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23-04-2024 02:46:26 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
23-04-2024 02:46:26 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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23-04-2024 02:58:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: wah
23-04-2024 02:59:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: bleh
23-04-2024 02:59:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: sick
23-04-2024 02:59:12 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: weh
23-04-2024 02:59:18 < * Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw hugs syv
23-04-2024 02:59:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Hello Egan
23-04-2024 03:00:03 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: hello
23-04-2024 03:00:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: I worked on FMD, techncially
23-04-2024 03:00:32 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: hours after the task appeared, but I did thing
23-04-2024 03:02:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Hey, that's great
23-04-2024 03:02:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: What did you work on precisely?
23-04-2024 03:03:25 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: added more spacing to main document, made a todo document
23-04-2024 03:03:32 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: with very loose ideas
23-04-2024 03:03:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Excellent start
23-04-2024 03:04:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I really really suck at making outlines before the actual thing
23-04-2024 03:04:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Which usually results in me remaking the thing several times before I have something I want
23-04-2024 03:05:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: AoTTG 2's beta release in about a week
23-04-2024 03:06:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Anf there's several minor issues I'm essentially responsible for fixing, which should take a couple hours to fix at worst.
23-04-2024 03:06:19 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: would 12 stats be too much? 6 mundane and 6 magical
23-04-2024 03:06:24 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: right now is 5 and 5
23-04-2024 03:06:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Yes, probably.
23-04-2024 03:06:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: What are the stats and why are the stats?
23-04-2024 03:06:45 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: but I kinda wanted to add a reflexes stat and a magic stat based around stability
23-04-2024 03:07:26 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: strength, aim, stealth, awareness, speech
23-04-2024 03:07:48 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: probably self explainatory
23-04-2024 03:08:19 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: vitality is self buffs and speed, giving the flight power, which is an important defensive aspect
23-04-2024 03:08:43 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: pathos is offensive power and generally powerful but unreliable effects
23-04-2024 03:08:51 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: bravery is bravery
23-04-2024 03:09:10 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: compassion is probably healing and mental stuff and support?
23-04-2024 03:09:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Merge stealth and awareness
23-04-2024 03:09:21 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: hope is general magical girl vibes
23-04-2024 03:09:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Both are support stats and aren't really comparable in value to str/aim in a combat game.
23-04-2024 03:11:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I wouldn't add reflexes, but a stability magic stat could be fine, depending on how you do magic.
23-04-2024 03:11:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: If magic skills are just "if you invest in this skill you can get this kinda magic" rather than "you have all these kinds of magic, choose which you're good at and which you're bad at", then you don't need to worry about having lots of magic stats,
23-04-2024 03:16:03 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: eh, hope makes sense anyways
23-04-2024 03:16:32 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: for some reason I didn't want it to double duty for mana and stress, but that's probably managable
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23-04-2024 03:23:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: wah
23-04-2024 03:23:54 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: weh
23-04-2024 03:24:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: need to get sleeps
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23-04-2024 03:28:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: damn
23-04-2024 03:28:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Sleep is needed, yes.
23-04-2024 03:36:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: heyo.
23-04-2024 03:36:49 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: heya!
23-04-2024 03:36:51 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: *hugs*
23-04-2024 03:38:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: heyo.
23-04-2024 03:39:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: just got back from a nap.
23-04-2024 03:39:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: heya Egan, syv.
23-04-2024 03:40:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: heya Egan, dev.
23-04-2024 03:40:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I had a nap yesterday
23-04-2024 03:40:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: It was nice
23-04-2024 03:42:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: Canucks won game one.
23-04-2024 03:42:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: which was nice.
23-04-2024 03:42:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: game two is tomorrow.
23-04-2024 03:42:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: congrats
23-04-2024 03:42:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: 15 more wins to get the cup.
23-04-2024 03:42:43 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: pucksball!!
23-04-2024 03:43:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: murder
23-04-2024 03:43:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: hockey, but instead of sticks everyone gets chainsaws
23-04-2024 03:43:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: yay/nay
23-04-2024 03:43:55 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: eh
23-04-2024 03:44:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: hockey, but instead of skates everyone gets chainsaws
23-04-2024 03:44:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: surely it's sportspuck.
23-04-2024 03:45:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: hockey, but instead of a puck everyone goes after a chainsaw
23-04-2024 03:46:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: hockey, but instead of ice there are just chainsaws.
23-04-2024 03:46:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: oooo
23-04-2024 03:47:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: Chainsaws, but instead of chainsaws there are chainsaws.
23-04-2024 03:47:25 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: there is that FPS where your leg is a chainsaw
23-04-2024 03:47:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: That sounds like something from Broforce.
23-04-2024 03:49:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: why just one leg
23-04-2024 03:49:44 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: so that you can get an upgrade to make it both legs
23-04-2024 03:49:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: is the character one-legged with a pogo chainsaw?
23-04-2024 03:49:51 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: and both arms
23-04-2024 03:49:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: awww
23-04-2024 03:50:12 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: no, it's a cyberleg which opens up to reveal the chainsaw
23-04-2024 03:50:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: disappointing
23-04-2024 03:50:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: invisible chainsaw.
23-04-2024 03:50:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: huh.
23-04-2024 03:51:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: would the people in PS be unable to recognize a magic chainsaw?
23-04-2024 03:51:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: It would just be a chainsaw?
23-04-2024 03:51:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Chainsaws aren't magic
23-04-2024 03:51:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: mmm, so they'd be able to recognize a chainsaw because there's nothing inherantly magical about chainsaws.
23-04-2024 03:51:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: yes
23-04-2024 03:52:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: unfortunately, I suspect they'd recognize a magical chainsaw analog as.. a mundane chainsaw.
23-04-2024 03:52:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Now they may not grok abnormal traits of that chainsaw
23-04-2024 03:52:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: If it's made of skeletons and has a ten-meter blood blade then there would be some fuckery going on
23-04-2024 03:52:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: just wondering about the possibility of a PS chainsaw murderer cutting people up with imperceptible chainsaws.
23-04-2024 03:53:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: But if you're holding a magic chainsaw they'll see you as just holding a normal one.
23-04-2024 03:53:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Broadly you're not going to get "imperceptible" without the cre power
23-04-2024 03:53:34 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: BART YOU WANNA SEE MY NEW CHAINSAW BEFORE YOU GO TO BED?????
23-04-2024 03:53:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Or maybe some weird love/pure stuff
23-04-2024 03:53:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: You'll just get inaccurate perceptions
23-04-2024 03:54:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: hmm.
23-04-2024 03:55:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: yeah, that makes too much sense.
23-04-2024 03:55:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: only labrynths and such are imperceptible.
23-04-2024 03:56:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: I'm pretty sure mundanes can't see labs.
23-04-2024 03:57:33 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: now I want to enchant a kitchen knife to be imperceptable to normals
23-04-2024 03:57:45 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: but PS doesn't really have enchantments, bah
23-04-2024 03:58:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Actually I'm going to add them, kinda
23-04-2024 03:58:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Love gets them
23-04-2024 03:58:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: oh, nifty.
23-04-2024 03:59:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I talked about it here :P
23-04-2024 03:59:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: yeah, love does need some love.
23-04-2024 03:59:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Love has always needed Love
23-04-2024 03:59:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: Eh, we talked about them, but it isn't 'real' until it's written down and on the forums.
23-04-2024 03:59:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: It's always been the worst class
23-04-2024 03:59:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: `1
23-04-2024 04:00:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I've also wanted to give it enchants for years, really.
23-04-2024 04:00:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: Could also be vague about it.
23-04-2024 04:00:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: There's the one scene where Mami enchants Sayaka's bat, and Sayaka uses it to summon a shield.
23-04-2024 04:00:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: put soul in item, item is 'improved', but it's not controllable, not so much.
23-04-2024 04:01:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Yeah I've wondered how to handle enchants, and that was one of the earlier ideas for how.  It's problematic, which id why I never went with it.
23-04-2024 04:01:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Crystallize is power cloning.
23-04-2024 04:01:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: That's it
23-04-2024 04:02:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: You don't enchant your sword to be a better sword, you enchant your sword to cast Close Combat III or something
23-04-2024 04:02:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: I don't know.  I think I'd be fine with it -also- doing basic item optimization.  Like it fixes things or it just improves it moderately in a simple, easily understood way.  All mundane stuff at that point.
23-04-2024 04:02:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: like you put a bit of soul in a knife and bam, you could have a sword.
23-04-2024 04:02:45 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: it should clone the power with "you" being the item, so a berserker bat does more damage the more broken it is ;D
23-04-2024 04:02:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: That's another fun idea.
23-04-2024 04:03:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Sure, I'd let you mess with items somewhat, but it wouldn't really be the use of the power.
23-04-2024 04:03:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I could see something like that yeah, Egan.
23-04-2024 04:03:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Enchant an item with TM, TM can be used on the item rather than the original totem.
23-04-2024 04:03:53 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: give a frag grenade teleport and regen >:D
23-04-2024 04:04:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: That's basically the same as giving an item Outburst.  Except more expensive, I think.
23-04-2024 04:04:44 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: no, clearly the enchanted item gets a totem of its own which it can manipulate
23-04-2024 04:04:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: Yeah, that sounds like fun, although the price for each regen would be too much.
23-04-2024 04:04:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: effigy would be cheaper.
23-04-2024 04:05:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I wouldn't want to make it consistently target the item rather than the user, because then you can't really crystallize Semblance and such powers
23-04-2024 04:05:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Though perhaps that would work as a way to keep people from abusing Semblance's power.  :P
23-04-2024 04:07:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: can't semblance explosives?
23-04-2024 04:08:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: IIRC Semblance 3 can make explosives, sure.
23-04-2024 04:08:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Probably expensive though
23-04-2024 04:08:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: That's really something you'd want mimicry for
23-04-2024 04:08:42 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: I give this 8-ball telepathy so that it can scream obnoxiously at anyone awakened within range
23-04-2024 04:08:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: You can't give items passives
23-04-2024 04:09:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Or if you can I'd need to standardize an activation cost
23-04-2024 04:09:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Hrm.
23-04-2024 04:10:37 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: why not? surely we want to be able to give the baseball bat gluttony which it's physically unable to fulfil
23-04-2024 04:10:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: ...Maybe not.
23-04-2024 04:11:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I don't have the final version of Crystallize decided, but it'll probably give the Love -1 soul stage cap for each power cloned.
23-04-2024 04:11:48 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: mm, don't give the frag grenade regeneration, give it painless 3
23-04-2024 04:12:10 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: so that being completely destroyed won't impede its function and it can thus simply explode every gametic
23-04-2024 04:12:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Giving passives to others (outside determination) at the cost of less soul cap doesn't seem too problematic.
23-04-2024 04:12:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: "I want to eat baseballs"
23-04-2024 04:13:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: You can dispel items to return the soul stage though, so this CAN be cheesed somewhat... but it has a casting cost on top of the soul stage investment.
23-04-2024 04:14:46 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: simply zerosum yourself by wearing a brooch of determination
23-04-2024 04:15:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I think I'd just let Det have the special case of costing extra soul stages to compensate.
23-04-2024 04:16:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Give your partner +3 stages and yourself -3 stages.  Actually a kinda meta idea, memento + empathy lets you share soul, and grief seeds are full restores.
23-04-2024 04:16:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: It's not any more OP than just giving memento to an innocent anyways
23-04-2024 04:17:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: (This kinda thing is also why I've always considered empathy VERY strong, btw; it can pretty easily be used to cheese grief seeds)
23-04-2024 04:17:58 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: give determination to the ward
23-04-2024 04:18:46 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: it's strong if you have reason, motivation, and the knowledge to cheese grief seeds
23-04-2024 04:18:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: wow you figured out the worst possible use of this power
23-04-2024 04:19:01 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: so, MAYBE dev
23-04-2024 04:19:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: triple its normal penalty AND negate all benefits
23-04-2024 04:19:43 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: but shell be really determined
23-04-2024 04:20:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Honestly wards already are
23-04-2024 04:21:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: "Go into this magical maze full of hyper-lethal monsters without any powers or weapons!"
23-04-2024 04:21:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: "Ok!"
23-04-2024 04:21:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: But yes uh
23-04-2024 04:21:38 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: eh, she just needs an american 180
23-04-2024 04:21:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Crystallize items cast from the Love's soul pool, not the user.
23-04-2024 04:22:12 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: cool, then just kill the love
23-04-2024 04:22:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: So you can crystallize the creative's Semblance power, hand it to the team's brave, and then instantly soul-out when she tries to use it to turn into a mech.
23-04-2024 04:22:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: That feels super on-brand for Love
23-04-2024 04:22:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: And I like how it gives a very natural balancing mechanic to a really strong power.
23-04-2024 04:23:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: "Okay, yes, giving you this item would be a big buff for you, but I'm *ALSO* putting a noose around my neck and trusting you not to yank it"
23-04-2024 04:26:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: It's also inefficient.
23-04-2024 04:26:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: stacking CC and 'turn into mech' is somewhat redundant!
23-04-2024 04:26:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Yes
23-04-2024 04:26:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: the buffs aren't multipliers, they're additive.
23-04-2024 04:26:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Expertise gained from turning into a wolf
23-04-2024 04:27:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Really the innocent is the one that wants to be a mech
23-04-2024 04:27:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: indeed.
23-04-2024 04:27:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: to be fair, Alida doesn't know that in-character.
23-04-2024 04:28:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: it does combo properly with other powers, like the one that mirrors wounds.
23-04-2024 04:28:28 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: PS2 when
23-04-2024 04:28:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: After SMAK
23-04-2024 04:28:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: SMAK after AoTTG 2
23-04-2024 04:28:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: AoTTG 2 in ~eight days
23-04-2024 04:28:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: yay!
23-04-2024 04:29:21 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: gods, is SMAK actually gonna happen?
23-04-2024 04:29:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: it might, actually.
23-04-2024 04:29:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: if AoTTG happens.
23-04-2024 04:29:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: It already happened.
23-04-2024 04:29:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: But why wouldn't it?
23-04-2024 04:29:37 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: I barely remember what my character was
23-04-2024 04:29:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: there hasn't been as much woof as expected?  ;-p
23-04-2024 04:30:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I might not be able to resume this mission, given the very long hiatus.
23-04-2024 04:33:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: A love could do work turning into a combining mecha.
23-04-2024 04:34:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: 'you're touching everyone'
23-04-2024 04:36:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Oh yeah
23-04-2024 04:36:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Halo MCC is on sale for 75% off right now.
23-04-2024 04:36:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Costs 9.99 for the first six mainline Halo games
23-04-2024 04:36:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: With multiplayer included.
23-04-2024 04:37:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Would either of you be interested in that?  I got it for myself because Halo was my childhood, and I wanted to play co-op with Saki.
23-04-2024 04:38:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Also "all the good Halo games, for the price of Lethal Company" is kinda an insanely good deal.
23-04-2024 04:39:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: All the good Halo games + Halo 4, I mean
23-04-2024 04:39:14 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: oh yeah, I'd like to play the first four at some point
23-04-2024 04:39:31 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: that is, 1-3 and reach
23-04-2024 04:39:49 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: oh, and odst
23-04-2024 04:39:55 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: I'd like to play all of them :p
23-04-2024 04:40:26 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: but apparently 4 and 5 are mediochre/terrible
23-04-2024 04:40:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: There, gifted
23-04-2024 04:40:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: 4 was pretty pooe
23-04-2024 04:40:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I never tried 5
23-04-2024 04:40:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I heard it wasn't better.
23-04-2024 04:41:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Reach is the best, with 1/2/3 all being decent and sorta tradeoffs IMO?
23-04-2024 04:42:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: They get increasingly more polished but with increasingly less personality, I guess.
23-04-2024 04:42:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: I'm too old for Halo to be my childhood but I did play a bunch of Halo 1 multiplayer.
23-04-2024 04:42:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: And ODST is a bit more of its own feel that just sorta stands apart.
23-04-2024 04:42:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: and I wouldn't mind introducing you to the glory that was the pistol.
23-04-2024 04:42:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I know Dev
23-04-2024 04:42:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I played so much H1 with my dad as a kid
23-04-2024 04:43:09 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: I played a bit of halo 1 multiplayer on school PCs
23-04-2024 04:43:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I vaugely remember watching him play when I was about seven or so, peeking over his shoulder as he did the flood levels.
23-04-2024 04:43:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: because we had that for some reason
23-04-2024 04:44:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: ...possibly because the computer science teacher was nostalgic for it, too
23-04-2024 04:45:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Well I bought it for everyone now
23-04-2024 04:46:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: MJ too because I know he adored Reach
23-04-2024 04:46:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: And if we end up playing together I don't want to say he has to pay 40 to join us
23-04-2024 04:46:57 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: nod nod
23-04-2024 04:47:06 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: which ones have co-op? all of them?
23-04-2024 04:47:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: All of them
23-04-2024 04:47:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: But I think H1 and H2 only have 2 player campaign co-op
23-04-2024 04:48:32 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: also, there's cursed halo
23-04-2024 04:49:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Yup!
23-04-2024 04:49:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I think it's even on the workshop
23-04-2024 04:49:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: So it should be trivial to install
23-04-2024 04:52:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I wonder why they included Halo 4
23-04-2024 04:52:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: The obvious reason they're offering the bundle is so people go "Oh, I want to play the rest of the series now!  These games are great!"
23-04-2024 04:53:02 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: I guess if they left it out they'd be admitting that it's dog shit and bungee were what made halo good?
23-04-2024 04:53:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: But H4 is the exact place where you realize "ah, so Halo's not good anymore"
23-04-2024 04:53:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Nah they leave it out so that people expect H4/5/6 to also be good and buy then all after finishing the bundle.
23-04-2024 04:54:43 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: nah, I feel like it's kinda a company ego thing
23-04-2024 04:55:04 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: they put it in to affirm to themselves that it's a worthy part of the series
23-04-2024 04:55:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Perhaps
23-04-2024 04:57:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: I'm also exaggerating the pistol.. but I really did like halo 1 multi more than the follow-up games.
23-04-2024 04:58:30 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: i like shotgun
23-04-2024 04:58:43 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: even if it doesn't actually do anything past two feet
23-04-2024 04:59:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: ..for me it was halo 2 that made me realize 'halo's not good anymore'.  Like the complete opposite of everyone else who is alive.
23-04-2024 05:00:18 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: could be
23-04-2024 05:00:26 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: I wanna play ODST though
23-04-2024 05:00:35 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: because I've heard it has a good soundtrack
23-04-2024 05:00:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I was too young to judge H2 well
23-04-2024 05:01:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: H3 was a little bit of a disappointment, but H1 is a bit jank.
23-04-2024 05:01:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Reach was great though
23-04-2024 05:01:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: ODST I'm unsure, I didn't like it as much when young because it was very confusing
23-04-2024 05:01:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: I suspect 'jank' means 'It had much less auto-aim.'  ;-p
23-04-2024 05:02:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: and there are jokes about the pistol, but weapons as a whole were more brutal.
23-04-2024 05:03:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Quite possibly, I played it exclusively on console.
23-04-2024 05:03:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: It's also just got the xbox-era colliders and models and everything.
23-04-2024 05:04:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I'm usually not a graphics snob but it *definitely* was a change going from Reach and such
23-04-2024 05:04:41 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: I like how halo 1 looks ^-^
23-04-2024 05:05:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I think this bundle has the remaster, but IIRC there's a toggle to go between remaster and OG appearance
23-04-2024 05:07:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: Didn't they mess with the gameplay a bit in the remaster, too?
23-04-2024 05:08:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: eh, it'll be fine.
23-04-2024 05:22:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I don't know really.
23-04-2024 05:23:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: I'd expect they kept it minimal, though I could see it HAVING to be changed some because they'd have to update the engine to run on modern computers well.
23-04-2024 05:23:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: So it goes.
23-04-2024 05:24:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: I'm sure they did.
23-04-2024 05:24:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: It'll be okay.
23-04-2024 05:26:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Well.
23-04-2024 05:26:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Egan, Devastator.  Do you want to play anything with Saki and I, right now?
23-04-2024 05:26:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Or pass?
23-04-2024 05:26:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: yeah, sure.
23-04-2024 05:28:00 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: no thanks, I'm pretending that chatting online is a substitute for sleep
23-04-2024 05:28:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqu:xnz:gpnp:zslp:izkw: so I should stop that
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23-04-2024 05:29:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: Preference for game?
23-04-2024 05:30:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: DRG, LC?
23-04-2024 05:32:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: LC.
23-04-2024 05:32:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: lemme finish this battle first, though.
23-04-2024 05:37:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: kk.
23-04-2024 05:37:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vroo:ljhl:vugq:wshk:lszs: finished.
23-04-2024 05:45:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@184.88.nvj.pui: okay
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23-04-2024 22:51:58 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
23-04-2024 22:51:58 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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