00:02:26 parisbre56: Oh,
ER,
RC made a good point that I might be better off taking an Einsteinian Roulette style Electrified Surface Defense system or Claymore Surface Defense system. Is something like that possible?
00:02:59 Radio_Controlled: Is it ok for all involved if I copy-paste the P&P-related parts of this IRC discussion to a pastebin or whatever and dump it in the discord for later reference?
00:03:26 parisbre56: Sure, i'm fine with that
00:04:20 parisbre56: I should had probably asked all that there to begin with
00:06:05 Devastator: Nah, then nobody could read it later.
00:06:17 Devastator: It's only useful when you see it in the first place.
00:06:21 Devastator: Gotta get that bot working.
00:07:25 parisbre56: My bnc logs stuff, I could give you a link if you want
00:07:38 Devastator: nah, that's fine for me, I've got my own logs.
00:08:15 parisbre56: Wait, nevermind
ER, I think I'll stick with my flamer
00:08:26 parisbre56: just thought of another use for it:
00:08:39 parisbre56: even if the enemy can defend against the fire
00:09:14 parisbre56: they probably won't be able to survive getting deprived of oxygen
00:09:40 Devastator: heh, that's an idea.
00:09:44 Devastator: better not post that to discord.
00:11:37 parisbre56: well, I'll post my character and go to sleep
00:13:10 parisbre56: wait, is lenglon in P&P?
00:14:49 Radio_Controlled: That'll be quite the flamer if it can asphyxiate them like that!
00:15:11 Radio_Controlled: She went on a spirit quest and everything.
00:17:37 parisbre56: she's already sent me two PMs to update my game, I hope she doesn't do something silly like get mad at me for making a character instead of updating
00:17:57 Devastator: Hurt her character, and see what happens next.
00:18:49 Radio_Controlled: I know that oxygen deprivation and toxic gasses are quite deadly in things like house fires, but I'm not sure how much it'll matter in a flamer weapon.
00:19:10 Devastator: Pretty good, actually, you can asphyxiate people with gun exhaust.
00:19:23 Radio_Controlled: But it can help, and conveniently doesn't hurt us (except maybe obstructing vision from smoke I guess).
00:19:23 Devastator: It'd probably get things done good.
00:19:58 Radio_Controlled: Maybe in enclosed spaces, in open air, dunno, they'll probably be hurt more from the actual flame action before asphyxiating.
00:20:52 parisbre56: well, you were talking about sewer levels, so enclosed spaces are possible
00:21:06 Devastator: Well, yes, the flame part of it is usually the more damaging part of a flamethrower.
00:21:07 parisbre56: then again, how do you fit a Titan in a sewer?
00:21:13 Devastator: but the gases killing people is definately possible.
00:21:17 Radio_Controlled: Very carefully?
00:21:35 Radio_Controlled: Mages could get things like gas masks for free, but then they'd have to think of it.
00:21:44 Radio_Controlled: So it might work once at the very least.
00:23:11 ER: How to fit a Titan into a sewer: disassemble it first.
00:25:02 Radio_Controlled: Really, one mage with pockets could take tons and tons of useful stuff for their whole team.
00:25:41 Radio_Controlled: Though based on what yotta (or dustan?) said, the mage discord seems to be mostly memes, so maybe they're not really into the team aspect of the game?
00:29:55 Radio_Controlled: Ah, but maybe they've shaped up since then and are expertly planning our demise AS WE SPEAK!
00:30:07 Devastator: Nah, they're going to wing it.
00:30:22 Radio_Controlled: Maybe that's what they want us to think!
00:30:31 Devastator: and then win due to either self-inflicted damage or a random one-shot attack.
00:30:35 Radio_Controlled: Can't figure out their plan if there /is/ no plan!
00:30:51 Devastator: There is that Red Mage quote about a plan making too little sense to fail.
00:33:02 ER: Sometimes the best plan really is to not think too hard about it.
00:34:01 Devastator: Sometimes it's best to play to your strengths, not to their weaknesses.
00:36:31 Radio_Controlled: One doesn't exclude the other.
00:37:37 Radio_Controlled: What was the ol' Sun Tzu quote again?
00:37:49 Radio_Controlled: “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
00:39:08 ER: Knowing the situation is more important than having a plan.
00:40:19 Radio_Controlled: Again, one doesn't exclude the other.
00:43:00 Radio_Controlled: Besides, then you just add "Knowing the situation and adapt as needed" to your plan, and blamo, foolproof! :p
00:43:39 ER: Or you could know the situation and then constuct a plan off of actual intel.
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00:48:20 Radio_Controlled: At no point did I advocate making plans while ignoring intell though?
00:48:35 Radio_Controlled: But you won't always have the luxury of having all the intell you want.
00:49:09 ER: Which is why you should tally forth and go get some.
00:50:15 Radio_Controlled: Aka bombard you with questions?
00:51:03 ER: Note: accuracy of question answers not guaranteed. Terms and conditions may apply.
00:51:21 ER: See a doctor is questions remain unanswered for over 4 hours.
00:52:15 Radio_Controlled: Damn them, outsourcing tech support.
00:53:12 Radio_Controlled: "Did you try putting it off and on again?"
00:59:23 Radio_Controlled: Anyways, time for bed.
00:59:41 Radio_Controlled: Good night you lunatics, don't burn down the asylum while I'm away!
01:21:06 Devastator: no more spider game.
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04:09:38 ER: I have six players, I no longer have any excuses.
04:10:20 syv: Seems I was right to ping the lurker.
04:13:05 ER: I also have probably as many people as I can expect for Chalice.
04:13:45 Devastator: I was down to one for a bit.
04:13:49 ER: Including me, that's three whole people!
04:15:10 Devastator: being expected back isn't that big a deal in such a large family.
04:15:17 Devastator: any day where someone gets fed somewhere else is a good day.
04:17:31 syv: It's more that Alida tends to take care of the rest of her family. Mother works a lot, no father, elder sis is part time and isn't realy enough.
04:17:57 Devastator: Well, it isn't like Alida is goofing off with these trips.
04:18:59 syv: I think we've got a remarkably good setup for dealing with the Unreal in Chalice. We've got infinite repairs, a lot of environmental protection, and strong non-word offensive power.
04:19:12 ER:
syv, do you really want the remaining words from Dreamer's gate, or can I sell a few of them to buy food and water for our trip?
04:19:44 syv: Lemme look over them again.
04:19:53 ER: Concrete, wood, orbitingorbs, spear.
04:20:03 ER: all could be pretty useful.
04:20:13 ER: all T2, except wood which is T1
04:20:26 syv: I want crow and concrete, the rest are sellable.
04:22:06 syv: Very tempted to keep AffectUser too, but it's only ever useful in combos. :\
04:22:16 ER: Oh, you also listed AffectUser but I'd already taken that one... oh, I forgot to remove it from the list of available.
04:22:33 syv: Well that solves that conundrum!
04:22:34 ER: So you no can haz that! >:|
04:22:59 ER: It's so that I can AffectUser Protect Protect Protect.
04:26:41 ER: What, is that unlikely to work?
04:27:14 syv: It's likely to work, it's just really really inefficient.
04:28:49 ER: It's effecent if that sheer insistance on being protected is the difference between living and dying.
04:29:54 syv: One protect should really be enough though.
04:29:56 ER: Like I dunno, if a volcano goes off right next to us and we have one turn to react before being covered in several tons of molten rock.
04:30:14 syv: And you're relying on your ability to judge an attack as THE attack.
04:30:35 syv: Well okay, it won't be overkill if we accidentally create a volcano in the middle of the city. I'll give you that.
04:30:59 ER: I'm *relying* on not being in front of THE attack. This is backup.
04:35:03 ER: And really, I don't need to commit to exactly what I want to use words for when I pick them. So being able to cast a supermegashield is why I picked them, I can always use my protects differently if the situation demands.
04:35:28 Devastator: be glad you have one turn to attack.
04:37:20 syv: Yes, yes, were
Dev ever to run a PvP game, it would actually be just Mafia with only scum; every person would be able to kill other players with 100% reliability, and there would be no defense from attacks.
04:44:18 Devastator: There would be plenty of defense from attacks, you'd just need to do things before it's needed.
04:44:30 Devastator: have things done before they're needed, sorry.
04:44:46 Devastator: like 'get in cover' or 'cover your lines of fire.'
04:45:10 ER: Eh, I assume that an AffectUser Protect would last only a turn or so.
04:45:41 Devastator: I think it'd be pretty weak, but could last a while.
04:45:43 ER: It's inherently reactionary, so it only works against things I can react to.
04:45:43 syv: I think an AffectUser Protect Protect Protect would last only one turn as well.
04:47:26 syv: Oh,
Devastator, why'd you drop Battlemobs?
04:47:40 Devastator: It'll be back. I just want to be working first.
04:49:38 ER: Since nobody else is taking it, and I have room, guess I'm grabbing MarkCaster'sEyes
04:49:50 ER: Despite that being very useless for me.
04:50:44 syv: I think that's definitely a sell. It's near useless since everyone already has eye-tatts, and it takes up a space that could be filled with some word from the Unreal.
04:51:43 syv: ...No? I've sold tons of them...
04:52:03 Devastator: It's the new rules.
04:52:12 ER: You mean permanant ones, right?
04:52:22 ER: Can't sell permanant gang words
04:52:51 Devastator: Don't the non-permanent eye tatts go away after one use?
04:53:52 Devastator: I had one with a mark full body that didn't go off.
04:55:43 syv: Okay, so gang words *are* worthless now.
04:55:56 Devastator: Other than to cast spells with them.
04:57:56 Devastator: which is of some use.
04:58:24 syv: Hey
Dev, do you get another set of gang words each mission regardless of whether they're used?
04:58:48 Devastator: That's what
PW said.
04:58:53 syv: So if we don't use cloud for three missions in a row, but did keep them available, we'd have four clouds in the fourth?
04:58:55 Devastator: although it's now one set to be distributed.
04:59:38 syv: That's what I thought, but there was a lot of restating and retconning going on in the thread. The only solid list of rules I see was decided *against*.
04:59:44 syv: It's simpler just to ask you.
05:03:18 Devastator: "So no trading gang words,
dev gets some words, and rules go to what they should be after this mission."
05:03:33 Devastator: and what they should be meant one set of gang words per gang per mission.
05:03:46 Devastator: Yes you can store them up, so long as you put them on people.
05:03:59 ER: The rules of Chalice make perfect sense.
05:06:08 syv: And are unintuitive though not entirely contradicted by the OP's RAW. -.-
05:07:17 ER: RAW absolutely gets across the intended version of Chalice's ruleset with no clairification required.
05:08:27 syv: Hey
Dev, want me to finish Lufia tonight?
05:08:35 Devastator: If you're game for it, certainly.
05:10:45 Devastator: good luck getting three protect words, though.
05:11:11 syv: I'm in town, just got the third macguffin girl, "Clare". Selan is poisoned by eh, whatever. It's never stopped her before.
05:11:49 Devastator: Man,
RC really doesn't know baseball.
05:13:24 Devastator: Yeah.. you're almost done.
05:14:08 syv: Most of the loot in these dungeons sucks.
05:15:55 Devastator: Well, yeah, you're at the end.
05:16:11 Devastator: and most of the stuff from the infinite dungeon is as good as anything in the game.
05:18:58 Devastator: which one is this one?
05:20:25 syv: After the protag showed off his fancy particles-in-a-circle powers.
05:22:23 syv: ...And it's apparently canon that Selan's warp teleports the ship too, regardless of its location? I always assumed that was just for convenience.
05:22:46 syv: Also, they decided to warp the ship to repair it without even looking at the thing.
05:22:47 Devastator: Might as well be canon.
05:22:50 Devastator: it does come with you.
05:25:28 syv: Oh come on why the hell is Dekar alive? Ugh.
05:29:16 syv: Since the bosses are technically individual characters despite having massive sprites, and there's four of them, do I eventually kill all four at once?
05:30:25 Devastator: Because he's Dekar.
05:30:28 Devastator: of course he's alive.
05:30:41 Devastator: He's the strongest man in the world, after all.
05:30:47 syv: Final dungeon has a ton of miracles.
05:31:12 syv: He can't cast though, which makes him just about useless.
05:31:38 Devastator: That's okay, not like he's in the final party.
05:38:10 syv: Guy is, though, and he's pretty much the same.
05:39:22 syv: Dual blade actually kinda sucks, I expected more from it. Nice IP, but barely any damage boost over the sword I got in the last shop.
05:40:07 Devastator: Barely any over the second best weapon in the game, with an excellent I.P..
05:40:09 ER: guy man, the guy-iest man there ever was.
05:40:15 Devastator: well, that's most of the upgrades so far.
05:40:24 Devastator: That's more of a normal upgrade.
05:45:58 syv: The second best weapon in the game is Selan
05:46:33 syv: I'd argue it's actually better than dual blade because it innately gives huge attribute buffs, but I don't actually know hoe muvh dual blade gives.
05:47:46 Devastator: The att buffs are not a big deal.
05:47:58 Devastator: basically it's just attack rate and I.P. that counts.
05:48:06 Devastator: Getting a dragon spear was very lucky, though.
05:48:22 Devastator: Although if she's spellcasting you should have Guy use that.
05:49:03 syv: Speed seems to be most important. It means Arty and Selan can both full heal the entire party, or heal + revive if needed.
05:49:34 syv: She spellcasts, but also usually spends most of the time autoattacking because my unicorn normally heals the party for mobs.
05:49:50 syv: Also I don't think guy can wield it.
05:50:10 Devastator: Generally you want one to go first and someone to reliably go last.
05:50:19 Devastator: Guy is slow as fuck, so that's often his role.
05:51:12 Devastator: but yeah, if you're autoattacking with Selan and Arty you're kinda missing the point. Go cast Zap or the upgraded version of it a few times on the bosses.
05:51:39 Devastator: or have Selan drop the area attack buff on everyone, and then attack.
05:54:33 syv: Well Selan's dead now, so....
05:55:06 syv: Could just cast rally on her, since she died twice fighting bosses, but nahhhh, then the protag wouldn't be all alone.
06:00:56 syv: Well, it's done. Credits now.
06:03:39 syv: Selan died five times, Arty 3, protag 10, Guy 14, Dekar never, Lexis 7 (because I just stopped reviving him after that).
06:03:55 Devastator: Told you Dekar was the strongest man in the world.
06:04:05 syv: Nah, he was just tanky as hell.
06:05:15 syv: Pretty meh. It has good puzzles, and the dungeon crawling was adequate for turning off and just wasting time, but not much else.
06:05:38 syv: I guess the protags dying at the end was refreshingly unexpected, but it wasn't that great.
06:06:21 ER: Expected, because
Dev likes it.
06:06:22 Devastator: I don't think any RPG from that era would fit your requirements for being that great.
06:06:40 Devastator:
Syv didn't see it coming, and he knows I like it.
06:06:57 syv: 787 battles, 53 hours played (though most of that is with a speedhack, so more like 20 hours), 525 ancient cave fights, 18 hours in it.
06:07:13 ER: Eh, I figured something "sad" would happen, from how you talked about it.
06:07:55 Devastator: It's pretty sad,
ER.
Syv just doesn't have a heart anymore.
06:08:18 syv: I have a heart! It just takes significantly better writing to move it.
06:08:21 Devastator: Should have recommended Terranigma. It's about 15 hours or so not 30.
06:08:58 Devastator: That may be true, but the line being set at 'Puella Magi Madoka Magica' makes for a hard bar to clear.
06:09:31 Devastator: Not as sad, but the baseline quality is better.
06:09:38 syv: PM3 didn't move my heart either. :P
06:09:48 Devastator: Thanks for playing it.
06:09:58 syv: Remember, I was happy when chars died in that.
06:10:13 syv: Sure. I usually play games when people insist I do so...
06:10:48 Devastator: Terranigma isn't too bad, but overall I'd call it about that level. Gameplay is a bit more interesting, but there's no puzzles.
06:11:38 Devastator: Although you could just watch one of DDRJakes annual playtrhoughs of that instead of playing it.
06:12:29 Devastator: yeah, he did it a couple years running.
06:12:32 Devastator: Not sure if he's still doing it.
06:13:59 syv: Sounds like a true goblin.
06:15:07 Devastator: annual was a self-proclaimed appelation.
06:15:12 Devastator: but he did that more than once.
06:16:14 Devastator: There you go, anyway.
06:16:40 Devastator: "I play this game every year to remind myself of why I love video games."
06:16:45 Devastator: I like it, but not to that level.
06:17:27 syv: I don't like anything to that level...
06:18:11 Devastator: That would describe me with Allegiance.
06:18:23 Devastator: and probably Rendezvous with Rama and books.
06:21:15 syv: Rendezvous with Rama is amazing though.
06:25:34 syv:
ER, are you not distributing markeyes?
06:26:53 syv: Might as well throw the word at Corven, since he has the space and can just junk it if he runs out.
06:27:01 ER: Radio doesn't want it, you don't want it, it would just take a up a slot for me and maybe take away my main asset if I ever tried to get rid of it...
06:33:12 syv: I only refused it because I didn't have space and thought we could sell words.
06:34:58 ER: Sigh, okay you can have them then.
06:35:59 syv: All the ability to nitpick of actually being in control, without actually having to do the work~
06:36:58 ER: really you've just made me your accountant.
06:37:50 Devastator: All the perks, none of the duties.
06:39:39 syv: I never actually was a leader in the original Perplexicon, I was just a spy manipulating leaders. Maybe I don't like these followup games because I keep trying to lead?
06:41:39 Devastator: I'll definately say Chalice was easier when I didn't have to lead a gang.
06:52:00 ER: Would it be interesting at all to watch me play Cataclisim?
06:53:15 syv: I watched
Dev play Cataclysm, are you less interesting than
Dev?
06:53:31 syv: To restate: Do you have a mic attached?
06:54:07 ER: ...Not at the moment, and it might be rude to do so during the hours that you're awake.
06:54:15 syv is assuming you do in fact mean Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, and not Catacli Simulator
06:54:55 Devastator: Please pay five dollars to feed your walls, or wait 24 hours to recharge your energy.
06:55:02 ER: problem is having only ONE wall.
06:55:30 Devastator: don't you only need eight wall sections, one roof, and one door to make a house in Cata?
06:55:44 Devastator: (Although that would make a sad, sad house.)
06:56:03 syv: Also, does that mean if you ever do fix Hunt: Showdown, you'll be completely silent whenever playing with me?
06:56:11 ER: If you have a door, wouldn't that only be seven wall sections?
06:56:38 syv: Will you have to stream a video of yourself so I can see hand signals?
06:56:43 ER: ...Ah, might be more worth it if I'm actually playing with you.
06:57:28 ER: I should just move to a place far away from any humans.
06:58:25 syv: Nothing but xenophobic crazy swamp people around here, and they keep to themselves.
06:58:37 ER: I'd probably prefer the frozen wasteland or whatever to a swamp though.
06:59:00 Devastator: I know some proper backwoodsmen, I don't know what you'd think of them.
06:59:18 Devastator: A friend of mine got a great christmas gift of an anvil last year.
07:00:05 ER: See, that's the kind of gift you can USE!
07:00:25 Devastator: You know any smiths?
07:00:58 syv: Does having a last name of Smith count?
07:02:31 Devastator: I mean someone who can use an anvil recreationally.
07:02:51 syv: There ARE some weird people.
07:03:34 ER: Florida man, florida man... uses anvils for disturbing uses... like a florida can?
07:04:21 Devastator: Yeah, I'm not going to say there aren't weird swamp people in Florida.
07:05:32 syv: They're largely a minority though. Most of the people are in cities, near the beach. They're not REAL Floridians, though.
07:05:40 Devastator: Yeah, everyone lives in cities these days.
07:05:54 Devastator: no room for people to be interesting.
07:06:30 syv: Yeah, there's only room for that in Canada, but you guys have to huddle together for warmth so you can't take advantage.
07:16:13 Devastator: did you find
PW's ruleset about boners?
07:17:50 syv: Yup. Just posted about it, actually.
07:18:31 syv: Crotches are rather underpowered.
07:18:56 syv:
PW should make them hold two organ.
07:19:51 syv: I was thinking more like intestines, but sure.
07:20:23 Devastator: CCDA? Soviet Roguelike?
07:21:01 syv: Livers are fairly small for an organ, you could totally fit more than one in a ribcage.
07:22:42 ER: that would be because I did not click the button to start streaming.
07:23:46 Devastator: you must take no more than 6 in any stat.
07:23:56 syv: Robust genetics is also great.
07:24:17 syv: Though the actual munchkin traits are quick and fleetfooted.
07:25:15 Devastator: Ahh,
ER, sounds exactly like I expected him to.
07:25:45 Devastator: Frail is pretty brutal.
07:26:16 syv: You sound the opposite I expected you to. I expected you to sound like MJ, and
MJ to sound like you.
07:26:29 Devastator: Nah
MJ also sounds like I expected him to.
07:26:33 syv: Back when we played Magicka the first time, and I heard both of your voices, that confused me.
07:26:35 Devastator: The only one I don't know about is you.
07:26:44 syv: Haven't you heard my voice?
07:26:57 Devastator: I do not recall it.
07:26:57 syv: I'm just about between them.
07:27:07 Devastator: I remember
MJ from Boxing Gloves McGee.
07:27:36 Devastator: take no more than six in any stat.
07:27:44 Devastator: You'll see why they're important.
07:27:54 syv: Equal distribution in str & dex.
07:29:34 syv: IIRC 11 per lets you always spot landmines, and int is mostly useful for boring things like reading and crafting.
07:29:47 syv: Str & Dex are both important for melee.
07:30:18 Devastator: Yeah, 4 per can also mean walking into a dissector in labs.
07:30:23 Devastator: watch out for that.
07:30:35 syv: Everyone does boring things when playing CDDA, but I'd hope not while you're streaming. :P
07:30:37 Devastator: they kinda hurt a bit.
07:31:55 syv: Aww, that was a missed opportunity.
07:32:04 syv: She's not alcoholic th-TILES?!
07:32:06 Devastator: It burrrns, it does, the nasties.
07:32:12 Devastator: you can get alcoholic.
07:32:16 Devastator: no reason you can get alcoholic in game.
07:32:27 Devastator: That might be fun, try to max the alcoholic addiction counter.
07:32:32 syv: Katia would definitely start with it.
07:32:57 syv: Fighting in a maid costume is hard, who'd've guessed?
07:33:03 Devastator: 6 str, 6 dex, no weapon. Probably didn't take any melee skill, did you?
07:33:36 Devastator: still, that's -6 or something from stats of 10/10, right?
07:34:06 syv: Pluuus torso and probably arm/leg encumbrance...
07:34:29 syv:
ER's gonna be beaten to death by a child in the first room, I guess.
07:34:30 Devastator: I don't know what exactly maids start with. Check with @?
07:34:54 syv: Huh. That is remarkably little penalty.
07:35:01 Devastator: don't steak knives have penalties to hit?
07:35:23 syv: 3 Torso enc used to give like -2 to melee or something else decently significant.
07:35:23 Devastator: -3 to hit, actually.
07:35:32 Devastator: It's very different in the new version.
07:35:44 Devastator: 3 enc is equivalent to 25 or something.
07:36:12 syv: Close the door behind you.
07:36:21 syv: So the child doesn't backstab you.
07:36:26 Devastator: steak knives have -3 to hit, so..
07:36:54 syv: Is that a penalty? I feel like melee weapons actually gave bonuses to hit when they were low, or something. Really not surw though.
07:37:18 Devastator: most decent melee weapons have bonuses to hit.
07:37:23 Devastator: steak knives aren't decent melee weapons.
07:37:44 syv: Okay then. I think I recall combat knives having -2, and that being good.
07:38:02 Devastator: a simple two-by-four has +1, IIRC.
07:40:11 Devastator: make the zombie step into the window, score a couple of free hits.
07:40:19 Devastator: use the furniture to keep them slowed.
07:43:20 syv: I loaded up my Cata, good weapons do indeed have bonuses.
07:43:48 syv: And I return to see exciting hiding-in-bathroom adventures.
07:44:04 syv: Wait long enough and maybe your husbando will send an axe through the door~
07:44:28 Devastator: I'll play one should
ER die early.
07:44:47 Devastator: new version and all.
07:44:54 syv: If
ER dies early he should stream something exciting and violent. Like Dishonored.
07:45:30 syv: Something that won't prompt her to hide in a closet. -.-'
07:46:16 syv: Psychopathic schizophrenic *maid*. Who is also a frail genius.
07:47:19 Devastator: pfft,
ER's just bad at this. ;-p
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07:49:53 syv: There actually is a peek button, but I don't think it works througg closed doors.
07:52:00 syv: If it's wood you'll get a 2x4.
07:52:20 syv: If it isn't, smash the door. Either way, 2x4's a decent weapon. Better than fists, at the least.
07:53:39 syv: You should prooobably stay insi...
07:54:15 syv: At least being mauled by a dog in the snow is more honorable than being beaten to death by a child?
07:56:31 syv: Oh. You can't. That's disappointing.
07:56:44 syv: Put the dog to sleep with it, then~
07:57:11 Devastator: that's for dog food.
07:57:22 syv: *throws only weapon at zombie dog*
07:58:02 syv: *Proceeds to engage in a fistfight with zombie dog whilst wearing maid outfit and heavy blanket*
07:58:28 syv: Really RPing that Schizophrenia.
07:58:45 Devastator: I don't see a shopping cart.
07:59:11 Devastator: pain will keep you from running at this poitn.
07:59:21 Devastator: There's a key for suicide.
07:59:41 Devastator: Well, I survived having it in the 350s once.
07:59:57 Devastator: (bad encounter with turret.)
08:02:09 syv: Locks and riddles of rings will spin~
08:04:08 ER: provided it runs on my current broken OS
08:09:53 syv: "5000: Content not available"
08:13:12 Devastator: yeah, it did that to me a bit ago.
08:34:40 syv: You wouldn't make it in SWAT like this.
08:35:26 syv: Look at them byootiful polygons
08:35:48 syv: What even killed you that time?
08:36:37 syv: Can you just ignore these guys?
08:37:56 syv: Fighting more than one at a time seems ill-advised.
08:38:08 syv: Can you teleport to the rooftops them snipe them with bolts?
08:43:53 syv: This guy's face looks like he sleeps with his head jammed into a corner.
08:53:43 syv: I think throwing the whale oil was a mistake. You really need to be stealthier.
08:55:23 syv: Not what I meant by stealthier~
08:57:14 syv: "Sooo booooring" he says, after ten seconds of crouching around.
08:59:54 syv: "Ohh, a chain!" *climbs up* "...Why did I do this?"
09:00:49 syv: Wait, go loot them! Looot!
09:02:11 syv: Did you get them ALL this time?!
09:06:58 syv: Stab the ratfaced laborers!
09:09:39 syv: Those are some sad rats. Most rats are pretty impressive jumpers.
09:14:39 syv: Maybe gas bombs will work on them?
09:15:13 syv: Hah, yeah, that certainly works.
09:16:52 syv: Maybe you'll find a bone charm in there.
09:19:02 syv: You could probably shoot them in the back to kill them.
09:22:38 syv: Yeah. they turn around way too fast.
09:45:22 syv: Kill everyone before leaving!
09:47:04 syv: People with guns are hard.
09:47:15 syv: Also, I think he decapitated you with a bullet.
09:47:26 Devastator: what kind of gun is that?
09:50:09 syv: Just a muzzleloader pistol.
09:51:20 Devastator: those are usually about what, .50 caliber? Still, a lot of bullet.
09:51:43 syv: You're doing *really* well all of a sudden.
10:02:48 syv: So... is there anything stopping you from just summoning assassins to kill every guard for you? Peek out, summon assassin, assassin backstabs then dies, repeat.
10:03:54 syv: Ahhh. I didn't realize there was a limit to how muh you could regen.
10:09:14 syv: Oooh, so close to dea--dead.
10:11:21 syv: You could toss a grenade into the house.
10:11:50 syv: Or just do that. That works too.
10:41:39 syv: Stop time, shoot the far guy, stab the close one.
10:41:47 syv: Then throw their bodies out the window.
11:07:22 ER: Different from both sneaky sneak low chaos and the MURDER EVERYONE run I did on very hard, which nessesarally involved some creeping about.
11:07:50 Devastator: go fast and shoot people in the face, but get knockouts and such when they're easier?
11:08:52 syv: Nah, he pretty much never went for nonlethal that I saw. He could just afford to charge in, throwing grenades and tanking gunshots like a boss.
11:09:32 ER: Yeah, the only time I used anything nonlethal was for some entirely unnessesary torture.
11:10:39 Devastator: how's that different than a murder everyone run?
11:11:26 ER: In that I was being careful to not die, and to make sure that EVERYONE dies.
11:11:43 ER: This run I was mostly just running in and grenading shit.
11:15:20 syv: Hey
ER. Can mechs have a spare arcane tank as an aux hardpoint?
11:16:03 syv: Or, perhaps, an arcane transfer system like that supply mech, so a support hardsuit can reliably act as a refueling mech?
11:16:18 syv: Aww you answered in Discord.
11:16:33 syv: Discord is inferior, even if I would've copy/pasted the answer there.
11:22:55 Devastator: Hmm, a couple new words today.
11:27:31 syv: ...Practically a synonym of "engaged". I can see why I've never heard it.
11:28:30 ER: We affianced the enemy at 14:00 yesterday?
11:29:38 syv: In situations where you'd use the term, context would indicat what you mean.
11:30:11 syv: "I'm engaged now." vs "I can't do that, I'm currently engaged."
11:30:18 Devastator: It's the proper term for engaged, something I'd like to know.
11:30:59 syv: It's not really useful except for appearing smart.
11:31:43 Devastator: It's the state of being engaged as a state of being not an adjective. But yeah, generally useless.
11:32:37 ER: Wouldn't that just be "engagement"
11:32:42 Devastator: I think I'd use it if I wanted to put an adjective on how you are currently in a state of engagement.
11:33:52 syv: "I find Dark Souls very affiancing. I want to marry it."
11:34:13 syv: Marriage is an outdated institution and should be replaced by the corporation.
11:35:37 Devastator: Nah, you know what's an outdated institution? Childhood. They should outlaw babies.
11:35:58 ER: Well that sure would make living forever easier.
11:36:01 syv: Cats are a much better investment.
11:36:45 ER: The only legal way to create new sapient beings should be by growing an AI~
11:37:09 syv: What about genetically modifying cats to talk?
11:37:10 ER: More control, more compact, consumes less energy.
11:37:35 syv: Also human-built sapient AI would probably consume more energy than humans.
11:37:55 Devastator: more pointless as well.
11:38:16 syv: Well, slavery of humans is illegal, but slavery of AIs isn't
11:38:39 ER: What's pointless about building a metalmind that would not also be pointless about making a meatmind?
11:39:01 syv: You're genetically wired to get more happy brain chemicals from the meatmind.
11:39:04 Devastator: A metalmind needs a body whereas a meatmind comes with one.
11:39:29 Devastator: Yeah it does. How do you make a metalmind without having something in which that metalmind resides?
11:40:01 syv: That is an excellent question which I won't be answrring, bye~
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13:15:22 Radio_Controlled: Hello you short interval cortical inhibitions.
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19:37:03 Radio_Controlled: Hello Apemantus.
19:42:13 Devastator:
Syv's updating PS again.
19:42:22 Devastator: someone's dead due to self-irradiation.
19:43:24 Radio_Controlled: Who went nuclear?
19:44:29 Devastator: one of the players in PS.
19:44:46 Radio_Controlled: Is that the name of the player?
19:45:37 Devastator: The character is Asha.
19:46:17 Radio_Controlled: Can't say I know him/her.
19:46:26 Radio_Controlled: So how'd it happen exactly?
19:46:38 Devastator: Duet with Reality and a song called 'radioactive'
19:46:52 Radio_Controlled: Davy Crockett mishap?
19:48:53 Devastator: Bad choice of song all around.
19:50:48 Radio_Controlled: Wait, that wasn't a metaphor?
19:51:11 Devastator: No, that's what happened.
19:53:12 Radio_Controlled: So is she a witch now?
19:53:34 Devastator: No, apparently her body isn't actually dead, and if it was, radiation doesn't hurt your soulgem.
19:53:56 Devastator: If your body dies, you can still be fine but inside your soul gem.
19:59:16 Radio_Controlled: So she's not really dead then?
19:59:39 Devastator: Well, considering we're all lichs, remember..
20:00:35 Devastator: She killed her body.
20:08:25 Radio_Controlled: So not actually dead.
20:08:34 Radio_Controlled: More like 'inconvenienced'.
20:09:27 Devastator: but there is a dead body around.
20:09:49 Radio_Controlled: Just a shell apparently.
20:09:55 Devastator: Thankfully, a body being dead is less of an inconvienence than a body being eradicated.
20:10:31 Radio_Controlled: Gotta recycle.
20:10:33 Devastator: Yeah. Still, my character would be immensely fucked by that. Asha has healing magic and regeneration, though. She can make a new body or fix her own dead one.
20:12:10 Radio_Controlled: Also, nice link.
20:12:15 Radio_Controlled: Feel safer already.
20:13:05 Radio_Controlled: Haven't seen peedubs around, hopefully there's a cabal turn.
20:13:24 Radio_Controlled: Wanna see just how badly you get kidnapped by the bugmen. :p
20:13:40 Devastator: Yeah, I think Cabal is next.
20:14:02 Devastator: (Dunno. The way Cabal works, it might be like a d30 check to convince them to let us go. d10+1 could beat that sometimes.)
20:14:50 Devastator: 21% chance, apparently.
20:23:58 Devastator: It looks like some of the potatoes are growing okay and some didn't take.
20:25:26 Radio_Controlled: It might not be up to a roll either though.
20:26:17 Devastator: I think it will, if pulling out a sword that requires godly intervention was also a d30, but one that allowed two people to combine for it.
20:28:55 Radio_Controlled: Guess the people they already snatched are just shit outta luck then?
20:29:24 Devastator: Nah, I'm calling those guys part of 'us'
20:30:02 Radio_Controlled: Might wanna specify that
20:31:51 Devastator: Nah, I think
PW is more likely to give me a favorable interpretation if I don't.
20:36:28 Radio_Controlled: Well, your call.
20:39:32 Devastator: Yeah. I would like a turn from that, too.
20:39:52 Devastator: Also, with
PW running turns for Tir I want to keep things from getting too wordy.
20:40:37 Radio_Controlled: Turns for Tir?
20:47:16 Devastator: words words words words words.
20:50:00 Radio_Controlled: Good ol' Tir.
20:50:27 Devastator: didn't she say something about getting a job that involves lots of words and nothing else?
21:02:02 Devastator: Guy makes good videos, but, as someone who needed a lot of speech training to reduce his accent, I'm annoyed at his attitude towards mentions about that.
21:07:50 Radio_Controlled: I'm off to bed.
21:08:46 Radio_Controlled: Oh hey I know that channel.
21:10:26 Radio_Controlled: Not seeing where he displays that attitude.
21:12:28 Devastator: some comment where he said he doesn't pay attention to people who say that anymore.
21:12:34 Devastator: I don't think it was in that video.
21:14:02 Radio_Controlled: Anyways, g'night again.
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22:17:04 Devastator: Maybe I should stream Cata for you.
22:19:47 MidJag: What's happening in Cata?
22:19:47 Devastator: I could do the maid thing
ER wants.
22:19:58 Devastator: Not much, but I taunted
ER into taking bad stats last game.
22:21:04 ER: Hmm, you know, it would be nice if "Speed" were an actual stat rather than just a couple traits.
22:21:13 Devastator: right on the main page.
22:21:19 ER: Becaue it's actually a pretty important mechanic.
22:26:58 ER: Your list is a bunch smaller than mine. I also have a bunch of the extra content mods on, that come with the game.
22:28:09 ER: Katia? Where is the "unlucky" trait?
22:29:19 ER: Yeah, Lightweight is important for this character.
22:32:16 ER: Stylish is quite good with your starting fancy but impractical clothes.
22:33:18 ER: Katia cannot smash a locker to bits with her bare hands.
22:35:29 ER: Playing with a non-square font does hurt me a little.
22:35:47 ER: Space is stretched vertically.
22:38:32 ER: Just chug directly from that gallon of milk.
22:39:57 MidJag: Sounds like something Katia would do.
22:46:56 ER: ...Of course Katia inherently knows how to make molotovs.
22:51:47 ER: Here comes the wheel skellies.
23:11:00 ER: Hmm, an "Unlucky" trait might be interesting for real, though.
23:12:38 Devastator: Hits are more likely to damage your gear, you fail slightly more often at skill uses, you deal fewer crits, enemies are slightly more likely to use their special attacks.
23:12:57 Devastator: I'd probably do something like allowing brutes and shockers to use their specials more often.
23:13:02 ER: Would make a dissector spawn in someone's house and make you automatically not detect it, or cause all of your food to suddenly disappear, or make you run into a pod of migos in the middle of nowhere. :P
23:14:01 ER: Portal appears right on top of you and puts you somewhere nasty.
23:22:43 Devastator: Oh, Hai Jabberwock!
23:49:27 ER: Lovecraft monster I believe.
23:49:39 MidJag: are they the mushroom things?
23:53:53 Devastator: I think those are fungus monsters.
23:54:54 Devastator: looking it up, the answer is 'yes, they're mushroom things', but they mostly seem like bizarre human-sized monsters of various types.
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