03-09-2022 03:48:35 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 03-09-2022 03:50:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I have a sore throat 03-09-2022 03:50:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: bleh 03-09-2022 03:55:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Getting to have a stat at 1d12 when base is 1d6 is *extremely* strong. 03-09-2022 03:56:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: That implies your opponent *critfails* 50% of the time. 03-09-2022 03:56:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: And just conventionally fails 71% of the time. 03-09-2022 03:56:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Before any gear or equipment is considered. 03-09-2022 03:58:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...Devastator, you should probably have a harder threshold for critfails. 03-09-2022 03:59:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Checking anydice, opposed d6 has the loser roll half or less of the victor 25% of the time. Which makes sense, thinking about it for a moment. But 25% of equally matched conflicts involving a critfail seems much too high. 03-09-2022 04:00:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Requiring triple would give a critfail rate of 13.89%, which is similar to basic d6, just a bit lower. Which I naturally like. 03-09-2022 04:02:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I should read the rest of the doc before I begin munchkinning buuuut 03-09-2022 04:03:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: heyo syv. 03-09-2022 04:04:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: Only the player can critfail. 03-09-2022 04:04:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: players. 03-09-2022 04:04:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: 1d6 < 1d12 has a rate of ~71%. 1d6 < 1d10 has a rate of 65%. Going up to d12 reduces failure rate by just over a sixth, while going up to d10 (from d6, success rate of ~42%) reduces failure rate by over a third. 03-09-2022 04:04:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hmm. 03-09-2022 04:04:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: And don't expect opponents to have d12s. 03-09-2022 04:05:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Well, I'm somewhat assuming that d6 skill is a proxy for an "average" challenge, but alright. That does halve the expected critfail rate in d6 vs d6. 03-09-2022 04:07:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: also I think your math is questionable. 03-09-2022 04:07:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: yeah, it's wrong. 03-09-2022 04:07:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: d6 v d12 03-09-2022 04:07:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: you roll a 1, that's critfails on 3-12, for 75% 03-09-2022 04:08:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: you roll a 2, that's a critfail on 5-12, for 75%. Gah, had the first one wrong. 03-09-2022 04:08:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: roll a 3, that's a critfail on 7-12, for 50%. 03-09-2022 04:08:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: 4, critfail on 9-1/3 03-09-2022 04:08:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: gah. 03-09-2022 04:08:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: brain no work. 03-09-2022 04:09:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: 6 is 0. 5 is 1/6, 4 is 1/3, 3 is 1/2, 2 is 2/3, and 1 is 5/6. 03-09-2022 04:09:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I didn't do math. I plugged it into anydice. 03-09-2022 04:09:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: average is 2.5 out of 6. 03-09-2022 04:10:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "output 1d12 >= 2 * 1d6" 03-09-2022 04:11:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: Yeah, no, ties are in your favor. 03-09-2022 04:11:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: so just >, not >= 03-09-2022 04:11:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: No, >= because 2 is double 1. 03-09-2022 04:11:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: yeah, but 3 or better wins. 03-09-2022 04:11:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: did I say 2 somewhere? 03-09-2022 04:11:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Highlighted 03-09-2022 04:11:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ahh 03-09-2022 04:11:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Okay, I like that change. 03-09-2022 04:13:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: I've got some more ideas, but I want to see more armoury stuff first. 03-09-2022 04:17:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Allowing players to manifest anything from the armory at-cost by spending one turn seems very strong, and disincentivises taking stuff at the start of the mission. Mostly only certain kinds of things, but I think it'd cause people to not tend to make big purchases before they're useful. 03-09-2022 04:17:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: In some cases it's actually much better. Say, manifesting a battle tank inside of a bunker, which you never could have driven into from outside. 03-09-2022 04:21:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: I have no issues with that. 03-09-2022 04:21:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: I will have ambushes and surprise attacks. 03-09-2022 04:21:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: but I really have no issues with you just making stuff when you need it. 03-09-2022 04:24:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yup, I was careful to say it's not worse. It's strong, but making players strong isn't necessarily bad. Just wanted to point it out. 03-09-2022 04:24:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: I've got some pretty gnarly missions, yes. 03-09-2022 04:25:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: plus, well.. 03-09-2022 04:25:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: your body is manifest wherever. 03-09-2022 04:25:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: that's how healing works. 03-09-2022 04:51:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Going to try hunt with MJ 03-09-2022 04:53:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...anime dark souls is 80% off 03-09-2022 04:53:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: hm 03-09-2022 04:54:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: hah. 03-09-2022 04:54:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: MJ's around? 03-09-2022 04:56:36 -!- MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 03-09-2022 04:56:45 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: Lo 03-09-2022 04:56:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: Heya MJ. 03-09-2022 04:56:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: good to see you. 03-09-2022 04:57:04 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: Hiya dev 03-09-2022 04:57:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: visit went fun. 03-09-2022 04:57:12 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: Sick 03-09-2022 04:57:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: Heard you wanted a pic of me. ;-p 03-09-2022 04:57:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: have to beg it from syv. 03-09-2022 04:57:37 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: I did :L 03-09-2022 04:57:40 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: ^P 03-09-2022 04:57:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: took him to a glacier. 03-09-2022 04:57:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: hah. 03-09-2022 04:57:46 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: I’m somewhat drunk. 03-09-2022 04:58:17 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: Had my first exam today 03-09-2022 04:58:33 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: And nice. 03-09-2022 05:00:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: that is nice. 03-09-2022 05:02:56 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: I think it went well actually 03-09-2022 05:03:45 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: Or I failed. Hard to tell, but hey that’s what the actual grade is for 03-09-2022 05:04:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: indeed. 03-09-2022 05:04:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: it went well or you failed. 03-09-2022 05:04:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: That is covering all bases. 03-09-2022 05:05:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: Did your bag end up finding you, syv? 03-09-2022 05:06:04 -!- MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03-09-2022 05:06:05 -!- MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 03-09-2022 05:07:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes 03-09-2022 05:07:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: They actually had someone drive it to us 03-09-2022 05:08:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Over an hour from the AP, and down our terrible dirt road 03-09-2022 05:08:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Which is worse than it has been in a long while 03-09-2022 05:08:56 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: I always feel like it would be fun to be a courier 03-09-2022 05:11:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: MJ 03-09-2022 05:11:31 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: Yes? 03-09-2022 05:11:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Still want to play hunt? 03-09-2022 05:11:39 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: Sure? 03-09-2022 05:11:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'm on steam 03-09-2022 05:11:52 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: But I will admit. I’m shit faced so like it will be hilarious. 03-09-2022 05:14:05 -!- MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03-09-2022 05:14:30 -!- MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 03-09-2022 05:16:59 -!- Stopped log service 03-09-2022 05:17:30 -!- Started log service 03-09-2022 05:17:39 -!- parisbre56[Away]!parisbre56@62.74.ki.jwp has joined #einsteinianroulette 03-09-2022 05:17:39 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS 03-09-2022 05:17:39 -!- Topic set by syv [Saturday 22 May 2021, 04:44:55] 03-09-2022 05:22:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: good for them. 03-09-2022 05:22:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: and good for you. 03-09-2022 05:24:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "I've had... uhm... well, I'm not gonna do the math to figure out how many beers I've had!" 03-09-2022 05:24:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It says something when you need to do math to figure out how many beers you've had 03-09-2022 05:48:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: at least it isn't advanced math. 03-09-2022 06:02:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: getting the hang of jungle assaults. 03-09-2022 06:03:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: you want to spam bombard area fire with infantry like 100m or so away to pin individually targeted units to the point where they're described as 'retreating'. Then you can move someone in to shoot them in the face without getting counterfied to death. 03-09-2022 06:03:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: still that first unit spotting them is going to get mulched. 03-09-2022 06:03:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: doesn't seem to be a way around that unless you do the zone firing before the spotting unit advances. 03-09-2022 06:09:02 < MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com: What game dev? 03-09-2022 06:09:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: Steel Panthers. 03-09-2022 06:09:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: got an assault mission that's uphill all the way. 03-09-2022 06:09:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: but there's enough jungle so there's cover all the way. 03-09-2022 06:13:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: the minus side is my big tank force isn't much good, but I forsee needing them to lob HE shells over the head of the rifle line eventually. 03-09-2022 06:13:47 -!- MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03-09-2022 06:14:09 -!- MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 03-09-2022 06:14:11 -!- MJ!MJ@9298-7417-2121-57kh-0472-9282-696q-d55t.res6.spectrum.com has quit [Client Quit] 03-09-2022 06:59:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: mmm, was rereading through Wise Man's Fear, syv. 03-09-2022 06:59:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: still thinking over my predictions. 03-09-2022 11:55:36 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com has quit [Quit: Thanks, Musk. -.-] 03-09-2022 18:46:00 -!- ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 03-09-2022 23:00:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: hello egan. 03-09-2022 23:01:01 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: hi helo 03-09-2022 23:03:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: I see I have things! 03-09-2022 23:03:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: (some new stuff in the armoury for the R-Team.) 03-09-2022 23:09:49 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: https://youtu.be/Pc9e6Y5jzPI 03-09-2022 23:09:55 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: game dungeon~ 03-09-2022 23:10:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: ooh. 03-09-2022 23:10:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: oh hey, Conquest Earth! 03-09-2022 23:19:17 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: you know it? 03-09-2022 23:20:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: Yes. I knew someone who had a copy. 03-09-2022 23:20:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: and played it. 03-09-2022 23:20:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywfp-6e3lc1co3qjdku1pcpds7xw0d.ipv8.telus.net: I do see why we didn't play it more. 03-09-2022 23:27:52 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: ah, scuffed global scale xcom? 03-09-2022 23:32:36 < ER!smuxi@559-025-147-15.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net: "have you heard developer talk about 'quality of life improvements'? Well, they're talking about the opposite of this."