16-12-2021 01:39:55 -!- mib_585oqt!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette
16-12-2021 01:47:27 < mib_585oqt!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Hmm
16-12-2021 01:47:31 -!- mib_585oqt is now known as piecewise
16-12-2021 01:47:39 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Took 5 tries to connect
16-12-2021 01:48:06 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: living in an abandoned mine in nevada sure is inconvenient sometimes. 
16-12-2021 03:43:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: oh man.
16-12-2021 03:43:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: sorry about that, piecewise.
16-12-2021 03:46:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Also, got a new format for the BC covid data.
16-12-2021 03:46:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site/Documents/COVID_sitrep/Week_48_2021_BC_COVID-19_Situation_Report.pdf
16-12-2021 03:46:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: lots of stuff.
16-12-2021 03:52:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: anyway, looks like omicron is up here, just got here in the last week or two.
16-12-2021 03:58:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: also, is your net really that bad?
16-12-2021 04:01:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Potato Internet.
16-12-2021 04:05:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: or is it like hyper-advanced and it's just allergic to Potato IRC?
16-12-2021 04:07:45 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: No idea
16-12-2021 04:07:53 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Might be firewall doesn't like IRC
16-12-2021 04:08:05 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: since multiple clients said this place didn't exist
16-12-2021 04:08:18 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Omnicron is up to 1 death so far
16-12-2021 04:08:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah.
16-12-2021 04:08:23 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: not bad
16-12-2021 04:08:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: I mean, it does look less dangerous, but I remember that being said every week cases went up.
16-12-2021 04:09:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Cases are up, but not hopitals!  Hospitalizations are up, but not deaths!  Deaths are up, but cases are trending down!
16-12-2021 04:09:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: like there's no memory or understanding that it's mostly relatively slow.
16-12-2021 04:09:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: so I'm gonna wait a bit more.
16-12-2021 04:12:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: but yeah, probably potato IRC.
16-12-2021 04:12:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: before 4chan it was the worst place on the internet.
16-12-2021 04:13:25 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Now its just an awkward ghost town
16-12-2021 04:15:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: pretty much.
16-12-2021 04:16:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: oh, not sure if you want stats or such for the little robot.
16-12-2021 04:16:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: doing the VR stuff to avoid making tech rolls just to move it around.
16-12-2021 04:18:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: which I don't know is needed in the first place.
16-12-2021 04:18:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: ahh.  ;-p
16-12-2021 04:21:04 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: The bots will be basically d4 everything and they wouldn't need control for basic actions like movement. 
16-12-2021 04:22:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: that actually seems generous for a cleanerbot.
16-12-2021 04:22:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: "Force the door, squirrel!'
16-12-2021 04:22:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: (4)
16-12-2021 04:22:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: ;-p
16-12-2021 04:23:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: mmm, could have negative life.  Say, -1d4 or something like that.
16-12-2021 04:27:35 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: negative hp would mean they cease to exist before even existing
16-12-2021 04:27:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Nah, doesn't it take like five damage to kill something?
16-12-2021 04:27:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: that would mean if they take one damage, 1/4 of the time they die from it.
16-12-2021 04:28:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: cleanerbots seem like they should be killable with stomps or punches.
16-12-2021 04:31:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: if they're harder to kill than a human, something's wrong.
16-12-2021 04:33:15 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: I just assumed any damage would destroy them
16-12-2021 04:34:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, that'd be fine too.
16-12-2021 04:43:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: next challenge:  Figure out how to use speech checks.  ;-p
16-12-2021 04:43:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: I remember the horror around them.
16-12-2021 05:03:54 < piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: ME SLEEP
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16-12-2021 05:04:44 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette
16-12-2021 05:06:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: bwuh
16-12-2021 05:06:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Overslept and was almost late for work
16-12-2021 05:06:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: uh oh.
16-12-2021 05:06:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: didja make it?
16-12-2021 05:06:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah
16-12-2021 05:06:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Virtually no traffic
16-12-2021 05:06:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: updated Extinction.
16-12-2021 05:06:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, that's an upside of night work.
16-12-2021 05:07:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Less than usual, even.
16-12-2021 05:10:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hum
16-12-2021 05:10:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The friendly party is out of potions, right?
16-12-2021 05:10:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: They have one left.
16-12-2021 05:10:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ooo, okay then
16-12-2021 05:11:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Would a smoke bomb now be leaving the other two squads alone?
16-12-2021 05:12:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: depends on what you do with it.
16-12-2021 05:12:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: but perhaps, yeah.
16-12-2021 05:19:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: We should've given our teammates spare potions.
16-12-2021 05:19:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: That would have been a solid move, yeah.
16-12-2021 05:20:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: partying up would have also done it.
16-12-2021 05:21:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Sessha told us not to
16-12-2021 05:22:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Yup.  It was for a reason, but..
16-12-2021 05:28:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The amount of leader units I can have in this game is limited by the number of cat puns I can come up with
16-12-2021 05:29:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Hah.
16-12-2021 05:29:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: so no limit?
16-12-2021 05:29:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: No, it's somewhat limiting
16-12-2021 05:29:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Though I AM somewhat surprised by how many I've made so far.
16-12-2021 05:29:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It makes me want to hold to it more.
16-12-2021 05:30:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Aneka.
16-12-2021 05:31:08 -!- MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli has joined #einsteinianroulette
16-12-2021 05:31:10 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: lo
16-12-2021 05:31:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Aneka?
16-12-2021 05:31:20 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ?
16-12-2021 05:31:28 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Who is Aneka?
16-12-2021 05:31:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: a cat pun.
16-12-2021 05:31:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: A catgirl soldier, I guess
16-12-2021 05:31:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "Anica" is a name, alright
16-12-2021 05:32:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: syv has some mechanical system of catgirl-related combat, but is limited in leader numbers by cat puns.
16-12-2021 05:32:35 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
16-12-2021 05:32:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: and heya Jaggers.
16-12-2021 05:32:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Hiya dev
16-12-2021 05:32:47 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: How're you?
16-12-2021 05:33:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: okay.
16-12-2021 05:33:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: got a big turn done in Extinction.
16-12-2021 05:33:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: decided to join Mook, due to having nothing to actually play.
16-12-2021 05:33:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
16-12-2021 05:33:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And sick
16-12-2021 05:34:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Can you think of any cat pun off of "sophia"?
16-12-2021 05:34:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Sophicat?
16-12-2021 05:34:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'd be amused to make ER shoot a char named that
16-12-2021 05:34:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It's not a pun if you just stick "cat" on the end :P
16-12-2021 05:35:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Catsiophia.
16-12-2021 05:35:12 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But it's like pussycat, just with Sophia at the begingi
16-12-2021 05:39:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Well how're you syv?
16-12-2021 05:40:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'm alright
16-12-2021 05:40:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Been working a lot
16-12-2021 05:41:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: yeah
16-12-2021 05:45:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I'm mostly just deeply pissed. The kit I've been waiting on for my project got discontinued with zero warning after telling me for months that it was just on backorder and would be filled any day now
16-12-2021 05:45:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Ice plus Water plus Blade, eh?
16-12-2021 05:46:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ?
16-12-2021 05:46:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: and ouch.
16-12-2021 05:46:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: syv suggested a dragon form.
16-12-2021 05:46:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah.
16-12-2021 05:46:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yep.
16-12-2021 05:47:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I doubt we need to conserve mana, and if we attack next round it'll be with a breath attack.
16-12-2021 05:47:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah, that will do some damage.
16-12-2021 05:47:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Part of me is tempted to use venom... but I think breath is better.  Most of these enemies are weak.
16-12-2021 05:48:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: You can also breathe venom.  ;-p
16-12-2021 05:48:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, but now I kinda have to retool my experiment to fit the new kit
16-12-2021 05:48:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: that does suck.
16-12-2021 05:48:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: I hope it doesn't mean two sets of incompatible data.
16-12-2021 05:49:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Sort of luckilly it's at such an early and integral part of my project that I don't even have data yet
16-12-2021 05:53:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: mmm.
16-12-2021 05:54:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Like my projects in 4 distinct steps, the tranformation, the expresssion, the injection, and the anlysis. This is in the transformation stage.
16-12-2021 05:54:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So it's been an incredibly fucking delay
16-12-2021 05:55:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Sounds like it.
16-12-2021 05:59:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So yeah, It's like I got stuck in a road block in the first 100 miles of a road trip and then had to reverse and replot a new course to the next leg of my journey.
16-12-2021 05:59:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: oh, speaking of that, the floods are pretty much over.  It's the cleanup and rebuilding phase now.
16-12-2021 06:00:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: there's still a bunch of big washouts to fix, and probably about three-four weeks for each.  One of them is 12 miles long.
16-12-2021 06:00:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: damn
16-12-2021 06:03:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Yup.
16-12-2021 06:03:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: hey, tis why they don't make elevated concrete highways here.
16-12-2021 06:03:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: one of them is long and one of them is a bridge, so..
16-12-2021 06:05:25 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
16-12-2021 06:10:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, not so bad.
16-12-2021 06:14:46 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah.
16-12-2021 06:15:19 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah well, I think I can get my project salvaged in a resonable amount of time. It's just gonna be a fucking huge pain
16-12-2021 06:15:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: so it goes.
16-12-2021 06:15:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: does it give you time to watch more shows?
16-12-2021 06:15:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I'm not sure
16-12-2021 06:16:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I'll have some more info tommorow hopefully
16-12-2021 06:16:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: If only because then I can get some answers from the company 
16-12-2021 06:17:01 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Namely, why the fuck did you discontinue this, Do I need to throw out my cells? and also Fuck why they fuck did you not tell me this earlier~
16-12-2021 06:17:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Don't worry.  I'm sure you'll talk to someone six degrees away from anyone who actually knows anything.  ;-p
16-12-2021 06:19:01 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah probably
16-12-2021 06:20:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But dude what's nuts is that a day ago they'd said there was one more delay, but finnally gave me an actual ETA of when it was going to be ready, and then today they're just like discontinued
16-12-2021 06:20:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: gah.
16-12-2021 06:21:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: What is it anyway?
16-12-2021 06:22:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It's essentially a Plasmid that I can use to take some DNA I have and put it into Ecoli so I can produce the protien that the DNA codes for.
16-12-2021 06:22:14 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: The kit is the plasmid and the Ecoli
16-12-2021 06:22:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, no luck there.
16-12-2021 06:22:44 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah. What sucks is this kit is really supposed to be incrediblly reliable
16-12-2021 06:23:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And I mean it failed two or three times so maybe they've had some kind of uncorectable manufacturing issues or something
16-12-2021 06:23:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: "Who contaminated the culture tank?"
16-12-2021 06:24:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: "Our cell line got invaded by HeLa!"
16-12-2021 06:24:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Heh yeah, seems to be someting like that. 
16-12-2021 06:24:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: but who knows.
16-12-2021 06:25:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: What still pisses me is that they aren't giving a refund they're giving credit.
16-12-2021 06:26:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Which is useless because that kit is literally the only thing I need from them.
16-12-2021 06:26:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ugh, but enough of me complaining, I just needed to vent a bit.
16-12-2021 06:27:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Nah, seems pretty fair.
16-12-2021 06:27:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: you lost a bunch of time.
16-12-2021 06:27:54 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah.
16-12-2021 06:28:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: I mean, an experiment going wrong, that happens, but this one you didn't even get a crack at.
16-12-2021 06:28:04 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I really did
16-12-2021 06:28:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And if they had just told me it wasn't going to happen 2 months ago I could have found a replacment with less difficulty.
16-12-2021 06:32:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: welp.
16-12-2021 06:32:56 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: yup
16-12-2021 06:41:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: well, good luck.
16-12-2021 06:41:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Thanks, I might need it
16-12-2021 06:41:25 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: night
16-12-2021 06:42:08 -!- MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli has quit []
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16-12-2021 08:19:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Heya
16-12-2021 08:28:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hey there
16-12-2021 08:32:06 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com writes up the scenario, then realizes he can actually check your units now because his faction is done
16-12-2021 08:32:22 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com realizes you have one officer, and therefore this map is probably really hard for you
16-12-2021 08:33:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Oh well I put too much work into it.
16-12-2021 08:34:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: that's fine.
16-12-2021 08:35:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Sent
16-12-2021 08:35:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: MJ gave me the scenario... kinda.  Suggested a beach landing.
16-12-2021 08:35:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: well, I'll hopefully get to at least gib someone
16-12-2021 08:35:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Lartees might be too cheap
16-12-2021 08:36:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Also, I was really expecting you to have a spider.
16-12-2021 08:36:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: For some reason.
16-12-2021 08:36:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: meow.
16-12-2021 08:37:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ...officer was a spider, but I decided fox was more bineficial
16-12-2021 08:37:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: fox, meet chickenforce.
16-12-2021 08:37:56 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: natural armor only does something when I don't buy any armor, value of terrain is unknown so the other spider trait is iffy
16-12-2021 08:44:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: paved tiles without houses are protected, but can't spawn from them?
16-12-2021 08:44:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: or are they just grass
16-12-2021 08:46:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: They're roads or something
16-12-2021 08:46:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Which is prolly dumb since house tiles likely mean suburbs
16-12-2021 08:46:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: But yes, need a house to deploy.
16-12-2021 08:58:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: moving from concealment to concealment isn't hidden is it?
16-12-2021 08:59:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes, it is.
16-12-2021 09:00:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm
16-12-2021 09:15:01 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: let's see, I think I should be able to spot them with this setup
16-12-2021 09:20:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: the futility of trying to pick tiles which give me a good view and maybe a chance for surprise CQC but the enemy might not think there's anybody there, when the GM knows where my things are by necessity.
16-12-2021 09:22:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: syv might have picked his deployment first.
16-12-2021 09:24:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: likely, but the thing about concealment is that they can still shoot you if they know where you are
16-12-2021 09:25:01 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I have a bunch of solo cat commandos with the power to be concealed on non-concealment tiles
16-12-2021 09:25:24 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: which could be really broken, if the enemy doesn't realize they're being shot at by solo cats
16-12-2021 09:36:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: mmm.
16-12-2021 09:37:08 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you start taking several silenced shots, you attack the forest over there but actually you're getting hit from three different grass tiles ;p
16-12-2021 09:42:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: I see someone is going Plan Mellowlink.
16-12-2021 09:43:11 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: big gun best gun
16-12-2021 09:43:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: doesn't it say 'nosuppress' on those?
16-12-2021 09:43:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: surely not, that would invalidate all my work~
16-12-2021 09:44:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: oh wait, nosuppress
16-12-2021 09:44:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: not nosilence
16-12-2021 09:44:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: ahh, whoops.
16-12-2021 09:45:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: only one which can't be silent is the .46 magnum, since it can't go subsonic
16-12-2021 09:45:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: got it mixed up with the silencers=suppressors
16-12-2021 09:45:39 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but yeah, subsonic enabled silencers and disabled suppression ;p
16-12-2021 09:45:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Turn sent
16-12-2021 09:45:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but this is subsonic EXPLOSIVE
16-12-2021 09:46:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes, subsonic explosives effectively suppress, they just can't take the suppress action.
16-12-2021 09:46:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: so even though I can't use the suppression *action*, I do get free suppression from just shooting at them
16-12-2021 09:46:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 15mm antitank rifle, subsonic, explosive rounds
16-12-2021 09:47:00 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: IE how to make a grenade launcher
16-12-2021 09:47:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I should probably ban suppressing non-spider AMRs
16-12-2021 09:47:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Six tile range with invisible units is... uh, strong.
16-12-2021 09:47:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you mean silencing?
16-12-2021 09:47:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes
16-12-2021 09:47:47 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: only five tile range, since sniping became impossible
16-12-2021 09:47:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ohh
16-12-2021 09:47:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: True!
16-12-2021 09:48:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hah, emergent mechanics that are good.  ;P
16-12-2021 09:51:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: 'suppressing a gun disables it's ability to suppress.'
16-12-2021 09:55:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: bit of a shame that I couldn't get grave much farther east without losing coverage to the south.
16-12-2021 09:56:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Cat view sent
16-12-2021 09:56:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: sent
16-12-2021 09:56:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: And yeah, I try to call them silencers/silenced guns
16-12-2021 09:56:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Because of the word collision with suppression.
16-12-2021 09:57:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: But I still -think- suppressor, because that's what they are!
16-12-2021 09:58:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: no they're silencers
16-12-2021 09:58:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'm not entirely sure why I didn't go for a silent toks as well
16-12-2021 09:59:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...Also I think I can still very functionally target Miss Sardine, because there's only one tile that she could be hidden in.
16-12-2021 10:00:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: could have retreated have to the woods
16-12-2021 10:00:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Sophieow would've seen her enter the tile south
16-12-2021 10:01:08 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmph
16-12-2021 10:01:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: guess I may as well have shot, then
16-12-2021 10:04:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hum
16-12-2021 10:04:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Your snipers say they have 65 precision accuracy.  Shouldn't they have 95?  Because subsonic ammo gives +30 prec
16-12-2021 10:04:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: *85
16-12-2021 10:06:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I don't know
16-12-2021 10:06:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I tried my best but I was kind of multtasking
16-12-2021 10:07:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It's fine, just checking if I forgot something
16-12-2021 10:11:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: most obscure modifier is probably +10 CQC from adding a silencer
16-12-2021 10:23:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hrm
16-12-2021 10:23:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Should suppression from explosive rounds reveal concealed targets?
16-12-2021 10:23:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: RAW says a concealed target is exposed if their tiles is *being* suppressed.
16-12-2021 10:24:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I had meant that to mean successfully suppressed, so luck and armor and such would help prevent being revealed.
16-12-2021 10:24:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: should rewrite that to say they're revealed when suppression is used on them
16-12-2021 10:24:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: or when they have suppression tokens
16-12-2021 10:24:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah, when they have suppression stacks.
16-12-2021 10:37:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Turn sent
16-12-2021 10:37:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I regret giving cats solo concealment
16-12-2021 10:37:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I love the concept
16-12-2021 10:37:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: But now everyone is concealed
16-12-2021 10:38:02 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hehe
16-12-2021 10:38:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Also, your luck is FILTHY
16-12-2021 10:38:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: which is... probably bad for me?
16-12-2021 10:38:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I can't cover the whole map in seeing concealment, so they can probably sneak past
16-12-2021 10:39:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Unfortunately they have no clue where your invisible snipers are
16-12-2021 10:40:02 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: heheheee
16-12-2021 10:40:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: This seems likely to end in a tie, with cats getting past you, and opting to not try and deal with the invisible snipers.
16-12-2021 10:40:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: well, I can always try to make them pay more for it
16-12-2021 10:40:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Though the only two paths they can take for that are the top two, and bottom two tiles...
16-12-2021 10:44:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ...hmm
16-12-2021 10:44:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: need to have the grunt start the turn on the same tile as an officer to move, right?
16-12-2021 10:44:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: or can I move to hoover one up, then take it with me?
16-12-2021 10:45:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: You can hoover with you.
16-12-2021 10:46:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: But can't exceed the officer's movement, and can't send the grunt away farther.
16-12-2021 10:46:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Because *gah* that would be something
16-12-2021 10:50:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: sent
16-12-2021 10:53:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm, yeah
16-12-2021 10:53:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 2/5 chance of failure, but hunkering would probably be worse
16-12-2021 10:54:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Annyabelle can't see the tile you're moving towards, either... I'm not sure how sight interacts with targeting concealed targets.
16-12-2021 10:55:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Maybe everything out of sight counts as concealed?
16-12-2021 11:15:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm
16-12-2021 11:15:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: do explosive shots make sound at the tile they hit? :p
16-12-2021 11:16:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes, but I don't think that matters?
16-12-2021 11:18:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: silenced artee shoots at a tile which used to hold an enemy, but they moved
16-12-2021 11:18:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you now know where the enemy thinks you are :p
16-12-2021 11:18:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes, I suppose so.
16-12-2021 11:19:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Sent
16-12-2021 11:19:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Miss really lived up to the name you gave her.
16-12-2021 11:20:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: But not as much as she needed to.  :(
16-12-2021 11:22:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...It occurs to me I let Tabbytha roll on FF at range 4.  Whoops.  At least she failed.
16-12-2021 11:23:02 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: do I lose without having a commander or will the rest play out?
16-12-2021 11:23:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'm not actually doing the turns.
16-12-2021 11:23:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Honestly, I think the cats really would just retreat here.  They don't know that there's no more commanders.
16-12-2021 11:24:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: So... mission success, I think?
16-12-2021 11:24:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: brilliant
16-12-2021 11:24:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: victory in death~
16-12-2021 11:25:23 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and proof that interspeciated forces are pretty good, I guess
16-12-2021 11:25:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: grave didn't get to do anything, maybe should have had just two splatterguard and add one or two bodyguards for miss
16-12-2021 11:26:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Or just gave splatters officer training
16-12-2021 11:26:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Officer training AND bodyguards!
16-12-2021 11:27:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hm. miss cost me 20, three officer training is 15... >.>
16-12-2021 11:29:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Eh, well.  What did you think?
16-12-2021 11:29:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: *I* think tile systems are cumbersome.  :(
16-12-2021 11:30:37 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it's fun if I'm not doing most of the work~
16-12-2021 11:33:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I think it would be okay in more of a campaign setting, with simplified unit movement/command mechanics during encounters.  Or just... as an infrequently updated game, with a better workflow.
16-12-2021 11:34:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The sheer freedom of choice in spending resources is bad, and is a bit bookkeeping heavy as well.  But both of those would be better if the player were more limited.
16-12-2021 11:37:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...Think if I were to stick to the tile system, I'd also remove weapon ranges.  Make range just change your skill.
16-12-2021 11:37:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Possibly rebalance the numbers some.
16-12-2021 11:44:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I don't know how to engineer a workflow
16-12-2021 11:45:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Just do it a bunch of times until you're used to doing it, basically
16-12-2021 11:51:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Maybe I will turn Extinction's combat system into a Nyafor tactical system
16-12-2021 11:57:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: why is my irc no longer making a noise when you send something
16-12-2021 12:00:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: Extinction has a non-symmetrical combat system.
16-12-2021 12:01:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Exactly.
16-12-2021 12:04:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssu-7j7qr8bh2dp9oxvnxjg5r2tcm.ipv0.telus.net: It's also incredibly clunky when dealing with too many characters.
16-12-2021 12:04:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: surely there's an elegant way to have a squad using different weapons without being too complex to think about. :p
16-12-2021 12:05:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I should try running it sometime, then~
16-12-2021 12:05:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The issue with Nyafor isn't the squad mechanics, IMO.  It's the map and status effects.
16-12-2021 12:06:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: bear in mind I still need room to implement vehicles ;p
16-12-2021 12:06:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Could cut out suppression and concealment/vision.
16-12-2021 12:06:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: perhaps vehicles being an off-map thing
16-12-2021 12:06:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Vehicles are kind've godly in infantry combat, unless you make them unusually squishy.
16-12-2021 12:06:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: since they're pretty much on a higher scale than the infantry combat
16-12-2021 12:07:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: besically giving support fire from off map or fighting each other in a more abstracted way, say if they get too close they're likely to get bullied by LAWs
16-12-2021 12:08:37 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: while also player vehicles act as a cap to how many soldiers they can have
16-12-2021 12:09:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I might try to shrink Nyafor's play mechanics.
16-12-2021 12:10:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Instead of the large map with terrain, reduce it to a small gridmap built more around points of interest.
16-12-2021 12:10:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: All units only move one tile, vision range of 2, say.
16-12-2021 12:11:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 8x8 chess board maps, very elegant yes
16-12-2021 12:11:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: well, my bridge map was 8x7 and still pretty hard to run
16-12-2021 12:12:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It still had high movement and ranges, though.
16-12-2021 12:12:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah
16-12-2021 12:13:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The actual play area for this map was really much smaller than the map.  Trouble was in how much units spread out, and all the varioud mechanics mixing together.
16-12-2021 12:14:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: was it annoying to run?
16-12-2021 12:15:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I probably *would* have used more of the map, had I kept my commander alive
16-12-2021 12:15:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: kind of broke my ability to defend in depth when she got seen immediately.
16-12-2021 12:18:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It was, yeah.
16-12-2021 12:18:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Some of it was using maptool.
16-12-2021 12:18:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Though I also liked part of that, eh
16-12-2021 12:22:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: oh, do you remember Voice??
16-12-2021 12:22:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Uhhh
16-12-2021 12:22:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I had a thought relating to that
16-12-2021 12:23:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I remember *the name*
16-12-2021 12:23:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: perplexicon-like, open world.
16-12-2021 12:23:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ahhh
16-12-2021 12:23:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes?
16-12-2021 12:23:42 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: a fairly young world, the player are the first ones given magic
16-12-2021 12:23:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and there was a shared dream, which is the only way to regain mana
16-12-2021 12:24:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ...was thinking of how the characters are given words
16-12-2021 12:24:49 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: if the gods just hand them a tome, it would seem a little dickish if they didn't include any translations
16-12-2021 12:24:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: How?
16-12-2021 12:24:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ah, heh.
16-12-2021 12:25:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Well, the gods can be dicks.
16-12-2021 12:25:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but it would be a good thing to tie into the Dream
16-12-2021 12:26:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: basically, the dream is a room, one central room under a lotus, and then side passages, with the walls having the words on them
16-12-2021 12:26:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you remember the symbols from the dream, know how to say them
16-12-2021 12:26:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ooo
16-12-2021 12:26:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: That works!
16-12-2021 12:26:49 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but since it's a dream, you kind of have to work to remember things
16-12-2021 12:27:08 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: limited number of words you can learn per day?
16-12-2021 12:27:37 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also each wall of the dream is the equivalent of a page in the perlexicon, different kinds of words on each wall
16-12-2021 12:29:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Limiting the number of words learned might be interesting.  Hm
16-12-2021 12:29:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: though it's both a word per day limit and mana per day limit
16-12-2021 12:30:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I came up with the mana per day limit as a cap on explerimentation assuming they got the whole book to start with
16-12-2021 12:31:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but if there's two limits and you have to use it to find out then having like, more Memory than Channeling would just be bad
16-12-2021 12:31:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and I suppose Memory would fall off in usefulness eventually
16-12-2021 12:33:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I dislike memory being a stat
16-12-2021 12:34:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah, I suppose that can just be left out
16-12-2021 12:35:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: another interesting element is that the PCs are the only ones with access to the Dream, which gives them mana. But, NPCs are also to hold mana and learn words.
16-12-2021 12:35:39 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: so more mana cap would also let you share more with allies
16-12-2021 12:42:56 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm
16-12-2021 12:43:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Have to leave work now
16-12-2021 12:43:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: haha no overcomplexity here haha
16-12-2021 12:43:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: seeya
16-12-2021 12:43:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Seeya later
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