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15-10-2023 01:27:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: hello jaggers.
15-10-2023 01:27:56 < MJ!mj@6679-1274-0790-14nn-g87v-smx0-c75u-73xb.res2.spectrum.com: hiya dev
15-10-2023 01:28:24 < MJ!mj@6679-1274-0790-14nn-g87v-smx0-c75u-73xb.res2.spectrum.com: Test is madness as always
15-10-2023 01:30:09 < MJ!mj@6679-1274-0790-14nn-g87v-smx0-c75u-73xb.res2.spectrum.com: Middle east doesn't seem like a ton better tbh
15-10-2023 01:39:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: mmm.
15-10-2023 01:39:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: I should read the DA Dirk Gently novels.
15-10-2023 01:39:57 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: bleb
15-10-2023 01:40:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: hello bleb.
15-10-2023 01:41:40 < MJ!mj@6679-1274-0790-14nn-g87v-smx0-c75u-73xb.res2.spectrum.com: hiya ER 
15-10-2023 01:47:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: and hello normal slime.
15-10-2023 01:56:05 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: very normal
15-10-2023 01:56:53 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: I have no idea how long it takes to stage up but it should be amusing to use staging down to try out different paths or something
15-10-2023 01:57:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: I did so a lot faster than usual.
15-10-2023 01:58:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: also GM doesn't like me, so you can get decently powerful stuff.
15-10-2023 01:58:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: not that long, really.  Dozen turns?
15-10-2023 01:58:41 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: powerful stuff? no I don't want that, they would eat me
15-10-2023 01:58:54 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: I want lots of tasty stuff, not powerful stuff
15-10-2023 01:59:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: I mean your stuff.
15-10-2023 01:59:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: the stuff you use.
15-10-2023 01:59:28 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: use? what is use?
15-10-2023 01:59:37 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: there is only glomp
15-10-2023 02:09:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: Could also go the way of Dustan's character.
15-10-2023 02:09:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: psionically eat stuff.
15-10-2023 02:11:38 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: what is psionically
15-10-2023 02:13:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: you want to eat stuff, and simply wanting it makes it happen.
15-10-2023 02:21:11 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: fake stuff
15-10-2023 02:21:16 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: only real food is stuff
15-10-2023 02:27:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: hah.
15-10-2023 02:36:43 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: up? what is up?
15-10-2023 02:37:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: hmm?
15-10-2023 02:37:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: oh, apparently I'm surrounded by oversized insects.
15-10-2023 02:37:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: and apparently Nak thinks you can 'surround' something that flies.
15-10-2023 02:38:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: that should, in all honesty, fly a lot better than them.  No matter how much Nak doesn't want to give me benefits for putting levels in it.
15-10-2023 02:43:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: That said, it's amusing, though.
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15-10-2023 02:51:59 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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15-10-2023 03:14:36 < MJ!mj@6679-1274-0790-14nn-g87v-smx0-c75u-73xb.res2.spectrum.com: I should go to bed
15-10-2023 03:15:07 < MJ!mj@6679-1274-0790-14nn-g87v-smx0-c75u-73xb.res2.spectrum.com: goodnight gents
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15-10-2023 03:16:16 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: good night
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15-10-2023 04:34:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: hello syv.
15-10-2023 04:35:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: hello dev.
15-10-2023 04:35:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: How is Canada
15-10-2023 04:38:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: fairly warm.
15-10-2023 04:39:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: strange
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15-10-2023 05:08:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: ok
15-10-2023 05:08:41 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: ok
15-10-2023 05:18:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: ok
15-10-2023 05:19:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: bounce!
15-10-2023 05:25:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: bounce!
15-10-2023 05:26:38 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: >.>
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15-10-2023 10:12:04 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: alright, one of your casters is rolling with a 1d6+5 and the other with a 1d6+4
15-10-2023 10:12:32 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: and the enemy's difficulty is 2+3+2 = 7
15-10-2023 10:13:29 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: with you getting a -2 for not being the exact correct type (though heart type would really just be worse)
15-10-2023 10:14:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: I do have the exact correct type, though, they're casters, not the secondary one for -2.
15-10-2023 10:15:08 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: carla can use Invoker though, which is countered by defender
15-10-2023 10:15:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: Invoker's countered by caster, isn't it?
15-10-2023 10:15:45 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: you want to use caster mostly because she has the least hitpoints in Mind
15-10-2023 10:15:56 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: and fallen maidens have a TON of hitpoints
15-10-2023 10:16:54 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: invoker is countered by defender
15-10-2023 10:20:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: I don't see that anywhere in the rules.
15-10-2023 10:21:22 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: check the post right above yours? :p
15-10-2023 10:23:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: No, it doesn't say that.  It does suggest 'weak against caster'
15-10-2023 10:23:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: but it doesn't say that.
15-10-2023 10:23:28 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: the spoiler
15-10-2023 10:24:20 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: Combat Skills
15-10-2023 10:24:20 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: Like in Spectre Combat, some Combat Skills are more or less effective depending on the Combat Skills they are up against.
15-10-2023 10:24:20 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: STRIKER > CASTER
15-10-2023 10:24:20 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: CASTER > DEFENDER
15-10-2023 10:24:20 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: DEFENDER > INVOKER
15-10-2023 10:24:22 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: INVOKER > STRIKER
15-10-2023 10:24:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: oh, it got added.
15-10-2023 10:24:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: that wasn't there when I saw the post.
15-10-2023 10:24:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: bloody edit.
15-10-2023 10:26:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: (Defenders, 3/5 for one, 2/5 for the other.)
15-10-2023 10:26:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: No, they're about as good as anyone else there.
15-10-2023 10:26:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: maybe someone else adds ARMS.
15-10-2023 10:27:10 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: well her rolls are weak to defenders but you'd have to hit her 18 times
15-10-2023 10:27:16 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: and just 6 times for the caster
15-10-2023 10:27:25 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: so taking the -2 is worth it
15-10-2023 10:27:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: Yeah, I mean..
15-10-2023 10:27:32 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: but you will in fact be taking the -2
15-10-2023 10:27:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: who else is better?
15-10-2023 10:28:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: mmm.
15-10-2023 10:28:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: also, 4 hits to win for caster, not 6.
15-10-2023 10:29:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: 4 vs 12.
15-10-2023 10:29:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: ahh, I see now.
15-10-2023 10:29:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: diff is 4+ and 5+,  vs 2+ and 3+.
15-10-2023 10:31:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: that's 5 pips for hits and 7 fails for the first one, and 9 hits and 3 fails for the second.
15-10-2023 10:31:39 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: nope, you have to hit them from -2 up to 0, then all the way up to +4
15-10-2023 10:31:47 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: so six hits
15-10-2023 10:32:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: yeah, we aren't getting six hits with the former.
15-10-2023 10:33:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: The second might well actually get the 18.
15-10-2023 10:33:31 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: also you still take damage even on a hit unless you roll 2 higher than the difficulty
15-10-2023 10:33:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: average is 18 hits and 6 fails with the second.
15-10-2023 10:34:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: and first is average of 8 fails.
15-10-2023 10:34:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: mmm, under that circumstances, all missions are gonna end up doomed.
15-10-2023 10:34:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: I'll go wipe my post, but they're all fails.
15-10-2023 10:35:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: It's almost impossible for any of them to roll two better than the difficulty, under any circumstances.
15-10-2023 10:36:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: and they generally need to survive at least one round to not get wounded out, due to having low hitpoints.
15-10-2023 10:36:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: Have to team up in a group of four or better.
15-10-2023 10:43:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: but yeah, I think maybe we have to do a four teamer to clear the second one.  Maybe the third one is doable by a pair.
15-10-2023 10:44:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: all six might well lose to the first one.
15-10-2023 10:44:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: Just not enough hitpoitns.
15-10-2023 10:45:46 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: more hitpoints doesn't even help with that one because there's no safe position
15-10-2023 10:46:24 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: it has infinite AoE because everyone has to roll every time to not take damage, and unless they're really strong, they will take damage
15-10-2023 10:54:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: Yes it helps, it buys extra rounds.
15-10-2023 10:55:06 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: well, more ARMs I mean
15-10-2023 10:55:29 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: throwing in more won't make the first one any tankier, just add extra chances to get hits in
15-10-2023 10:55:38 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:lmr:mwsz:vzm:mixz:ptzk: (and get hit)
15-10-2023 10:57:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: yes, which would make it take much less time.
15-10-2023 10:57:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: the odds are just too bad, though.
15-10-2023 10:58:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:ghot:kzhw:kllp:xiyt:hlpp: if we had a third, it'd work.
15-10-2023 11:29:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@155-004-684-709.biz.spectrum.com: Nak does a lot of editing in ARMs
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15-10-2023 21:30:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:oxli:qngw:gzqo:smtx:jkgq: posted in ARM.
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15-10-2023 21:47:00 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
15-10-2023 22:13:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:oxli:qngw:gzqo:smtx:jkgq: and again.
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