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01-04-2024 02:47:08 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
01-04-2024 02:47:08 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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01-04-2024 04:13:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Hello Egan
01-04-2024 04:17:41 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: hellooo
01-04-2024 04:17:52 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: I downloaded mekhq
01-04-2024 04:18:25 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: think a tutorial will be needed if I want to actually play it as one would a game, but it's interesting to poke around
01-04-2024 04:18:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Is that what Dev was poking around with?
01-04-2024 04:18:58 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: yup
01-04-2024 04:19:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: We talked about it in steamchat yesterdau
01-04-2024 04:19:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Apparently you can have campaigns against AI, maybe even co-op campaigns
01-04-2024 04:20:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Might also allow asynch play so we could have an ongoing game where we don't all need to be on at the same time
01-04-2024 04:20:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I'm a little excited for it
01-04-2024 04:21:06 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: just be warned that there are a million options for everything
01-04-2024 04:23:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I am not surprised at all
01-04-2024 04:24:38 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: also while megamek, the tactical layer has online multiplayer, I don't think that mekhq, the campaign program does?
01-04-2024 04:25:25 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: they're separete exes and I think when you get to a battle in mekhq it just launches the other one
01-04-2024 04:25:42 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: or you could set it up as a tabletop battle or something :3
01-04-2024 04:29:44 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: the starter guide for Against the Bot is a 48 page pdf, lol
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01-04-2024 07:42:39 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: so there are a few simulated ticks when you generate a company, for your generated personnel to gain relationships and such
01-04-2024 07:43:34 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: and so my command admin had a baby. the baby joins my company, as a dependant, of course
01-04-2024 07:44:15 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: and despite being 0 days old, she has +6 small arms skill and an ability which makes her better at indirect fire
01-04-2024 07:45:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: ...hahaha
01-04-2024 07:45:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Amazing
01-04-2024 07:46:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Okay I really want to do a co-op campaign now
01-04-2024 07:46:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I could totally write stuff for it
01-04-2024 07:47:28 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: I've gone through all the setup phase I think
01-04-2024 07:48:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Hmm
01-04-2024 07:48:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: ...Does this game allow you to make custom mechs?
01-04-2024 07:48:32 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: the thing to keep in mind is that after you've gone through all the campaign options and actually started, it starts you off just with zero money or employees or materiel
01-04-2024 07:48:48 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: and you have to find the random dropdown menu to actually generate a starting company
01-04-2024 07:48:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: It's stupid, but suddenly I had the thought of importing Power and Pulse into it
01-04-2024 07:49:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: And making custom "elementals" that are just mages
01-04-2024 07:49:37 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: considering how stupid complex this thing is, I wouldn't *recommend* trying to mod in things that aren't already part of battletech
01-04-2024 07:50:40 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: there's a program to make your own units but I'm not sure how much it'll make you follow the actual rules for making your own units
01-04-2024 07:50:46 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: or if you can just make whatever
01-04-2024 07:54:28 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: well I've opened the unit builder and I can apparently just field a platoon of footsoldiers with zweihanders if I feel like it
01-04-2024 07:59:06 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: ooh, just one guy with a sword
01-04-2024 08:01:34 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: one guy with jump jets and a vibro-katana
01-04-2024 08:08:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: We successfully connected to multiplayer
01-04-2024 08:09:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I fieled a bunch of power armor and jumpjet infantry against Dev's MAD CAT
01-04-2024 08:09:26 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: nice
01-04-2024 08:09:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Half the unit cost
01-04-2024 08:09:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I knocked his madcat on its ass
01-04-2024 08:10:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Dev's pilot is a terrible shot
01-04-2024 08:10:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Has four MGs but largely missed my infantry
01-04-2024 08:11:51 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: huh, what's their gunnery skill?
01-04-2024 08:13:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: He's running away!
01-04-2024 08:13:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: (I have no idea how to check skill)
01-04-2024 08:13:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Ohhh
01-04-2024 08:16:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: LT Rege, jumpjet infantry, has 6 antimech and 3 gunnery
01-04-2024 08:16:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Has used neither so far
01-04-2024 08:18:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: SGT Kuai, battle armor, is AM6 Gunnery 4
01-04-2024 08:18:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: SGT Saxena, battle armor, is AM6 Gunnery 3
01-04-2024 08:18:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Kuai knocked over the MADCAT I think
01-04-2024 08:19:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Oh he's coming in for the stompies
01-04-2024 08:21:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Knocked him over again
01-04-2024 08:21:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: He killed two of my armored units
01-04-2024 08:21:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: SRMs are a hell of a drug
01-04-2024 08:21:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: His mech shut down from overheat!
01-04-2024 08:21:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Ahahaha
01-04-2024 08:29:01 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: should I check the option to give ejected mechwarriors a sidearm?
01-04-2024 08:29:11 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: I feel like it wouldn't really matter but it seems fun
01-04-2024 08:32:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: YES
01-04-2024 08:32:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Dev's mechwarrior didn't eject
01-04-2024 08:32:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I can't see clearly in the salvage file whether he's dead or not
01-04-2024 08:33:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Looks like Kuai lost one trooper (out of six), otherwise took no damage... and emptied all three shots of SRM ammo.
01-04-2024 08:33:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Saxena fared worse
01-04-2024 08:33:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Lost troopers 3 and 5.
01-04-2024 08:33:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: no ejection = dead.  Engine explosion.
01-04-2024 08:33:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: While 2 and 6 took heavy armor damage, going down to 1 and 2 armor.
01-04-2024 08:33:55 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: "if checked, mechs and protomeks will be able to do a grappling attack"
01-04-2024 08:34:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: They also depleted all SRM ammo
01-04-2024 08:34:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: higher numbers for skills are bad, egan.
01-04-2024 08:34:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: +6 is minimum.
01-04-2024 08:34:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: They're "Nephilim Assault Battle Armor" btw
01-04-2024 08:34:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: and yeah, custom mecs are in the MechLab.
01-04-2024 08:34:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: and yeah, it makes you follow the rules.
01-04-2024 08:35:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: "How many zweihander infantry does it take to kill one madcat?"
01-04-2024 08:35:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: note the mech pilot was a really good shot.  I think he was 2+ or 3+ which is just fine.
01-04-2024 08:35:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I imagine the answer is "infinity" because the madcat can calmly walk away forever.
01-04-2024 08:35:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: He had Gunnery 2, Piloting 5
01-04-2024 08:35:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Good shot but shit pilot.
01-04-2024 08:36:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: ahh, that explains the shutdown.  2+ is really good.  Still missed when it mattered.
01-04-2024 08:36:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I think it says he took 5 hits
01-04-2024 08:36:20 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: oh, I think the skills marked like 5+ lower is better and the ones marked like +1 higher is better
01-04-2024 08:36:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: 5 hits is the max, syv.  He was wounded for two points.
01-04-2024 08:36:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: Yeah, that's right.
01-04-2024 08:36:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: What are hits in this context then>
01-04-2024 08:36:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: pilots have hitpoints.
01-04-2024 08:36:50 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: my mercenary leutenant has a 4+ piloting and a +1 tactics
01-04-2024 08:36:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: they have to be doctored up to recover over time.
01-04-2024 08:37:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: yeah, the +1s seem to be bonuses.  They give people plus one.
01-04-2024 08:37:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Well hopefully I can get him a good doctor
01-04-2024 08:37:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: He's gonna need a lot of superglue to put all the bits back togethrr
01-04-2024 08:37:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: should be dead.  No eject and engine explosion is dead.  Dead show as 5+ and usually KIA.
01-04-2024 08:38:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Doesn't say KIA or WIA or anything in the file.
01-04-2024 08:38:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: But yes, hits="5"
01-04-2024 08:38:31 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: I think that means he CAN get lucky and be fine
01-04-2024 08:38:41 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: but probably you'll be paying your medics a lot
01-04-2024 08:38:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: given I named the team 'Tagon's Toughs', he's in a jar.
01-04-2024 08:39:06 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: ...depending on your campaign settings >.>
01-04-2024 08:39:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Left torso: destroyed.  Left arm: blown off.
01-04-2024 08:40:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Interestingly all the tech on it is listed as isMissing="True" isDestroyed="false"
01-04-2024 08:40:49 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: "Using AM most pilots with 1 hit will be back in the field the next day with  no repercussions, while a  pilot with 5 hits will
01-04-2024 08:40:50 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: vary from the very lucky that end up with no/almost no time out (assuming few or no critical hits and all of the hits landing
01-04-2024 08:40:50 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: on different locations) to losing a limb or suffering other long term or permanent injury."
01-04-2024 08:40:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: That's two PPCs I didn't loot I guess.
01-04-2024 08:41:06 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: from advanced medical overview.txt
01-04-2024 08:41:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: The head armor us listed at 5 with no other damage
01-04-2024 08:41:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I think he's alive
01-04-2024 08:41:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: nah, I think it just stopped simulating at the engine explosion.
01-04-2024 08:41:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: that was it when the engine went up.
01-04-2024 08:41:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: didn't bother with scrap and such since it wasn't a campaign or anything.
01-04-2024 08:42:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: did leave a crater, though.
01-04-2024 08:42:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: which means 'engine blew up.'
01-04-2024 08:42:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I'm pretty sure the engine explosion is why the left torso is destroyed.
01-04-2024 08:42:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: nah.
01-04-2024 08:42:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: the LT was destroyed because you blew up the ammo in it.
01-04-2024 08:42:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Center torso has a lot of damage
01-04-2024 08:42:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: CT took a bunch of hits to IS and a series of bad criticals.
01-04-2024 08:43:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Well why would salvage not show the mech as atomized?
01-04-2024 08:43:01 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:kzx:zupn:tlm:wmqp:gmsh: well, I'd play a skirmish
01-04-2024 08:43:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Uhhh
01-04-2024 08:43:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: Can we do that using your server, Dev, or?
01-04-2024 08:43:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: Yeah, I can put it up.
01-04-2024 08:43:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: just a sec.
01-04-2024 08:44:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: 108.180.193.47
01-04-2024 08:44:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: default port.
01-04-2024 08:44:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: do it in megamek, not the campaign program.
01-04-2024 08:46:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: I get a Java exception trying to join this time
01-04-2024 08:46:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: And the game window says "waiting on the server..."
01-04-2024 08:48:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: yeah, it said you joined and disconnected.
01-04-2024 08:49:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:tsqs:okln:kvij:xzxn:mjqt: rehosted.
01-04-2024 08:50:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.prt.sx: There we go
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