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11-09-2023 02:46:29 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
11-09-2023 02:46:29 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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11-09-2023 07:33:31 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt yawns
11-09-2023 07:33:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Slept in
11-09-2023 07:35:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Devastator, you around?  Dunno what your schedule is like right now.
11-09-2023 07:36:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: was gonna poke you, but I ca be around for a while longer, syv.
11-09-2023 07:36:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Yeah
11-09-2023 07:36:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: You need the exe version?
11-09-2023 07:36:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: The installer for python 3.11.6. was incompatible with Win 7, so yeah, I think so.
11-09-2023 07:36:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: 3.11.5, sorry.
11-09-2023 07:36:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: You're on win 7?
11-09-2023 07:37:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Way older pythons should actually work, but... win 7 might be old enough some random thing I used isn't available.  Making an executable seems easy though, so no worries.
11-09-2023 07:38:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Yes.  Didn't have a reason to upgrade for a very, very long time.
11-09-2023 07:39:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Steam broke just now, so that's a reason.
11-09-2023 07:39:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: and no, I wasn't worried about security or anything.  I'm set up fine for there.
11-09-2023 07:41:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: It's time I upgrade the computer again, too.  It's getting long in the tooth.
11-09-2023 07:41:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: doesn't need to be this slow.
11-09-2023 07:44:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: It's fine, no judgement from me.
11-09-2023 07:45:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Just surprised
11-09-2023 07:45:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Shouldn't be; using an older version makes a lot of sense for you.  ;P
11-09-2023 07:47:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Besides, I like how it feels.
11-09-2023 07:48:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: and you know me and sticking with what I like instead of upgrading.  ;-p
11-09-2023 08:06:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Yeah, I get that
11-09-2023 08:06:55 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt facepalms
11-09-2023 08:07:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: So, I exported it to an exe
11-09-2023 08:07:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: ...But apparently this builds a 25.5 MB distribution file, which I guess essentially contains a portable version of python
11-09-2023 08:07:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: With 1029 files
11-09-2023 08:08:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: For a 9 KB script
11-09-2023 08:08:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Distribution folder*
11-09-2023 08:08:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: I'm... gonna look for a better way to do this.  :P
11-09-2023 08:09:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Hah.
11-09-2023 08:14:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Okay, different translation program gets it down to 5.6 MB and one file rather than a folder
11-09-2023 08:14:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Waaay better
11-09-2023 08:15:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Apparently the first one I tried has been in use for 22 years.
11-09-2023 08:16:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: It's maintained, but... does not seem to be the best for my needs.
11-09-2023 08:16:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: that might be back from python's origins.
11-09-2023 08:17:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Closer than not, but Python's 32 years old right now
11-09-2023 08:20:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704124253976526868/1150707393395699823/extinction_status_processor_v0.1.zip
11-09-2023 08:20:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Here
11-09-2023 08:20:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Hopefully that works
11-09-2023 08:23:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Nope.
11-09-2023 08:23:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Blah
11-09-2023 08:23:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: "This program can't start because (insert .dll name here) is missing from your computer.
11-09-2023 08:24:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Hrm.
11-09-2023 08:24:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: That might be a win7 issue then.  >.>
11-09-2023 08:25:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: I'll look through the settings of the packager
11-09-2023 08:25:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Yeah, although a win-7 compatible version of python should be ok to install.
11-09-2023 08:25:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: What's the dll name?
11-09-2023 08:25:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: api-ms-win-core-path-|1-1-0.dll
11-09-2023 08:26:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I think that's a pipe.  I can't actually copy it from the box.
11-09-2023 08:26:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: gah, I forgot what the technical name is for that kind of pop-up.
11-09-2023 08:28:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: hmm.
11-09-2023 08:28:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: a quick google suggests it's related to the win-10 upgrador.
11-09-2023 08:28:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: miiiiight have been fucked up as part of the efforts required to block that.
11-09-2023 08:29:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Same as what I found.
11-09-2023 08:29:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: lemme go see if I can sort that out.
11-09-2023 08:30:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: I could also try and dropbox you the 25mb folder with a lot more files.  I'd have to rewrite a bit of how the program works to make it reasonably usable, but I know how to.
11-09-2023 08:30:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: lemme check this first.
11-09-2023 08:30:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: kk
11-09-2023 08:32:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Testing if the script works in python 3.8, which is the last win7 compatible version
11-09-2023 08:33:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: at least windows has decent documentation.
11-09-2023 08:37:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: okay, I'm missing it and it isn't anywhere.  So it's probably a .dll added through python.
11-09-2023 08:37:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: ..lemme check if the python package has that one.
11-09-2023 08:38:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Seems it doesn't work on 3.8 >.<
11-09-2023 08:39:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Not entirely sure, I'm having to figure out how to force it to use 3.8 instead of 3.10 (what I'm actually using).
11-09-2023 08:40:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: nope, not added in python.  If I'd just diasabled it I wouldn't have scrubbed it from the registry, I would have made a smaller change so I'd know about it.
11-09-2023 08:40:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: ...Actually, yes, probably my mistake.
11-09-2023 08:41:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: It works through 3.8's IDLE GUI
11-09-2023 08:41:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: So it should work if 3.8 is the default version used to run the script.  I just don't know how to force that correctly.
11-09-2023 08:41:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Bar uninstalling 3.10, and hehe, I'm not doing that.
11-09-2023 08:42:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: well, I can try installing 3.8, and see if it works.
11-09-2023 08:42:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Yeah.
11-09-2023 08:42:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Sorry for the annoyance of this
11-09-2023 08:42:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: C++ would just work if I used it.  But python's what I'm used to.
11-09-2023 08:44:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Nah, it's fine.
11-09-2023 08:44:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I haven't spent as much time on this as I did doing one K-com update.
11-09-2023 08:45:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: latest update's a tarball, so going back to the last executable.
11-09-2023 08:45:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I'm not in the mood to do that properly right now.
11-09-2023 08:46:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: replacing and taking ownership of a .dll is about the limit right now. and I still have a lovely add-on that lets me do that from a right-click context menu.
11-09-2023 08:46:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: and python installed.
11-09-2023 08:47:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Running the non-executable you sent me yesterady.
11-09-2023 08:47:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: it runs!
11-09-2023 08:47:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Yay!
11-09-2023 08:48:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: I haven't made any update since what I sent you
11-09-2023 08:48:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Still just has tired/untired and HP/MP modification.  Very minimal.
11-09-2023 08:48:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: yeah, looking at it.
11-09-2023 08:49:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I see what you're doing, it just modifies the imported.
11-09-2023 08:49:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Yup.
11-09-2023 08:49:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: You mind having a command to import a new set of text?
11-09-2023 08:49:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: so I'm not overwriting itself?
11-09-2023 08:49:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: like I copy it, hit import, so the import file is copied to the active one?
11-09-2023 08:50:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Nope, should be fine to do, though precisely what it does with the new set is complex to implement.
11-09-2023 08:50:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: yeah, just thinking.  I might hit something by mistake.
11-09-2023 08:50:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: lemme play with it for a minute.
11-09-2023 08:51:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Yeah.  It doesn't save anything until you enter export.
11-09-2023 08:51:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: ahh, ok.
11-09-2023 08:51:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: that's fine then.
11-09-2023 08:51:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: don't need that.
11-09-2023 08:52:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: I'll add an undo function next, which just saves one level of memory.  So you can undo your most recent command only.
11-09-2023 08:52:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Nah, I wouldn't do that, actually.
11-09-2023 08:52:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Don't need it.  What would be better is having it print out the current active character.
11-09-2023 08:52:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: a command to do that, and put it up in the window, would be great.
11-09-2023 08:53:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I can undo by doing the opposite command.
11-09-2023 08:54:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Ahh, so select character -> show sheet in console.  Any commands typed apply to character, updating the shown sheet after?
11-09-2023 08:54:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: nah, it's fine to leave it as is with 'character selected'
11-09-2023 08:54:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: but I want a command to show it, so I can see it without clicking on another file.
11-09-2023 08:55:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: you know, double-check that it's okay.
11-09-2023 08:55:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Okay, that's very simple.
11-09-2023 08:55:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: yeah, just saves time.
11-09-2023 08:55:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Same format of initial->command fine?
11-09-2023 08:55:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Other than that, it looks pretty good right now.  Not finished, but it works.  Just need to add stuff.
11-09-2023 08:56:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Like "Ssheet" to show Sessha sheet
11-09-2023 08:56:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I'd just have 'sheet' show the selected characters sheet.
11-09-2023 08:56:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Currently it has no memory of character selection, though I can change that.  It's a bit stupidly hardcoded.
11-09-2023 08:57:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Yeah, tried it out a bit.  Seems pretty good.  I'm sure bugs will show up, but I didn't find any yet.  ;-p
11-09-2023 08:57:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: ^-^
11-09-2023 08:57:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: ahh, found a bug.  ;-p
11-09-2023 08:58:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: 'p' to select party.  Then do tired.
11-09-2023 08:58:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Ohhh, you mean how >p and then >tired will select Trence?
11-09-2023 08:59:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: yes.
11-09-2023 08:59:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I mean, it says to do 'ptired' for that
11-09-2023 08:59:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: but I'd rather do it character-by-character.
11-09-2023 08:59:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: that's usually how I do damage, since the characters have different defenses.
11-09-2023 09:00:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Yeah, that's the stupid hardcoding.  It reads the first char to figure out who you selected.  And it says "X selected..." based off that before running through actual commands.
11-09-2023 09:00:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: it's good to implement healing, though.
11-09-2023 09:00:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: party healing will happen all the time.
11-09-2023 09:00:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: now, will it go over the cap?  ;-p
11-09-2023 09:01:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: >tired alone shouldn't actually do anything, it checks to make sure the command is in the format of Initial + tired.
11-09-2023 09:01:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: The intended way is to type Ttired
11-09-2023 09:01:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: (everything is case insensitive btw)
11-09-2023 09:01:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: mmm.
11-09-2023 09:02:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: instead of using healhp and healmp as commands, I'd rather use different verbs.
11-09-2023 09:02:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I suppose I could change those myself..
11-09-2023 09:02:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Sure.  Keywords are trivial to change.
11-09-2023 09:02:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: heal / harm / charge / drain
11-09-2023 09:02:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Might as well have me change it, so it's preserve in any updates
11-09-2023 09:03:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: sure, sure.
11-09-2023 09:03:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I'll try not to be too picky, but doing damage is common and I'd like to save characters.
11-09-2023 09:04:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Just those words, so it would be >Pheal80?
11-09-2023 09:04:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: healhp also double-taps an h, so it's a little slow to type.
11-09-2023 09:04:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: pheal80
11-09-2023 09:04:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: yup
11-09-2023 09:04:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: sounds good.
11-09-2023 09:05:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Ah, it'll break if you change those manually, fyi.  It's doing silly things with character counting.
11-09-2023 09:05:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: welp.  ;-p
11-09-2023 09:05:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: also, hah, the two health commands are 4 letters and the two mana commands are five.  ;-p
11-09-2023 09:06:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Yeah
11-09-2023 09:07:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: It counts to make sure the entire command is at least 8 characters long, and reads values from position 8 onwards for numbers.
11-09-2023 09:08:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Otherwise, ">ThealHP" alone crashes it.  There's more proper ways to check if an operation is possible, but this was how I knew I could do it, and I was getting tired by the time I wrote those.  >.>
11-09-2023 09:09:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: ...And I think I implemented that incorrectly anyways.  Oops.
11-09-2023 09:09:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: hah.
11-09-2023 09:09:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: well, that's all that comes to mind right now.
11-09-2023 09:10:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I'll try to be more careful with the formatting once it's closer to ready.
11-09-2023 09:11:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Okay!
11-09-2023 09:17:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: and dragons.
11-09-2023 09:18:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: lemme know when you want me to list abilities for dragon forms.
11-09-2023 09:18:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: When I get to implementing it.  ;P
11-09-2023 09:19:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: I'll try and update it today to add a show sheet command, and changed HP/MP keywords.  And clean up the command parser a bit.
11-09-2023 09:19:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Later though
11-09-2023 09:20:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: kk
11-09-2023 09:20:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: I'm going to have to formally name all the forms, aren't I?
11-09-2023 09:21:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Everything in programming needs precise definitions for names
11-09-2023 09:21:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: I can be sure to code the names so they're more trivial to change though
11-09-2023 09:22:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Yes, just going over it in my head.
11-09-2023 09:22:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: can follow a couple rules, though.
11-09-2023 09:22:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: all one-element forms are "X Whelp"
11-09-2023 09:22:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: ;-p
11-09-2023 09:22:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Hmm
11-09-2023 09:23:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: anything with a tier-two form is "X Dragon"
11-09-2023 09:23:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Combination forms, though?
11-09-2023 09:24:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Yeah, might just resort to just putting the words in order to keep it simple.
11-09-2023 09:24:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: ...Combination forms might be a headache for the sheer number of possible sets.  Hmm.
11-09-2023 09:24:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: if I had unlimited time and it was an actual commercial game I'd bite the bullet and name everything.
11-09-2023 09:24:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: but putting the words in order should do.
11-09-2023 09:24:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: although maybe just the six names for the six three-element sets and one name for the nature/poison combo.  Gah.
11-09-2023 09:25:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: too complicated!
11-09-2023 09:25:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: I can have it scan a command for any instance of a keyword, so it could parse ">transform fire cold max" and ">transform cold max fire" identically.
11-09-2023 09:25:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: ...And then maybe just have a text file for every case?
11-09-2023 09:25:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: A folder of dragon forms, which contain the actual data to insert.
11-09-2023 09:26:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: every case is 8*7*6 + 8*7 for the elementals alone.
11-09-2023 09:26:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Yeah >.>
11-09-2023 09:26:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Hrm.
11-09-2023 09:26:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: that's 392 cases.
11-09-2023 09:26:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Plus stage two forms.
11-09-2023 09:27:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Plus the threes.
11-09-2023 09:27:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Then I'll need to code stuff like Attack dragon increasing all instances of attacks by another +
11-09-2023 09:27:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: That would be something I'd want automatic.
11-09-2023 09:28:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: let me know if you want me to put markers in the status bar between characters.
11-09-2023 09:28:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: ...Oh boy, actually, this is harder.  Because the dragons affect Trence's main sheet.
11-09-2023 09:28:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Renaming double slash
11-09-2023 09:28:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Yeah.  It's the tough part.
11-09-2023 09:28:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Yeaaah
11-09-2023 09:28:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: It's also a pain looking them up and remaking the sheet every time Trence turns into something. 
11-09-2023 09:28:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: I'd imagine >.<
11-09-2023 09:28:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: and you know, being a game about doing that, he does it a lot.
11-09-2023 09:28:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Making it automatic is already complex
11-09-2023 09:29:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: (It's not too bad.  I use some keywords to help with the forum search function.)
11-09-2023 09:29:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: That probably will need some additional markup in the sheets to handle it.
11-09-2023 09:29:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Ther'es also a few key updates where I've deliberately used specific words to make them easier to find.
11-09-2023 09:30:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: ...Yeah, I think I'll want the full list of dragons you want automatic, so I can organize the list of things they affect, and how.
11-09-2023 09:30:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Absolutely.  Let me know when you want that.
11-09-2023 09:30:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: And then I'd want to redesign the sheet some to put in markup for the program to parse.
11-09-2023 09:30:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: Just let me know.
11-09-2023 09:31:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: that's perfectly fine.
11-09-2023 09:32:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: Whenever, really.  I'll do the sheet and parser changes today, and then I won't have anything particularly in mind.  I'd want to have the dragons earlier than you want me to code this, because it'll definitely be a thing where I turn it over in my head for a while before making it.
11-09-2023 09:32:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.qyg.pvt: This kinda puzzle is something I love, but I have to be in the right mood for, honestly.
11-09-2023 09:33:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwyt:qlqm:xgmw:skhh:mpus: kk, well, whenever you're up for it.
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