14-12-2021 00:23:40 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Here again 14-12-2021 00:23:52 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: I got work ER! 14-12-2021 00:24:02 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Patients ain't gonna irradiate themselves 14-12-2021 04:03:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: heya Piecewise. 14-12-2021 04:03:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, you gotta zap them. 14-12-2021 04:03:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: anyway, I think I have a proper character concept for Mook. 14-12-2021 04:04:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: get a batch of small furry robots as pets. Like a robot squirrel squadron. Have like tiny knives or whatever built into them. 14-12-2021 04:04:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: get them to attack a smell or a colour or something, and shoot people with a small paintball gun. 14-12-2021 04:04:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: keep a little pocket override that can be used to stop them, so I get a save in case of critfail. 14-12-2021 04:05:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: and get someone to program a control set into a VR helmet so I can use one as a scout or something. 14-12-2021 04:05:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: most of it would take programming work, but could maybe talk researchers, and it might be cost-effective that way. A killer squirrel program could be cheap when done for like fifteen squirrels. 14-12-2021 04:25:35 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: That is...a plan 14-12-2021 04:25:46 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: I don't know how well it will compare to a gun 14-12-2021 04:25:51 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: but it is a method 14-12-2021 04:26:09 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-12-2021 04:26:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Hey, Piecewise. Call of Earth when? 14-12-2021 04:29:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: It'll be inferior to gun, but everyone has gun. 14-12-2021 04:29:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: need something to differentiate myself. 14-12-2021 04:30:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: truth is, it's mostly so I can have a method where I pawn off the difficult rolls, like programming them, to ones doable before the mission. 14-12-2021 04:30:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: so I can have stuff that works without maxing that stat. 14-12-2021 04:33:03 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Hey sy. Last Mook mission was me testing out ideas for open world 14-12-2021 04:33:17 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: still working on it, though school kind of slowed me down a fair bit 14-12-2021 04:33:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, if I get gun, it'll be three missions before getting a d12, and then I'd need armour to stand in the line. 14-12-2021 04:33:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: just way too much to catch up on. With weird stuff I can make some use of it early on, and then it'll be different later on. 14-12-2021 04:34:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, I'd get to stand next to your char, or RC, and do what they do but far worse. 14-12-2021 04:35:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Yeah, I recall you saying Detroit was a test for CoE. Which is why I'm asking; I've been looking forward to CoE for -awhile- 14-12-2021 04:35:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: besides, if I build it right I might get to have like 10 or 12 guaranteed damage, which could be pretty reliable. 14-12-2021 04:36:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Will it be before Elden Ring? :< 14-12-2021 04:37:23 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Probably not. I'm a bit flummoxed with the system and don't want to spend hundreds of hours making a setting only for the player count to drop to 2 14-12-2021 04:38:09 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: I have enough setting to go for a while though I just need to figure out how the hell to make it not a chore to explore 14-12-2021 04:39:22 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: MIA was all about forward movement in terms of the actual story, though the entire setup is people going in and out 14-12-2021 04:39:38 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: I don't think players will like going in and out over and over 14-12-2021 04:40:11 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: even with the environment system designed to produce different encounters 14-12-2021 04:51:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: `roll 1d10 14-12-2021 04:51:02 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Devastator rolled 1d10: 4 14-12-2021 04:54:56 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Well, had to kick oz from discord today 14-12-2021 04:55:33 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: first person I unironically kicked. Kicked people a couple times as a joke but he was going real GWG 14-12-2021 04:58:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Yeah, Oz is... not a great individual. 14-12-2021 04:59:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: I forget whether or not I banned him here. Might've not, just because it's so easy to get around IRC bans. 14-12-2021 05:00:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: If you want help with the system, that *is* my specialty. :3 14-12-2021 05:00:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Could do some small scale private tests, see how it rolls out, and then adjust. 14-12-2021 05:04:58 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: I suppose the issue isn't the mechanics so much as...what to do 14-12-2021 05:05:47 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: How to give direction, how to make expeditions not seem like a chore when it comes to heading back or whatever 14-12-2021 05:06:12 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Because realistically you don't want to just wave your hands and say everyone got back 14-12-2021 05:06:34 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: I tried to get around that with some Dark Souls style short cuts, but its still not perfect 14-12-2021 05:06:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Hmmm. 14-12-2021 05:07:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Do you have a good progression system? A way for players to feel rewarded, ideally without becoming OP? 14-12-2021 05:10:03 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: A few things really. Mapping, cataloging/ capturing flora and fauna, artifact gathering, etc 14-12-2021 05:10:58 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Surgical implants, mutations, and such as physical progression 14-12-2021 05:11:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Artifacts seem good. A lot of potential for tools that aren't passive. 14-12-2021 05:11:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Are you using a mutations system anything like those in WIZARDS/Infinite Kowloon? 14-12-2021 05:12:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: I still really love those 14-12-2021 05:12:33 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Yeah, more or less 14-12-2021 05:14:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Maybe for traveling, you could have a system that tracks "security" of paths? With actions taking place on those paths improving their security. Make it so you plot a route back, and a roll happens at every segment of the path, with higher security reducing the chance of an encounter? 14-12-2021 05:14:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: That would naturally mean areas which are seen more often become less likely to have stuff happen, so will get skipped more often. 14-12-2021 05:15:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Hm, could have the issue of players just pounding out a safe path, too... though I'm unsure how bad that would be, necessarily. 14-12-2021 05:16:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Some kinda random events that draw attention to certain areas, with promises of rewards, would help a lot with that. Especially if it's interesting to plot a route through known areas, to a new point of interest. 14-12-2021 05:17:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: I'm guessing you already came up with something like that, judging by the weapon drops in Detroit 14-12-2021 05:19:27 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: The paths idea is a good one I think, though more likely than not it would be more of a 'We learned the dangers and how to avoid them" than "We made it safe" 14-12-2021 05:19:39 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: You don't really make it safe in there without some serious work 14-12-2021 05:20:04 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: But maybe visiting areas and exploring them would make movement through them in the future safer 14-12-2021 05:25:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: It's also make for a nice general goal. 14-12-2021 05:25:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: "Find/make a path down" 14-12-2021 05:26:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: If you set it up so there's better and worse paths, that could even work well as a generic goal. "Find a better path farther down" 14-12-2021 05:27:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Is it a vertical cylinder, or more linear? More open? 14-12-2021 05:29:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: ...Repeated myself above. I meant a good goal for a mission--if a player needs direction, they can just get a mission to explore virtually any difficulty level location wirh the excuse of "find a better path through/see if it's better than the path we have" 14-12-2021 05:31:24 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: I have the idea of a sort of quest board giving goals as well 14-12-2021 05:31:48 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Since the players are explorers, there would be people who want specific things to be done 14-12-2021 05:33:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: I think that alone would improve things a lot over Cabal. Dunno what to do? Look at tasks, do quest, get reward. 14-12-2021 05:33:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: If the quests are tied to the gameworld, it'll give a good sense of progression beyond even personal character growth. 14-12-2021 05:33:34 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: As per map shape, it is a pit, but with layers 14-12-2021 05:33:40 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: some larger, some smaller 14-12-2021 05:34:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: That just needs... like, a good crunch system for encounters, I guess? And there, I have *no idea* what you're doing, or what would be good. 14-12-2021 05:34:39 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: I should probably do a small scale test 14-12-2021 05:36:55 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: My school ends this week and I'll be spending the holidays at my sister's house. Maybe I can try and get something together by the new year. 14-12-2021 05:37:07 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: At least a system and small area to test 14-12-2021 05:37:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: :3 14-12-2021 05:37:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Please try! I'd love to get a peak 14-12-2021 05:37:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Peek 14-12-2021 05:50:24 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: I'll do my best 14-12-2021 05:50:27 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: For now, sleep 14-12-2021 05:50:36 -!- Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14-12-2021 05:50:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg: Night, Dubs. 14-12-2021 07:03:08 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.qyq.jg has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14-12-2021 07:17:26 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-12-2021 07:48:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: heya syv. 14-12-2021 07:48:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: oh, you lucked out. 14-12-2021 07:48:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: odds were 2/3 it was a buff vial. 14-12-2021 07:49:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: it wasn't. 14-12-2021 07:49:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: heya dev. 14-12-2021 07:49:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Hahahaha 14-12-2021 07:49:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: *Wow* 14-12-2021 07:49:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Would have been GROUP HASTE. 14-12-2021 07:49:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: (I figure it'd be more likely to be in a vault. 14-12-2021 07:49:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Yeah, that'd have been an awful mistake. 14-12-2021 07:50:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Pity. Either way, it'd have been better to keep and identify. 14-12-2021 07:50:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Didn't even oneshot the archer group! 14-12-2021 07:52:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: yeah. 14-12-2021 07:52:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: it was terrain-based damage. 14-12-2021 07:52:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: 'Grass' isn't the best terrain. 14-12-2021 07:53:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: anyway, you can probably reproduce them if you work at it. 14-12-2021 08:00:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: "reproduce"? 14-12-2021 08:01:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: yes. 14-12-2021 08:01:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: make more terrain damage vials. 14-12-2021 08:02:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: it's up to you if it involves any messy business. ;-p 14-12-2021 08:56:52 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-12-2021 09:00:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Hello, Eggshell Rictus! 14-12-2021 09:03:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hi 14-12-2021 09:03:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: How are ypu feeling? 14-12-2021 09:04:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hm 14-12-2021 09:05:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: dreams 14-12-2021 09:05:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Dreams? 14-12-2021 09:06:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yes, I was asleep~ 14-12-2021 09:09:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I dreamed that I used some kind of wall mounted machine and gave it some of my blood to make a mystery gizmo. which was just a flimsy black plastic box with a little button on it 14-12-2021 09:09:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: What did the button do 14-12-2021 09:09:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: then something killed me but before dying I pressed the button and saw that it gave the enemy a red weapon bugg 14-12-2021 09:10:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Hm 14-12-2021 09:11:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: That'd be a neat enemy. One which, if not killed but reduced to critical health, will suicidally explode with a spell that both damages and buffs you. Giving a motivation to leave it alive at low health, sometimes. 14-12-2021 09:35:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: bleb 14-12-2021 09:36:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'd like to say that in call of earth it'd be really cool to set up deep outposts as a way to make certain paths safer, but PW doesn't seem to think outposts should be a thing. 14-12-2021 09:37:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: perhaps the whole place is too roadside picnic for anybody to be able to stay there 14-12-2021 09:39:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: maybe it rearranges itself. 14-12-2021 09:39:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: That would be awesome 14-12-2021 09:42:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Extinction update. 14-12-2021 10:09:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Carina... 14-12-2021 10:09:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Yes, that would be her. 14-12-2021 10:09:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: stab, steal boots 14-12-2021 10:11:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: "Hi, I have waaay too many HP and I hit like two trucks." 14-12-2021 10:12:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: gimme ur boots 14-12-2021 10:13:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: not the cloak she's named after? 14-12-2021 10:14:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: the boots? 14-12-2021 10:14:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: double slash, one for each leg 14-12-2021 10:14:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, hell, they have an artifact each. 14-12-2021 10:14:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Yeah, need to take her cloak and give it to Sessha. 14-12-2021 10:14:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: What DOES her cloak do, though? 14-12-2021 10:14:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Oh, my sweet summer child.. 14-12-2021 10:14:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: her mutlihit attack is a proper hit group. 14-12-2021 10:15:19 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop blinks 14-12-2021 10:15:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: So? 14-12-2021 10:15:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Ok. 14-12-2021 10:15:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Willis has a hitgroup that's not even tiring. It's meh. 14-12-2021 10:16:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, it's been too long since you've faced her. 14-12-2021 10:17:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Note, I wasn't even actively participating at the time. 14-12-2021 10:17:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: well, her hitgroup hits about as hard as the three light lancers do, if each one of them hit every target. 14-12-2021 10:18:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Carina is the team's DPS. 14-12-2021 10:18:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Yeah? So? 14-12-2021 10:18:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Is that hitgroup skill sourced from her cloak...? 14-12-2021 10:18:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: ... 14-12-2021 10:18:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Man, this is impressive. 14-12-2021 10:18:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: nah, never mind. 14-12-2021 10:19:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: the cloak is basically just three magic items together. 14-12-2021 10:19:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: She's strong and hits hard, it's what I'd expect of a maxed DPS unit. 14-12-2021 10:19:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: nah, I'm just going to watch this play out. 14-12-2021 10:20:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: I'll tell you what the cloak does if you get it. 14-12-2021 10:20:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: We won't get it though 14-12-2021 10:21:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: aight, fair enough. 14-12-2021 10:22:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: I recall it summoned a snake, which seems kinda underwhelming. I guess if that's an every-battle ability it's pretty nice. 14-12-2021 10:22:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: I recall noticing that it mentioned a clasp, which sounded like a paired item... but that would still imply a second boon on top of snake. 14-12-2021 10:22:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: But there didn't seem to be anything else obviously sourced from the cloak? Resistances that we didn't see, maybe? 14-12-2021 10:23:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: it's an accessory that has three effects. One is simply a bonus accessory slot, so the cloak is basically a free item. Second is it stores three spells in one go. One of them can be contigency to get a multi-spell contigency, or it can be used to cast all three spells at once. The third is indeed less visible benefits. 14-12-2021 10:25:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: So the cloak held her berserk effect? 14-12-2021 10:26:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, it was Contigency casting berzerk and the snake summon. 14-12-2021 10:27:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: So the clasp had a non-snek effect 14-12-2021 10:28:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Do note that in her intro I did not give her her normal actions on that same turn. 14-12-2021 10:28:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: normally she'd take two actions at the same time as getting that effect. 14-12-2021 10:30:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Sessha with spell storing would be kinda meh, honestly. She doesn't know Contingency, so it's just a triple cast... which would be her most powerful move, but once a battle? 14-12-2021 10:30:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Does it preserve mana over multiple days? 14-12-2021 10:31:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Would Willis with Carina's cloak be a MIRV? 14-12-2021 10:31:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: no, it doesn't save mana or preserve spells a long time, hence her choice of berzerk and summon snake on the boat. 14-12-2021 10:31:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: she has those spells natively. 14-12-2021 10:32:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Damn 14-12-2021 10:32:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: It'd bw awesome if Willis could triple cast absolute zero 14-12-2021 10:32:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: "Hi, Spar. Do you have cold immunity?" 14-12-2021 10:32:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: perish 14-12-2021 10:32:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: "No, only resistance." 14-12-2021 10:32:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: "Then it doesn't matter. Goodbye." 14-12-2021 10:32:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: umm, lemme do the math on that. 14-12-2021 10:33:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Assuming Meditation applies too. 14-12-2021 10:33:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: It wouldn't, actually. 14-12-2021 10:33:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: it'd trigger on the first spell. 14-12-2021 10:33:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Then that's sad 14-12-2021 10:33:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: but not the next two. 14-12-2021 10:33:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: but I should do the math on it, I'm not sure if that'd one shot her. 14-12-2021 10:33:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: it's a pile of damage but she's tough. 14-12-2021 10:34:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: If Willis were level 15, would that change? 14-12-2021 10:34:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: need to do the math. 14-12-2021 10:34:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: It would, actually. 14-12-2021 10:35:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Med Absolute Zero + Absolute Zero + Absolute Zero is about 50% overkill. 14-12-2021 10:35:37 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: just chug potions mid cloakcast 14-12-2021 10:35:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: That said, her gear on the boat had no cold resistance. 14-12-2021 10:36:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: If she had one rank it'd about zero her HP, and I'd need to look at it more carefully to determine if she's down or just up. 14-12-2021 10:36:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: two ranks and she'd be Badly Wounded. 14-12-2021 10:37:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Willis is scary 14-12-2021 10:37:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: I would expect in the party fight Dorren will have everyone with an Elemental Shield. 14-12-2021 10:37:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Willis does a ton of damage. 14-12-2021 10:37:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Trence is also scary. 14-12-2021 10:37:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: granting a bonus rank. He did that in his encounter, so you can probably expect that to be in the party fight. 14-12-2021 10:37:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Only as a dragon. 14-12-2021 10:37:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: "only" 14-12-2021 10:38:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: If Willis had a crossbow, would that disable his hitgroup? 14-12-2021 10:38:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, the kid wouldn't be that scary if he couldn't turn into a wide range of brokenly powerful forms. 14-12-2021 10:38:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: It wouldn't, actually. 14-12-2021 10:38:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: he'd have to reload it next round, but it would work. 14-12-2021 10:39:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: skills are weird. 14-12-2021 10:58:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: that said, it's possible I might chang emy mind and grant Willis a replacement skill. 14-12-2021 11:24:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Apparently in 1969 they experimented with 50 BMG flechette rounds which could go through two feet of concrete. 14-12-2021 11:24:56 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: nice 14-12-2021 11:26:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Interestingly, they had a muzzle velocity a bit below 1400 m/s, which is close to where projectiles tend to top out, from my memory. 14-12-2021 11:27:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Sadly, it was one flechette per cartridge. They don't seem to have tried to make multiple, creating long range anti-materiel shotgun flechette cartridges. 14-12-2021 11:27:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Which is logical. That's a bad idea. 14-12-2021 11:27:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Buuuuuut 14-12-2021 11:27:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but would wolves do it? :p 14-12-2021 11:27:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: It's cool enough that I'm putting it in Nyafor 14-12-2021 11:28:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Actually, I think cats would. It's mechanically actually a good idea... if you use it with their AMR. 14-12-2021 11:28:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: And really need ridiculous AP in CQC. 14-12-2021 11:28:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: best time for it. 14-12-2021 11:33:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: Arity understood that. 14-12-2021 11:34:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: big gun for big targets~ 14-12-2021 12:06:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: let's see, should I stop mindlessly switching between different website now? 14-12-2021 12:06:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Yes. 14-12-2021 12:07:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: let's see, get a drink, then play shadow tactics? 14-12-2021 12:07:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Ooo, yes 14-12-2021 12:07:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: And tell me how it goes 14-12-2021 12:15:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hooray for irish breakfast tea 14-12-2021 12:18:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm, voices in english or japanese. important choice. :p 14-12-2021 12:19:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: English, because there's unsubtitled speech. 14-12-2021 12:22:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: neenja 14-12-2021 12:27:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Indeed. 14-12-2021 12:28:14 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: running counter of how long it's been since I've saved 14-12-2021 12:28:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: which is both reassuring and stressful :p 14-12-2021 12:35:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Yeah this is a game where you want to save A LOT 14-12-2021 12:35:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: how unfair. the enemies don't get to save 14-12-2021 12:39:11 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah, showing how samurai dude is useful by having him kill three dudes at once in a cutscene 14-12-2021 12:40:42 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you know, I can appreciate a game which gets to the point quickly 14-12-2021 12:42:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: The first level is really rather difficult for a tutorial level. 14-12-2021 12:42:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: not bad so far 14-12-2021 12:43:00 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: might have been harder if I weren't familiar with the gameplay though 14-12-2021 12:45:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: oh wait, the map just got bigger :p 14-12-2021 12:45:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: the real dark souls starts here 14-12-2021 12:47:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: The segment where two strawhats guard a door was where I tripped up. Got seen and backup enemies started pouring out. 14-12-2021 12:58:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: oh, he can kill two dudes, and carry two dudes 14-12-2021 12:58:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: convenient 14-12-2021 13:00:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Very. 14-12-2021 13:08:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hell yeah old man sniper 14-12-2021 13:14:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: He's amazing 14-12-2021 13:14:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Best distraction skill AND best attacks 14-12-2021 13:14:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Just OP 14-12-2021 13:14:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but limited ammo o-o 14-12-2021 13:15:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you know I'm gonna hoard the hell out of those bullets 14-12-2021 13:16:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: You can get more, and bullets are best used through a level. 14-12-2021 13:17:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Just removing a single unit of five can -substantially- simplify an area. 14-12-2021 13:17:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: many cuts, one death :) 14-12-2021 13:20:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: huh, I moused over a random civilian doctor, who has a name 14-12-2021 13:20:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: plot incoming 14-12-2021 13:22:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Actually, no. A lot of random characters are named after staff, as easter eggs. 14-12-2021 13:26:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hehehehe 14-12-2021 13:26:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: was having trouble finding a way, but then I figured out I could snipe something to kill three guys 14-12-2021 13:27:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and the game didn't tell me to do that 14-12-2021 13:27:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: very good 14-12-2021 13:27:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Yeah, it's got a bunch of subtle stuff like that 14-12-2021 13:31:48 -!- Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-12-2021 13:32:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: I hope you slept 14-12-2021 13:33:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: beat level 1 14-12-2021 13:33:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I never got hurt or discovered, by reloading every time that happened~ 14-12-2021 13:47:49 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hey Piecewise 14-12-2021 13:48:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: That's mostly how the game goes. 14-12-2021 13:48:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yup 14-12-2021 13:49:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: I only ran into a situation where I felt I *had* to accept damage and discovery on the very last level of the game. 14-12-2021 13:49:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also, no giving commands while paused 14-12-2021 13:49:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: shadow mode is just a queue 14-12-2021 13:49:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: v.v 14-12-2021 13:52:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: knife girl 14-12-2021 13:56:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Knife girl! 14-12-2021 13:56:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Knife girl is kill girl. 14-12-2021 13:57:02 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: drags slowly though 14-12-2021 13:57:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Pretty much the most useful char, IMO. 14-12-2021 13:57:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: The slow drag is actually very good. Because she's crouched when dragging. 14-12-2021 14:10:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: "this is fun!" 14-12-2021 14:12:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Does she say that when murdering people? 14-12-2021 14:12:42 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: just when moving 14-12-2021 14:12:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ...but that whole objective is murdering people 14-12-2021 14:16:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: ...Does it use the same voice lines for moving when dragging a corpse? 14-12-2021 14:17:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: All the characters struck me as a bit psychotic. 14-12-2021 14:18:46 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: well, they're all killers 14-12-2021 14:19:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Even more psychotic than normal. 14-12-2021 14:19:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: darn, making an accident and then setting a trap on the body wasn't sneaky enough 14-12-2021 14:20:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: There's a level where you have to sneak through an *allied* war encampment to tell your faction's leader something or other... and you can murder every soldier and civilian in the place without any penalty whatsoever. All of them being your allies, who just don't realize you aren't enemy ninja. 14-12-2021 14:21:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: And you can do it with that girl happily chatting about how fun this is, and the ninja guy smugly commenting on his own prowess. 14-12-2021 14:23:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: there, that's better 14-12-2021 14:40:07 < Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com: Heading out into the snow, back this afternoon 14-12-2021 14:41:04 -!- Piecewise!Mibbit@957-810-052-976.res.spectrum.com has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14-12-2021 14:41:49 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: well that took a lot of tries 14-12-2021 14:41:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but it worked, dammit 14-12-2021 14:42:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: not I can take out the last officer :D 14-12-2021 14:44:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: most kills: yuki 14-12-2021 14:55:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: finished playing for now 14-12-2021 14:59:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Yeah, Yuki is strong 14-12-2021 14:59:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop: Trap > shuriken, whistle > rock 14-12-2021 14:59:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it seems you're not supposed to put a trap in a bush, whistle, and then stay in that same bush 14-12-2021 14:59:39 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but I did it anyways~ 14-12-2021 15:00:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: rock is useful rarely enough that I forget that I have it 14-12-2021 15:00:24 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and try to provoke a bull with a shuriken 14-12-2021 15:22:13 -!- Stopped log service 14-12-2021 15:22:44 -!- Started log service 14-12-2021 15:22:59 -!- parisbre56[Away]!parisbre56@wkm145269192513.access.hol.gr has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-12-2021 15:22:59 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS 14-12-2021 15:22:59 -!- Topic set by syv [Saturday 22 May 2021, 04:44:55] 14-12-2021 15:46:36 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.iii.pop has quit [Quit: FuckAT&T] 14-12-2021 16:45:32 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14-12-2021 16:48:30 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-12-2021 16:53:56 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14-12-2021 17:30:05 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-12-2021 18:04:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: I read the stats on RC's avatar suit. 14-12-2021 18:04:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdtr-5d9eo9af5zc8srs39zleas5d4.ipv6.telus.net: ..if he gets that back for free, with no death consequences, I don't think I'll play more than one mission of Mook. 14-12-2021 18:10:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: auditors seem to be arbitrarilly OP 14-12-2021 18:10:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: so kind of a dumb thing to give to players but whatever 14-12-2021 18:53:35 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]