00:00:07 Devastator: (one man, one really big sword.)
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00:03:36 Devastator: In game he can never actually put it down, and has to use the sword to interact with anything.
00:04:22 Devastator: Oh, also, Pyro, you might want to join Coven with
syv and myself. Witches in contemporary London, lots of chaotic stuff.
00:04:33 Devastator: Should be starting up again soonish.
00:10:45 ER: Also yeah, the first thing that I thought about dig's OP was that that handling is overkill for my tiny moth and likely to seriously injure her, but I later realized that it would be HIGHLY foolish handling if the PC happened to be Honored Dead. :P
00:12:55 syv: What does "handling" mean? And PC?
00:13:29 Devastator: handling the bore, maybe?
00:13:35 ER: handling means the particular method with which you handle a thing or person. PC means player character.
00:14:48 syv: So... what in the Dig OP is handling your moth, then?
00:15:23 ER: I'm merely pointing out that our mystrious captors are likely to crush my fragile exoskull, and are likely to get disembowled by an Honored Dead character.
00:17:10 ER: That is, the intro text makes sense if the player character is a human, but less so for me because hitting me is entirely unnessesary because I'm tiny, and less so for you because you're INCREDABLY DANGEROUS at close range, so they'd probably want at least a solid cage. :P
00:18:26 syv: HD aren't really all that dangerous in close range, it's more that they're really hard to kill in open combat. Tie their wrists, they're... still pretty much done.
00:19:27 ER: One might have 17 Str, but I guess.
00:20:50 Devastator: Yeah, but that's OPs for you, one size fits all.
00:21:24 syv: And all stats are basically within human power, since your moth still has a fair chance of succeeding on any strength roll.
00:21:51 ER: Dunno, *I* would be deathly afraid of a giant psycho-paladin zombie, but I am but a tiny moth.
00:21:54 ER: I suppose not wanting to poke the big guy is kinda our whole deal. <.<`
00:22:01 syv: 25% rather than strongman deathless' 80%, but still in the same realm.
00:22:47 Devastator: There any potentially evil robot builds there?
00:23:35 ER: I'd assume there's some difference in what we can attempt with that Str stat, and what sort of things would end up being a bonus or negative modifier. At least because of body size differences.
00:24:05 ER: Could probably manage being a fully mechanical Abomination.
00:24:31 Devastator: base human, prob then.
00:25:04 syv: Oh. Yeah, any abom could be mechanical.
00:25:19 syv: Just, only one player has already made a mechanical abom.
00:25:26 ER: Imbuing a body with some random mind from the spheres seems like the sort of thing a diver would do.
00:26:45 Devastator: (After Barghtor wakes up)
00:26:50 Devastator: "Where the hell did I get THAT mind?"
00:26:56 ER: She is still... mostly fleshy, I'd say.
00:26:56 ER: More like accedental anachronistic cyberpunk lizard.
00:28:29 Devastator: I meant mind, because clearly that's the thing that's more wrong with the psychotic robot.
00:29:15 ER: before the mind got there he wasn't thinking
00:29:41 ER: before the mind got there, he WAS thinking, but he was in a different place, and not a robot.
00:29:44 Devastator: I meant it from the diver's point of view.
00:29:49 Devastator: who put the mind in the robot body.
00:30:49 ER: I wouldn't be suprised to find a mind that thinks like Bender in most of these spheres.
00:31:30 Devastator: I think Bender wouldn't be as fun to play, as I'd expect him to be mostly cowardly.
00:35:19 Devastator: Whereas someone shooting at Bargthor would be met with 'Sweet, someone not running away.'
00:35:41 PyroDesu:
Devastator, I can't help but wonder... "You can also turn any cleaning implement over a metre in size into a flying vehicle."
00:35:55 PyroDesu: Do Bosun's Chairs count as cleaning implements?
00:35:55 Devastator: I think someone did a roomba.
00:36:27 ER: I made a fucking awesome flying roomba, then zombies ate me.
00:37:05 Devastator: Although I thought a Bosun's Chair was just a chair that could be raised up to the level of a ship, incase a sufficiently terrible landlubber needed to board.
00:37:05 Devastator: That? Quite probably.
00:38:41 PyroDesu: So this *is* open for players, yes?
00:39:44 syv: That doesn't look like a cleaning implement? It's something to sit in while you clean with other tools. Though I suppose you could just glue a giant brush to it and be done with it.
00:40:12 syv: ...Wait,
Dev.
Dev! That tank you were going to enchant? Strap some sponges to it aso you can make it fly!
00:40:23 PyroDesu: It is an implement used for the job of cleaning.
00:40:28 Devastator: I wanted to make parts of it staff-like for defensive enchantments.
00:41:07 Devastator: I wonder if you could do a car by brooming up an oil filter, though.
00:41:26 Devastator: I also wanted to magic up the smoke generators.
00:41:32 Devastator: so probably not treating it as all one thing.
00:42:14 Devastator: It should be, anyway. NJW2000 isn't updating at the moment, but he's pretty good at asking questions, so feel free to shoot off a PM.
00:43:16 Devastator: Hmm, found a picture with one that also has cleaning fluids hanging to it. Yeah, that's a cleaning implement.
00:43:31 Devastator: Personally, I was thinking of a Zamboni for 'odd cleaning implement'.
00:44:05 Devastator: Could probably do a riding lawnmower, and almost certainly, a street sweeper as well.
00:44:47 PyroDesu: Would a tank equipped with mine-clearing equipment count as a cleaning implement...
00:44:50 Devastator: I think the chair would be better, actually. Smaller, so it's easier to move around on the ground, and you have a full field of fire.
00:45:04 PyroDesu: I mean, it's technically cleaning.
00:45:41 PyroDesu: ... I could probably argue a lot of things count as cleaning equipment.
00:47:19 Devastator: it would also be best if you can ride it, too.
00:47:23 syv: "This vat of acid is a great glass cleaner."
00:48:01 Devastator: Gotta remember stuff like that for combat purposes.
00:49:19 Devastator: of course, if you empty the tank it would no longer fly.
00:50:38 syv: Eh, one clot to make a vat of acid fly wherever you happen to want to drop it.
00:51:03 syv: Maybe you could even convince
NJW to let you make the acid itself all fly as a blob without containment if you shove enough clots in.
00:51:14 Devastator: I think you need to ride it to direct it.
00:51:24 Devastator: unless you go up to a level 4 broom.
00:51:51 Devastator: at that point you may as well just take a sample and make a wand based on it.
00:54:22 syv: Get some way to make yourself immune to acid. "Ride" by floating in it.
00:54:29 syv: Now you're a flying blob of acid.
00:54:43 syv: It's a defense, attack, and transport, all in one!
00:54:46 Devastator: Yeah, that could work.
00:55:08 Devastator: of course, acid is consumed when it does its work.
00:55:35 PyroDesu: That's why you want a weak acid.
00:55:50 PyroDesu: Weak in the chemical sense, not the "OH GOD MY BONES" sense.
00:56:08 PyroDesu: Hydrofluoric acid, for example.
00:56:36 Devastator: Eh, that doesn't do enough damage.
00:56:47 Devastator: It'll kill people, sure, but it won't get through most walls.
00:56:52 Devastator: Breaking bad has lied to you.
00:57:12 syv: You have a lot of mass, and it flies under its own powers.
00:57:30 syv: Just because it can't melt through walls doesn't mean it necessarily can't break through them.
00:58:08 PyroDesu: Hm... actually, thinking about it... I seem to recall hearing about chlorine trifluoride being used as a cleaning agent...
00:58:13 syv: I wonder if you could prevent your blob from splashing with max broom level...
00:58:41 Devastator: ..I don't think anyone would call CTF a cleaning agent.
00:58:52 PyroDesu: Semiconductor industry, I think.
00:59:24 PyroDesu: Ah: "In the semiconductor industry, chlorine trifluoride is used to clean chemical vapour deposition chambers."
01:00:10 PyroDesu: And you know... it could be argued that something like a Cobalt-60 source used in radiosterilization is a cleaning agent...
01:00:30 Devastator: That seems more reasonable.
01:00:50 Devastator: ahh, so they use it to clean the deposition chamber, and not the products. That makes more sense.
01:01:00 PyroDesu: ... You know that cobalt-60 is insanely radioactive,
Dev?
01:01:14 Devastator: It still makes more sense.
01:02:30 Devastator: You could call a bomb disposal robot a cleaning device.
01:02:50 Devastator: I'm sure at some point
NJW will say no, but he's been suprisingly willing to let things pass.
01:05:59 syv: I'm off. I'll prolly be back in three or so hours.
01:06:11 syv: Nice hearing from you, Pyro.
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02:01:53 Devastator: so any other ideas for Coven, Pyro?
02:02:29 Devastator: So you can totally fly around on a C-60 source, just don't disassemble it.
02:02:41 PyroDesu: What, other than using blobs of insanely dangerous chemicals or radioactive sources as transportation?
02:03:31 Devastator: There's also the one in 1982 in Taiwan. ;-p
02:05:05 Devastator: Besides, we've had a worse incident than any of those caused by the players recently.
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02:07:22 PyroDesu: CHLORINE TRIFLUORIDE BLOBS AS WITCH BROOMS!
02:07:37 Piecewise: I WILL TURN THIS GAME AROUND
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02:08:32 PyroDesu: I quote from Discord: "Also,
PW would have horrid flashbacks if he saw what was going on in the IRC."
02:09:10 PyroDesu: Oh, his reaction when I introduced the stuff.
02:09:14 Devastator: I don't think he knows how the most recent mission ended in that, does he?
02:09:22 PyroDesu: That grenade never even got used.
02:09:23 Devastator: (I remember that bit well.)
02:09:35 Devastator: Don't worry, I'm sure he would have forgotten about the 10% failure chance.
02:09:56 Devastator: I think that may be the only thing someone actually made in the entire game. That wasn't automade perfectly for people.
02:10:24 PyroDesu: Oh no. Several people made things for themselves. Mostly just duct-taping things together though.
02:10:58 PyroDesu: Putting generators on laser rifles, my frankencivvie rifle (also never used)...
02:12:41 Devastator: Most of which didn't matter because the free stuff was always better.. ;-p
02:12:48 PyroDesu: It wasn't common, and not generally used with tinker creation.
02:13:12 PyroDesu: Oh, the generators on laser rifles was nice enough (until completely superseded).
02:14:10 Devastator: I was also thinking that nobody ran out of ammo with one either.
02:16:03 Devastator: I have a link for you.
03:13:25 Devastator: you seen that one before, Pyro?
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03:46:06 Devastator: Catch that chicken vid,
PyroDesu?
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03:51:34 Devastator: Hey
syv, should Pyro watch "Follow the Chicken?"
03:52:24 syv: Maybe even if not, I've been called humorless, and I enjoyed it.
03:53:02 PyroDesu: Link it again, since Pan got me up to copy/paste secrets to him?
03:53:23 Devastator: I'm sure Pan will enjoy it too.
03:56:10 PyroDesu: One minute is and WTF
03:57:57 syv: Maybe moles follow the chicken.
03:58:11 Devastator: It's proper frontier gibberish.
04:07:34 ER: I'm the fucking greatest magebreaker to have ever lived.
04:07:34 PyroDesu: Secrets have been revealed. Pan seems... underwhelmed (I did warn him a lot of it was RP stuff).
04:09:11 syv: What are the secrets, anyway?
04:11:41 syv: No really, what are they? I'm curious. I like fluff and this fluff sounds interesting.
04:16:23 PyroDesu: Ask
PW if you're curious enough, but I dunno if he'll tell you when you're not a mole.
04:16:59 PyroDesu: Gotta be a swole mole to get Secrets™.
04:21:02 PyroDesu: Or at least have
PW trust you enough.
04:23:35 syv: I wonder if my years of tinker and munchkinnery have gained me lots of trust. We'll see, I guess.
04:43:51 Devastator: more like anti-trust.
05:05:08 ER: I'm let the tension build for a bit more~
05:05:27 syv: There is no tension, I have way more power than any of those demons.
05:05:41 syv: I could blow raspberries at them and still win if I felt like it.
05:06:31 ER: I'll update it when I feel like it, similarly to how I update the other game
05:14:44 syv: At least do the rolls,
ER? Don't write anything, just tell memwhat the dierolls are.
05:15:36 ER: But that's the boring part D:
05:17:23 syv: The boring part is the part that takes ten seconds?
05:17:36 syv: And you can't bother to do the interesting part?
05:17:44 syv: Just roll the stupid dice.
05:19:00 ER: The hard part is figuring out what the fuck happens, dice are needed for that, and I need to do it before I can tell you what the dice say. The fun part is describing whatever happens.
05:20:40 syv: Well then just roll ten times and save the list in a txt file, then refer to it when making the turn.
05:21:36 ER: Rolling dice is the easiest thing in the world. Deciding if I need a roll or not is hard.
05:22:27 ER: ...And if I have a list of rolls in a doc somewhere that I can see, that obviously biases by decision making. It's only fair if I decide to roll, and then roll.
05:23:38 ER: If you want some fucking dice, here, have fun: [2] [4] [3] [1] [2] [4] [6] [5] [1] [4] [5] [2]
05:25:51 syv: Well then, I could roll ten dice for you, then PM them to you, each hidden inside a spoiler. That way I know how the rolls will go, but not how they'll be used, while you'll not know what the rolls are before using them.
05:27:51 ER: you'd just use that stratigically anyways
05:29:08 syv: Oh? Do you really think that I can predict the exact order you'll use rolls so well that I could tamper with the rolls to benefit myself?
05:29:23 syv: If I slipped in an 18 it'd have an equal chance of being used by me or the demons.
05:52:58 Devastator: So Pyro, any witch ideas?
05:56:59 PyroDesu: Well, looks like there's a waitlist, for one.
05:57:08 ER: waitlist's never been able to get in my way when I die, so I'm pretty sure it's not real. :p
05:57:23 Devastator: There isn't actually a waitlist.
05:57:27 syv: Yeah, it's just a join and play game.
05:57:46 syv: Plenty of people have hopped in and just started going, waitlist's a relic of another time.
05:59:24 PyroDesu: Runic Sight + Banal Combat, plus Aim and Practicality?
05:59:42 PyroDesu: Guns that shoot bullets that have runic spells carved into the lead.
06:00:19 syv: Runic is very powerful, but very unreliable. You get no guarantee that your runes will have any effect on bullets, they tend to be weird.
06:00:52 Devastator: It's also random what you get from runic.
06:00:56 Devastator: You may not get good runes.
06:01:15 ER: You can usually go looking though, especially if you have a +3
06:01:34 PyroDesu: Honestly, I'd really have to read more past the OP to get a good feel for it.
06:01:42 Devastator: I'm wondering how much until I can get one for 'beauty.' Be useful if I ever get around to implementing the child soldiers.
06:01:58 Devastator: another no-cost payment method.
06:03:01 Devastator: (It's a pretty weird game.)
06:04:59 syv: My character shoots things. Sometimes he stabs things. He wants more guns.
06:05:11 syv: For me, it is a simple and straightforward game.
06:05:42 PyroDesu: Anyways, I'm off. Again.
09:26:56 ER: I was going to do something. Then I did something else.
09:27:51 syv: I know that feeling, it's the status quo for me.
09:29:47 Devastator wonders if I have ever left..
09:49:22 ER: you daring me makes me not wanna
09:50:10 ER: that and the title being all japanese and not something I've heard of, so there's no clues as to what it's actually like :V
09:50:39 syv: Bah. I watched most of it and I hate things more than you typically.
09:52:41 syv: I swear I haven't hated it.
09:53:02 syv: At worst it's made me roll my eyes. And just kinda stare dumbly at the screen.
09:53:58 Devastator: It's just girls with rifles.
09:54:03 Devastator: It's hitting all of
syv's desire points.
09:54:16 syv: They don't bleed in this one. :(
10:11:49 ER: what percentage and absolute number of named characters are fanservice?
11:06:49 syv: Highly depends upon setting and genre.
11:07:27 syv: Kids' novels? Somewhere lower than 10%. Pornography? Somewhere above 90%.
11:07:34 ER: this specific anime, please
11:07:53 syv: At least in terms of tits and such.
11:09:16 syv: I don't know the genre, but I'd bet that some of them are being fanservicey in tropey ways. Character traits and such made just to appeal to a target audience. It's very moe. Also, gun porn, but not enough. :\
11:11:32 syv: Honestly I don't expect you to watch it for any more than a minute. The opening is like three minutes of the protag prancing about oohing and ahhing at her new school. I was promised guns, and was instead stunned by how long they could spend on "Girl is amazed at fancy architecture"
11:12:42 syv: I read it was targeted at males, and expected tits. No tits. Which isn't bad, it's just... like, aside from the fact there's guns, I don't understand how any aspect of that was targeted at males.
11:13:58 ER: oh look, you got a failure-with conseqences for attempting to toss a vase.
11:16:16 syv: Nah you said this was boring so it is.
11:16:44 Devastator: stop having fun guy.
11:17:01 Devastator: First he wants you to watch it, and then he wants you to not watch it.
11:17:47 syv: No, no, he's updating Injury. Which he refused to do earlier, because it wasn't fun.
11:18:54 syv: I write 4k words about his magical girl getting violently murdered, he write me a couple paragraphs about a Dark Souls expy wrecking demons.
11:21:10 Devastator: Good work ratio there.
11:21:36 Devastator: Before Birdgame I ran a forum game through PM.
11:21:41 Devastator: I had Toaster test out the d12 system.
11:21:48 Devastator: and the RTSTW table.
11:23:01 Devastator: He had some kind of sonic zombie apocalypse thing going on.
11:23:08 syv: The Red TearStone Tounge Wrap?
11:25:07 ER: roll to save the bloody world
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18:20:41 PyroDesu: Everyone so *skittish*.
18:20:55 PyroDesu: It's not like we just got bombs strapped to our heads... wait.
18:21:21 PyroDesu: Um... not like those bombs are detonated by talking, right?
18:21:35 PyroDesu: Yeah, that's more reassuring.
18:27:00 ER: I'd quite like to go hide now thanks
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20:32:41 Radio_Controlled: Hello you megafauna with a taste for blood.
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21:42:53 parisbre56: hey
syv, you saw
Piecewise's response? from what he explained on discord he doesn't want to start giving people special treatment, since that might lead to more people requesting that kind of stuff. I think it's reasonable.
21:43:52 Radio_Controlled: You'll just have to roll and see how much moolah you end up with, then use that.
21:46:12 syv: Hrm. Pity, I hoped Honored Dead would be able to actually wear the stuff they're said to wear. -.-
21:46:41 parisbre56: Also, in my opinion, your character might be jumping to conclusions a bit with who is guilty. I mean, honored dead have a deep sense of guilt and you're surrounded by unknown people. For all you know, maybe all those people are criminals and this is their punishment and chance to atone.
21:47:09 Radio_Controlled: Then those are some hard nosed beat cops though.
21:47:27 syv: Sure, there's arguable ambiguity, but that won't last very long if my char talks to anyone.
21:47:53 ER: "For all you know, these people might be guilty!" is not a selfless, heroic point of view.
21:47:53 parisbre56: Which is probably why those people are going to skeddadle real fast
21:48:13 syv: Even if he did assume everyone on the bore is a master lier and they're all guilty, it's a pretty cruel thing to strap bombs to people.
21:48:28 syv: That's inhumane and cruel, even for evil people.
21:49:08 syv: Plus, there's no explanation or defense. No "Hey, I know you're an honorable guy, here's why you should help us."
21:49:19 parisbre56: just trying to think of other ways to look at the situation, I guess
21:49:22 syv: Just "Shut up and do this or we kill you. No questions."
21:49:55 parisbre56: Well, I guess you can go with
Piecewise's greater good excuse then
21:50:09 syv: I can totally run with this, I'd find it fun to play a traitor who's trying to undermine things without being caught... but then, that's usually unfun for other players.
21:50:15 parisbre56: going along for now would be better for the chances of survival of the Innocents
21:50:44 parisbre56: because if they fail they all die
21:50:58 parisbre56: so you need to help them retrieve the item
21:51:13 Radio_Controlled: Yeah, you could try to undermine our captors, but it'd have to be in a way that doesn't jeopardize the poor totally innocent (tm) fellow inmates.
21:51:17 parisbre56: and find a way to keep them from giving it to the bad guys
21:51:46 parisbre56: without that resulting in the death of the innocent
21:52:29 syv: Still, I really hate this.
21:52:32 Radio_Controlled: Or at least make it look like an accident so you can file it away mentally under "totes not my fault".
21:53:03 syv: "You're a paladin. You do honorable stuff and are absolutely selfless. If you don't work with these evil guys right now we'll murder twenty innocents."
21:54:09 parisbre56: well, what would a comic book hero do?
21:54:38 syv: Comic books are shit,
Paris.
21:54:42 parisbre56: true, wrong choice of example
21:54:59 parisbre56: what would John wick do?
21:55:17 syv: John Wick is a comic book in movie form.
21:55:20 Radio_Controlled: What would Jesus do?
21:55:49 syv: JW would get caught in four submissions in a row and just have the captor let go because the protag can't have his shoulder shattered.
21:56:14 syv: Jesus would roll over and let people go about their shit, because his whole schtick is peaceful dissent.
21:56:39 parisbre56: unless they're bankers
21:56:59 Radio_Controlled: Then he wrecks their shit, slightly.
21:57:06 syv: I don't think flipping a table would be very helpful in the current situation.
21:57:21 Radio_Controlled: I think he'd talk them into giving up and becoming apostles actually.
21:57:43 Radio_Controlled: Maybe try that, go the diplomancer route.
21:57:49 ER: Honored Dead are basically the Leper from Darkest Dungeon, use him as your role model. :P
21:57:54 parisbre56: or maybe use his plot armor to magic the bombs Away
21:58:08 syv: Considering just saying "Fuck it" and playing the damn lizard. That one has a personality that wouldn't conflict with the mission, and is minmaxed enough that I can actually try to screw with things.
21:58:27 parisbre56: do whatever you'd enjoy most
21:58:29 syv: And then I don't have to argue with Piece about armor that doesn't actually help with anything.
21:59:39 Radio_Controlled: I think you'll only really have this issue for the first mission, after that it's more freeform.
21:59:44 ER:
PW was originally going to give you the armor and a 4 pierce 4 cut sword, but people complained. :P
21:59:53 parisbre56: and if you're afraid of getting courted, just say you were courting another lizards and really hitting it off before you were abducted, so now you're hoping you can go back to her
22:00:10 Radio_Controlled: So could consider playing something else for a moment and then jumping in with HU. Hell, might not even get to go on the expedition itself with all these people.
22:00:53 parisbre56: so you're already "taken"
22:01:28 syv: (
ER)
PW was originally going to give you the armor and a 4 pierce 4 cut sword, but people complained. :P
22:02:13 syv: Do I have to join the Discord to debate this?
22:02:35 ER: first one because PW is PW, second one because people noticed
PW being
PW and he overcorrected.
22:03:00 ER: Eh, oz is on the discord right now.
22:03:19 syv: It's Discord, everyone is essentially on at all times anyway.
22:04:09 syv: Fuck it, it'd be cathartic to argue with him anyway. I'm in a bad enough mood.
22:05:02 ER:
PW isn't even active at the moment, btw
22:05:38 Radio_Controlled: Did you try rolling for you money yet? With a little luck you could afford a nice armor.
22:06:33 Radio_Controlled: Erm, please don't come into the discord to fill it with endless screaming and drown out the rest of the conversation, please?
22:06:52 syv: Like you have any real conversation.
22:06:57 Radio_Controlled: What do you mean by '100%'?
22:07:12 Radio_Controlled: Still better than you and Oz having at it, yeah.
22:08:45 Radio_Controlled: Though Oz and rand seem to have succeeded already at filling it up with crap so yay. :/
22:10:19 syv: I muted it already anyway, I just want to yell at
Piecewise.
22:10:33 syv: But he isn't responding, as
ER said.
22:11:05 ER: He's playing Nioh, because discord lets you see that for some reason.
22:11:29 Radio_Controlled: Soldier’s Chestplate is fairly decent armor.
22:11:31 parisbre56: I think people getting mad at
syv for asking a question was a bit too much. it's not like he demanded anything
22:11:34 Radio_Controlled: Hello Apemantus.
22:11:49 Devastator: Why is everyone getting mad at
syv for asking if he can get armour?
22:11:58 parisbre56: but that doesn't mean you should go and yell at people
22:12:10 parisbre56: that will most likely make things worse
22:13:17 Devastator: Sometimes you should yell at people.
22:13:18 Radio_Controlled: I understand
pw doesn't want to start giving people special privileges or special starts (as minor as the requested change might or might not be). I also understand
syv though that the lore of HU seems not to mesh well with the way new characters start.
22:13:39 PyroDesu: I wouldn't say we got mad, and certainly weren't yelling. Also, what Radio said ^.
22:13:56 Radio_Controlled: Especially given the circumstances with the bomb collar.
22:14:02 Devastator: I'll yell at them for you.
22:14:11 Radio_Controlled: On discord, you?
22:14:20 Radio_Controlled: Pigs are flying?
22:14:49 Devastator: Oh, it's on discord.
22:14:54 Devastator: Where they can talk to nobody.
22:14:57 syv: I can totally agree with not getting free stuff or special stuff. I'm annoyed with it not even being noticed until I had to point it out, and then the decision being made apparently on the input of other people without the actual arguments--which are stupid--ever being posted somewhere I could see.
22:15:10 Devastator: I meant on the thread.
22:15:34 syv: I like to actually be part of the discussion, but I apparently have to use Discord for that. Which I dislike. I can deal with it, I guess, but it's still aggravating.
22:17:24 Radio_Controlled: To be fair, discord is, like, the thing these days.
22:17:36 Radio_Controlled: This is a legacy IRC, hardly even supported.
22:18:00 Radio_Controlled: If not for you and
dev, I think this place would've been dead already in fact.
22:18:29 Devastator: I just wish Discord wasn't so terrible.
22:19:31 syv: At least I *did* figure out how to fix the spying and enormous font, which are the two most egregious problems.
22:20:02 syv: It's still full of chatter from all games, porn spam, and can't really be turned off or sorted through in any easy way.
22:20:03 Devastator: not anomynous, permanent machine-only logging, lots of space wasting, heavy overhead..
22:20:22 Devastator: Plus it has tabs arranged vertically down the side, clearly a mobile only design.
22:20:38 syv: No, that's just modern design aesthetic.
22:20:51 syv: Mobile designs tend to have swipes without all tabs being shown.
22:20:51 Devastator: That's the same thing as mobile-only,
syv.
22:21:32 Devastator: It's also slow as fuck, if I want to read the last 400 messages since the last time I came on, I have to spend three minutes scrolling. Continual scrolling is shit, no matter how you slice it.
22:21:57 Devastator: Oh, your client can only display 40 messages at a time? That's just shit.
22:22:27 Devastator: This is set to 500, for the record.
22:22:33 syv: Searching is awkward, it searches the entire history of the whole channel, even if it's been going for years. Then has scroll issues, and if you want to see context ypu leave the search window, and when you return the scroll is reset.
22:22:57 Devastator: Searching is also slow, because, as I said previously, it's all server-side.
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22:23:03 Radio_Controlled: I personally find discord to be vastly easier to use than IRC.
22:23:11 syv: It also has an odd bug where sometimes large segments will just be cloned repeatedly.
22:23:13 Radio_Controlled: Speaking of vastly easy, heeeey
Midjag!
22:23:24 syv:
syv is angry about Dig and is whining about Discord with
Dev.
22:23:25 Devastator: Eh, I have a client, it does the job. Discord keeps yelling at me to install it's client.
22:23:47 Devastator: and bugging me about recent updates.
22:23:56 Devastator: I don't CARE about updates, I just want something that works.
22:24:05 Radio_Controlled: Like with all computer programs or internet pages, I never let it yell me things.
22:24:49 ER: speaking of bugging for updates...
22:25:30 syv: Radio, easier? What is easier? It's easier to set up, and join, and logging is vastly simpler. It also has a better desktop browser app, which makes it simpler to join for someone who wants to invest minimum effort--which is totally fine. But it's not easier to use in conversation and such.
22:26:13 syv: It's about the same for conversing, with difference largely down to taste, and even most of that's mitigated by desktop's minimal style or whatever.
22:27:08 Devastator: It's the new thing, it was pushed heavily, and there were enough people not on IRC to create a market.
22:27:17 Radio_Controlled: I can find information or specific parts of a convo much easier than on IRC, and it logs without me having to set things up for it (which admittedly might also be a disadvantage).
22:27:22 syv: 's popular, and why so many people use it. But it has significant downsides for me. I'm annoyed that Discord is a downgrade for me which I'm essentially forced to use by peer use.
22:27:37 Devastator: can you just use ctrl-f?
22:27:55 Devastator: Right, you use Mibbet.
22:28:01 Devastator: Get a client, install it, log in once.
22:28:04 Devastator: It'll be much better.
22:28:12 Devastator: You'll see why I like it.
22:28:15 Radio_Controlled: No because I use mibbit cause I can't be arsed to start up mIRC.
22:28:37 parisbre56: I will try to post an action in Dig and then sleep. bye everyone.
22:28:43 Radio_Controlled: I used at least 2 IRC clients and tried them for a while, still not as easy to use as discord.
22:28:44 parisbre56 is now known as parisbre56[Away]
22:28:48 Radio_Controlled: Sweet dreams
paris!
22:28:56 syv: I suppose Radio has a point there; if you want to find a conversation that happened three weeks ago, it *is* simpler in Discord.
22:29:17 Radio_Controlled: IRC fine enough, mind, given I still come here.
22:29:39 syv: For IRC logging you'd either need one huge text log from having a perma-account (no thanks), or you'd need to click through the dates for the logs and search each individual day.
22:29:43 Radio_Controlled: But in terms of user friendliness, it doesn't hold a candle to discord really.
22:29:55 Devastator: That's also subjective.
22:30:05 syv: No, it's easier, and sleeker.
22:30:15 Devastator: I find it very friendly to have something start with a blank screen.
22:30:41 syv: Literally click a link and it's set up, with logs connected to scroll. For normal people--the usual litmus test for user friendliness--that's friendlier.
22:30:51 Devastator: Although,
RC, the weeks-old conversation is part of the reason I talk a lot in IRC PMs..
22:31:00 syv: It's not *better*, but it's friendlier.
22:31:02 Devastator: those tend to stick around a while when you never log off.
22:31:07 Devastator: Eh, still a subjective measure.
22:31:25 Radio_Controlled: It's more user friendly yes. I know how to set up a permanent account, but can't be arsed to.
22:31:51 Radio_Controlled: If something requires less effort or clicks or whatever, that's not really subjective, no.
22:32:26 syv: If your subjective measure is used in reference to the general population, and the general population broadly agrees, it's still a very useful point.
22:32:35 syv: "Star Wars is an enjoyable film series."
22:32:43 Devastator: Yeah it is, it's subejective to say that matters.
22:32:48 Devastator: but I can understand that point of view.
22:33:06 Devastator: Although, for the record, it takes me two clicks to start this up whenever I close it..
22:33:34 Devastator: Is that really too many?
22:33:36 Radio_Controlled: Then anything is subjective. "IRC doesn't send ninja's to anally probe me at night, which I find annoying." "Oh yeah well that's just, like, your opinion man."
22:33:53 Devastator: That's about how I feel sometimes.
22:33:57 Radio_Controlled: How many clicks did it take to set up the system?
22:34:15 MidJag_: Arguably everything in this argument comes down to taste and familiarity.
22:34:42 Devastator: ..about five. And maybe twenty keypresses to log in here. And a few spread out over a long period of time, such as setting up where my logs go and a few clicks whenever I change stuff.
22:35:02 syv: And now they're talking about furry porn sites, and having a bot auto-link images from it, though they appear to not be loading for me due to not having some setting flipped. That's nice, I guess.
22:35:06 Radio_Controlled: Then that's 4 more than you need for discord.
22:35:24 Radio_Controlled: We had the exact same types of convos in here when we still had the bots for it.
22:35:25 ER: that's the magic of discord,
syv
22:35:25 Devastator: well, no, I'd then need to enter a name and log in, which is like twenty-five keypresses.
22:35:34 Devastator: and find someone to send me a link.
22:35:38 Radio_Controlled: Don't you try to claim class in this place, of all places!
22:35:42 Devastator: I can't just find the thing and use that.
22:37:17 Devastator: And then two clicks to dismiss whatever the recent updates are.
22:37:37 Devastator: a dozen or so clicks to set it to not bug me with auto-linked images and emoji.
22:37:48 Devastator: ..which I have to redo next time as it didn't stick.
22:38:13 Devastator: and then about a minute for it to stop loading.
22:38:24 Devastator: and then I can chat, assuming it doesn't feed me any random blank screens or such again.
22:38:29 Radio_Controlled: I have just about none of those issues.
22:38:39 Devastator: And I have about none of your issues with IRC occuring for me.
22:39:10 Radio_Controlled: What are my issues with IRC, you think?
22:39:18 Radio_Controlled: Quote me my posts.
22:39:35 Devastator: It's not easy to use.
22:39:42 Radio_Controlled: 00:40
Radio_Controlled Quote me my posts.
22:39:46 Devastator: It's less user friendly.
22:39:52 Radio_Controlled: 00:41 Radio_Controlled 00:40
Radio_Controlled Quote me my posts.
22:40:02 Devastator: You can't find a conversation that occured a long time ago.
22:40:09 Radio_Controlled: 00:41 Radio_Controlled 00:41 Radio_Controlled 00:40
Radio_Controlled Quote me my posts.
22:40:25 Devastator: and IRC is not the thing these days.
22:40:36 Radio_Controlled: 00:41 Radio_Controlled 00:41 Radio_Controlled 00:41 Radio_Controlled 00:40
Radio_Controlled Quote me my posts.
22:41:10 Radio_Controlled: Only took about 4 tries, wow.
22:41:27 Devastator:
Radio_Controlled To be fair, discord is, like, the thing these days.
22:42:01 Radio_Controlled: Which is an objective fact given the number of people and activity on the bonezone discord compared to here.
22:42:30 PyroDesu: ^ he speaks the truth.
22:42:36 syv: @Radio we didn't have bots linking porn, and of the people who visited, only
Piecewise ever linked porn. A lot more than one person is linking porn now, by using the bot.
22:42:48 Radio_Controlled: Though admittedly not all of the time, there's times this place is more active.
22:42:48 syv: I don't like the activity that goes on there, frankly.
22:43:02 Devastator:
Radio_Controlled I personally find discord to be vastly easier to use than IRC.
22:43:03 Radio_Controlled: I remember people linking porn back at
pw in retaliation.
22:43:04 Devastator:
Radio_Controlled I can find information or specific parts of a convo much easier than on IRC, and it logs without me having to set things up for it (which admittedly might also be a disadvantage).
22:43:05 Devastator:
Radio_Controlled But in terms of user friendliness, it doesn't hold a candle to discord really.
22:43:07 Devastator:
Radio_Controlled It's more user friendly yes. I know how to set up a permanent account, but can't be arsed to.
22:43:22 Devastator: Also, it tracks everyone who has ever logged into the channel, for the record.
22:43:32 Devastator: That naturally inflates numbers a lot.
22:44:33 Radio_Controlled: "I personally find discord to be vastly easier to use than IRC." this is my personal experience after using the two, bringing that up as a point as to why IRC isn't actually more or less user friendly doesn't even make sense.
22:44:44 syv: I remember people linking porn at
Piecewise *once*. Is it unusual that at this specific moment people are linking porn in
PW's Discord?
22:44:56 Radio_Controlled: "it logs without me having to set things up for it " again an objective fact.
22:45:13 MidJag_: Dubs linked porn all the time back in the day.
22:45:22 Devastator: It's subjective if that feature is a good thing,
RC.
22:45:35 Radio_Controlled: "I can find information or specific parts of a convo much easier than on IRC" also a fact given the more elaborate search function.
22:45:50 ER: Somewhat unusual? I started it to bury the flames in shitpost.
22:45:54 Radio_Controlled: It is subjective is any feature for anything in existance is a good thing.
22:46:17 ER: I can't actually see the pictures, so it's just a funny thing to throw at people, really~
22:47:44 Devastator: Well, not necessarily.
22:47:46 Radio_Controlled: "This car has safety belts and that one doesn't, making it safer." "Well yeah, but that feature is totally subjective, maybe I /want/ my kids to go flying through the wirndshield at the first hard stop I make."
22:47:56 Devastator: It's easier to find specific information if you know exactly what you're searching for.
22:48:24 Devastator: Again,
RC, that's how I feel. The stuff I care about, people look at me like I'm from Mars.
22:48:30 Devastator: but I still feel that way.
22:48:42 Radio_Controlled: And that's fine, you like what you like.
22:48:46 Devastator: The modern future, if you don't like it, go fuck yourself, you have to use it anyway.
22:48:59 Devastator:
RC, the biggest reason the bonezone is popular has nothing to do with any of that.
22:49:07 Devastator: It's popular because
Piecewise is on it.
22:49:28 Devastator: The most important factor is 'does it let me communicate with the person I want to talk to?'
22:49:33 Devastator: That's more important than anything else.
22:49:53 Devastator: So, as such, there will only be one popular format at a time, regardless of if it's good or bad or whatever.
22:49:59 Radio_Controlled: But then don't go around proclaiming your particular tastes to be the universal truth. eg. "00:20
Devastator I just wish Discord wasn't so terrible."
22:50:11 Devastator: I do wish it wasn't so terrible.
22:50:20 Devastator: and other people proclaim their tastes as the absolute truth.
22:50:27 Devastator: I'm fine at defending that statement.
22:50:41 Devastator: And yeah, it's okay if you don't agree with me.
22:50:51 Radio_Controlled: Before the bonezone was a thing
pw still came on here, yet lots of people who are now on the discord weren't coming in here anymore.
22:50:57 ER: I'm mostly annoyed that it takes some tinkering to make it not waste a bunch of room, and that it's not 'open'.
22:51:19 Radio_Controlled: This IRC was really popular once, but even before the discord it was past its heyday.
22:51:46 Radio_Controlled: Now you are contradicting yourself
dev.
22:52:52 PyroDesu: I will say that it's partially because of Discord that I'm diving back into this insanity. I'm on there *anyways* for other stuff, which uses it because it's fairly easy to create and manage a bunch of different channels all contained in a single server.
22:52:54 Radio_Controlled: "I just wish Discord wasn't so terrible." is not a statement of personal preference or a judgement based on what you personally find important, but one of objective truth. But then you constantly respond with "that's subjective" when discussing the features.
22:53:50 Devastator: Yeah it's a statement of personal preference.
22:54:07 Devastator: "I wish Raspberries weren't so terrible."
22:54:25 Radio_Controlled: So if the features you find important and how you experience various burdens are subjective, it means you can't go around making objective statements about one being shit.
22:54:34 Devastator: Objective statements?
22:54:50 Radio_Controlled: "I wish Raspberries didn't taste so terrible to me."
22:54:58 Devastator: Saying that I find something terrible is a subjective statement.
22:55:07 syv: Radio, how long have you known
Dev?
22:55:12 Devastator: I didn't say that you found it terrible.
22:55:15 Radio_Controlled: True, but that is not what you said.
22:55:21 Devastator: I didn't say that everyone found it terrible.
22:55:22 syv: Are you seriously still picking on how he uses words?
22:55:31 Devastator: You mean the right way? ;-p
22:55:31 Radio_Controlled: "I find X to be terrible" =/= "X is terrible"
22:55:36 Radio_Controlled: Yes and I will never stop.
22:55:40 Devastator: They're the same thing.
22:55:42 syv: Because he's been like this for as long as I've known him.
22:55:51 Radio_Controlled: I don' think they are, no.
22:55:54 Devastator: Terrible isn't an objective argument.
22:56:04 Devastator: It's an expression of overall quality.
22:56:09 Devastator: There is no objective measure of quality.
22:56:46 Devastator: Unless you're going to say something needs like 60% badness on the Universal Badness Scale to count as 'terrible'.
22:57:32 Radio_Controlled: If you think there is nothing but subjective personal opinions, then you can either let your language reflect that or make objective statements while proclaiming them to be impossible or meaningless.
22:57:58 syv: He's going to do the latter forever.
22:58:05 Radio_Controlled: Of coursed he will.
22:58:30 syv: Though, honestly Radio, is it so unusual? Most people I know, after watching a movie they dislike, will say it was a bad movie.
22:58:44 Devastator: I don't know,
RC, I'm reminded of a recent bit I read about how lots of people can't tell the difference between a statement of fact and a statement of opinion.
22:58:51 Radio_Controlled: I am a modern day sishyphus, but way dumber.
22:58:52 syv: Very very few people preface all their statements of dislike with "in my opinion".
22:58:58 Devastator: I think you may have fallen into the increasingly-large latter group.
22:59:26 Radio_Controlled: True, but with
dev you either rigorously define every word or you get nowhere.
22:59:53 syv: ...Have you gotten anywhere *after* rigorously defining every word, man?
22:59:58 Radio_Controlled: That's just about the only way I've ever gotten to any sort of conclusion or synthesis.
23:00:07 Devastator: Well, you rigourously yell at me to define my words while expecting me to translate colloquial statments on your behalf.
23:00:31 Radio_Controlled: Yes, actually, after much effort and headbanging. :p
23:00:33 syv: It looks to me like you just spent an hour arguing with him about the meanings of words, when both of you knew exactly what the words meant to begin with. '>.>
23:00:45 Devastator: Yeah, looks like that to me.
23:01:02 syv: Which is pretty standard for
Dev, but you...
23:01:23 syv: I got my armor, I'm happy.
23:01:31 syv: And a promise I'll get to punch people.
23:01:47 Radio_Controlled: Because if I don't
dev, I'm sorry to say, you'll twist the meaning of words or read things into stuff that isn't there and getting anywhere is impossible.
23:02:11 syv: Getting places with him is possible, but you need to work with him.
23:02:12 Devastator: It's kinda a twist to state that 'terrible' is anything but a subjective, qualitative statment,
RC.
23:02:17 syv: I should know, I do it all the time! ;P
23:03:08 Radio_Controlled: It's easy when you agree I suppose, I'll admit bashing something with
dev is great fun. :D
23:04:34 Devastator: The tough part is that I do seem to think about things in a different manner than you do, which makes it harder sometimes.
23:04:48 syv: I mean just ignoring his complaints about things and sidestepping them.
23:05:00 syv: He doesn't really shift negative opinions. Ever.
23:05:20 ER: hey
dev what's the best videogame
23:05:32 Devastator: A lot of times they're a lot more nuanced than just 'negative', thouhg.
23:06:08 syv: If nuance is measured in wordcount, absolutely. ;3
23:07:07 Devastator: Oh come on, you know I can have complicated, multifaceted opinions about something I didn't like very much, that hits on a lot of different points about it, from different directions.
23:07:53 Devastator: A lot of times I'll shorten it, because people don't want to read 1800 word digressions on why I don't really like something.
23:08:03 syv: I admit, you can find a staggering number of flaws in even the most seemingly mundane of services. Sometimes they're even convicing, hich is genuinely impressive.
23:08:25 Devastator: And Alleg is the best video game,
ER, because it's the one that I've had the most fun playing.
23:09:05 ER: see? positive opinions are also immovable! ;P
23:09:27 MidJag_:
Dev is just in general rather immovable
23:09:43 Devastator: Yeah, that's probably true.
23:09:46 syv: We need to find an unstoppable force, bow.
23:09:53 Devastator: I do move around, but not that much.
23:10:09 syv: Maybe GWG would work, I *can* contact him...
23:10:23 Devastator: ..also, a lot of times I express an opinion on stuff, I've already read/watched a lot of it.
23:10:34 Devastator: so I don't talk too much about first impressions on things I don't know that well.
23:10:43 Devastator:
syv asked me about MLP a few days ago, and I don't know much about that.
23:10:56 Devastator: so yeah, that opinion isn't fixed in stone.
23:11:04 syv: You still have opinions on it, they're just less nuanced by wordcount.
23:11:28 ER: fact: the unstoppible force is just an immovable object in a different reference frame. When they collide the ignore each other and pass through unharmed. :P
23:11:37 Devastator: I genuinely don't know much about it, and as such, don't have a complicated opinion. That one is still very much subject to change, if I see stuff in it I like or don't like.
23:12:00 syv: So you're saying that if we put
Dev and GWG in the same chatroom, they'd ignore each other?
23:12:47 Devastator: I've had arguments with GWG before.
23:13:02 Devastator: when he was banned, we were arguing about those Rothfuss novels.
23:13:32 Devastator: Admittedly, it was about something immeasurable and completely subjective, but it was recreational more than anything.
23:13:41 MidJag_: I have actually read more of those. I stand by my opionion of. They're okay.
23:14:45 MidJag_: I would recommend the Stormlight archives as an excellent fantasy series if anyone has a decent chunk of time to kill.
23:14:56 Devastator: Hmm, haven't heard of those.
23:15:19 syv has many chunks of time to kill and many many more things to kill that time with
23:15:19 Devastator: (How much time will Kvothe spend in the university during part 3, too much or not too much.)
23:15:41 Devastator: so completely subjective and immeasurable.
23:15:49 MidJag_: You just need to be more efficent with your killing of time
syv, set up a factory or something.
23:17:25 Radio_Controlled: Gas time in a gulag.
23:18:34 ER: it's do delicious and moist
23:18:53 Radio_Controlled: 'time gulag' sounds like the title for an edgy sci-fi thriller.
23:19:14 Radio_Controlled: One where they build a prison for all the time travelers and our protag has to escape.
23:23:21 Devastator: I think I've heard of that novel, actually.
23:23:32 Devastator: Although it isn't a recent one, something from the sixties.
23:24:18 Radio_Controlled: A thing I just came up with but apparently has been thought up already somewhere, sometime.
23:25:25 Radio_Controlled: There's just been too much people thinking of stuff already, all the low hanging fruit has been plucked already. These days you gotta invest -effort- to be original, and who has time for that?
23:25:45 Devastator: Well, it wasn't quite a gulag, IIRC, just something vaguely similar.
23:25:54 Devastator: I'm sure someone has invented the Temporal Prision, though.
23:26:13 syv: Give in and make derivatives, Radio.
23:26:26 syv: It's not hard to find something that was done okay, and then doibg it *well*.
23:26:51 Radio_Controlled: But that's not /unique/ enough for this snowflake
syv.
23:26:58 Devastator: I'd still like a forum game based on.. hang on, I've got the book for it right here.
23:27:07 Radio_Controlled: I must be the most special of all.
23:27:09 syv: You are doomed to sadness and despair, Radio.
23:27:28 Radio_Controlled: But man, what a view.
23:28:14 MidJag_: Clash by night sounds like a weird knockoff band from the 80s
23:28:18 Devastator: Combat between companies of mercenaries sailing the seas of Venus.
23:28:46 MidJag_: Actually it sounds like if you took Rush and the Clash and shoved them together.
23:29:10 Devastator: Everything is on the sea because the land is hugely overgrown jungle filled with horrifying diseases and velociraptors with twice the strength and four times faster.
23:29:37 Devastator: You can build there, but you need a permiter completely manned with flamethrowers.
23:30:16 MidJag_: cool. I'm using one of those bases for MP. They might all die in a forest fire, but damn they'll look cool.
23:31:19 Devastator: Also, most of the reason for the existance of the mercenaries is that the controlled underground environmental domes that most people live in have very little room for people who are restless.
23:31:23 Radio_Controlled: Power and... Pulse?
23:31:43 Radio_Controlled: What a strange and novel thing I seem to remember vaguely from somewhere in the distant past.
23:33:00 ER: this is why P&P has such dumb lore, I gotta stay "original" ;p
23:35:14 Radio_Controlled: And what is the reason the updates are a major geological period apart?
23:35:59 Devastator: Hey, my game is more overdue than that.
23:36:00 syv: "Space faring civilization has feudal knights piloting giant mecha. Has yet to invrnt circles."
23:36:18 Devastator: Ahh, the wonder of archeotect-based civilization.
23:36:20 Radio_Controlled: Right, how -are- the doggos?
23:36:49 Radio_Controlled: Can't invent an imaginary concept silly.
23:36:53 Devastator: Okay. Radiation guy rolled good for once.
23:37:21 Devastator: not enough to overcome the pile of 2s he had, but enough to get most of it out of the habitat.
23:37:22 ER: I look forwards to you inventing circles so I can force you to use only boring tanks and helichoptors. :V
23:37:48 Radio_Controlled: As a lifelong threadhead, I'd say, bring it on.
23:40:46 Radio_Controlled: Bah, how did that extra 'h' get in there?
23:40:57 Radio_Controlled: Must be a filthy mage plot.
23:41:46 ER: I feel like playing some HUNTSHOWDOWN
23:43:48 syv: Better way to procrastinate than most.
23:44:39 syv: It's actually pretty great,
MJ. Kinda like PUBG with less gambling, less people, more victims, progression, and more teamwork.
23:44:50 Devastator shudders at the mention of progression.
23:44:55 syv: And you aren't guaranteed to either die or kill ten other people.
23:45:20 MidJag_: Hmmm, I would tottally get that if I had a comp that could play that at the place I'm living currentlly.
23:45:30 MidJag_: What sorta system does it need actually?
23:45:33 syv: I love counting the points I get given for doing simple things.
23:45:34 ER: reading the patch notes now, actually
23:45:42 syv: A fairly high-end one, actually.
23:45:52 ER: apparantly they announced a bunch of NEW SHIT at E3 and I somehow did not hear of this! :V
23:46:07 Radio_Controlled: So
dev, not gonna join our merry crew in spa- erm, the dirt?
23:46:20 syv: MY gaming comp can't run it at 30 FPS with minimum settings, and it's not too shabby, if a bit old.
23:46:24 Radio_Controlled: We need more moth people to oppress and such.
23:46:40 Devastator: Eh, probably not, not since Coven is starting again. That'll bring me up to about four regular games and two mostly dead ones.
23:46:57 MidJag_: Damn. Well then I will unfortunately not be able to play that in any way shape or form for the foreseeable future.
23:47:29 MidJag_: unless it's crossplatform?
23:47:38 syv: It's not like you have time to play games though, so whatever. :P
23:48:20 Devastator: Also,
syv, from personal experience I would recommend you not going rebel in Dig.
23:48:41 syv: I specifically talked with
Piecewise about that.
23:48:55 syv: He confirmed that I wouldn't get Leo'd
23:49:03 syv: It was a concern of mine, yes.
23:49:20 Devastator: ..weren't you the one who decided to shove Leo in a closet in the first place?
23:49:40 syv: *I* wasn't. I don't think. Maybe. It was a decision anyone would make.
23:49:49 sy has joined #einsteinianroulette
23:49:54 ER: because fuck that guy right
23:49:55 syv has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:50:40 Radio_Controlled: So what did you wrangle out of
pw? A great diamond codpiece of protect: 5?
23:51:57 MidJag_: So a new Dig is starting up?
23:52:46 syv: Protective 4 full body armor, without a helmet at my request.
23:52:56 ER: come be a moth person with us!
23:52:58 MidJag_: cool, is it different from the old dig?
23:53:15 Radio_Controlled: Yeah, in quite a few ways.
23:53:20 Devastator: I haven't shot
syv's character in the face yet.
23:53:29 syv: It has a lot of furries, and a stat system that isn't completely broken.
23:53:31 Devastator: best time to crit ever.
23:53:38 Radio_Controlled: And you never will unless you join!
23:53:46 Devastator: Nah. Too much magic.
23:53:57 Radio_Controlled: Then play a non-magic dude.
23:54:05 Devastator: It looks moderately interesting, I might join if the game holds together for more than a few months.
23:54:08 Radio_Controlled: Shoot faces off.
23:54:23 Radio_Controlled: Swashbuckle with yer knuckle.
23:54:24 MidJag_: Does it need a lot of time commitment?
23:54:33 Radio_Controlled: Dunno, it just started.
23:54:38 syv: It's a
Piecewise game,
MJ.
23:54:42 Radio_Controlled: not more than another
pw game though I think?
23:54:50 Devastator: I also have a few games I need to post orders in, though, so I'll do that today.
23:55:14 Radio_Controlled: So a little if you wanna keep up with it all, but if you just tag along most of the time and try to do /something/ it should be fine.
23:55:17 MidJag_: So possiblly
syv. The answer there is possiblly.
23:55:21 syv: It needs more time than you have. I mean, you posted ONCE in Chalice, after specifically asking to get in.
23:55:32 syv may still be a bit salty about that
23:55:37 Radio_Controlled: Congrats on outlasting the bugmen by the way,
dev.
23:55:42 Devastator: Should join up with Saeko in Cabal.
23:55:44 MidJag_: heh, and that was when I actually thought I had free time.
23:55:52 Devastator: Yeah, I let
PW know that was my plan, and he said it'd probably work.
23:55:59 Devastator: I think he just timed it out to save a few turns.
23:56:30 Devastator: Plus I might have farmed up some mana while timing things out, which would have been a little brokne.
23:56:36 Devastator: thanks for the congrats, though.
23:56:37 Radio_Controlled: Still thinking the other dozens of bugdudes should have amounted to more than glorified spectators, but hey, good on you.
23:56:51 Devastator: I think they had genuine issues with light.
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