13-04-2022 03:19:29 -!- MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz has joined #einsteinianroulette
13-04-2022 03:19:31 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: lo
13-04-2022 03:29:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: 'lo
13-04-2022 03:29:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: heya MJ.
13-04-2022 03:29:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: MidJag.
13-04-2022 03:30:07 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hiya dev
13-04-2022 03:30:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: how're you>
13-04-2022 03:30:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: just gotta read the forums for a minute.
13-04-2022 03:30:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: but doing ok.
13-04-2022 03:30:58 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Cool
13-04-2022 03:31:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: oh, you read that Arabs at War book, right?
13-04-2022 03:31:13 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Actually haven't yet
13-04-2022 03:31:20 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: My lifes been nuts latelly
13-04-2022 03:31:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Ahh, there was a bit on this battle.
13-04-2022 03:31:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Maaten_al-Sarra
13-04-2022 03:31:32 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I'll get around to it.
13-04-2022 03:31:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: It's a good reminder that there's always a higher level of incompetence.
13-04-2022 03:31:36 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: heh
13-04-2022 03:33:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: On the subject of that I saw the Ukrainians captured some oligarch who chilled in Ukraine a lot. I forget his name, though Zemistov?
13-04-2022 03:34:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah.
13-04-2022 03:34:21 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I was way off. Medvedchuk
13-04-2022 03:34:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Guy was under arrest for assisting in the looting of Crimea already.
13-04-2022 03:34:40 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah
13-04-2022 03:34:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: escaped just after the invasion, but apparently too effing dumb to figure out how to get out of the country.
13-04-2022 03:34:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: seriously.
13-04-2022 03:35:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: how shit do you have to be to not figure out how to leave a country during a full invasion with a jillion people on the roads?
13-04-2022 03:35:34 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yeah that's actually stunning
13-04-2022 03:35:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: also shows how much of a shit Putin gives to his friends.
13-04-2022 03:36:12 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: True
13-04-2022 03:37:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Trading him for captured civilians would be excellent.  Wonder if Putin would take him up on that.
13-04-2022 03:38:37 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Eh, trading captured civilians means you have to actually admit you have captured civilians. 
13-04-2022 03:38:40 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: So probably not
13-04-2022 03:39:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Nah, Zelynskyy got a kidnapped mayor back for seven conscripts, and neither of them were supposed to be there.
13-04-2022 03:39:51 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Heh, fair point, I'm suprised a mayor was only worth seven conscripts
13-04-2022 03:41:45 < * Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net shrugs.
13-04-2022 03:41:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Putin doesn't consider local leaders worth much, I guess.
13-04-2022 03:42:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: also, that foreign minister who was shot early on was actually trying to kill Zelynskyy with a gun.
13-04-2022 03:42:49 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: .....Has the world become a shitty bond movie and no one told me? did I miss a memo or something? Does Putin have a white cat he's been hiding?
13-04-2022 03:43:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: You saw his mansion.
13-04-2022 03:43:52 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: True
13-04-2022 03:44:05 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I just didn't expect the bond villian comparisons to be so literal
13-04-2022 03:44:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: heh.
13-04-2022 03:44:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: anyway, don't worry, MJ.  Putin has to attack soon.  Attrition casaulties are ridiculous so far, and those loitering munitions add attrition damage to russian artillery.
13-04-2022 03:45:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: really, if he doesn't attack, it turns into endless small-unit raids, which Ukrainians win badly at.
13-04-2022 03:46:25 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yeah, the ukrainians are really good at small unit tactics apperently
13-04-2022 03:46:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: it's called 'freedom'
13-04-2022 03:47:16 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Heh, fair point.
13-04-2022 03:48:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: anyway, lemme finish up this post for Ambiguity, and then can do more Terranigma if you're interested.
13-04-2022 03:48:38 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Sure, I'm not gonna stay up for too long I'm a bit sick but sure.
13-04-2022 03:58:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: okay.
13-04-2022 04:00:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: ready
13-04-2022 04:01:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Stream's up.  I'll let it run for a minute or two.
13-04-2022 04:01:09 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Bet
13-04-2022 04:02:19 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Alright terrranigame
13-04-2022 04:02:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: and here we go.
13-04-2022 04:03:10 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hmm, not a very lush amazon
13-04-2022 04:03:32 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Neat
13-04-2022 04:04:55 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I do like ironic place names
13-04-2022 04:05:10 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: heh
13-04-2022 04:05:18 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Good sound effect
13-04-2022 04:05:49 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Indeed
13-04-2022 04:06:37 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Intresting enemy design
13-04-2022 04:07:38 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah
13-04-2022 04:07:48 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Heh, so kind of a gotcha weapon
13-04-2022 04:08:02 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah.
13-04-2022 04:08:12 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Don't you have a poision cure?
13-04-2022 04:08:22 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Huh, I thought this water hurt you
13-04-2022 04:09:35 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah
13-04-2022 04:14:52 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Who doesn't?
13-04-2022 04:14:57 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I'm sure it'll end well
13-04-2022 04:15:14 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Not like that's what like 30% of all fairy tales tell you not to do.
13-04-2022 04:15:29 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Are you using plants as flippers?
13-04-2022 04:15:55 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: heh
13-04-2022 04:16:21 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yes I rember being taught to swim by strapping giant leaves to my feet as well. 
13-04-2022 04:16:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: heh, he actually swam
13-04-2022 04:16:54 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Water isn't instant death.
13-04-2022 04:17:28 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I'm not sure I will but all right
13-04-2022 04:17:54 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Hmm
13-04-2022 04:18:05 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I'm trying to think what he did.
13-04-2022 04:18:37 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Is the weird thing that he talked to a plant?
13-04-2022 04:18:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: heh.
13-04-2022 04:19:06 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Heh, what is a leaf suit?
13-04-2022 04:19:45 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: It's kinda sad that a bunch of leaves are better armor then the cloak your girlfirend gave you
13-04-2022 04:19:50 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yeah I was gonna mention that
13-04-2022 04:21:23 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Xool
13-04-2022 04:21:25 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Cool
13-04-2022 04:22:03 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: So are magirocks awlays blue crystals? Or are theree hidden ones?
13-04-2022 04:24:24 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: oh neat
13-04-2022 04:24:55 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah
13-04-2022 04:25:57 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Nice
13-04-2022 04:26:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Man if only ressurecting the world could be entierlly by hitting paraites with sticks.
13-04-2022 04:26:58 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: These are nice cut scenes
13-04-2022 04:28:22 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Huh, intresting
13-04-2022 04:28:36 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: That is facsinating honestlly
13-04-2022 04:28:49 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Then again weren't RTS's considered that a for a while too?
13-04-2022 04:29:27 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Course
13-04-2022 04:29:32 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Sounds good.
13-04-2022 04:30:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: back
13-04-2022 04:30:36 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: cool
13-04-2022 04:30:40 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: sounds good
13-04-2022 04:31:00 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah
13-04-2022 04:31:33 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Hey you know my actual name. I could swear I've told you at some point
13-04-2022 04:31:45 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Fair enough
13-04-2022 04:32:33 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: It is funny I've got three names now, my normal name, my fraternity nickname, and MJ
13-04-2022 04:32:37 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: True
13-04-2022 04:32:42 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Lot more pleasent now
13-04-2022 04:33:14 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Typically Doc, or my last name because it sounds German and I look German as fuck.
13-04-2022 04:33:59 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yeah
13-04-2022 04:34:21 -!- IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net has joined #einsteinianroulette
13-04-2022 04:34:25 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Hiya Irony
13-04-2022 04:34:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: heya.
13-04-2022 04:34:29 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Hey
13-04-2022 04:34:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: got the channel?  I think it's Kofiman21, IIRC.
13-04-2022 04:34:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: and thanks.
13-04-2022 04:34:46 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I'll drop a link
13-04-2022 04:34:50 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: https://www.twitch.tv/kofiman21
13-04-2022 04:34:54 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: np
13-04-2022 04:35:04 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: How're you Irony?
13-04-2022 04:35:17 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Pretty good
13-04-2022 04:35:26 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Good to hear
13-04-2022 04:35:41 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Doesn't look familiar
13-04-2022 04:37:06 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Uhh essentially we let a demon thing out of it's box, it maybe kinda freezes people, we find out we are on earth and through the magic of fast travel and tutorials restore the world.
13-04-2022 04:37:27 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: pfff
13-04-2022 04:37:40 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: And then our girlfriend goes to do...something, I forget what.
13-04-2022 04:39:08 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I like the punch golem
13-04-2022 04:39:24 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Might be why I was reminded of Golden Axe for some reason
13-04-2022 04:40:00 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Have you tried hitting him more dev?
13-04-2022 04:40:08 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: :P
13-04-2022 04:41:13 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: That cave texture specifically looked a lot like pokemon not sure why
13-04-2022 04:41:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Also I found out recently pokemon is the single most succseful multimedia franchise ever.
13-04-2022 04:42:07 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Indeed
13-04-2022 04:44:32 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yes, the first one was kind of a push ovver
13-04-2022 04:46:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: It's funny how the dude only pulls himself up with his arms
13-04-2022 04:46:54 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: His movement is weird in general
13-04-2022 04:47:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: His normal movement is like an aggressive powerwalk
13-04-2022 04:47:10 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: heh
13-04-2022 04:47:35 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: He wants to show he means buisness and make he sure he gets his steps in
13-04-2022 04:48:33 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Well Irony what've you been up to? Haven't seen you in forever
13-04-2022 04:49:42 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: It's always a good place for a flame thrower, you just burn everyone who thinks it's a bad place.
13-04-2022 04:49:51 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Not much
13-04-2022 04:50:08 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Got into Elden Ring despite my computer not being able to properly handle it
13-04-2022 04:50:27 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: lol
13-04-2022 04:50:30 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Fair enough!
13-04-2022 04:50:30 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I need to get that game, it looks fun as hell.
13-04-2022 04:50:51 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: It is, even with all the performance issues
13-04-2022 04:51:15 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: That's quite the magic.
13-04-2022 04:51:21 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Rainbow tree
13-04-2022 04:51:35 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: aw
13-04-2022 04:51:44 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: That's dissapointing
13-04-2022 04:52:37 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I'm excited then
13-04-2022 04:53:21 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: It's funny how he like assiertivelly plants his feet even while picking stuff up
13-04-2022 04:53:36 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: sick
13-04-2022 04:55:36 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: I am intrigued
13-04-2022 04:55:46 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: They really do
13-04-2022 04:56:01 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Can you climb down that pit?
13-04-2022 04:56:21 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: lol
13-04-2022 04:56:22 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Can you do anything with that dragon head?
13-04-2022 04:57:07 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Huh
13-04-2022 04:59:13 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Taking damage from projectiles as you fall is a dick move
13-04-2022 05:00:50 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Oh cool climbing spikes.
13-04-2022 05:01:06 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Man this dudes legs are essentially vestigial when it comes to climbing
13-04-2022 05:02:59 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Save states are pretty great
13-04-2022 05:03:53 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: So this has a touch of metroidvania as well?
13-04-2022 05:05:56 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Oh that's what that bird head thing does
13-04-2022 05:06:03 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: It's the exit of a tunnel 
13-04-2022 05:06:29 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Actually navigating it looks janky as hell
13-04-2022 05:06:39 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: But diving into a box to arrange your stuff looks cool
13-04-2022 05:07:09 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: It would be fun if you could walk around if you wanted to, horribly ineffecient but it would look pretty awesome
13-04-2022 05:08:27 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Yeah
13-04-2022 05:10:08 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: What are magirocks, anyway?
13-04-2022 05:12:33 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: So they're actually useful collecitbals handy
13-04-2022 05:15:02 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: One thing I've liked in some games is when they warn you that your about to permentally leave an area, lessens the paranoia for me
13-04-2022 05:16:38 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Huh, neat
13-04-2022 05:18:33 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Of course the obnoxious bird cave has a bird boss
13-04-2022 05:18:55 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Coulda been one of those stone knights!
13-04-2022 05:19:03 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: That would have been sick
13-04-2022 05:19:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: These are pretty complex cut scenes
13-04-2022 05:19:53 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Like graphically
13-04-2022 05:21:02 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I mean this game came out shortly before I was born so I don't have a ton of frame of reference for what the SNES could do.
13-04-2022 05:21:08 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: And true
13-04-2022 05:21:21 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: This water effect is making my eyes bleed
13-04-2022 05:21:27 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: It's entierly possible this man is just hallucinating vividly and he's still just in the village
13-04-2022 05:21:42 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: heh, I like bird bro
13-04-2022 05:21:56 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: True.
13-04-2022 05:22:00 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Is that ever explained?
13-04-2022 05:22:19 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: huh, neat
13-04-2022 05:23:05 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Bird suit?
13-04-2022 05:24:07 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Oh hey, giant birb
13-04-2022 05:24:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Do we need to restore the life force of the wind?
13-04-2022 05:24:51 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Ooh, I see
13-04-2022 05:26:58 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: heh
13-04-2022 05:27:14 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: That's pretty funny
13-04-2022 05:27:21 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Haha, being delivered in a bundle
13-04-2022 05:27:50 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: When in doubt chuck a rock at it
13-04-2022 05:28:14 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I like the idea of a wind god oversleeping because he missed some alarm
13-04-2022 05:28:29 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Well that was easy
13-04-2022 05:28:53 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: lol
13-04-2022 05:29:57 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: heh, gulls or the shoe leather express
13-04-2022 05:31:08 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Be pretty funny if I game let you just swim across an ocean
13-04-2022 05:31:17 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I guess minecraft does.
13-04-2022 05:32:18 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Sadly, most games use oceans as conveniently impassable barriers :(
13-04-2022 05:33:35 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: So where we before we went to afirca? South America?
13-04-2022 05:33:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Or North?
13-04-2022 05:33:52 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah.
13-04-2022 05:35:00 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Hm
13-04-2022 05:35:11 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Wonder why that cactus is chattier than the one in the previous area
13-04-2022 05:36:12 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Cool gam
13-04-2022 05:36:12 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: e
13-04-2022 05:36:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Thanks for coming by.
13-04-2022 05:36:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: and thanks for watching.  Terranigma is one of those all-time classics.
13-04-2022 05:36:52 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: No prob, it's fun to watch
13-04-2022 05:37:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, it's an experience.  ;-p
13-04-2022 05:37:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Really, though, it's one of my favorites.
13-04-2022 05:38:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: anyway, Irony, worried about Ukraine?
13-04-2022 05:40:09 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Yeah
13-04-2022 05:40:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: I'm not going to say it's magically going to be okay, but the Russian army has problems that can't be solved by a general.
13-04-2022 05:41:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: no general can make the troops use better small-unit tactics.
13-04-2022 05:41:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: and Russia can either attack into equal force defenders with better weapons and tactics, or get whittled down by endless small-unit raids.
13-04-2022 05:42:32 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Does Russia have theater general yet?
13-04-2022 05:42:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Yes, Putin named one last week.
13-04-2022 05:42:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah, I must have missed that
13-04-2022 05:42:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: the leader of the Southern Military District.
13-04-2022 05:42:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: after 40,000 casaulties.
13-04-2022 05:43:10 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Always a winning proposition
13-04-2022 05:43:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: yes.
13-04-2022 05:43:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: A good idea to do so after you've shot your bolt, mostly.
13-04-2022 05:43:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: most of those were by their best units, too, not just cannon fodder.  And Russia simply doesn't have quality replacements.
13-04-2022 05:44:01 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Is that a canadian expression? I've not heard shot your bolt before
13-04-2022 05:44:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Not to my knowlege.
13-04-2022 05:44:38 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Fair enough
13-04-2022 05:45:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: They can probably scrape up enough tanks to replace their lossess at this point, but they'll be old T-72s.  Might not have enough IFVs/APCs, etc.  Or it'll be close.
13-04-2022 05:45:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: We'll probably see a few hundred T-62s after that for reinfocements, and then they'll be out of replacement tanks.
13-04-2022 05:45:49 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Weren't T-62 made in like early soviet era?
13-04-2022 05:46:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Yes.
13-04-2022 05:46:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Those are not the heavily upgraded T-64s being used by the Ukrainians.
13-04-2022 05:46:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: T-62s are very close to garbage.
13-04-2022 05:47:17 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah, so actual T-62's the kind their grandfather would have used
13-04-2022 05:48:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: pretty much, yeah.
13-04-2022 05:49:54 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Well the M72 will feel right at home.
13-04-2022 05:50:07 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: And the carl gustav for that matter
13-04-2022 05:50:12 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: ....and the RPG
13-04-2022 05:50:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: and anything, really.
13-04-2022 05:50:27 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: ...Man there were a lot of old anti tank weapons made in the 60's.
13-04-2022 05:50:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: T-62s are back in the day when molotovs could score kills.  ;-p
13-04-2022 05:51:17 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: heh
13-04-2022 05:52:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: when the armour was simple hardened steel.
13-04-2022 05:52:12 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: oh wow.
13-04-2022 05:52:19 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: So old old style stuff
13-04-2022 05:54:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: yes
13-04-2022 05:54:31 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Well, I guess if you're gonna brag about beating the Nazis you might as well bring authentic props...
13-04-2022 05:55:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: ..while being the Nazis.
13-04-2022 05:55:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: god, it's like a checklist.
13-04-2022 05:55:57 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: For what being cartoonishilly bond villian like?
13-04-2022 05:56:19 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: I think a Bond villain would bring fancier tanks, not whatever was left in the attic
13-04-2022 05:56:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: everything that makes a nazi a nazi, do it.
13-04-2022 05:56:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: There were some fancy tanks.
13-04-2022 05:56:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: a unicorn showed up.
13-04-2022 05:56:45 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Oh yeah, the uh... thing with the fancy radar or something?
13-04-2022 05:56:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: (a one-off T80 variant with an active defense system)
13-04-2022 05:56:54 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Oh I saw that one
13-04-2022 05:57:01 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Not a successful field test, I take it?
13-04-2022 05:57:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: 3 of the ~10 T-80 UK command tanks have been gotten.
13-04-2022 05:57:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah, perhaps.  I think that one got killed while on a truck.  ;-p
13-04-2022 05:57:30 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Ouch.
13-04-2022 05:57:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: They haven't used the Armatas, but I suspect they have nonfunctioning guns or zero armour or something.
13-04-2022 05:58:33 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I saw that they were shipping the terminator tanks, but I don't recall seeing any footage of them
13-04-2022 05:58:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: they haven't been anywhere near anywhere.
13-04-2022 05:59:31 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I figured they don't actually doo much.
13-04-2022 05:59:37 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: They do look cool though
13-04-2022 06:00:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: eh.  ;-p
13-04-2022 06:01:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: it'd get turned into beer money.
13-04-2022 06:01:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: there is a 2-day dead colonel streak going on.
13-04-2022 06:02:54 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: How is that even happening?
13-04-2022 06:03:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: two days ago was a raid, yesterday was artillery.
13-04-2022 06:03:23 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: It's not like napoleonic warfare where the officers leading a charge into cannon fire....right?
13-04-2022 06:04:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: there was some of that.
13-04-2022 06:04:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: the general they bagged at mariupol was basically doing that.
13-04-2022 06:06:19 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Alright then
13-04-2022 06:07:41 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: You know anything about the numbers of troops involved?
13-04-2022 06:09:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah.
13-04-2022 06:09:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: what do you want to know?
13-04-2022 06:10:23 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: What I *really* want to know is how much each side has left, and what the ratio has looked like up until now
13-04-2022 06:10:31 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: I know that's a complicated question, though
13-04-2022 06:10:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Mmm.
13-04-2022 06:10:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Well, and you can't call this 100% accurate..
13-04-2022 06:11:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: There's a bunch of different necessary categories.
13-04-2022 06:11:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: in terms of 'trained regulars', Russia has about 1.5:1 in terms of mainline soldiers.
13-04-2022 06:11:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: and about 2:1 in terms of equipment.
13-04-2022 06:12:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Ukraine has enough reservists and such to get equal or slightly superior numbers in terms of infantry, but some of them shouldn't count.
13-04-2022 06:12:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: mmm, well, really, 3:1 for equipment is a better ratio.
13-04-2022 06:13:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: So far, Ukraine has been slightly ahead of the odds ratios required to destroy all the russian heavy equipment before running out themselves, and has been killing infantry at about an equivalent rate.
13-04-2022 06:13:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: they've done about 20% damage or so to the attacking Russians.
13-04-2022 06:13:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: They've lost about 13-15% of their forces.
13-04-2022 06:14:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Basically, they're winning, if not super quickly, and will do so as long as they can keep air defenses active.  If they get enough russian artillery out, eventually the air force won't matter.
13-04-2022 06:14:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Russia doesn't have the doctrine to win solely through air power, so they need ground forces and artillery.
13-04-2022 06:14:59 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Those ratios look generous given the size discrepancy
13-04-2022 06:15:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Ukraine has fully mobilized.  Russia hasn't.
13-04-2022 06:15:16 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Ah
13-04-2022 06:15:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: also, Ukraine keeps more of it's population under arms, as a percentage.
13-04-2022 06:16:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: with russia you have to include a lot of security forces or unmobilized reservists to get up the numbers.
13-04-2022 06:16:23 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: So what, if anything, do you think Russia pulling back and reorganizing will change?
13-04-2022 06:16:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: They're fucked, basically.
13-04-2022 06:16:37 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: lol
13-04-2022 06:16:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: It's like this.
13-04-2022 06:17:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: They can't win an attritional battle because they're getting very badly outskirmished.
13-04-2022 06:17:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: So they have to make attacks to win.
13-04-2022 06:17:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: If they make attacks to win, they lose quicker, but have some chances.
13-04-2022 06:17:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: at this time, a quick win with an attack is no longer possible.
13-04-2022 06:18:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: so basically they're fucked unless they get a lot of new troops.
13-04-2022 06:18:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: which they can do by one of three ways.
13-04-2022 06:18:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: they can mobilize, which will turbofuck their economy, lead to all kinds of funsies, and they don't have enough decent equipment or the ability to train reservists.
13-04-2022 06:19:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Since they can't issue bonds, it'll lead to hyperinflation.
13-04-2022 06:19:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: They can try to mass-bribe people into signing up, which will be slightly less disruptive but be a good way to get their most loyal people murdered off.
13-04-2022 06:20:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: ..and might not get enough soldiers or lead to excessive pro-russian internal tension.
13-04-2022 06:20:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: ..and inflation, etc.
13-04-2022 06:20:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Or they can commit lightly-armed security forces.
13-04-2022 06:21:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Which isn't going to work and prooobably would be a good way to get replaced.
13-04-2022 06:22:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Right now they can put a decent army together, but they don't have replacements of the quality they lost.
13-04-2022 06:22:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: The next batch is reservists/conscripts in barely-repaired T-72s and insufficient logistics.
13-04-2022 06:23:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: so basically, if Ukraine wins this battle, the next question isif Russia gets to keep it's gains following 2014.
13-04-2022 06:25:31 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: What do Ukrainian logistics look like?
13-04-2022 06:25:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: They have trouble.  Significant issues.
13-04-2022 06:25:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: but it's far from fatal, mostly because they're defending.
13-04-2022 06:26:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: you don't need to make an advance of 100km.  You need to make advances of like 20.
13-04-2022 06:29:31 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: So assuming Russia fails and goes home... how much of Ukraine is left?
13-04-2022 06:30:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: hmm?
13-04-2022 06:32:31 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: The eastern half of the country's been ravaged by war, defending themselves can't be cheap, and they've got a massive humanitarian crisis spilling out of the country
13-04-2022 06:32:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: more than you think, less than you hope.  But they'll be more than a rump state.
13-04-2022 06:37:17 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Mmm, well thanks for all that
13-04-2022 06:37:33 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Very interesting
13-04-2022 06:37:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, I mean..
13-04-2022 06:38:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: we're not talking 'all is well', but winning the first battle means there iwll be a Ukraine.
13-04-2022 06:38:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: winning the second battle means there will be an eastern ukraine.. and there's no reason to consider that impossible.
13-04-2022 06:38:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: we'll see about battle #3.
13-04-2022 06:38:40 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: I was gonna say
13-04-2022 06:38:53 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: I find it hard to believe Ukraine doesn't become a heavily fortified NATO bulwark after this
13-04-2022 06:39:15 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: They're never gonna be able to relax
13-04-2022 06:39:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: It might not even join.
13-04-2022 06:39:49 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Oh?
13-04-2022 06:40:05 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: really?
13-04-2022 06:40:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Yes.
13-04-2022 06:40:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Might demand other security guarantees, might purchase significant amounts of equipment, etc.
13-04-2022 06:40:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: but if they break the Russian army, well..
13-04-2022 06:40:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Russia can't actually make anything.
13-04-2022 06:45:56 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@mj43-615-251-121.sd.sd.cox.net: Ukrainian counterinvasion, eh? XD
13-04-2022 06:47:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: No, it's more.. there isn't as much to fear.
13-04-2022 06:47:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: not many missiles left, etc.
13-04-2022 06:50:45 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I saw Finland and Sweden were thinking about joining NATO sometime this summer
13-04-2022 06:51:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: That seems extremly likely.
13-04-2022 06:51:54 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Neat.
13-04-2022 06:53:14 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I guess that's gonna put that weird Swedish fighter jet in a weird position but ah well.
13-04-2022 06:53:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: oh?
13-04-2022 06:55:54 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yeah, lemme find it, IIRC it's whole selling point is that it's cheaper then an F-16, but has close to it's abilities and it's not from NATO so it's more palatable to a lot of countries that like to play both sides. Lemme find the name of it
13-04-2022 06:56:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: there's no reason they couldn't field it.
13-04-2022 06:56:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: or build it.
13-04-2022 06:56:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: or sell it.
13-04-2022 06:56:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: NATO does not restrict countries from making arms exports.
13-04-2022 06:57:40 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I meant more of it's now from a NATO country so it's politics change in terms of countries who want to not send signals by buying it, not so much that anything else change
13-04-2022 06:57:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Eh.
13-04-2022 06:57:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: I mean.. yes?  But also no.
13-04-2022 06:58:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: It'll be fine, really.  Particularly if 'not quite as good as a F-16' is the standard..
13-04-2022 06:58:52 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Here we go. Saab JAS 39 Gripen
13-04-2022 06:59:40 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Oh huh, it's fully NATO interopable anyway
13-04-2022 06:59:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yeah it'll be fine
13-04-2022 07:04:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: mmm.
13-04-2022 07:05:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: so you want more Teranigma?  ;-p
13-04-2022 07:05:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: (not now, but later.)
13-04-2022 07:05:23 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Sure later
13-04-2022 07:06:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: There's only I think, about seven or eight dungeons to go.
13-04-2022 07:07:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: and a lot of stuff that's not dungeon.
13-04-2022 07:07:05 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yeah the game seems to move a bit faster then Tale
13-04-2022 07:09:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: hah
13-04-2022 07:09:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: here's speedrun.com's interpretation of those pants.
13-04-2022 07:09:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: https://www.speedrun.com/themeasset/e87zo7wq/background?v=620487d
13-04-2022 07:09:57 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Oh fuck it's 2AM?
13-04-2022 07:10:03 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: God damnit
13-04-2022 07:10:35 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: And I see
13-04-2022 07:10:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: those pants they be something.
13-04-2022 07:11:40 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: They are indeed
13-04-2022 07:11:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: heh, world record gets to where I am in under an hour.
13-04-2022 07:13:22 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Damn
13-04-2022 07:13:27 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Alright I should go to bedf
13-04-2022 07:13:33 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Goodnight dev
13-04-2022 07:13:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Goodseeing you Irony
13-04-2022 07:13:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: okay.
13-04-2022 07:13:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Goodnight, Jaggers.
13-04-2022 07:14:09 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: night
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13-04-2022 07:14:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Irony, do you want me to poke you for the next session?
13-04-2022 07:15:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: I'm basically playing it 'whenever MJ shows up.'
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13-04-2022 08:01:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: mm
13-04-2022 08:04:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: heya.
13-04-2022 08:04:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: annoyed at a low-quality baseball youtuber misrepresenting my favorite player.  ;-p
13-04-2022 08:05:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: No, he didn't get one of his best pitches from this other famous player.  They both threw that sort of pitch, so they simply compared grips when they were in the same place at the same time.
13-04-2022 08:05:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: he threw that pitch years before that meeting.  Learned it as part of his own interesting story.
13-04-2022 08:05:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: and it didn't 'complete' him, and there's another pitch which you could say that exact thing about with great accuracy!
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13-04-2022 08:18:22 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS
13-04-2022 08:18:22 -!- Topic set by syv [Saturday 22 May 2021, 04:44:55]
13-04-2022 08:20:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: heya.
13-04-2022 08:21:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: Mmm.
13-04-2022 08:21:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: Unsure.
13-04-2022 08:21:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: It does mean things are less tactical here.
13-04-2022 08:21:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: I'd base that decision on whether you want us to be able to target specific Four Swords heroes in the finale.
13-04-2022 08:22:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: That's the issue, yes.
13-04-2022 08:22:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: I'm fine with it happening now.
13-04-2022 08:22:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: but I don't know if I want that in the finale.
13-04-2022 08:22:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: otoh, I don't know if you''ll have a decent shot without that ability in the finale.
13-04-2022 08:22:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: I know you can win, but it might be too hard or too luck-based.
13-04-2022 08:23:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: Basing it purely off of leaving your optioms open, you *could* say that we can target any specific person here, because this isn't a close-knit/prepared party.
13-04-2022 08:24:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: Then later you could say the 4S can't be specifically targeted because they work together, or you could say they can because Trence and gang work even better together or something.
13-04-2022 08:24:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: Or because they've got a lot of experience against the 4S
13-04-2022 08:25:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: mmm.
13-04-2022 08:26:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: I think I'll rescind the rule for two reasons.
13-04-2022 08:26:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: 1.  People seem to have forgotten it, which means it is'nt something they like.
13-04-2022 08:26:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: 2.  It feels more JRPG-ish to be able to target.
13-04-2022 08:29:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: Reasonable.
13-04-2022 08:29:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: I think it's been forgotten more because it's very rarely applied.  We've had very few adventurer fights.
13-04-2022 08:30:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: I can think of the one we had with Arity.
13-04-2022 08:30:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: ...I don't recall any others.
13-04-2022 08:31:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: I suppose I lean towards rescinding it, because it makes the game less interactive, more luck based.  Becomes more "just hit them until they die"
13-04-2022 08:36:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: rawr
13-04-2022 08:36:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: okay, now gotta look up Trence's Bladeagon move list.
13-04-2022 08:53:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: and post up.
13-04-2022 08:53:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: I'm flattered that NJW looked up the blade dragon move list.
13-04-2022 09:28:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: Posted
13-04-2022 09:29:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: This feels very easy to screw up.  I don't trust Dorren.
13-04-2022 09:29:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@98.97.iim.jzq: But I don't think we can effectively focus him down.
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13-04-2022 22:23:09 < ER!smuxi@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: awoo is awooed
13-04-2022 23:57:30 < ER!smuxi@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: apparently there's a dhaos in saltybet
13-04-2022 23:58:50 < ER!smuxi@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ah, he has absurdly huge health and instantly fullheals the moment he's not staggered
13-04-2022 23:58:52 < ER!smuxi@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: very good