02-01-2024 00:03:20 < * Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw hugs syv
02-01-2024 00:18:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I don't think syv is around.
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02-01-2024 01:00:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: how was cat?
02-01-2024 01:01:34 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: what?
02-01-2024 01:04:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: you were catsitting.
02-01-2024 01:04:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: was catsitting gud?
02-01-2024 01:05:18 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: yeah
02-01-2024 01:07:39 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: got to have a quiet house to myself and cook for myself a little
02-01-2024 01:08:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SIX6g67xdY
02-01-2024 01:13:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I'm really good at Yhatzee, actually.
02-01-2024 01:21:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: ooh.
02-01-2024 01:21:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: new OotS
02-01-2024 01:21:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: return of the Evil!
02-01-2024 01:22:04 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: yes
02-01-2024 01:22:08 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: fiends it seems
02-01-2024 01:24:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: well, they still have time from V.
02-01-2024 01:24:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: maybe they'll use the time.. and do something beneficial to V.
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02-01-2024 02:40:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: well, conquered zululand.  Unfortunately a massive increase in SoL only removed about a third of the rebelliousness.  ;-p
02-01-2024 02:46:54 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: what's that mean
02-01-2024 03:04:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: zululand had shit tech and dirt poor people.
02-01-2024 03:04:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: after conquest they got richer due to better access to the global markets and basic tech for their buildings, making them more efficient.
02-01-2024 03:05:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: so everyone got basically three points richer.
02-01-2024 03:05:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: that was only enough to remove about a third of the angry people.
02-01-2024 03:09:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: The remainder will be angry for a few years and then they'll leave the country for another place.  Probably communist Australia.
02-01-2024 03:10:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: They might try to start a rebellion, but I have far, far too many loyalists for any revolution to succeed.  It's just that I have a lot of angry people too.
02-01-2024 03:10:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I have all those loyalists because Haiti is the sixth richest country on the planet, ahead of both the UK and Germany.
02-01-2024 03:10:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: not in terms of raw GDP, but in general population wealth.
02-01-2024 03:11:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: unfortunately I can't integrate zululand quickly, because that would raise them an additional 2.5 ranks.
02-01-2024 03:15:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: double annoyingly I can't actually put in multiculturalism to drive the unaccepted population ratio to near-zero, unless I can get the intellectuals back in office.
02-01-2024 03:15:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: but anyway, I think I'm gonna start over again with another country.
02-01-2024 03:17:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Maybe one of the organized central african states that gets a century of isolation before being hit by colonizers.
02-01-2024 03:17:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: and then after that I'll play something small and european.
02-01-2024 03:17:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: and then something asian.
02-01-2024 03:19:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: It should work better than Circassia did.
02-01-2024 03:19:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: (The country that held the region of Russia containing Soichi.  Before it got conquered by Russia.)
02-01-2024 03:19:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: (It's doomed)
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02-01-2024 03:46:17 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
02-01-2024 03:46:17 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
02-01-2024 03:51:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I'll go with Kanem Bornu, home of one of the more famous world conquests in EU3, when the game had both map painting and extreme penalties for non-EU states.
02-01-2024 03:51:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: not as famous as "The audacity of Hope."
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02-01-2024 04:59:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I am here
02-01-2024 05:00:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: hello here
02-01-2024 05:00:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: hello floor
02-01-2024 05:02:56 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: this floor is made out of floor
02-01-2024 05:17:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Precisely.
02-01-2024 05:17:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: MJ is trying to talk me into doing actual gamedev
02-01-2024 05:18:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I sent him an idle DM yesterday about how it'd be cool to see a tactical shooter take certain mechanics from Lethal Company, and he likes the idea too much.
02-01-2024 05:18:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Now he wants me to make it...
02-01-2024 05:18:53 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: hrm
02-01-2024 05:18:59 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: that sounds difficult
02-01-2024 05:19:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Hello.
02-01-2024 05:22:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: It shouldn't be, but it probably is.
02-01-2024 05:22:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: woof from above.
02-01-2024 05:22:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Really I just want to play a tactical shooter which has randomly generated environments, and has enemies who ALSO have guns.
02-01-2024 05:22:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Ideally with Roguelite elements.
02-01-2024 05:22:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I just want SWAT 4 with replayability.  Or Ready Or Not with replayability.
02-01-2024 05:23:13 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: so infinite kowloon roguelite shooter
02-01-2024 05:23:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: But that doesn't exist
02-01-2024 05:23:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: YES
02-01-2024 05:23:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: YES EXACTLY
02-01-2024 05:23:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: There's lots of Roguelite shooters, but they all center around strafing/dodging mechanics
02-01-2024 05:23:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Where you're the only person with a gun
02-01-2024 05:23:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: *Why?*
02-01-2024 05:23:59 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: dense procgen urban envrionments so that you can swat to your heart's content
02-01-2024 05:24:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: please!
02-01-2024 05:24:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: you want to play a FPS version of teleglitch?
02-01-2024 05:24:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I don't care if it's a tiny niche, it's a completely empty niche
02-01-2024 05:24:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Yes Dev
02-01-2024 05:24:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Though I'm unsure how many enemies are shooty in teleglitch
02-01-2024 05:24:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: many of them.
02-01-2024 05:25:00 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: personally I like the boomshoot formula better, the reason why enemies don't have guns is that it's easier to build a game around dodging projectiles than bullets
02-01-2024 05:25:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: later on, quite a few.
02-01-2024 05:25:06 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: and dodging is fun
02-01-2024 05:25:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Rouge Effect is a better example really, that'd a cover based shooter roguelike.
02-01-2024 05:25:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Yeag...
02-01-2024 05:25:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: hah, enemies who have guns and tactical shooters..
02-01-2024 05:25:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: that's Descent.
02-01-2024 05:25:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: it's not random, but it's as hard as you could possibly want such a thing.
02-01-2024 05:25:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: ...Does Descent have rando--
02-01-2024 05:25:42 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: moving at ten billion meters per second and surviving by obliterating everything before it can touch you is not realitic, but it's very fun
02-01-2024 05:26:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Blah
02-01-2024 05:26:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I find that fun too, Egan
02-01-2024 05:26:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I love BPM
02-01-2024 05:26:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: for randomness, sounds like you want competitive shooters.
02-01-2024 05:26:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: But it doesn't scratch the itch
02-01-2024 05:26:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: not AI, but the shrinking arena shooters.
02-01-2024 05:26:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: No, competitive shooters have extremely static maps, and very much have metas about how to move
02-01-2024 05:26:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: eh, fair enough.
02-01-2024 05:26:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: And I don't like playing against equally matched opponents
02-01-2024 05:26:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: By definition, you should lose about half the time in comp shooters
02-01-2024 05:27:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: you could probably set up one of those on a generated map, and fill it mostly with bad opponents.
02-01-2024 05:27:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: That may actually be part of why this isn't a thing though
02-01-2024 05:27:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: most people lose more than half the time.
02-01-2024 05:27:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: it's how they work.
02-01-2024 05:27:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Most people just play counter strike or something to scratch this itch
02-01-2024 05:27:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: better people win more than half, and the downslope is longer than the upslope.
02-01-2024 05:28:22 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: counter strike or tarkov :p
02-01-2024 05:28:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I'm still somewhat in awe that CS is still a thing.
02-01-2024 05:29:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I was around when it was new.
02-01-2024 05:29:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: FUCK Tarkov
02-01-2024 05:29:28 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: yup, and it's the first FPS that valve made in their new engine ;-;
02-01-2024 05:29:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: A mod of Tarkov which does this would actually be godly perfect
02-01-2024 05:29:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Because Tarkov does a few mechanics amazingly and then the rest HORRIBLY
02-01-2024 05:29:59 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: yes
02-01-2024 05:30:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Which also reminds me of an issue with PvP shooters
02-01-2024 05:30:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Cheating
02-01-2024 05:30:22 < * Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk nods.
02-01-2024 05:30:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: always a huge issue.
02-01-2024 05:30:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: The number of wallhackers in Tarkov is insane
02-01-2024 05:30:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: you can fight it, but there's always gonna be a bunch of that.
02-01-2024 05:30:48 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: at least there's an arena game of tarkov now so that you can at least play the gunplay stuff in a more CS style rather than the slow loot crawl BS
02-01-2024 05:31:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Oh, there is?
02-01-2024 05:31:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Hrm
02-01-2024 05:31:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I don't want to pay the devs of Tarkov >.>
02-01-2024 05:31:16 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: yeah, but it makes you grind hard to get good equipment
02-01-2024 05:31:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: But I'd also--
02-01-2024 05:31:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Yeah okay that makes it an easy choice
02-01-2024 05:31:27 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: and is still tarkov, and multiplayer, and on fixed maps
02-01-2024 05:32:36 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: yeah it starts you with bad loadouts and it takes a big long time to unlock better stuff, and there's no loadout based matchmaking so you'll be matched with people with arbitarilly good guns and armor
02-01-2024 05:32:56 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: in a game which already costs full price! :D
02-01-2024 05:33:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Agg.
02-01-2024 05:33:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Man.
02-01-2024 05:33:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Mind you, having no gear advantage but a ridiculous skillcap isn't much better..
02-01-2024 05:48:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Yes
02-01-2024 05:48:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: But it's still notably bettee
02-01-2024 05:53:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: ..I don't know.
02-01-2024 05:53:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I mean.. yeah, in theory.
02-01-2024 05:54:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Okay, I mentioned GRP in a PM a minute ago, but GRP
02-01-2024 05:55:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Yeah, but getting whored by vets sucks pretty much as much.
02-01-2024 05:55:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Being veteran in that meant I had great gear from the start, and when they "properly" released the game on steam and there was an influx of newbies, it was *very* apparent the gear advantage was unfair
02-01-2024 05:55:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: It meant they couldn't beat me even by outplaying me, which rarely happened
02-01-2024 05:56:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Ahh.
02-01-2024 05:56:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Yeah, I mean, yeah.
02-01-2024 05:56:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: but I did live through a 12 month period of no wins.
02-01-2024 05:56:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: There's a very specific kind of guilt you feel after a guy sneaks up behind you, shoots you in the back of the head, and does so little damage you can 180 and doubletap his face for an instakill.
02-01-2024 05:57:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I luckily had kept my beta gear, so when I was having a good day I'd reverse this and equip the crappiest gear from launch, which was at the time unattainable (they completely replaced the full armory after steam release).
02-01-2024 05:58:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: That still didn't make it fair against newbies, because vet vs newb... but at least they *did* kill me occasionally.
02-01-2024 05:58:12 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: a kind of guilt which surely tarkov players are immune to
02-01-2024 05:58:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Yeah they're sociopaths
02-01-2024 05:58:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: They stack cheats on top of it
02-01-2024 05:59:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: my god.
02-01-2024 05:59:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: assholes.
02-01-2024 06:10:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: But yeah, that's assholes for you.
02-01-2024 06:10:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Yup.
02-01-2024 06:10:52 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: sure enough
02-01-2024 06:11:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I like shooters where I can mow down enemies and not feel bad for them not having fun
02-01-2024 06:11:19 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: yes!
02-01-2024 06:12:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I sandbag when that happens.  ;-p
02-01-2024 06:13:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: but yeah, some games are fine for that.
02-01-2024 06:13:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: other games it's just you being stupid.
02-01-2024 06:15:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: never felt guilty when I did good in World of Tanks, for instance.
02-01-2024 06:27:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2259590/Arcticide/
02-01-2024 06:27:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Well, I found this
02-01-2024 06:27:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Which is REALLY disappointing
02-01-2024 06:27:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Because I find it as a link off of a tech demo on Itch.
02-01-2024 06:27:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Where he made a procgen "gigastructure" inspired by the environment in BLAME.
02-01-2024 06:27:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Which would be absolutely perfect IMO
02-01-2024 06:28:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I guess that was too hard, so he decided to make a flat procgen world.  But hey, it's a procgen shooter,
02-01-2024 06:28:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: https://starmote.itch.io/gigastructure
02-01-2024 06:28:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: This looks like it might be fun just to look at though
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02-01-2024 07:03:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: https://starmote.itch.io/proc-gun
02-01-2024 07:03:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: ...Only now realize it's the same guy
02-01-2024 07:03:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I was about to say "this scratches the itch, despite being a super bare bones tech demo"
02-01-2024 07:04:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I was literally just thinking "maybe I'll look up the dev and email him to ask if I can mod this trivial little thing"
02-01-2024 07:04:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: But no, he's making an actual game, that seems to just... be iterating on this basic concept
02-01-2024 07:04:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: So that makes me happy
02-01-2024 07:05:32 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: good
02-01-2024 07:06:12 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: though putting your hopes in some single rando indie dev with an undefined release schedule isn't ideal, exactly
02-01-2024 07:07:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Frankly it's better than putting my hopes in myself
02-01-2024 07:21:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: hey, I'm a rando indy and apparently I made something someone likes.
02-01-2024 07:23:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: This ProcGun game is actually ridiculously solid, what the hell
02-01-2024 07:23:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: It's so simple but I've had several really exciting moments
02-01-2024 07:24:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Hahaha
02-01-2024 07:24:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: oh man, that takes me back.
02-01-2024 07:24:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: so back.
02-01-2024 07:24:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: all the best stuff in the early internet was some random thing made by one dude.
02-01-2024 07:26:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I should stream this sometime
02-01-2024 07:27:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: It'd get old fairly quick but it's neat
02-01-2024 07:27:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: And this is absolutely good enough for me to just open occasionally when I want to shoot people
02-01-2024 07:27:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Definitely wishlisting his actual game
02-01-2024 07:29:58 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: I'll download it then :p
02-01-2024 07:30:04 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: I enjoy a simple fun game
02-01-2024 07:30:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: DROD still any good?
02-01-2024 07:31:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: that is not a simple game
02-01-2024 07:32:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: you're a man with a sword.
02-01-2024 07:32:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: ;-p
02-01-2024 07:37:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: DROD is, yeah
02-01-2024 07:37:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I've wanted to play a couple times, and haven't because I mean to stream it for you
02-01-2024 07:38:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Do be prepared for annoyance, Egan.  The enemies have varied guns and gear, but you don't.
02-01-2024 07:38:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Also if you reload you lose the mag, even if it's full.
02-01-2024 07:38:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Enemy drops are random, so you can get unlucky and only get HP or only get ammo (though if you're ammo efficient, over the long term it's pretty fine)
02-01-2024 07:39:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Seems to get harder over time but I'm not sure
02-01-2024 07:39:46 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: I'm always prepared for annoyance!~
02-01-2024 07:43:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: feel free to poke me then if you do want to stream it.
02-01-2024 07:43:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: and I don't need to watch every minute.
02-01-2024 08:19:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Yeah, Proc-Gun gets harder with levels
02-01-2024 08:19:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Died on Room 9, it tracks it in the lower left of the screen
02-01-2024 08:20:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: That room seemed to have an enemy with a full-auto shotgun spawned right outside the starting room.  Along with a squad of normal guys.  I wasn't aware that could happen, so I had no cover and had to run back to the starting train-pod-thing.
02-01-2024 08:20:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Killed most of his squad then left and he shot me around the corner.
02-01-2024 08:21:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: The AI is pretty good.  It's slightly too aware of the player's location, but it flanks and ambushes and tries to maintain its weapon's ideal range.
02-01-2024 08:21:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Snipers usually stay back (though they do occasionally rush too), shotgunners charge.
02-01-2024 08:34:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: sounds like a good time.
02-01-2024 08:35:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: sounds like it needs co-op ;p
02-01-2024 08:35:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Yeah I love this little tech demo
02-01-2024 08:35:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: It *does*
02-01-2024 08:35:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: It's simple but it's good
02-01-2024 08:37:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Wanna watch a stream?
02-01-2024 08:47:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Dead on room 10
02-01-2024 08:47:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Same mistake, I was getting overconfident >.<
02-01-2024 08:47:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Sure.
02-01-2024 08:47:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I'm up for a stream.
02-01-2024 08:49:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Invited you to watch
02-01-2024 08:49:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Steam's weird with non-steam games, tell me if there's issues
02-01-2024 08:50:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Don't see it.
02-01-2024 08:50:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Tried again
02-01-2024 08:50:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Oop.
02-01-2024 08:50:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Okay.
02-01-2024 08:50:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: it's working.
02-01-2024 08:50:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: you should be able to click on my game and choose "ask to watch"
02-01-2024 08:51:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: yeah, that's not working.
02-01-2024 08:51:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: but I see you now.
02-01-2024 08:51:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: `cg
02-01-2024 08:51:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: The only weapon you need.
02-01-2024 08:51:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Go Go Go!
02-01-2024 08:51:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: go kill stuff!  It looks simple!
02-01-2024 08:51:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: `4
02-01-2024 08:51:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: `nf
02-01-2024 08:52:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: `ab
02-01-2024 08:52:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Glorious 2010s bloom.
02-01-2024 08:53:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: you got a lot of health that last room.
02-01-2024 08:54:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: good job shooting that guy in the dick.
02-01-2024 08:54:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: maybe gun #3 isn't implemented yet.
02-01-2024 08:55:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: It's 2 skill and F-?
02-01-2024 08:56:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: (The melee attack.)
02-01-2024 08:58:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I'm imagining this as an Alida simulator now.  No gun, you're much faster, and you have lethal melee attacks and more health.  But a bigger model, too.
02-01-2024 09:00:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: Yeah.
02-01-2024 09:00:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: some more variety would be nice.
02-01-2024 09:00:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: more building sets.
02-01-2024 09:01:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: nah, it'd be fixed.
02-01-2024 09:02:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: and you're back at full health.
02-01-2024 09:04:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: yeah, should have some streets, building-heavy european city maps, office maps..
02-01-2024 09:04:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: could use a couple more.
02-01-2024 09:05:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: the obligatory factory and parking garage, and then an urban park.
02-01-2024 09:05:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: I would say no, you didn't kill the guy.
02-01-2024 09:07:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: sin against modelling.
02-01-2024 09:08:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: well, better than every gun being an AK.
02-01-2024 09:09:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:slwp:jlvj:rgxg:mvpr:ojzk: he's dead, that was his drop there.
02-01-2024 09:26:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: got to room 7
02-01-2024 09:28:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Grats
02-01-2024 09:28:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: It starts getting hard after 5
02-01-2024 09:30:34 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:yno:zmtv:xqzy:vymm:qvnw: does the lean not actually lean for you
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02-01-2024 09:33:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: I think lean is affecting your character model
02-01-2024 09:33:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: So you shuffle to the side when you lean, despite your point of aim being steady
02-01-2024 09:43:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Died on room 16
02-01-2024 09:43:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Entrance area again
02-01-2024 09:44:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Streets is the lethal map purely because it always opens on a wide highway area
02-01-2024 09:44:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: So you'll often get a lot of enemies right outside the door, with no real chokepoint
02-01-2024 09:44:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Good game
02-01-2024 09:44:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.log.wr: Lots of potential
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