28-09-2022 00:23:53 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: playing a half life 2 mod called Entropy: Zero 2
28-09-2022 00:24:06 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: very good quality
28-09-2022 01:13:15 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: good ending
28-09-2022 01:47:02 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: (by which I mean me, sy, and dev got in
28-09-2022 03:09:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: hello ER.
28-09-2022 03:10:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: I see we're in.
28-09-2022 03:10:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: and apparently I won the duel.
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28-09-2022 03:22:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Holy shit all three of us got in
28-09-2022 03:22:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Now time for the game to die, this is too good to be true!
28-09-2022 03:24:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: heyo.
28-09-2022 03:24:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: I see I won the duel with Irony.
28-09-2022 03:24:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: heyo.
28-09-2022 03:24:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Yeah, huh
28-09-2022 03:24:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: I wonder which three of us got in on the special choice
28-09-2022 03:25:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: There's four good sheets, with heavenly clerk in dead center, so it's not orderwd
28-09-2022 03:26:35 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q shrugs
28-09-2022 03:26:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: ER, you here?
28-09-2022 03:27:05 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: mhmj
28-09-2022 03:27:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Pinging MJ
28-09-2022 03:27:58 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: work tomorrow though
28-09-2022 03:30:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Aw v.v
28-09-2022 03:30:59 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: just having too much fun with this game
28-09-2022 03:31:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: What game?
28-09-2022 03:34:58 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1583720/Entropy__Zero_2/
28-09-2022 03:35:03 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: very well made HL2 mod
28-09-2022 03:38:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: MJ is talking to his bro v.v
28-09-2022 03:39:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: That the one who gets into some new trouble every week?
28-09-2022 03:43:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: He didn't actually specify
28-09-2022 03:43:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Mod looks cool
28-09-2022 03:57:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: I'm gonna take a nap.
28-09-2022 03:59:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Have fun~
28-09-2022 04:01:27 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: half life good
28-09-2022 04:01:46 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: the dev who makes that series should get into making games again
28-09-2022 04:10:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: I wonder if Valve's game devs just work with other companies
28-09-2022 04:10:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: If you have a full game studio of people, and then don't make games the vast majority of the time, I'd expect... you just lose a lot of employees.
28-09-2022 04:11:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Working on the steam client itself seems like a different discipline.
28-09-2022 04:11:20 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: well, I know they lost a few
28-09-2022 04:12:03 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: I think that they may have just gotten worse at making *complete games* at some point :v
28-09-2022 04:13:09 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: devs working on things a lot but never quite making something new
28-09-2022 04:16:33 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: bleb
28-09-2022 04:16:44 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: now I'm just loitering at computer for no reason
28-09-2022 04:16:52 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: syv gimmie headpats
28-09-2022 04:21:39 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q pats ER
28-09-2022 04:21:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Will you sleep?
28-09-2022 04:21:55 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: yes yes
28-09-2022 04:22:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: I watched the Hunter audiolog
28-09-2022 04:22:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Bruva is fantastic at coming up with good characters
28-09-2022 04:22:54 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: insane weeb gremlin
28-09-2022 04:23:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Yeah
28-09-2022 04:23:10 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: without being extremely annoying
28-09-2022 04:23:14 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: sorcery
28-09-2022 04:23:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Grimal was kinda the star of that
28-09-2022 04:23:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Yeah!
28-09-2022 04:23:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Very impressive
28-09-2022 04:24:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Show was basically "Harry is the foil to contrast the other two's straight insanity, while Grimal eat the stage."
28-09-2022 04:24:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: And Elise just exists to snark occasionally.
28-09-2022 04:26:21 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: Harry is of course the wierdest of them all in some way we won't find out until later~
28-09-2022 04:27:47 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: okok NOW I sleep
28-09-2022 04:27:53 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: <3
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28-09-2022 04:33:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Mixed caster
28-09-2022 04:33:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Balanced burster
28-09-2022 04:33:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Crappy anti-caster will-build tank
28-09-2022 04:33:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Balanced physical hitter
28-09-2022 04:34:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Primary caster
28-09-2022 04:34:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Surprisingly everyone's got a balanced build
28-09-2022 04:34:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: I think I would've actually preferred to swap to a crest with this group.  Be the 1/1 caster that we're lacking.
28-09-2022 04:35:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Well.  Maybe.
28-09-2022 04:35:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Having one less boost to both phys stats is hard to swallow.
28-09-2022 04:36:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: Clerk is an annoying build.  Probably useless, but focused hard into not-dying.  Might be useful with some levels, I guess.
28-09-2022 04:37:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: ...Also, every single one of us has a unique domain.
28-09-2022 05:00:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.jjt.q: :)
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28-09-2022 05:43:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: back
28-09-2022 05:47:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Welcome back
28-09-2022 05:50:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: I'm not sure there's any unbalanced builds that are reaonably viable in this game.
28-09-2022 05:50:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: 0,0,0,0,0,5
28-09-2022 05:55:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: -1 might/will +1/+1 cont/pow is pretty unbalanced
28-09-2022 05:55:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: fair enough.
28-09-2022 05:55:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: also you can buy a +2.
28-09-2022 05:55:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Same for double dipping on HF and leveling phys stats
28-09-2022 05:55:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Yeah
28-09-2022 05:57:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Don't really consider those viable, though.
28-09-2022 05:57:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Hm?
28-09-2022 05:57:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: -1 to everything, +2 to one offensive or defensive stat.
28-09-2022 05:57:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Ohhh
28-09-2022 05:57:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Nah, I meant +2 as in HF + leveling might
28-09-2022 05:58:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Debuff will and pow/hrt
28-09-2022 05:58:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: yeah, could do that.
28-09-2022 05:58:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: +3 might, +0 dex, -1 everything else.
28-09-2022 05:58:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: ...heh
28-09-2022 05:58:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: doesn't seem viable.
28-09-2022 05:58:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: That... actually still might be viable.
28-09-2022 05:59:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: You have permanent barrier jacket.
28-09-2022 05:59:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: with might?
28-09-2022 05:59:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: You'd surely need assistance, and should fall off as the game gets magical, but you're an absolute tank and hit everything REALLY hars.
28-09-2022 06:00:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: The biggest thing I can say against it is that +3 is not much of a buff over +2 in RTD
28-09-2022 06:00:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: You switch rolling 3 with rolling 9
28-09-2022 06:00:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Depending on the GM that can be debuff
28-09-2022 06:00:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: do note.
28-09-2022 06:01:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: contested rolls are about differences.
28-09-2022 06:01:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: not overshoot country.
28-09-2022 06:01:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: so it's better than normal RTD, in which +3 is dumb.
28-09-2022 06:01:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: and +2 barely ok.
28-09-2022 06:01:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Yeah.
28-09-2022 06:02:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: RTD mechanics were the final reason I went for HF rather than +1 cont/power
28-09-2022 06:03:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: yeah.
28-09-2022 06:08:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: actually I figure opposed rolls will be most of the rolls that matter.
28-09-2022 06:08:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: so I shouldn't be too worried about getting +2s.
28-09-2022 06:11:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Hm.  Maybe.
28-09-2022 06:15:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: yeah, if you're casting a spell at someone, it might effectively negate overshoots.
28-09-2022 06:23:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: mmm.
28-09-2022 06:23:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: I'm still not sure what essences are.
28-09-2022 06:23:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: wonder what they'll be.
28-09-2022 06:25:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: My best guess is little casts.  Abilities.  Something like Coven.
28-09-2022 06:25:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: It was Coven, right?  Not Cabal?
28-09-2022 06:28:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: ..I'm not sure.
28-09-2022 06:29:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Cabal had words and such.
28-09-2022 06:29:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Coven had much more reliable spellcasting.
28-09-2022 06:29:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: but that required tools.
28-09-2022 06:31:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: People were kinda getting abilities in Coven.
28-09-2022 06:39:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: man, remember the period where we had 3 C-games going on at once?
28-09-2022 06:40:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Yeah...
28-09-2022 06:40:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: I mean the one where you played Nanami
28-09-2022 06:40:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: One of the powers gave you random runes that gave weird little buffs/powers
28-09-2022 06:40:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: I feel like essences will be like that.
28-09-2022 06:42:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: It was Coven, yeah
28-09-2022 06:42:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Man v.v
28-09-2022 06:42:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: It's been dead four years...
28-09-2022 06:42:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Doesn't feel like that long.  :(
28-09-2022 06:47:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: yeah, that was fun.
28-09-2022 06:47:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: NJW has tried a few times to launch different games, but never had one take off again.
28-09-2022 06:48:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: That'd be Coven, yeah.
28-09-2022 06:48:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: essences like the runes, hmm.
28-09-2022 06:49:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Runes were really cool.
28-09-2022 06:49:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: that whole game was great.
28-09-2022 06:49:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: NJW should just continue it.  ;-p
28-09-2022 06:49:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: don't start a new one, just update it after the hiatus.
28-09-2022 06:49:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: see who is still around.
28-09-2022 07:01:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Hm.
28-09-2022 07:01:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: I wonder if he could.
28-09-2022 07:01:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Presumably his life has changed and he's got more time now.
28-09-2022 07:19:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: well, could poke him.
28-09-2022 07:19:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: but yeah, it might be the best idea.
28-09-2022 07:19:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: He's on discord.
28-09-2022 07:25:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Hm
28-09-2022 07:25:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Want me to?  Or you?
28-09-2022 07:31:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: mmm.
28-09-2022 07:32:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: maybe you.
28-09-2022 07:32:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: I've mentioned Coven to him a few times in the past.
28-09-2022 07:32:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: but I don't think he knows that anyone else remembers it well.
28-09-2022 07:38:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: That said, it is at a reasonable moment for that.
28-09-2022 07:38:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Could add a couple new players.  Have them level up a couple times from the original, take a wand or other item or two, and they'd be ready to go.
28-09-2022 07:38:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: and then start the planned mission.
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28-09-2022 07:46:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: How annoyin
28-09-2022 07:52:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Sent off a PM
28-09-2022 07:53:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Wonder what I'd do with Ben these days.  He was a bit flat, very unthinking.  That was nice back then, but nowadays I think I'd like to give him more agency.
28-09-2022 07:54:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: I do love his concept.  Crazy old man who is certain magic doesn't exist, despite working with mages, because he's simply insane enough to not question it.
28-09-2022 07:55:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: mmm.
28-09-2022 07:55:29 < * Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net checks notes.
28-09-2022 07:55:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Hah, still have it.
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28-09-2022 07:58:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: last words?
28-09-2022 08:02:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: * Devastator checks notes.
28-09-2022 08:02:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: I still have the puple catgirl notes.  ;-p
28-09-2022 08:02:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Ahhh
28-09-2022 08:03:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Well I started PS!
28-09-2022 08:03:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: but no, don't think that's appropriate anymore.
28-09-2022 08:03:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: The deal was, I started PS, or you'd make ben a purple catgirl.
28-09-2022 08:03:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: True.
28-09-2022 08:03:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: But still, could probably do something.
28-09-2022 08:04:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: It *would* be appropriate for him to get magically messed with.
28-09-2022 08:04:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: My headcanon is that he
28-09-2022 08:04:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: 's Simon Smith from 888th, and is therefore just under 100 years old.
28-09-2022 08:05:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Presumably affected by some kind of magic, he just doesn't realize.
28-09-2022 08:08:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: What would be good?
28-09-2022 08:08:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: could give him cannibalism powerups, maybe.  ;-p
28-09-2022 08:08:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: but I think he had a fame-be-gone thing going.
28-09-2022 08:10:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Towards the end, NJW had given him, like... the ability to influence soldiers?  They saw him as a commanding officer.
28-09-2022 08:10:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: I'm not sure.  Technically, I don't think nan actually fed ben any blood to activate that.
28-09-2022 08:11:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: but I think it happened anyway and he's seen a bit more like he was depicted in fiction, which cleaned his crime record.
28-09-2022 08:11:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: There was an odd scene I think with the demon leader.
28-09-2022 08:11:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Ohhhh
28-09-2022 08:11:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: So that was NAN's effect
28-09-2022 08:11:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: I figured NJW was just giving that to him because he never ever used clots
28-09-2022 08:12:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: I'm not 100%, but that's what I think was true.
28-09-2022 08:14:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Things to give Ben... would probably be, like, defensive negation buffs.  Making him a 40k blank, he doesn't believe in magic *so hard* it's weakened in his presence.  Or just the usual badass normal powerset, where he's extra tough/strong/fast.
28-09-2022 08:14:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Ahhhh
28-09-2022 08:14:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: One thing that you had talked a lot about was making him an angel IIRC?
28-09-2022 08:14:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: yeah, tougness should have been doable.
28-09-2022 08:14:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: mostly because it would have been amusing to see how he would deny that happening.
28-09-2022 08:14:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: toughness is pretty easy.
28-09-2022 08:15:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Another physical option would be making him a werewolf.  Complete with no recall of being one.
28-09-2022 08:15:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: hmm.
28-09-2022 08:15:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: That would be pretty suitable, both to his skillset, and the nature of werewolf stories where the afflicted wakes up covered in blood and wonders "what the hell did I do last night?"
28-09-2022 08:16:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: well those would be options.  There was going to be a dead period where Nan wanted to set up betraying her boss, but didn't want to look like a threat.  Good time to give powers to others.
28-09-2022 08:16:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: werewolf, eh?
28-09-2022 08:17:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Though traditional completely feral werewolf would mean he can't get a minigun and be an angry werewolf heavy
28-09-2022 08:18:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: there's other ways to do it.
28-09-2022 08:18:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: could have it be powered by combat instead of the moon.
28-09-2022 08:18:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: the more he fights the more he wolfs out.
28-09-2022 08:18:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: ...That'd be neat.
28-09-2022 08:18:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Might also be on theme for Nan's powers.
28-09-2022 08:19:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: hmm?
28-09-2022 08:19:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: Werewolf ben rips into people, and drains their power to fuel the wolf rage.
28-09-2022 08:19:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.nsi.hg: He just does that by violently killing them rather than the other methods Nan uses
28-09-2022 08:20:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Doesn't quite work that way.
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28-09-2022 08:20:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Nan had any powers a sufficient number of people thought she had.
28-09-2022 08:20:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: so Ben would have that specific power if he'd drank blood and enough people thought he did.
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28-09-2022 08:22:13 < syvarris!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Yeah, and didn't nan power that by basically draining all those people a tiny amount, just on a massive scale?
28-09-2022 08:22:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: No, didn't drain anyone.
28-09-2022 08:22:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: people had innate magic.
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28-09-2022 08:23:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: what happened was that she was changed, not them, to be affected much more heavily by that.
28-09-2022 08:23:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: but they didn't lose anything.
28-09-2022 08:23:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Ah.  Hum.
28-09-2022 08:23:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: it's like she had an attenna to receive their intentions.
28-09-2022 08:23:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: antenna.
28-09-2022 08:24:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Hair antenna
28-09-2022 08:25:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: hah.
28-09-2022 08:26:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: the hair didn't actually do anything.  Yet.
28-09-2022 08:26:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: would have made it useful.
28-09-2022 08:26:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: was mostly just a very obvious 'it worked' marker.
28-09-2022 08:26:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: and a bet, I think.
28-09-2022 08:44:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: and amusement.
28-09-2022 08:44:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Ammo, gah
28-09-2022 08:44:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: simply GAAAAH
28-09-2022 08:45:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Odds are hard :(
28-09-2022 08:46:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: hmm?
28-09-2022 08:48:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: I want there to be special ammo.  Special ammo only works in weapons of the same caliber, and gives it benefits and sometimes penalties.  To a degree, special ammo works as a buff for some types of weapons which underperform (pistol calibers can use silent subsonic ammo, shotguns can use lots of weird stuff), and to a degree it works as just a randomization factor.  "Do I take this crappier gun with AP rounds, or do I take the better gun with FMJ?
28-09-2022 08:49:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: I want there to be SOME chance of finding special ammo with any regular weapon, but have it be low.  And any stray ammo drops that don't come with a gun are guaranteed to be special, with higher chance of good stuff than the regular special drops.
28-09-2022 08:50:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: "I have this rare high velocity AP rifle ammo, but no rifle.  Do I carry it and hope to find a rifle, or do I carry more smokes instead?"
28-09-2022 08:50:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: But I want the probabilities to be balanced.
28-09-2022 08:51:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: I want MOST guns to not have special ammo (so it's not too complicated and impactful overall), and I want there to be a native intuitive system in the code for higher quality ammo (so this isn't a complete clusterfuck to read)
28-09-2022 08:51:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: I did the latter but the probabilties ended up too high for the former.
28-09-2022 08:52:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: too common?
28-09-2022 08:52:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Yes
28-09-2022 08:52:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: lower the stray ammo drop rate, raise the quantity of regular ammo found with guns?
28-09-2022 08:52:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: and if they roll special, have it be only a part of the drop?
28-09-2022 08:52:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: There's no quantities.  You have
28-09-2022 08:53:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: 'Box of .37', and it feeds one .37 gun forever.
28-09-2022 08:53:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: ahh, that would be tricky.
28-09-2022 08:53:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Yes.  :(
28-09-2022 08:53:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: might just have to go with rare ammo drops then.
28-09-2022 08:54:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: not much of it.
28-09-2022 08:54:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: you don't get the tradeoff often, but it does happen when it happens.
28-09-2022 08:54:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: another option is to have a fixed amount of rare ammo drops.
28-09-2022 08:54:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: ie, they're not random.
28-09-2022 08:55:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: I need there to be a system for regular guns getting rare ammo drops, ideally adjustable, because there's too many proprietary ammo guns that cannot have random ammo drops for their calibers, due to being too rare.  :(
28-09-2022 08:55:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: There's only one revolver that fires .46 magnum, and it's the rarest handgun, out of 8.
28-09-2022 08:56:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: so what's wrong with that one having a 5% odds to spawn with the rare ammo, say?
28-09-2022 08:56:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: ...Maybe.  Hrm.
28-09-2022 08:56:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: This system is about 20% larger than I can fit inside my brain at once >.<
28-09-2022 08:57:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Ahh, K-Com 2.
28-09-2022 08:57:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: sometimes that happens, yeah.
28-09-2022 08:58:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Yeah, I should stepp back and segment it more.
28-09-2022 08:58:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Split it into raw chance for specials, then chance for each type.
28-09-2022 08:58:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: At least with this I realized it was too much to do manually and can automate it >.>
28-09-2022 08:59:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: I also realized I'll need to add more to it so I can just Ctrl+C the loot rolls.
28-09-2022 08:59:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: But that, at least, is mostly data entry.
28-09-2022 09:00:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Except for ammo which has lots of bonus text, but Aaaa I'll think about that later >.<
28-09-2022 09:01:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: so what'd you say to NJW?
28-09-2022 09:01:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: "Heya, NJW.  Remember Coven?  I do.  Someone just started up a new magical girl game, with a mysterious system that reminded me of Coven.  I ended up talking about it with Dev, who also misses the game, and... well, I checked the end of the game and saw this:"
28-09-2022 09:01:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: [Quote of his last post in Coven]
28-09-2022 09:02:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: "Surprising to think it was four years ago.  Feels like a lot less time has passed.  But!  It was a good game, and this old message saying Coven would return either "never" or "not for a bit" made me wonder if maybe you'd be willing to update it again?  I know you've tried a couple other games since then, and they didn't last, but maybe Coven could, even if just for a bit.  I'd certainly enjoy it.  Dev would too, he still occasionally talks 
28-09-2022 09:02:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: ...I know the answer is probably no, but hey, might as well poke you and say it'd be enjoyed.  If nothing else, you can be happy your game was good enough to be memorable years later? 					"
28-09-2022 09:02:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Yeah, who knows.
28-09-2022 09:02:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: NJW does seem to want to run something.
28-09-2022 09:03:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: And I've been wanting to be in a game again O-O
28-09-2022 09:05:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: ...fuck, Quest!
28-09-2022 09:05:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: I forgot >.<
28-09-2022 09:06:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: It's ok.
28-09-2022 09:06:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: Do note, you'll need to camp if you want to fix your armour or get your wound checks back to normal.
28-09-2022 09:09:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Sent.
28-09-2022 09:09:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Greeting superdino
28-09-2022 09:10:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: ...Not an orangutan.  Black ape.
28-09-2022 09:10:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Eh.
28-09-2022 09:12:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Anydice is an amazing tool, seriously.
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28-09-2022 09:15:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: I suppose I should make it so silenced weapons/ammo never roll tracers, since tracers reveal your position, negating the purpose of silenced weapons.
28-09-2022 09:15:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: ...Yeaaaaah.
28-09-2022 09:16:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Silenced stuff is already quite good in this game.
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28-09-2022 10:02:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Hrm.
28-09-2022 10:02:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: I don't think I'll be able to join and watch anything oct 1st.
28-09-2022 10:03:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.imx.zh: Hurricane is expected to last that long.
28-09-2022 10:10:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: good luck.
28-09-2022 10:10:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: we'll see, but yes.
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28-09-2022 10:25:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-3k6sq0zi0zbspc20ppv3h9921.ipv2.telus.net: gorilla, actually.
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