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09-09-2023 00:24:33 < MJ!mj@9293-7962-2121-02nn-19xc-7o9o-5364-23i9.res6.spectrum.com: hiya Egan
09-09-2023 00:28:05 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ysy:mugz:tins:sln:iziz: heyo
09-09-2023 00:29:21 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ysy:mugz:tins:sln:iziz: wassuuuuuup?
09-09-2023 00:35:04 < MJ!mj@9293-7962-2121-02nn-19xc-7o9o-5364-23i9.res6.spectrum.com: studying
09-09-2023 01:00:45 < MJ!mj@9293-7962-2121-02nn-19xc-7o9o-5364-23i9.res6.spectrum.com: I've come to slowly hate hematology because like half of it is just like a shrug and going yeah we don't really know how this works but heres a fancy word so it sounds like we know how it works
09-09-2023 01:01:56 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ysy:mugz:tins:sln:iziz: blood wizardy, yes
09-09-2023 01:02:13 < MJ!mj@9293-7962-2121-02nn-19xc-7o9o-5364-23i9.res6.spectrum.com: It really is
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09-09-2023 02:46:47 -!- Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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09-09-2023 03:35:10 < MJ!mj@9293-7962-2121-02nn-19xc-7o9o-5364-23i9.res6.spectrum.com: goodnight
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09-09-2023 04:31:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Sorry, steam's began fucking with my IRC now.
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09-09-2023 05:18:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Oktoberfest in DRG soon
09-09-2023 05:21:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: hey syv.
09-09-2023 05:21:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: lemme know when you want to play it.
09-09-2023 05:21:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Oh, you had some questions yesterday?  Steam messed up my IRC and I lost them before replying.
09-09-2023 05:21:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: something about the fish?
09-09-2023 05:21:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Ah yeah
09-09-2023 05:22:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Could we fix the degraded drops?
09-09-2023 05:22:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: +3 stuff seems like vendor trash for us
09-09-2023 05:22:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: The elemental boons might be nice... but only in very specific places
09-09-2023 05:22:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: It'll be dependant on the item.
09-09-2023 05:22:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: I'll roll for it when you find someone who can try.
09-09-2023 05:23:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: succeed, you can upgrade something, fail, you get vendor trash.  For good cash.
09-09-2023 05:23:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Hrm.
09-09-2023 05:23:38 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: money is nice
09-09-2023 05:23:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Didn't want to duplicate the stuff straight out, or it'd be a bad thing for worldbuilding.  There'd be too much top tier stuff going around if it was like that.  Duplicates of artifacts and such.
09-09-2023 05:23:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: The fish could regenerate the fake megalixers, but on a daily basis not a per-fight basis.
09-09-2023 05:24:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: if it had any left you would have gotten normal elixers.
09-09-2023 05:24:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Yeah, logical.
09-09-2023 05:24:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: ...How good are normal elixirs?
09-09-2023 05:24:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Combined potion + mana potion?
09-09-2023 05:24:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: they're expensive.
09-09-2023 05:24:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: they're more like combined high potions + mana potions.
09-09-2023 05:24:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: full recovery for both HP and MP.
09-09-2023 05:24:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: They dont' refresh from bad status, though, like megalixers.
09-09-2023 05:25:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: That would have been nice
09-09-2023 05:25:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: ...Also, we need status cures
09-09-2023 05:25:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Yup.  I'll have to check their prices.
09-09-2023 05:25:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: if they're the same as mana potions ore a bit more expensive.
09-09-2023 05:26:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: I do know if you sell elixers they'll be worth at least one upgrade each.
09-09-2023 05:26:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: If that fish had debuffs we would've been screwed
09-09-2023 05:26:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Yup.
09-09-2023 05:27:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: oh, and the ruling for the future is buff spells now last five turns before wearing off.
09-09-2023 05:28:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: For Sessha's debuff poisons, if she doesn't re-apply it in a certain turn, creatures will get two rolls to remove up to two individual minuses, starting with the one that's lowest.  These rolls are based on status resistance.
09-09-2023 05:29:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: do note that each success only removes one (-), and it starts with the worst, even if that's in an unimportant stat.  And if Sessha re-applies it with an attack, no saves are made.
09-09-2023 05:29:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: That should prolly be stated in thread
09-09-2023 05:30:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: That sounds like a negligible change to Sessha's poison
09-09-2023 05:30:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: More to track for you
09-09-2023 05:30:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: ...You might want to change how you track combats.
09-09-2023 05:31:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Give each round a turn number, and keep a separate spoiler with all buff effects, and the turns they end on
09-09-2023 05:31:36 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: I tried to send a ticket for my AC6 freeze but then their site wanted me to make an account...
09-09-2023 05:31:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Trying to remember "after four updates I need to remove buff X from these three characters, but not the fourth" sounds like a recipe for mistakes
09-09-2023 05:31:54 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: grumble grumble I bought the game why you make me jump hoop
09-09-2023 05:32:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Egan
09-09-2023 05:32:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: You bought a fromsoft game on release
09-09-2023 05:32:09 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: syv
09-09-2023 05:32:18 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: it WORKED on release
09-09-2023 05:32:21 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: they broke it
09-09-2023 05:32:24 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: or I did
09-09-2023 05:32:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: For some people.  Sometimes.
09-09-2023 05:33:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: I haven't decided on the number 100%, so I won't write it down until the next serious boss fight.
09-09-2023 05:33:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: might change my mind before then.
09-09-2023 05:33:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: I'll track it the same way as I do healing aura.  I'm sure I'll make some mistakes, though.
09-09-2023 05:35:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Mmm
09-09-2023 05:36:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: I should look at the status generator, bleh
09-09-2023 05:36:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: I don't want to.  Not in the mood for code.
09-09-2023 05:36:38 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: my brain is telling me to make a holegame because PW is too weak to do it for me
09-09-2023 05:38:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: No werewolf or column ghost?
09-09-2023 05:38:42 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: colum?
09-09-2023 05:39:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Ask Piecewise to give you his system
09-09-2023 05:39:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: or OL?
09-09-2023 05:39:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: He probably has like 80% of a book written
09-09-2023 05:39:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Message him on Steam
09-09-2023 05:39:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: the one that got fried and linked up with elves.
09-09-2023 05:40:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: But if you do make your own, please implement the mechanic of descending into the hole always giving you bonus to any actions you take.
09-09-2023 05:40:55 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: gravity may ease travel but I don't think it would help with the sudden stop at the end
09-09-2023 05:42:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: No, no, the idea is that MiA is about this evil hole making people want to descend deeper, and having all kinds of little tricks and stuff to lure you deeper.  So you build that into the system; most actions can get a bonus if you willingly descend during them, to have a constant incentive for players to descend.
09-09-2023 05:42:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: And it also means going down the hole is always notably easier than going back up.
09-09-2023 05:43:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: So it mechanically dovetails perfectly with the lore
09-09-2023 05:43:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: It shouldn't scale, particularly, so diving into the hole until you hit the bottom doesn't give you +200 to a roll or something stupid.
09-09-2023 05:44:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Unless you WANT that to be a mechanic, and allow people to make "wishes" by sacrificing themselves to the hole.  :P
09-09-2023 05:44:54 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: in roadside picnic style, the wish is just getting to the bottom in one piece
09-09-2023 05:46:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Reasonable
09-09-2023 05:47:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Nik messaged me randomly yesterday, talking about how it would be really cool to see a game with combined arms-esque infantry differentiation, specifically talking about how maybe powered armor could revive anti materiel rifles and therefore you could have armored/unarmored infantry specialized with anti armor/light weapons.  And I basically said "yes, that is a fundamental part of the gun game I've been working on for year
09-09-2023 05:47:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: I'm still confused at how the ascending curse takes a stopoff at 'turn into furry' after a certain depth.
09-09-2023 05:47:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: And he asked me to invite him next time I do a test
09-09-2023 05:47:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: I think it damages your humanity, Dev.
09-09-2023 05:47:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Like you have a human stat.  Going up gives you -100 to that.
09-09-2023 05:48:13 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: become fuzzy blorbo
09-09-2023 05:51:34 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: ascending being punishing might not gel perfectly with building a town up top?
09-09-2023 05:51:57 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:mjl:vgki:hqsh:psuu:lqtw: or only works up to the point an average character fails to make it back
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09-09-2023 05:53:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Yeah, ascent curse shouldn't be "kills you" or "curses you forever"
09-09-2023 05:53:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: It should just be "penalizes you"
09-09-2023 05:55:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Could make it more akin to decompression sickness, like with diving.  *Rapid* ascent is lethal, but you can rise slowly (or take breaks periodically) to acclimate and deal with it.
09-09-2023 05:55:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: ...That's probably the original inspiration, actually.
09-09-2023 05:55:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: maybe it can be curses but only on loewr levels, like say four or five.
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09-09-2023 05:55:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: maybe it can be curses but only on loewr levels, like say four or five.
09-09-2023 05:55:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Logs, Egan
09-09-2023 05:55:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Ehh.
09-09-2023 05:55:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: That's tantamount to punishing a player for playing the game.
09-09-2023 05:56:09 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: logs!
09-09-2023 05:56:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: You'd have to have serious rewards for going down into L4/5 to balance out permanent curses.
09-09-2023 05:56:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Yup.  I'd probably do two things.
09-09-2023 05:56:52 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: if you go past the point of no return it becomes a PM game because the other players don't know what's going to happen to you down there :3
09-09-2023 05:56:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: you also get a temporary buff that lasts the duration of a drive, and get access to a bunch of stuff.
09-09-2023 05:57:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: so the rewards are very nice, but you take a permanent injury.
09-09-2023 05:57:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Maybe.
09-09-2023 05:57:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: past the point of no return all injuries are lifted, but the character is retired.
09-09-2023 05:57:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: next character starts with an extra level.
09-09-2023 05:57:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: I like decompression sickness style.  Make it so that the only way to safely decompress is to rest at a base, and of course you start with only one base at the top.
09-09-2023 05:58:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: That gives incentive to make more bases deep below, giving the overall game a progression of building up.
09-09-2023 05:58:16 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: though I guess in roadside picnic characters do manage to reach the wish device and get back out, or else nobody would know about it?
09-09-2023 05:58:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Yes
09-09-2023 05:58:38 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: or of course making a wish can have a visible effect on the outside
09-09-2023 05:58:56 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: and could be recorded in ruins and such
09-09-2023 05:59:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Roadside Picnic is structurally different, really.  There's a set of hazards, and if you know how to deal with or avoid them, you're fine, you can go wherever.
09-09-2023 05:59:42 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: weird, but predictable
09-09-2023 06:00:04 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: but maybe too weird for most people to really predict without a LOT of preparation
09-09-2023 06:00:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: The final stalk is with a complete amateur, after all.  A talented one, but inexperienced.  He only survives to the end because he has the best veteran there as a tour guide.
09-09-2023 06:00:20 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: MiA is still like, alive down there
09-09-2023 06:00:36 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: evolving
09-09-2023 06:01:14 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: while the Zone is kinda past being an ecosystem, it's truly incomprehensible
09-09-2023 06:01:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: ...It's also much lower tier weirdness, as well.  The terrible obstacle that blocks access to the wish granter... is a twisty trap that kills whatever creature enters it, and takes a few minutes to recharge.
09-09-2023 06:01:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: And most of the hazards in the zone aren't all that lethal.  You can survive a lot of mistakes.
09-09-2023 06:02:06 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: It's implied that humans don't REALLY know what all that stuff is for
09-09-2023 06:02:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: And yes.  Yes.
09-09-2023 06:02:45 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: I guess it's not that lethal because it's not designed to be lethal
09-09-2023 06:03:03 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: if whoever put that stuff there WANTED to kill humans, they... would have
09-09-2023 06:03:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Yeah
09-09-2023 06:03:57 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: anyways, I like the idea of bases to rest at making ascent more safe
09-09-2023 06:04:18 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: probably can be possible to rest without that, but dangerous
09-09-2023 06:04:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Now to make a good system which you can easily run, and maintain the game for five years with regular updates the whole time.
09-09-2023 06:05:02 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: nod nod
09-09-2023 06:05:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: No resting without a base.
09-09-2023 06:05:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Gives way to power creep way too easily.
09-09-2023 06:05:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Some player finds a good, relatively safe hole, and brings down a cartload of food plus a door.
09-09-2023 06:06:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Then calls it a base.
09-09-2023 06:06:24 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: well, then it would be a base
09-09-2023 06:06:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Then they just start doing that on every expedition, because holes are common and doors aren't too heavy.
09-09-2023 06:06:33 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: if it is in fact safe enough
09-09-2023 06:06:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: And now players have logiced out a way to ignore a mechanic.
09-09-2023 06:06:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: hmm.
09-09-2023 06:07:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: You make it a hard rule.  Making a base requires X, which you control.
09-09-2023 06:07:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: since the big issues of the upper levels were disorientation, ameks me wonder why they didn't build an elevator or something.
09-09-2023 06:07:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: ...They did?
09-09-2023 06:07:19 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: but I think bases require personnel and thus defenses and an ability to send supplies
09-09-2023 06:07:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: so the people ascending don't need to actually do anything.
09-09-2023 06:07:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: There's literally an elevator in the show
09-09-2023 06:07:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Didn't seem to.  They spend the first two layers walking down and up.
09-09-2023 06:07:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: That's because the show focuses on trainees who aren't allowed to delve past the first layer.
09-09-2023 06:08:12 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: they were under the radar so avoided the built-up way
09-09-2023 06:08:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: We literally see multiple shots of delvers coming up an elevator.
09-09-2023 06:08:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Mmm, might need to watch the early shows again.
09-09-2023 06:08:53 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: and also had OP videogame grappling hook powers so they didn't need it
09-09-2023 06:14:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: I'll never look at OP videogame grappling hook powers the same again.
09-09-2023 06:15:00 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: the g forces would rip you in half
09-09-2023 06:16:01 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: in just cause 2 since it's a magical "travel in a straight line to this surface" device you can fall from the sky and then grapple yourself DOWNWARD INTO THE DIRT to cancel falling damage
09-09-2023 06:16:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Deep Rock Galactic.
09-09-2023 06:16:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Dwarves suffer serious falling damage but can be orbital dropped.
09-09-2023 06:16:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Masterwork Chairs.
09-09-2023 06:17:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Scout can cancel falling damage by grappling the floor
09-09-2023 06:17:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Or by having a shotgun/sniper rifle with the correct overclock
09-09-2023 06:22:51 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: good news: changing to windowed mode made my graphics driver bug out and go to safe mode... which makes it not freeze!
09-09-2023 06:23:01 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: bad news: it runs too bad to play like this
09-09-2023 06:23:10 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:xqz:gmtg:vyvr:ukvg:uhps: or, technically playable
09-09-2023 06:24:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: woob.
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09-09-2023 06:35:43 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: sorry to keep bouncing
09-09-2023 06:36:00 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: glad I have an SSD to make reloading windows fast
09-09-2023 06:36:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: yeah.
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09-09-2023 06:39:30 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: well, that's... fucked in a different way?
09-09-2023 06:39:51 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: opens to black screen
09-09-2023 06:40:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: From Software!
09-09-2023 06:40:06 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: and then I just can't go anywhere else :v
09-09-2023 06:40:40 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: like alt tab works to shift focus but over top of everything is a black screen
09-09-2023 06:40:59 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: so I logged out to close everything, not an actual restart that time!
09-09-2023 06:41:31 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: maybe I shouldn't have set it to true full screen
09-09-2023 06:41:54 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: oh, it doesn't launch because it thinks it's already running
09-09-2023 06:42:56 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: fucked!
09-09-2023 06:43:04 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wov:gvyh:wjlp:zghi:xmtu: alright seeya in a second
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09-09-2023 06:44:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ysy:nsuj:ppoz:glji:ukqj: WEH
09-09-2023 06:45:10 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ysy:nsuj:ppoz:glji:ukqj: alright, what if I try running elden ring seamless co-op mod? that's basically elden ring without EAC
09-09-2023 06:45:17 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ysy:nsuj:ppoz:glji:ukqj: EAC might be screwing me
09-09-2023 06:46:24 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:ysy:nsuj:ppoz:glji:ukqj: oh it... c-crashes immediately?
09-09-2023 06:50:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: welp.
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09-09-2023 07:01:40 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wjl:shrq:ngow:oitt:hojw: *screaming*
09-09-2023 07:02:11 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wjl:shrq:ngow:oitt:hojw: it still doesn't work but the difference is that now it breaks even sooner
09-09-2023 07:02:28 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:wjl:shrq:ngow:oitt:hojw: before I could get in and change the settings if I was quick with it
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09-09-2023 07:07:42 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: huh I had my monitor plugged into my motherboard and not my graphics card
09-09-2023 07:07:59 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: must have unplugged everything and then plugged it into the wrong slot?
09-09-2023 07:08:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: hah.
09-09-2023 07:08:22 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: does this shit like, work now?
09-09-2023 07:09:08 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: when did I do that WHEN DID I DO THAT
09-09-2023 07:09:26 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: what the fuuuuuck
09-09-2023 07:09:33 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: I'm an idiot!
09-09-2023 07:09:37 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: it works!
09-09-2023 07:10:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Hah.
09-09-2023 07:11:01 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: utterly owned by my own-damn-self
09-09-2023 07:19:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Hahaha...
09-09-2023 07:19:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Well, at least it's fixed
09-09-2023 07:29:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: AoTTG 2 is having another SNAFU
09-09-2023 07:30:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Company that licenses the server software we used decided to change the rates from "free" to "380$/month".
09-09-2023 07:30:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: So now Ricecake is trying to crack the server DRM.
09-09-2023 07:31:45 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: huh
09-09-2023 07:32:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: And other modders are just stealing actual company's servers in the meantime
09-09-2023 07:32:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: From VRChat or something, they're not saying who actually owns the servers.
09-09-2023 07:33:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Welp.
09-09-2023 09:10:01 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: you know that one boss which was giving me a bunch of trouble well I beat it first try using dual miniguns and the songbirds cannon on left shoulder
09-09-2023 09:10:10 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: I guess you just need more gun
09-09-2023 09:51:26 < * Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx hugs syv
09-09-2023 11:44:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 12d12
09-09-2023 11:44:08 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 12d12: 12 4 2 9 4 6 4 11 12 5 3 10  <Total: 82>
09-09-2023 11:44:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: 4+ on 10 rolls.
09-09-2023 11:44:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: one 11, so you find 5.5 upgrades worth of outright cash.
09-09-2023 11:44:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 2d12
09-09-2023 11:44:57 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 2d12: 2 3  <Total: 5>
09-09-2023 11:50:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Sea fittings.
09-09-2023 11:51:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: need 8+
09-09-2023 11:51:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 12d12
09-09-2023 11:51:04 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 12d12: 9 9 1 9 2 8 9 7 6 12 5 3  <Total: 80>
09-09-2023 11:51:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: 6 successes, one 12.
09-09-2023 11:51:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 1d12
09-09-2023 11:51:15 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 1d12: 3  <Total: 3>
09-09-2023 12:01:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Cargo, need 12+ 4+
09-09-2023 12:01:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 12d12
09-09-2023 12:01:31 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 12d12: 12 12 8 12 11 6 5 3 10 3 7 8  <Total: 97>
09-09-2023 12:01:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: two 12s.
09-09-2023 12:01:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 2d12
09-09-2023 12:01:39 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 2d12: 12 1  <Total: 13>
09-09-2023 12:01:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: ooh.
09-09-2023 12:01:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: 12/12 means gear.
09-09-2023 12:02:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Relevance, then power.
09-09-2023 12:02:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 1d12
09-09-2023 12:02:13 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 1d12: 9  <Total: 9>
09-09-2023 12:02:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 1d12
09-09-2023 12:02:16 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 1d12: 12  <Total: 12>
09-09-2023 12:02:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 1d12
09-09-2023 12:02:20 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 1d12: 12  <Total: 12>
09-09-2023 12:02:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 1d12
09-09-2023 12:02:24 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 1d12: 3  <Total: 3>
09-09-2023 12:02:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: Okay.
09-09-2023 12:02:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: syv.
09-09-2023 12:02:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: you wanted something that isn't vendor trash?
09-09-2023 12:03:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: also, there were 3 12s, not 2.
09-09-2023 12:03:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:vwjj:nwvy:zmmz:jwyk:qgkp: `roll 1d12
09-09-2023 12:03:16 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 1d12: 10  <Total: 10>
09-09-2023 12:50:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: Hrm.
09-09-2023 12:51:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbidnu-494-455-915-73.mycingular.net: No, I don't understand the rolling pattern.
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09-09-2023 16:28:01 < Egan!Egan@2600:1700:4f01:txo:tykm:mpqw:lnug:kyvx: hmm, how do you figure out that a cask is full of tar when it's sealed and at the bottom of the ocean? you pick it up and it says "cask so tar"? :p
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