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19-03-2024 01:00:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: phew.
19-03-2024 01:01:51 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:jij:lkon:xyln:hgk:zmmw: hellooooo
19-03-2024 01:02:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: hello egan.
19-03-2024 01:02:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: still screwed in Valheim.
19-03-2024 01:02:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: have to get you and syv to help out.  I'll pay.
19-03-2024 01:03:52 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:jij:lkon:xyln:hgk:zmmw: it's in black forest, right?
19-03-2024 01:04:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: It's across a big water gap and in a big river through black forest.
19-03-2024 01:04:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: there's a -little- swamp right there, but the issue was me jumping out of the ship, getting poisoned, and dying outside of the boat.
19-03-2024 01:06:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: There's a ton of stuff on the mainland, though.
19-03-2024 01:07:15 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:jij:lkon:xyln:hgk:zmmw: seems sketchy for my character with level 1 leather armor, level 2 flint spear, and level 3 plank shield
19-03-2024 01:10:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: there's a big pile of stuff in my mainland base.
19-03-2024 01:10:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: including resources.
19-03-2024 01:10:11 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:jij:lkon:xyln:hgk:zmmw: Can't really fight swamp mobs at all, I think
19-03-2024 01:10:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: and stuff.
19-03-2024 01:10:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: Mostly I just want some real food.
19-03-2024 01:10:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: then I can make some attempts on sneaking in.
19-03-2024 01:41:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: mmm.
19-03-2024 01:41:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: also, I have a portal where I'm stuck, but no portal on the mainland.
19-03-2024 01:41:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: I do have the stuff on the mainland to make a portal.
19-03-2024 01:41:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: that would also get me out of the jam.
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19-03-2024 03:38:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: heyo.
19-03-2024 03:38:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: MJ's here.
19-03-2024 03:38:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: you want to come help too?
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19-03-2024 03:52:26 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
19-03-2024 03:52:26 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
19-03-2024 04:15:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: okay, well, thanks.
19-03-2024 04:18:19 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: yeah, I would have built a portal but there was no fine wood, and I would have chopped some fine wood but there's wasn't enough metal for an axe
19-03-2024 04:18:33 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: so I tried to sail directly through the ocean but got eaten
19-03-2024 04:24:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: ahh.
19-03-2024 04:24:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: I meant to suggest 'use hammer to unbuild some of the stuff I had there which had fine wood.
19-03-2024 04:25:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: I did find your corpse.
19-03-2024 04:26:02 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: I have no idea which things have fine wood
19-03-2024 04:26:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: the dragon head and the fancy chairs.
19-03-2024 04:27:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: and the table upstairs.
19-03-2024 04:39:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: anyway, thank you.
19-03-2024 04:39:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: ahh, there was no dragon head at main, that was at the base way to the south.
19-03-2024 04:39:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: Thank you, though, I'm back.
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19-03-2024 06:30:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: 'lo
19-03-2024 06:32:46 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: 'lo
19-03-2024 06:34:26 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: heya
19-03-2024 06:37:07 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: hi
19-03-2024 06:37:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: hi.
19-03-2024 06:37:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: apparently you can transport metals between worlds fine.
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19-03-2024 06:42:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: heyo sy.
19-03-2024 06:42:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: any kitten tonight?
19-03-2024 06:43:12 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Kitten after Saki submits an action
19-03-2024 06:43:59 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Yesterday I wrote part of an OP for a SWAT PMC game set in Nyafor because I didn't really feel like anything
19-03-2024 06:44:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: hah.
19-03-2024 06:45:00 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Damn I write crapsack worlds
19-03-2024 06:45:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: eh.
19-03-2024 06:45:28 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Especially the catgirls are just really damn hard to not make utterly hateable given the lore we already have
19-03-2024 06:45:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: long way to reach the urobutcher.
19-03-2024 06:46:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: Alida is isekaied into nyafor land.  There are no dogs.  All are against her.
19-03-2024 06:46:35 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: (sy) Hah!
19-03-2024 06:46:35 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: (sy) Fuck it you have good odds of me doing that if you genuinely ask for it
19-03-2024 06:46:35 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: (sy) I have mechanics for Alida RIGHT THERE.
19-03-2024 06:46:59 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: well, having bad baddies is pretty normal for a story
19-03-2024 06:47:57 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: like star wars isn't necesarilly seen as a crapsack world just because it's really bad when the fascists backed by evil sorcerers are winning
19-03-2024 06:48:04 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Yes but the intention with the gun system, prior to it being kemonomimi, was to have four *mostly* neutralish factions you could reasonably choose
19-03-2024 06:48:18 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Nyafor is kinda
19-03-2024 06:48:54 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Catgirls?  Explicitly racist fascist orcs.  Just short adorable ones.
19-03-2024 06:49:12 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Spiders?  Drow or something.
19-03-2024 06:49:57 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Wolfgirls?  Evil capitalists because I didn't want to just make a genuinely AMERICA FUCK YEAH setting (too many of those)
19-03-2024 06:49:57 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: woofs are america, and america are always the good guys :3
19-03-2024 06:50:19 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: anf foxes are the IRA, so also good guys /s
19-03-2024 06:50:23 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I do seem to have accidentally made the foxes mostly not evil
19-03-2024 06:50:53 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: this is merely the natural result of making an anarchist insurgent faction
19-03-2024 06:51:02 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Pretty much
19-03-2024 06:51:13 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: "Oh I'll try and give all the dominant powers reasons to dislike them"
19-03-2024 06:51:25 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: "...oh that makes the insurgents really sympathetic actually"
19-03-2024 06:51:52 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: the same four gun factions in FMD are basically all bastards due to being foreign military forces in YOUR county, and you're a civilian trying to survive
19-03-2024 06:52:45 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: :plead:
19-03-2024 06:52:48 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: run FMD pls
19-03-2024 06:53:22 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: maybe acirema has better reason to be there than sovereign in an international politics discussion, but you're kids who don't care about that and soldiers are terrible
19-03-2024 06:53:37 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: yeaaah, FMD is what I should run
19-03-2024 06:57:21 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Is Grimalia or Sovereign worse
19-03-2024 06:57:27 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Nyafor sov
19-03-2024 06:57:45 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Funny how that one faction has kept the same name through all iterations of this
19-03-2024 06:58:22 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: Sovereign has more variation
19-03-2024 06:58:49 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Hmm
19-03-2024 06:58:53 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Well yes
19-03-2024 06:59:09 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: are the deep spiders not part of sovereign?
19-03-2024 06:59:31 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I prefer to think that different areas of Grimalia do vary a lot based on the local leadership
19-03-2024 07:00:00 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I'd say the deep spiders are part of Sov, yeah
19-03-2024 07:00:39 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Though the greater structure of Sov is in general questionable.  Spiders themselves would probably have a lot of factionalism subdividing themselves.
19-03-2024 07:00:44 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: they both allow for bad stuff, but sovereign leans more authoritarian and grimalia more libertarian
19-03-2024 07:00:50 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Yes
19-03-2024 07:01:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: and sovereign appears bad to cats because it's evil in a foreign, scary way, and vice versa
19-03-2024 07:01:38 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Yes.
19-03-2024 07:02:07 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Cats learn anything about the societal role of drones and think "Yup you guys need to be exterminated"
19-03-2024 07:02:29 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: ...It'd be interesting if some more empathic cats decided to "liberate" drones
19-03-2024 07:03:10 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Maybe Grimalia has drone-only hives because of this kinda meddling.
19-03-2024 07:03:25 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: the drones long for the facotires
19-03-2024 07:04:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: maybe the evil capitalists should be bears instead.
19-03-2024 07:04:51 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Reasonable and would make sense but counterpoint: I like head triangles not head circles
19-03-2024 07:04:53 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: I got bears in ocean
19-03-2024 07:05:07 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: they live out in the hills and don't bother people mostly
19-03-2024 07:05:24 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Damn it ER you have too many neat ideas
19-03-2024 07:05:35 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I'd still like to play a magician cat in OCEAN.
19-03-2024 07:05:48 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: avoiding the touch of civilization by grace of being huge, tough, and knowing magic
19-03-2024 07:05:51 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Run some of them (and keep them alive)
19-03-2024 07:06:05 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: ...Are the bears in OCEAN literal bears, or bear-people?
19-03-2024 07:06:20 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: actual bears
19-03-2024 07:07:01 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: the only human looking people in Ocean are humans
19-03-2024 07:07:08 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: and genemods, perhaps
19-03-2024 07:08:37 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: Ocean started in my brain as a sci-fi setting, but if the ship fights are going to be WWII ship fights, why not just put them on the water where they make sense, and to avoid forehead aliens, the alien races are truly not-human-like normal animals from our world
19-03-2024 07:08:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: capitalist lizards, then.
19-03-2024 07:13:56 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: much as I'd like to run an Ocean game, I'm not really sure what to make the campaign, like, about
19-03-2024 07:14:12 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: long ago my plan was to simply rip off ER, but that's kinda eh
19-03-2024 07:14:35 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: I guess I could rip off DIG instead
19-03-2024 07:14:47 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: you know, SAIL!
19-03-2024 07:17:50 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: SNAIL
19-03-2024 07:18:32 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Your ship is an immortal giant snail that is very determined to kill some giant that wronged it in the past
19-03-2024 07:24:16 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: where's that come from?
19-03-2024 07:26:46 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Uhh internet meme
19-03-2024 07:27:36 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: There's some meme about being immortal, at the cost of there being an immortal snail somewhere in the world that instantly kills you if it touches you, which always knows where you are and is heading towards yoy
19-03-2024 07:30:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: mmm.
19-03-2024 07:34:39 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: oh, that
19-03-2024 07:57:02 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: just found a weirdly compelling wand in noita, in layer one
19-03-2024 07:57:39 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: it has an always cast on it, personal gravity field, which usually has 20 casts but is unlimited due to the always cast
19-03-2024 07:58:02 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: and it shoots bubble sparks which have a wide spread and linger around a little bit
19-03-2024 07:58:51 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: so I shoot at an enemy a few times, miss them, and when one of the bubble sparks does hit, it creates a gravity field around the enemy, drawing in the lingering bubble sparks which missed earlier for a bunch of damage
19-03-2024 07:59:22 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Oh that's really neat
19-03-2024 07:59:25 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I like that
19-03-2024 08:00:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: plus other enemies, projectiles.. all sorts of nonsense.
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19-03-2024 08:09:08 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: sadly bubble spark isn't one of the spells that does more damage the faster it's going, hrm
19-03-2024 08:09:16 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: maybe I want sawblades
19-03-2024 08:09:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: Hah.
19-03-2024 08:09:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: 'acid'
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19-03-2024 08:15:44 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: I took the personal plasma beam perk
19-03-2024 08:15:48 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: it seems to suck
19-03-2024 08:21:29 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: oh neat, the gravity well keeps the minigun bots from hitting me
19-03-2024 08:22:54 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Oh that's awesome
19-03-2024 08:22:58 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I hate those things
19-03-2024 08:23:07 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: What does personal plasma beam do?
19-03-2024 08:23:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: nifty.
19-03-2024 08:23:22 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: I was hoping that the gravity would interact with the plasma beam at all, but it doesn't
19-03-2024 08:24:00 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: the perk makes it so you shoot out plasma from your face whenever you're holding a wand, but your wands fire slower
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19-03-2024 08:24:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: ooh.
19-03-2024 08:24:41 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: does a ton of damage up really close, but that's it and it might do things you didn't intend because you can't turn it off other than switching to a potion
19-03-2024 08:24:57 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: for example shooting out a bomb directly into your own plasma beam
19-03-2024 08:25:08 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: it also vaporizes water and snow
19-03-2024 08:29:00 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: oop, blew myself up
19-03-2024 08:29:10 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: because I forgot to face away from my bomb lol
19-03-2024 08:31:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: The Noita Life.
19-03-2024 08:36:07 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: note: do not shoot the acid-bag enemy with an explosive weapon while it is above me
19-03-2024 08:36:26 < sy!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Sent PM for PMC game
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19-03-2024 08:36:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Most of it was written yesterday while sleepy, and I did not reread.
19-03-2024 08:37:49 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: oooooo
19-03-2024 08:38:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Strangely for me I wrote lore before I wrote mechanics
19-03-2024 08:38:27 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: hehe
19-03-2024 08:38:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Though I suppose the lore here already existed
19-03-2024 08:39:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: That one silly game about me and MJ wargaming against each other reaaaally spiraled
19-03-2024 08:39:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: ooh.
19-03-2024 08:40:09 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: for some reason wargaming seems to breed tons of lore
19-03-2024 08:41:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: indeed.
19-03-2024 08:41:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: It's not woof, though!  ;-p
19-03-2024 08:42:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: War is an extension of politics
19-03-2024 08:42:35 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: reference image gets "this content is no longer available"
19-03-2024 08:42:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: And I guess politics breed lore
19-03-2024 08:42:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: damn what
19-03-2024 08:42:53 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: don't use discord as image host, they hates it
19-03-2024 08:44:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: But Imgur does too, now
19-03-2024 08:44:36 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx grumbles and looks up his Imgur account details
19-03-2024 08:45:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: I've had no issues with postimages.org
19-03-2024 08:45:20 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: so far
19-03-2024 08:48:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I was going to say they'll fail eventually, but Imgur isn't letting me upload from mobile.
19-03-2024 08:49:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I used to be able to use desktop mode but that's not working for some reason.
19-03-2024 08:49:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: So I'll use that rather than install their spyware.
19-03-2024 08:49:49 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: unless someone finds a way to make it profitable or the government starts doing it as a public utility, they will all fail eventually
19-03-2024 08:50:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: https://i.postimg.cc/FzvXsCjF/nyafor-people.png
19-03-2024 08:50:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Yes.
19-03-2024 08:50:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I do think Discord is likely to last longer, at least for images.
19-03-2024 08:50:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: They're set up to make much more profit than imgur, thanks to their spyware genuinely being required.
19-03-2024 08:52:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: ..what?
19-03-2024 08:52:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: What what
19-03-2024 08:52:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: I had a paid imgur account.  No spyware or applications required.
19-03-2024 08:52:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I'm referring to the mobile app.
19-03-2024 08:52:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I broadly regard any app that some service forcefully tries to make me install as spyware.
19-03-2024 08:53:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: ahh.
19-03-2024 08:53:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: If I can't use the service in private browsing on my phone, something is up.
19-03-2024 08:54:57 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: when smartphones first came out, I thought the whole avertising angle that apps can do anything was neat
19-03-2024 08:55:12 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: but then I realized, web browser can also do anything
19-03-2024 08:55:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Yup.
19-03-2024 08:56:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Just rebranding the already-true statement that "there's code for that, somewhere, probably."
19-03-2024 08:56:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Except less true because PCs can do a hell of a lot more
19-03-2024 08:56:54 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: it was cool when it was a shitty little computer which one could take anywhere, now it's the shitty little computer that's the standard used by everyone
19-03-2024 08:58:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: ...Also there's two standards.
19-03-2024 08:58:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I hate Apple so much
19-03-2024 08:59:20 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: ...what if you got everything that you need from one company
19-03-2024 08:59:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I know, monopoly bad
19-03-2024 08:59:43 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: wouldn't that be great? wouldn't you love that? yeah, you stupid little consumer.
19-03-2024 08:59:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: But why does the alternative company have to be even WORSE?
19-03-2024 09:00:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Every apple device I've had the displeasure of using has consistently been worse _and_ more expensive than the alternative
19-03-2024 09:01:03 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: I'm more referring to the fact that everything on apple is apple
19-03-2024 09:01:18 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: if you are an apple customer then you will be spoonfed everything apple
19-03-2024 09:01:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Ah
19-03-2024 09:02:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: I thought you were saying "everything microsoft/Google would be worse"
19-03-2024 09:02:44 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: my sister used to use a paid weather app with really nice fine-detail information, like how many minutes it will rain or whatever. then the company was bought by apple to put it into their own weather app
19-03-2024 09:03:11 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: and even on their app, which is only on their phones, there's not as much information as there was on the original app
19-03-2024 09:03:45 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: at least microsoft and google begrudgingly let you use things not made by them
19-03-2024 09:03:49 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: for now
19-03-2024 09:06:25 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: ahh, I love grimalia
19-03-2024 09:06:52 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: "your country belongs to us now. here's some money, use it to occupy yourself"
19-03-2024 09:09:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: they're doing their best okay
19-03-2024 09:12:34 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: how well can you administer a continent using overwhelming an indiscriminite firepower, a handful of highly enthusiastic [s]murderers[/s] spec ops, and a mostly incompetent beurocracy
19-03-2024 09:18:10 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mqi:ojkn:vtpw:tptx: sent
19-03-2024 09:22:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.otv.wtx: Thank you
19-03-2024 09:29:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:ghlq:pxpg:yrwp:sgln: hmm.
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