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28-03-2023 07:10:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: 'lo
28-03-2023 07:23:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: 'lo
28-03-2023 07:23:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: How is the local Canadian?
28-03-2023 07:27:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: jOkay.
28-03-2023 07:27:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Snow wasn't good for skiing.
28-03-2023 07:27:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: it was all rotten.
28-03-2023 07:28:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: too soft to hold me up well while not being nice powder for low resistance.  Worst of both worlds.
28-03-2023 07:28:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Plus the gear is all inherited and mismatched, so that didn't help any.
28-03-2023 07:37:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Aw, that sucks
28-03-2023 07:37:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: I'm sorry
28-03-2023 07:37:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Will you have more opportunities?
28-03-2023 07:46:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Next year.  Or I could rent a set and hit the actual slopes.
28-03-2023 07:46:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Truth is I need my own set and I think I'll buy it next year.
28-03-2023 07:46:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: neet boots that fit properly and some modern skis.
28-03-2023 07:46:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: much better stuff.
28-03-2023 07:46:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Also, updated extinction, syv.
28-03-2023 07:49:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Unfortunate.
28-03-2023 07:51:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: It's fine, skiing is incredibly exhausting.
28-03-2023 07:51:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: It exists because 'trudging through snow' is absurdly hard.
28-03-2023 07:51:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: And also because it's fun :v
28-03-2023 07:52:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: yeah.
28-03-2023 07:53:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: ahh, missed one.
28-03-2023 07:54:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: eh.
28-03-2023 07:54:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: doubt you'll want it anyway.
28-03-2023 07:54:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: you found a hidden ruin from an old map after the seige.
28-03-2023 08:00:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Might check it!
28-03-2023 08:01:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Could we learn to dual wield shortswords?  :3
28-03-2023 08:01:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: That sounds like an advanced skill.
28-03-2023 08:01:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Not saying a hard no, but Sessha doesn't do that.
28-03-2023 08:02:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Thinking something like a skill that gives you an additional + if you have two identical shortswords.
28-03-2023 08:02:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: It sounds like a decent synergy for Trence's general multihit build
28-03-2023 08:02:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: (which of course, would combine with blade dragon)
28-03-2023 08:02:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Though finding a second black blade shortsword would be... unlikely.
28-03-2023 08:03:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Maybe we could get a spell to summon a copy?
28-03-2023 08:04:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: ...Also, does Sessha dual wield daggers?
28-03-2023 08:04:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Considering it isn't super amazing you might be able to get the raw material.
28-03-2023 08:04:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: I always visualized that
28-03-2023 08:04:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Not as such.  She's ambidextrous, but doesn't have a skill that actually gives it in-game effects.
28-03-2023 08:04:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: ...Would we be able to do that?
28-03-2023 08:04:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Just give her dual wielding, free +
28-03-2023 08:05:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Well, not free, but relatively easily.
28-03-2023 08:05:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: I'll say yes, but you'll need to do without her for a bit.
28-03-2023 08:05:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: she doesn't learn so quickly anymore.
28-03-2023 08:05:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Ahh.  Interesting.
28-03-2023 08:06:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Reasonable.  Giving our assassin a passive + would be a good investment, I think.
28-03-2023 08:07:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Willis and Trence get stuff for visiting elemental shrines, but did Sessha?  I forget.
28-03-2023 08:07:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Also, the black blade is still pretty good IMO.  It's not a strict upgrade over the spear, but the spear isn't a strict upgrade either.  Unless the mana drain sucks.
28-03-2023 08:07:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Do we know how much it drains, now that we've tested it?
28-03-2023 08:08:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: mmm.
28-03-2023 08:08:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Do note, 'drain' doesn't mean 'gives Trence mana'
28-03-2023 08:08:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: it takes mana from the opponent.
28-03-2023 08:08:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: about ten-ish.
28-03-2023 08:09:06 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi blinks
28-03-2023 08:10:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: but it powers the effect.
28-03-2023 08:10:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: it doesn't go to Trence.
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28-03-2023 08:13:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: but it powers the effect.
28-03-2023 08:13:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Yep, didn't specify that the drain isn't a mana restore.
28-03-2023 08:13:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: it doesn't go to Trence.
28-03-2023 08:14:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: yeah, gonna describe it as 'mana burning' instead.
28-03-2023 08:14:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: so it's more clear.
28-03-2023 08:14:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: I'm going to blame Oblivion.  In Oblivion, "Magicka Damage" just reduces the enemy's magic.  "Magicka Drain" steals it for you.
28-03-2023 08:14:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: And ever since then I've just seen drain as that mechanism.
28-03-2023 08:15:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: I would not have bought it even if it were 100% an honest deal, if I knew that.
28-03-2023 08:15:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: The entire reason I was interested was the mana restore...
28-03-2023 08:16:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Does Arngrim's shield drain not give him a mana restore?
28-03-2023 08:16:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Nope.
28-03-2023 08:16:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Well, that's good news I guess.
28-03-2023 08:17:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: The only person who might have a spell like that is Dorren.
28-03-2023 08:17:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: but I don't think so.
28-03-2023 08:18:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Yeah, god, this is comparable to turning into a dragon.
28-03-2023 08:19:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: manadrain on Trence would be a real game changer, yeah.
28-03-2023 08:19:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Blade alone is 10 mana with 2 upkeep, and gives us a +1 upgrade and a passive + to all attacks
28-03-2023 08:20:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: And the black blade only works if the enemy has mana *to* drain
28-03-2023 08:21:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: which is most enemies.
28-03-2023 08:23:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: It also stops working if it depletes their mana
28-03-2023 08:23:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Dragon stops working if Trence depletes his own mana, yes.
28-03-2023 08:23:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: But gos
28-03-2023 08:24:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Does using that Farflame accessory work as a free action?  It should.
28-03-2023 08:25:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Otherwise it's just a really shitty mana potion that consumes an accessory slot
28-03-2023 08:25:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: It is.
28-03-2023 08:25:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: and it doesn't consume an accessory slot.
28-03-2023 08:25:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: You can equip it as one.
28-03-2023 08:25:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: but that bit doesn't seem to do anything.
28-03-2023 08:25:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Oh, that's nice then
28-03-2023 08:27:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Irony got it.
28-03-2023 08:27:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: "Consumable item that you'll never use"
28-03-2023 08:36:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Yes.
28-03-2023 08:36:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Perfect description.
28-03-2023 08:37:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Though Extinction conveniently has a very definite final boss fight.
28-03-2023 08:37:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: We use the accessory during the 4S fight, easy.
28-03-2023 08:37:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Can Willis use it, instead of Trence?
28-03-2023 08:39:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: `2
28-03-2023 08:39:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Aw
28-03-2023 08:39:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Charged with dragon magic
28-03-2023 08:40:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: ...I'd like a god for Alice that works with a big summon.
28-03-2023 08:40:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: I think a big mana dump for a summon would work very well on her.
28-03-2023 08:41:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Summon has a lot going for it.  More hits for tanking Spar's doomsword, more action economy in general.
28-03-2023 08:42:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: hmm.
28-03-2023 08:42:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Though maybe we should research Spar's sword before planning too much.
28-03-2023 08:42:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: suggest it and I might come up with one
28-03-2023 08:44:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Dorren vs Alice seems like a good matchup from what we have so far.  Harrying him to keep him from using his utility.  But that's a straightforward "Trade our paladin's actions for their mage's actions", which isn't even guaranteed if he busts out some good damage+debuff spells.  Which he totally would have.
28-03-2023 08:45:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: What'd you call him?
28-03-2023 08:45:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: a batman wizard?
28-03-2023 08:45:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Yes.
28-03-2023 08:45:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Just assuming it works isn't ideal, and it still leaves us dealing with the other three using our other three team members.  Ideally we'd want to be able to shut down or significantly impair at least one of them *without* totally consuming one of our own unit's action economies.
28-03-2023 08:46:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Spar is OP and would certainly be an entire boss encounter alone.
28-03-2023 08:47:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Trence is OP too, and might be able to 1v1 her with whatever future buffs we get from researching the sword and the final dragonform... but even then I wouldn't feel safe checking Willis and Sessha against Arngrim and Carina.
28-03-2023 08:47:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: mmm.
28-03-2023 08:47:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: do note, you're 12th level now.
28-03-2023 08:48:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Willis in particular doesn't really slot into a slower bossfight.  He really, really wants to just burst them down, which I wouldn't feel safe relying on.
28-03-2023 08:48:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: they'll have fewer HP.
28-03-2023 08:48:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Yeah...
28-03-2023 08:49:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Carina is scary herself, too.  She seems the most likely one for us to be able to burst down.  And the highest value, beyond Spar.
28-03-2023 08:50:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: That line of logic leads toward giving Alice her own torrents of ardent pathos to use along with Willis' and Trence's.
28-03-2023 08:50:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: And bursting might be the only feasible choice against Spar in the end.
28-03-2023 08:50:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: fucking doomsword
28-03-2023 08:50:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: gotta find out how it works!
28-03-2023 08:50:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: yeah
28-03-2023 08:50:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: It's not truly a guaranteed instant kill.
28-03-2023 08:51:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: There are limits to it.
28-03-2023 08:51:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: There's death protection, yeah?
28-03-2023 08:51:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Yes.
28-03-2023 08:52:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: But what you said before was something like "it'd just be downgraded to dealing huge amounts of normal damage" against death protection.
28-03-2023 08:52:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Irony got a writeup of the encounter if Spar had to burn you out of the northern city.
28-03-2023 08:52:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: No, death protection alone it still kills you.
28-03-2023 08:52:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: There is a trick to it, though.
28-03-2023 08:53:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Only has four uses and then she has to recharge
28-03-2023 08:53:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Not that lucky.
28-03-2023 08:53:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: I could tell you.  It's not really that gamebreaking.
28-03-2023 08:53:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: it deals damage to her too and we have an easier time bursting her
28-03-2023 08:55:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: That's a question!
28-03-2023 08:56:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: I'll tell you if you ask, but no hints.
28-03-2023 08:56:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: We'll find out in Valterre
28-03-2023 08:56:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Yes.
28-03-2023 08:57:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: The four swords of Valterre.
28-03-2023 08:57:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: or the one sword.
28-03-2023 08:57:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: Want to do some quick dwarves?
28-03-2023 08:57:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: mm.
28-03-2023 08:57:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: Sure.
28-03-2023 08:57:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@129.222.zrm.hwi: That sounds wrong
28-03-2023 10:17:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:fac0:kuul:rhmj:gsoq:jqkn:tqoo: indeed.
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