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19-02-2022 03:37:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Rosehearts getting a bit spammy.
19-02-2022 03:53:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: roseheart does as roseheart does
19-02-2022 03:58:56 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: oh, you action in deepspace didn't have a character sheet, Devastator
19-02-2022 03:59:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Thanks.
19-02-2022 03:59:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: ..although I don't think there will be any actual rolls.
19-02-2022 03:59:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: I think I missed something important.
19-02-2022 04:04:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: did you?
19-02-2022 04:04:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: yeah.
19-02-2022 04:05:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: I have no idea what's up with this engine.
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19-02-2022 07:50:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: allo
19-02-2022 07:50:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: allo
19-02-2022 07:50:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Extinction.
19-02-2022 07:51:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: mm
19-02-2022 07:57:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: I've already seen that Illusory Wall video, actually.
19-02-2022 07:57:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Poise makes a lot of sense to detail as an obscure mechanic, as it's one of the really big things that differentiates DS1 from the other games.
19-02-2022 08:00:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: it cares deeply about animations?
19-02-2022 08:01:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: They all do, but having your animations be impossible to interrupt (outside of the sacred backstab) is deeply valuable.
19-02-2022 08:02:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: If you know how it works and how to play accounting for it, it makes some aspects of gameplay, especially PvP, *very* different
19-02-2022 08:02:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: high skillcap, too.
19-02-2022 08:03:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Honestly, I'm uncertain there.  Poise might increase skillcap, might not.  It definitely increases gameplay variety.
19-02-2022 08:03:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: It makes armor actually matter.
19-02-2022 08:05:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: gameplay variety almost always increases skillcap.
19-02-2022 08:05:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: means you have more different kinds of encounters to deal with.
19-02-2022 08:05:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: True.
19-02-2022 08:06:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: ...Mostly I question it because DS1 comes with other flaws, which make poise worse.  For instance, backstabs.
19-02-2022 08:06:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: High poise, used well, can make it a bad idea for the enemy to attack you.  Because you can walk through the attack and backstab them.
19-02-2022 08:06:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: indeed.
19-02-2022 08:07:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: So with the poor implementation of other things, it might reduce skillcap compared to DS1 with no poise, by providing a stronger and simpler meta.  Maybe.
19-02-2022 08:08:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Elden Ring is bringing old poise back, and turned off backstabs because Fromsoft is stupid, so hopefully we'll find that it makes things better in ER.
19-02-2022 08:14:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: zero backstabs sounds iffy.
19-02-2022 08:14:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: oh, don't mention it to dubs.
19-02-2022 08:14:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: he's been saying NO SPOILERS
19-02-2022 08:16:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: That's probably a bug.
19-02-2022 08:17:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Basically, they made it so if the person trying to stab you on *your own* screen isn't directly behind you, you ignore their backstab.
19-02-2022 08:17:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: that does sound buglike.
19-02-2022 08:17:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: no backstabs if you spin your camera around.
19-02-2022 08:17:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Aaaand since basically all actions make you rotate to try and face your opponent, they will never be directly behind you.  Unless you aren't doing *anything*.
19-02-2022 08:17:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: or alternative, frontstabs if you do that.
19-02-2022 08:17:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Oh, it's based on character facing
19-02-2022 08:17:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Not camera
19-02-2022 08:18:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Sorry, meant "your own screen" as saying it's verified on the machine of the person being stabbed
19-02-2022 08:18:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: IE vulnerable to lag
19-02-2022 08:19:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: ahh.
19-02-2022 08:22:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: It's the sort of thing that in theory would work, and prevent lag from letting someone get backstabbed in the face.  Which happens in all the games.
19-02-2022 08:22:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: But in practice, it means backstabs *never* work.
19-02-2022 08:22:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: A separate, very definitely accidental bug, is that you're immune to backstabs if you're in a spellcasting animation.
19-02-2022 08:22:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: IE the one thing that you might do which causes you to be unable to turn.
19-02-2022 08:23:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: It's kinda hilarious
19-02-2022 08:23:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: that does sound ridiculous.
19-02-2022 08:24:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: There's also a bunch of glitches and abusive exploits, from DS3, none of which were patched in the Elden Ring network test.
19-02-2022 08:24:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Better, they now have an anticheat built into the game
19-02-2022 08:25:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Which ignores the many very harmful exploits, and can be bypassed to allow the really severe character abuses, if a hacker wants to
19-02-2022 08:25:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: naturally.
19-02-2022 08:25:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: does it do anything?
19-02-2022 08:26:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: But more or less prevents the community from making a communal anticheat, as they've done for the previous three games.
19-02-2022 08:26:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Well, hopefully it'll reduce the number of scriptkiddie infinite health cheating.
19-02-2022 08:27:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: welp
19-02-2022 08:28:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: The PvE in ER is amazing
19-02-2022 08:28:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Everything points towards it being the best in the series
19-02-2022 08:28:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: The PvP might be too.
19-02-2022 08:28:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: Or everyone serious might stick with DS3.
19-02-2022 08:29:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iiy.ym: If they don't fix anything short of remote code execution (assuming they fix these after relaease, which might be too optimistic), then people will likely stick with DS3.
19-02-2022 08:33:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: mmm
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19-02-2022 15:58:31 < Nikitian!Nikitian@awkexwcdq-837-304-24-706.ip.moscow.rt.ru: Hi!
19-02-2022 16:02:30 < Nikitian!Nikitian@awkexwcdq-837-304-24-706.ip.moscow.rt.ru: I just wanted to let you know that there are some issues with Jay's backstory that I'm currently sorting out with Illgeo, and unfortunately, they have fairly major plot implications, and that's what holding back the turn.
19-02-2022 16:02:51 < Nikitian!Nikitian@awkexwcdq-837-304-24-706.ip.moscow.rt.ru: I'm sorry. :(
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19-02-2022 18:50:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I have no problems with a backstabless pvp, they're dumb anyways :p
19-02-2022 19:08:01 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: though BB's interpretation of them isn't bad, wish they'd brought that back
19-02-2022 19:08:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: full charge r2 to the general vicinity of the target's back
19-02-2022 19:45:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Heya.
19-02-2022 19:45:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hello~
19-02-2022 20:15:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: one thing which I've gleaned about ER and really like is that magic like sorceries and miracles seems very tied into the world's lore this time?
19-02-2022 20:15:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: a lot more than in the dark souls games
19-02-2022 20:16:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: makes me want to start off with an int build to hopefully unravel the world's secrets
19-02-2022 20:47:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: Ooh, nifty.
19-02-2022 20:48:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: like with the symbols which pop up when you cast a spell coressponding to the school or faction that spell belongs to
19-02-2022 20:49:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: or a spell for killing undead and keeping them from getting back up, which the description seems to iply that it's locally enforcing the rule of death which was once a universal law
19-02-2022 20:50:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: while dark souls spells seem a lot less creative?
19-02-2022 20:50:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it shoots a thing, cuz magic
19-02-2022 21:34:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@vlen-7v7oi8oh7yf4vridea3i6e3b0.ipv0.telus.net: that's what magic is for.
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