handicaps for the enemy so that there's still some challenge.
05:21:35 syv: Yeah, shotguns can wreck you... except they're rare and utterly incompetent.
05:21:47 syv: "
Piecewise"? He's not here?
05:22:13 syv: "Sorry, sorry sorry Sieve." -.-
05:22:43 MidJag_: see? It's the only sensical pronunciation
05:22:49 syv: *Sigh*v. Rhymes with jive.
05:22:49 syv: But no, I know of no secret areas in MvW at all.
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05:23:52 ER: I'm not paying attention to y'all or your stream, I was eating ice cream and watching someone else's stream :V
05:23:55 syv: I don't care about English's rules, English ignores them half the time anyway. "
sy" is "sigh".
05:26:02 syv: You only have to blow up rare crates.
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05:27:44 syv: You normally reach enough XP for M202s midway through this level, anyway.
05:27:55 syv: M202s are better than javelins.
05:29:58 MidJag_: bah, just do it like John wick.
05:31:41 syv: About halfway up the east side of the city.
05:31:41 syv: I usually shoot it from the fort.
05:32:00 syv: It's the best gun you can get in this mode!
05:32:12 syv: It's a high accuracy and damage semiauto.
05:32:37 MidJag_: Your Rambo, you can't semiauto things
05:34:37 syv: Yeah, he used a 1911 in Rambo.
05:34:49 syv: My ver lets you buy a Desert Eagle in the Armory.
05:36:08 ER: deagle best gun, deagle worst gun
05:36:08 syv: It's the highest damage AR.
05:36:34 syv: Still poor compared to SRs, but it helps at long range, and in efficiency, which are where ARs suffer.
05:37:26 MidJag_: Alright, I should probably go to bed.
05:37:52 MidJag_: actaully one quesiton
dev.
05:38:22 MidJag_: Actually never mind I'll ask later
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05:38:47 syv: I modded them to be usable, they aren't that broken. Better than ARs, but not moreso than the M60.
05:39:28 syv: They gain in information and long-range use, but lose out on dealing with hordes, which are what always kill me. M60 does pretty well with hordes.
05:39:52 Devastator: You can deal with hordes if you start the fight in the right area. Bang, bang, bang, bang.
05:41:06 syv: *Can*, but in those situations you could do about as well with any gun. The sight range helps a lot, but doesn't really work to prevent wanderers investigating the gunfight, and forces a very slow playstyle if you want to make the most of it, since you have to stop and stand still go use it.
05:41:32 Devastator: same with the M60, though.
05:42:07 syv: The M60 doesn't have extra sight range, and deals with groups far better.
05:42:25 Devastator: I meant having to lie down.
05:42:29 syv: You're more likely to get into a bad situation, but you're also more likely to get out of one as well.
05:43:09 syv: No? You only have to lay down at long range, when there's no cover. It's very effective when *walking*, at CQB ranges.
05:43:37 Devastator: You can shoot a M60 when walking?
05:43:55 syv: Also I meant you have to stop and stand still to get the extra sight range from an SR. They only let you zoom when motionless, otherwise they have the same view range.
05:44:21 Devastator: Maybe. It's the walking MG?
05:44:26 Devastator: I remember there being one.
05:45:06 syv: There's a rare Stoner LMG which has better stats, in the base game. The M60 is only in MvW, in the armory. It uses the same animations but has less accuracy and fire rate.
05:45:56 Devastator: Maybe I didn't play that faction, then.
05:47:41 syv: None of the faction LMGs can fire without cover/prone. Originally, Devs planned to make the Russian LMG have crouch firing as a faction trait, but decided against for some reason. Prolly because it's OP.
05:48:09 Devastator: oh, it's in the armory in Man vs World?
05:48:12 Devastator: I'll have to remember that.
05:48:28 Devastator: I thought that was just an ordinary M24.
05:50:19 Devastator: In case you can't tell, I don't know guns.
05:51:16 ER: real world guns are complicated and I don't know them, which is one of many reasons I never want to GM a game set on earth :V
05:52:14 Devastator: I don't know if I'd like the M60. I don't like inaccurate guns.
05:53:46 syv: Fair 'nuff. It can be annoying if the enemies are being too cautious, you can easily waste fifty rounds shooting a man-range guy crouched next to a corner.
05:54:11 Devastator: I should try it though.
05:54:24 syv: Look for a G36, it's the best acc AR.
05:54:49 Devastator: Yeah, I usually use those, if available.
05:55:06 Devastator: The AKs I just find annoying.
05:56:47 syv: They have 10% more chance to kill on hit, but slightly less range, 7% less firerate, and 17% more recoil.
05:57:08 syv: The worst AR, to balance the faction having the best SR and LMG.
05:57:26 Devastator: I'm assuming the 10% is more like 50 to 60%, and not like 50 to 55%?
05:57:54 syv: No, it's exactly 50 to 55%.
06:00:51 syv: The Barrett has 3.01 lethality for some reason. So it always oneshots anyone in normal armor, and 1% of the time does an extra point of damage which won't matter...
06:03:06 Devastator: Actually, I don't think I've ever seen a barrett.
06:04:10 syv: They're half as common as VSSs.
06:04:29 Devastator: I think I've only seen a VSS three or four times, though.
06:04:54 Devastator: I think my campaign was with green, so that's possible.
06:04:59 syv: Nope. All rares are faction independent.
06:05:29 Devastator: well, yeah, that's what I'd call the other mode.
06:06:18 syv: It's the right name, I'm just commenting on it being singular. I've played a lot of campaigns, with all factions, since I've had the game for three years and it's one of the only shooty games which works on my small laptop.
06:06:47 Devastator: Nah, I played one, I'm happy, seen enough of that gamestyle.
06:08:44 syv: It does get old quick without other people/
06:55:08 syv: You love everything, and therefore your love is worthless.
07:16:49 Aigreish: i am everything and nothing
07:16:59 Aigreish: my love is as vast as the infinite void
07:26:01 syv: It does not love--any gift you receive is simply a misapplied wound.
07:26:12 ER: only if you don't wear Artorias's ring
07:28:50 syv: That just gives you immunity to the damage, it still doesn't love you.
07:33:44 ER: meaningless statistics that might make some people irrationally arachnophobic, very nice.
07:34:17 Devastator: so how many years for humans to eat all the spiders on earth?
07:34:30 syv: 75% chance there's a spider sharing the room with you. Honestly, that's lower than I'd expect.
07:36:04 syv: By the numbers given in that article, just over 27 days, assuming we only replaced meat and fish with spiders.
07:36:19 syv: And assuming they don't breed, I guess.
07:37:36 Devastator: What would be out of place in a witch's labrynth?
07:38:35 ER: A commune of happy humans living off of the witah-generated biosphere?
07:41:38 Devastator: Yeah, that would do it.
07:43:38 ER: I'm not sure if I can think of much else that wouldn't fit, and that's bascially exactly what I'd put in there in my own magical girl game...
07:44:49 ER: Probably not actully living inside the pocket dimension itself, but close enough.
07:51:48 syv: I'm trying to calculate how long it would take humanity to eat all spiders, if we ate exclusively spiders, but relevant nutritional information is hard to find.
07:52:26 syv: I think we'd all just die before finishing. Spiders don't seem to be very healthy food.
07:53:22 Devastator: Nah, humans could live a month or so on an unbalanced diet. We'd be able to eat all the spidews.
07:57:35 syv: Do you think we'd be able to handle the venom? I know venom's not nearly as bad when swallowed vs injected, but we're eating a lot of spiders. Some of which are very venomous.
07:57:38 Devastator: we'd die after that from excessive insect quantities.
07:57:47 Devastator: Yeah, probably. Most venoms are just proteins.
07:59:03 ER: people with open mouth sores would probably die.
07:59:14 ER: People already malnourished too
07:59:29 syv: Assuming my assumptions are correct (they probably aren't), you could fit eight thousand average jumping spiders (Phiddipus Audax, specifically) in the average human stomach.
07:59:49 Devastator: 8000 spiders in a pile is enough, really.
08:06:40 syv: I think you could fit more than two million of the smallest variety of spider (Samoan Moss Spiders) in a human stomach.
08:07:10 syv: "I am technically capable of eating two million spiders at once."
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