07-01-2024 00:28:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:nvwp:jxik:lrmz:xnqt:kqtv: GDP per capita, #1 by 25%. 07-01-2024 00:28:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:nvwp:jxik:lrmz:xnqt:kqtv: glorious. 07-01-2024 01:29:59 -!- Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz has joined #einsteinianroulette 07-01-2024 02:34:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:nvwp:jxik:lrmz:xnqt:kqtv: Also, fuck, might want to console-check that. 07-01-2024 02:35:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:nvwp:jxik:lrmz:xnqt:kqtv: tag-switching to Canada lowers me by one rank. Completing confederation raises Canada one rank of independance from GB. Actually switching the tag via the journal entry resets it to -2. 07-01-2024 02:36:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:nvwp:jxik:lrmz:xnqt:kqtv: It's pretty noticeable, because rank one is 'pay up 10% of your money' and rank two is '20% of your raw income' For the world's ninth-largest economy, that's.. significant. 07-01-2024 03:46:23 -!- Disconnected from server... 07-01-2024 03:46:29 -!- Connected to server... 07-01-2024 03:46:29 -!- parisbre56[Away]!parisbre56@nxr879959437474.access.hol.gr has joined #einsteinianroulette 07-01-2024 03:46:29 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction! 07-01-2024 03:46:29 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36] 07-01-2024 05:53:07 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 07-01-2024 06:01:04 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:nvwp:jxik:lrmz:xnqt:kqtv has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07-01-2024 06:09:22 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy has joined #einsteinianroulette 07-01-2024 06:09:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Ultrakill 07-01-2024 06:09:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: that sounds like your kind of game, syv. 07-01-2024 06:21:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Why? 07-01-2024 06:22:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: you wanted randomly gnerated shooter. 07-01-2024 06:22:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Ultrakill would be what I would name such a game. 07-01-2024 06:27:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: I wanted randomly generated *tactical* shooter 07-01-2024 06:27:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: There's lots of procgen shooters in general 07-01-2024 06:27:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: DRG, BPM, a bunch of roguelites 07-01-2024 06:27:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: But they're pretty much universally either horde shooters or actiony strafe shooters 07-01-2024 06:28:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: ahh. 07-01-2024 06:28:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: hordes don't need much work. 07-01-2024 06:28:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Also, it's amusing to me that the game is so devoid of flavour, except for the map team. Know how I mentioned a bunch of towns had their old names?Z 07-01-2024 06:29:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: The names often changed at the right RL time. 07-01-2024 06:30:26 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: ultrakill is definitely not procgen 07-01-2024 06:30:45 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: which is good for it, because it benefits from creative level design and enemy placements 07-01-2024 06:31:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: The map is also super dynamic, adding settlements and roads and such with development. 07-01-2024 06:31:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: it's like the only bit of flavour they put in the game. 07-01-2024 06:33:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Tactical shooters I feel can benefit a lot from Procgen 07-01-2024 06:33:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Take SWAT 4 or something. Random enemy positions and counts, but every levels has a path through it, and ultimately enemy randomization doesn't change your path, playing properly. Just whether you pull the trigger. 07-01-2024 06:34:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: The genre really has a huge element of thinking about how to manuever in an environment, what cover to use, where to peek, etc. 07-01-2024 06:35:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: And static maps are learnable. A lot of the fun for me is figuring the path out, so it loses a lot of appeal once I learn it. 07-01-2024 06:36:00 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: would be a good place to experiment with a level generator which tries to capture a space that makes sense as a real place and not just as a level design 07-01-2024 06:36:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: hell 07-01-2024 06:36:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: I tried Six Days in Fallujah yesterday, which IS actually a proper tactical shooter with totally procgen levels. 07-01-2024 06:36:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: But it's really focused on being... a "documentary game"??? 07-01-2024 06:37:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: They made it hard as balls with barely any configuration and balanced it for teams of four which play like actual marines. 07-01-2024 06:37:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: And kinda stripped away the concept of "clearing" areas in favor of making it so enemies constantly ambush you from everywhere 07-01-2024 06:42:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: mmm. 07-01-2024 06:42:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: that does sound interesting. 07-01-2024 06:42:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: how about I promist to poke anyone I think might want to play with the idea? 07-01-2024 06:44:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: I didn't mean to get people to play it with me 07-01-2024 06:49:27 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: ultrakill is a fast game 07-01-2024 06:50:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: the boss I beat was just two enemies who become normal later on. but I guess they pull a bit of a trick on you by making the first few levels way more cramped than most of the game, so you have trouble dodging the basic dudes 07-01-2024 06:51:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Nah, someone might want to make it. 07-01-2024 06:58:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: SDiF has matchmaking, so if I really wanted to play with a group I could. 07-01-2024 06:59:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: I was gonna try it with Saki, because she's oddly interested in shooters, but functionally it's still disappointing for me because I'd like something I can play and enjoy solo. 07-01-2024 07:05:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: oh, are the orders in kitten clear? 07-01-2024 07:07:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah 07-01-2024 07:11:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: right. Now lets hope +2 movment helps me not get chainsawed. 07-01-2024 07:12:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Just want a gun because 1 damage/hit isn't going to win very fast. ;-p 07-01-2024 07:18:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Yes 07-01-2024 07:19:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Jimothy is kinda intended to make you go "oh AP is useful I should pick some of these guns up" 07-01-2024 07:20:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: I don't think Alida gets equipmen swaps like she did as a MG, though. 07-01-2024 07:20:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: or Trence does. 07-01-2024 07:21:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Trence has it great, really. Doesn't even notice. 07-01-2024 07:22:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: I don't know what you're referring to 07-01-2024 07:24:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Trence keeps wearing/having equipped his stuff when a dragon. 07-01-2024 07:25:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: even though it literally isn't there. 07-01-2024 07:27:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Alida, as a PS magical girl, could do costume changes and get all her school/home stuff back at the end of it without worry. 07-01-2024 07:43:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: I somehow don't think you'll allow a wolf to hoover up guns with her paws or something. 07-01-2024 08:24:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Nah 07-01-2024 08:25:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: You have to be human to equip/use weapons and armor, excepting certain advancements 07-01-2024 08:29:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: no magic rings or something? 07-01-2024 08:29:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: fair 'nuff, though. 07-01-2024 08:34:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Eh, sure, if you find a magic ring you can put it on a toebean 07-01-2024 08:34:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Probably 07-01-2024 08:41:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: ahh. also wondering what advancements are. 07-01-2024 08:49:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Fold/Tear/Weld etc 07-01-2024 08:50:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: ahh. 07-01-2024 08:50:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: some of those can get you gear? Interesting. 07-01-2024 08:50:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Technically yes 07-01-2024 08:50:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: But more properly, some of them *mess* with gear 07-01-2024 08:51:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Oh, that's interesting. 07-01-2024 08:51:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: so something that messes with gear, when she doesn't have any gear.. 07-01-2024 08:51:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: can you give me a hypothetical? 07-01-2024 09:09:12 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: thing about a fast nimble boss with basically the same abilities as me 07-01-2024 09:09:25 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: it feels like he's kicking my ass until I suddenly beat him 07-01-2024 09:24:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Well if you don't have any gear, something that messes with gesr does nothing 07-01-2024 09:36:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: ahh, huh. 07-01-2024 09:36:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: so some advancement options do nothing. 07-01-2024 09:37:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: I might not want to be the one experimenting then. 07-01-2024 09:39:24 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: don't go to BASS if you don't want to trade 07-01-2024 09:43:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Right, that was the name of.. 07-01-2024 09:43:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: what was it? 07-01-2024 09:44:04 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: Buy And Sell Shit, the shopcat 07-01-2024 09:45:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Huh. Might want to do that. 07-01-2024 10:00:37 -!- MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp has joined #einsteinianroulette 07-01-2024 10:00:44 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Lo 07-01-2024 10:00:59 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: hia mj 07-01-2024 10:01:05 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: bit late innit 07-01-2024 10:01:05 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Hiya Egan 07-01-2024 10:01:11 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Yeah. 07-01-2024 10:01:14 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: or are you up for the morning? :p 07-01-2024 10:01:22 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Nah just haven’t slept yet. 07-01-2024 10:01:42 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: I wish I had woken up the early it’d be better for my sleep schedule. 07-01-2024 10:02:04 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: yeah 07-01-2024 10:02:07 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: pat pat 07-01-2024 10:02:19 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Just got done with a very long chat and needed to decompress for a second. 07-01-2024 10:04:36 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: How are you doing Egan? 07-01-2024 10:05:02 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: well, sleepy 07-01-2024 10:05:16 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Yeah, it’s uhh rather late. 07-01-2024 10:05:20 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: I would reccomend sleeping 07-01-2024 10:05:57 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Expect for you syv. Don’t sleep up until your shift ends. 07-01-2024 10:06:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Yes 07-01-2024 10:06:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: oh, hey MJ. 07-01-2024 10:07:11 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: hiya dev 07-01-2024 10:07:16 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: How’re you all? 07-01-2024 10:07:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: Not too bad. Hitting the sack soon myself. 07-01-2024 10:08:25 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Sounds like a plan. 07-01-2024 10:08:45 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Once my cortisol levels fall a little bit I’ll be doing that. 07-01-2024 10:09:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: mmm, glorious doctor-speak. 07-01-2024 10:09:42 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Yes 07-01-2024 10:09:59 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: My tiredness overrides my filter on it 07-01-2024 10:10:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: It's fine. 07-01-2024 10:11:40 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Cortisol is the stress horomone…..ish. It does a lot of things, but it’s traditional thing and the first thing we found it did was that it was related to like being stressed so that’s why it’s referred to as that 07-01-2024 10:12:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: ahh, glorious evolution where everything does everything. 07-01-2024 10:12:06 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Pretty much 07-01-2024 10:13:27 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: I actually got to argue with an intelligent design proponent at a bar a while ago. It was great fun. Just 30 mintues of complaining about the stupid things the human body does 07-01-2024 10:14:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy: any highlights? 07-01-2024 10:16:42 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: The classic one is how bad humans are at giving birth. But my favorite one is that there are two bones in your body that if you break the head of the bone it frequently won’t heal right because there’s only one tiny artery providing blood for that section of bone, and it’s related to like some fucking early vertebrate semi aquatic anatomy. 07-01-2024 10:17:24 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: I also got to talk about how like there’s a nerve in your neck that goes down your neck and back up because of fucking fish anatomy 07-01-2024 10:18:32 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: humans are just surprisingly advanced fish 07-01-2024 10:19:08 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Yes, and we should have staid as fucking fish as far as I’m concerned. Bipedalism was a mistake 07-01-2024 10:19:40 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: I think it's pretty handy 07-01-2024 10:19:43 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: ehehehehehe 07-01-2024 10:20:36 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Our spines are like barely able to handle it which is why low back pain is such a problem because the damn vertebral disks don’t regenerate very well and of course when they do go out they just compensate with more bone instead of oh I don’t know more cartilage or something useful. 07-01-2024 10:21:11 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: But yeah, this madness. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurrent_laryngeal_nerve#/media/File%3ARecurrent_laryngeal_nerve.svg 07-01-2024 10:21:18 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Is the fucking fish nerve. 07-01-2024 10:21:32 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Every goddamn vertebrate does this if I recall correctly 07-01-2024 10:22:08 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz: then clearly it works fine! 07-01-2024 10:25:04 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Oh hey it is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurrent_laryngeal_nerve 07-01-2024 10:25:16 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: It’s a dumb nerve. 07-01-2024 10:26:27 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: It’s also why emergency heart surgery can result in a raspy voice 07-01-2024 10:30:15 < MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp: Anyway. I feel much better after ranting about the unfortunate decision for fish to leave the water. So I am headed to bed. Goodnight gentlmen and I hope you enjoy the angry old man yelling at clouds approach to teaching evolution. 07-01-2024 10:32:59 -!- MJ!MJ@2600:1005:b12b:okpw:zmqy:tivz:ikwj:ownp has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07-01-2024 10:47:52 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:yxli:skmr:zumk:npkk:zpjy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07-01-2024 12:19:31 -!- Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ryq:imju:wrmv:uvii:uuzz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07-01-2024 12:54:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Played a bit more of Six Days in Fallujah, this time with Saki. And god, I'm irritated about it. It's basically propaganda. 07-01-2024 12:56:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: It's a really hard game. With no ability to make it easier, or tone down difficulty. That's not a hard thing to do--apparently a modder had done it, in very nice increments--the devs refuse to add any easier difficulties to learn the game. Because... Fallujah was a bloody, painful, difficult battle. 07-01-2024 12:56:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: And it was. 07-01-2024 12:59:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: But it was nowhere near this game. Coalition forces substantially outnumbered Islamic forces, and had substantially more support. Substantially better armor and weapons. 07-01-2024 13:01:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: In this game, you're outnumbered about 8-to-1, worse if you play with less than 4 people (the max, ofc), the enemy can call in mortars on you, they get more variety in gear, their weapons are more lethal (consistently, unarmored enemies take at least three chest shots to kill, versus the armored player's two). 07-01-2024 13:03:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: It's deeply unrealistic to what actually was the norm. Shit this bad surely happened to some unfortunate marines, but the game isn't representing it as extreme incidents. 07-01-2024 13:04:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: This is somewhat fine, really; it's a game and games should provide some challenge. But it's not a realistic depiction, and the developers use the "realism" aspect of it to justify not making simple features which would make the game better. 07-01-2024 13:04:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: When stuff like reducing enemy count would be quite realistic. 07-01-2024 13:05:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: It's intended to serve a narrative first, and be a good game second. 07-01-2024 13:05:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Which irks me a good bit, since it's actually creative in one place I WANT to see creativity, procgen maps. 07-01-2024 13:06:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: It also irks me that the narrative is essentially a straight up lie, and they're making it be a worse game to *support* that lie 07-01-2024 13:06:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: I'm not anti-military at all, but come *on* 07-01-2024 13:07:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Marines were not scared lambs heavily outnumbered by a better armed and more resilient force 07-01-2024 13:08:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: They were fighting asymmetric warfare which is fucking harsh, and this game doesn't really depict that at ALL 07-01-2024 13:08:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: It's perfectly fine to shoot everything that moves, you never accidentally a civilian, because there are none 07-01-2024 13:08:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Despite this supposedly being a city with 30-90k civilians still inside 07-01-2024 13:09:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Blah 07-01-2024 13:09:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: I have to drive home 07-01-2024 13:09:27 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com has quit [Quit: Thanks, Musk. -.-] 07-01-2024 16:25:08 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:wtxm:xqoh:lrvp:ikrq:wink has joined #einsteinianroulette 07-01-2024 18:39:04 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:wtxm:xqoh:lrvp:ikrq:wink has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07-01-2024 20:14:46 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:roih:mqyo:qztj:vtrk:szqm has joined #einsteinianroulette 07-01-2024 20:53:28 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:roih:mqyo:qztj:vtrk:szqm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07-01-2024 21:20:27 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:rjsh:mqhi:yzzr:yvou:vqyx has joined #einsteinianroulette 07-01-2024 22:17:47 -!- Stopped log service 07-01-2024 22:18:17 -!- Started log service 07-01-2024 22:18:23 -!- parisbre56[Away]!parisbre56@nxr879959437474.access.hol.gr has joined #einsteinianroulette 07-01-2024 22:18:23 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction! 07-01-2024 22:18:23 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36] 07-01-2024 22:51:28 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:rjsh:mqhi:yzzr:yvou:vqyx has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07-01-2024 23:03:49 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:mynr:thkq:jzrj:yvxg:tqko has joined #einsteinianroulette