03-12-2021 03:13:13 -!- MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli has joined #einsteinianroulette
03-12-2021 03:13:14 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: lo
03-12-2021 03:13:24 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hey
03-12-2021 03:14:12 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: how're you?
03-12-2021 03:14:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: sick!
03-12-2021 03:14:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah that sucks, I just got over being sick
03-12-2021 03:19:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So aside from being sick what've you been up to ER?
03-12-2021 03:19:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I wrote a thing
03-12-2021 03:19:56 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: oh?
03-12-2021 03:20:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: or part of a thing at least
03-12-2021 03:20:28 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: what's the thing?
03-12-2021 03:33:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Heya.
03-12-2021 03:33:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Do the thing!
03-12-2021 03:34:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: also, MidJag, might need you to tiebreak in extinction.
03-12-2021 03:34:58 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: oh?
03-12-2021 03:35:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: yeah, facing a choice.
03-12-2021 03:35:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
03-12-2021 03:35:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Can join a temprary party, lose access to 2/3 the party inventory, and you'd get to issue orders to six people for a prolongued combat.
03-12-2021 03:36:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Or can not join the party, be sending orders for Trence only, and lie to people.
03-12-2021 03:37:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: hmm
03-12-2021 03:37:24 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: This party, does it involve alchol?~
03-12-2021 03:37:29 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I'm joking
03-12-2021 03:37:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But hmm
03-12-2021 03:38:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Do we get to pick which parts we lose accsses to?
03-12-2021 03:38:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Nope.  It's also 'you keep a third', not a 33% chance of keeping any item.
03-12-2021 03:38:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Right.
03-12-2021 03:38:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: it represents just what's in Trence's backpack.
03-12-2021 03:38:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: which is hammerspace as long as he's in the main party.
03-12-2021 03:38:44 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah, collapsing the hammerspace
03-12-2021 03:38:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
03-12-2021 03:38:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Always dangerous
03-12-2021 03:39:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: also, the other party members get to see his skills, including "Dragon Form."
03-12-2021 03:39:23 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: These people, are they friendly?
03-12-2021 03:39:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And by friendly I mean not going to sell us out to the inquisition?
03-12-2021 03:42:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Well..
03-12-2021 03:42:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: right now you're on the ground, waiting for your chance to retreat through a door in the upperside wall.
03-12-2021 03:43:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: there's a couple hundred friendlies and about a thousand horse archers.
03-12-2021 03:43:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: the seige is on, currently.
03-12-2021 03:43:47 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Okay better quesiton I can't remebr if people still rember what dragons are in this world
03-12-2021 03:44:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: No, basically nobody knows what dragons are, but Trence did show a couple of other people earlier.
03-12-2021 03:44:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: not these people.
03-12-2021 03:44:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: A guy I made in imitation of Helmet Guy from RE:Zero.
03-12-2021 03:44:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Sick
03-12-2021 03:44:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Helmet guy is great
03-12-2021 03:45:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.  The one in the show is called Al, but I decided to literally name this guy Guy.
03-12-2021 03:45:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: so I can call him Helmet Guy and be correct.  ;-p
03-12-2021 03:45:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Lol
03-12-2021 03:51:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: yeah.
03-12-2021 03:51:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: so they're basically friendly.
03-12-2021 03:51:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: any more questions?
03-12-2021 03:52:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Do they seem friendly enough they would share any post battle booze?
03-12-2021 03:52:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: !
03-12-2021 03:52:21 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ^~
03-12-2021 03:52:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Pretty much, yeah.
03-12-2021 03:53:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Do remember, though, Trence is immune to poison.
03-12-2021 03:53:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: so he can't actually get drunk.
03-12-2021 03:53:22 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That is horribly dissapointing
03-12-2021 03:53:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: hey, he got some drinking done before he was immune.  ;-p
03-12-2021 03:54:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Well that's something at least~
03-12-2021 03:54:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: ..nah, he should be immune.
03-12-2021 03:54:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: 1-3, 1R resist.  4-7, 2R resist.  8-11, immune.
03-12-2021 03:55:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: 12+ absorb, so alcohol would pep him up.
03-12-2021 03:55:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: What's his current immunity?
03-12-2021 03:55:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: 12+?
03-12-2021 03:55:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Level counter.
03-12-2021 03:55:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: he's level 11, so he's immune.
03-12-2021 03:56:08 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Damn shame, I want our dragon to get healthier from doing a keg stand
03-12-2021 03:56:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I might have lost track at some point, but I'm saying he's 11.
03-12-2021 03:56:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: After this batlte I'll level him and Willis up to 12.
03-12-2021 03:56:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: which is where they'll stay.
03-12-2021 03:56:46 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Oh right, when we lsoe our inventory does each stack get divided?
03-12-2021 03:56:52 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: If that makes sense?
03-12-2021 03:57:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: yeah, it's by item not by stack.
03-12-2021 03:57:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'll vote to not party
03-12-2021 03:57:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah, so everyone will problably at least get some form of healing item
03-12-2021 03:57:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: ..everyone?
03-12-2021 03:57:54 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: The 2 people we are sharing with
03-12-2021 03:57:58 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And us
03-12-2021 03:58:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: yeah, Sessha and Willis will likely have some healing items.
03-12-2021 03:58:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: mind you, Sessha has spells for that.
03-12-2021 03:58:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah that's true.
03-12-2021 03:58:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: also, ER said no party so I don't need it anymore.
03-12-2021 03:58:55 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah fair enough.
03-12-2021 03:58:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: do feel free to read it, though.  ;-p
03-12-2021 03:59:19 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I keep meaning too and I swear something always comes up when I sit down to read it
03-12-2021 03:59:47 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I will catch up don't you worry
03-12-2021 04:01:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: mmm, which form is the cutest...
03-12-2021 04:02:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: probably either white or red.
03-12-2021 04:02:33 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: eh
03-12-2021 04:02:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ^?
03-12-2021 04:03:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Which trence dragon.
03-12-2021 04:03:17 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah right
03-12-2021 04:03:23 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: IIRC white is adorable
03-12-2021 04:03:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But it's been a while
03-12-2021 04:03:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: white is all chubby!
03-12-2021 04:04:03 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Right.
03-12-2021 04:04:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Red you haven't seen yet, but it's got big 'ol eyes.
03-12-2021 04:06:29 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Aww. Well both remind me of my familys dogs, but I'll go with white
03-12-2021 04:06:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: brown is a bit blocky, yellow is basically an eel-dragon, silver (wind) is puffy and has odd striped ridges to accomodate for that.
03-12-2021 04:07:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: blue has a sort of fish-nose bulldog thooth thing going on.
03-12-2021 04:07:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Venom green is pretty good, just not as cute as red or white.
03-12-2021 04:07:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Nature green is all thorny.
03-12-2021 04:08:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Blade Dragon is like a huge starving hairless dog with spikes all over.  Much less cute.
03-12-2021 04:08:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That does sound much less cute
03-12-2021 04:08:58 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Do they look different as Trent gets older?
03-12-2021 04:09:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Normally they would all grow a bit, but I'm gonna say the process stopped after Trence got stoned.
03-12-2021 04:12:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Other than the elemental ones, all the advanced ones will appear as adult dragons.
03-12-2021 04:12:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So what do like adult dragons look like in their dragon forms? Still that size or can they get huge?
03-12-2021 04:13:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: well, if they just have one element they're bigger, but a single element adult dragon in dragonform would normally be smaller than Blade Dragon.
03-12-2021 04:13:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: not massively so, still significantly bigger than a person is.
03-12-2021 04:13:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So what's a multielement one look like then?
03-12-2021 04:14:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Like a combo of the two that are mixed.
03-12-2021 04:14:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: and like Trence, slightly bigger than either, but not much.
03-12-2021 04:14:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Three elements come out orange coloured.
03-12-2021 04:14:46 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Neat
03-12-2021 04:15:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: There are a few advanced forms that affect size.. Little are shoulder-sitters, and Big dragons are big.
03-12-2021 04:15:55 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: This sounds vaguelly familiar now that you mention it
03-12-2021 04:16:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, I think I've talked about them with you.
03-12-2021 04:16:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: first stage are all elements save Void.
03-12-2021 04:16:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: fire, cold, water, wind, lightning, and earth.  And nature/poison.
03-12-2021 04:16:46 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Right
03-12-2021 04:16:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: advanced ones are little, big, blade, armour, magic, and flight.
03-12-2021 04:17:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: There's a couple of endgame ones.
03-12-2021 04:57:42 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette
03-12-2021 04:57:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: hiya syv
03-12-2021 04:58:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: sy acquired
03-12-2021 04:58:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: heya syv.
03-12-2021 04:59:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I found dunkey on youtube, and now I'm stuck watching a bunch of his videos, predictably
03-12-2021 04:59:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: such is life.
03-12-2021 05:02:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: heya dev.
03-12-2021 05:02:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: And hello MJ, ER.
03-12-2021 05:02:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: We have four people
03-12-2021 05:03:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Three people and a dev.
03-12-2021 05:04:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: A dev is a person
03-12-2021 05:05:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: maybe a dev is a ai
03-12-2021 05:05:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: No, he's not user-friendly enough
03-12-2021 05:05:24 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: like the more advanced version of a naturegirl
03-12-2021 05:05:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hm
03-12-2021 05:06:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Devastator, play despacito.
03-12-2021 05:06:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: From my very limited interactions with naturegirl it's unique
03-12-2021 05:06:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: What is despacito?
03-12-2021 05:06:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Nope, not an AI.
03-12-2021 05:06:22 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: and by interactions I mean reading some of her actions in stuff I follow
03-12-2021 05:06:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I'm not sure what planet NG is from, but it isn't this one.
03-12-2021 05:06:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: of course...
03-12-2021 05:06:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes, NG has a magical way of thinking
03-12-2021 05:07:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It's connected to reality, but just tenuously enough to fall into the uncanny valley
03-12-2021 05:07:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: alternatively, one could say stuff like that about me..
03-12-2021 05:07:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "There is a corpse jamming the gears.  I should rip out their stomach and dump stomach acid all over it to dissolve the body."
03-12-2021 05:08:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: she did the acid thing to someone else?
03-12-2021 05:08:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: that came up in Extinction, too.
03-12-2021 05:08:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That was an actual action?
03-12-2021 05:08:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "There is an enemy who can mind control me if I physically touch them.  I'll skin this corpse and wear the skin to protect myself."
03-12-2021 05:08:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: mmm.
03-12-2021 05:08:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes, both of these were in MOOK.
03-12-2021 05:08:47 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: oh yeah
03-12-2021 05:08:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: actually, that part seems like it could actually work.
03-12-2021 05:08:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: thats a novel way of fighting derp
03-12-2021 05:08:58 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Okay that second one at least kinda makes sense
03-12-2021 05:09:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: a normal suit would have worked just as well as skinning a corpse :p
03-12-2021 05:09:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Right that's kinda the issue
03-12-2021 05:09:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...A normal suit which she already had.
03-12-2021 05:09:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Yes.
03-12-2021 05:09:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: so you make a suit out of the corpse.
03-12-2021 05:09:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: hahahaha
03-12-2021 05:09:42 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also you can get mind controlled by him by any means of perception, not just touch
03-12-2021 05:09:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Do you not follow?  ;-p
03-12-2021 05:09:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I think she only made gloves, as well.
03-12-2021 05:10:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I mean yeah a suit takes a lot of effort to make
03-12-2021 05:10:17 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That's like hours to days of sewing.
03-12-2021 05:10:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: In fact I'm pretty sure gloves _still_ don't work, because if you hit something with your hand, you're still perceiving it.
03-12-2021 05:11:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah, but not as bad as like... running your hand over him and feeling his texture?
03-12-2021 05:11:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: that's a fair point.
03-12-2021 05:11:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I don't think there's much of any "not as bad" with Derp
03-12-2021 05:11:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: MOOK is PW's WWII ER right?
03-12-2021 05:11:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: the impact of running into something which you feel with your kinestetic sense is a different thing from its texture, I guess
03-12-2021 05:11:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: different sense
03-12-2021 05:12:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Nope, that was 888th.  Which finished awhile ago.
03-12-2021 05:12:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Nah, it's ER II, basically.
03-12-2021 05:12:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah right
03-12-2021 05:12:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: too er-like for me, sorry.
03-12-2021 05:12:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: fuck derk
03-12-2021 05:12:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: fuck derp
03-12-2021 05:12:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Whats Derp?
03-12-2021 05:12:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: next game hopefully.
03-12-2021 05:12:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: MOOK is about being the background security mooks in a facility like Phobos Base.
03-12-2021 05:12:33 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Neat
03-12-2021 05:13:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I do wonder sometimes if NG just had a very sheltered upbrinigng
03-12-2021 05:13:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: only real explaination
03-12-2021 05:13:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Prolly.
03-12-2021 05:14:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Okay so... we had a mission to contain a man that's essentially an SCP, with the power to control anyone who perceives him in any way.  The control wears off after awhile, but is unbreakable while active.
03-12-2021 05:14:10 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Or she's just really young
03-12-2021 05:14:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: only a couple years younger than me
03-12-2021 05:14:57 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: huh
03-12-2021 05:15:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Slaves obey any order given by Derp, and do *basically* whatever he wanted when they perceived him, in a loose sense.
03-12-2021 05:15:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So like college aged
03-12-2021 05:16:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Intresting
03-12-2021 05:16:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The effect is maintained through reproductions of video and recordings of him, but not still images.  And videos and such would maintain the mind control "orders" that were present at the time they were taken.
03-12-2021 05:16:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: what happens if you get plastered?
03-12-2021 05:16:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also derp is a sociopath, either coincidentially or due to never being able to meet anybody who isn''t his slave
03-12-2021 05:16:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: so they put him in a box because he's magic and then he got out, oops
03-12-2021 05:17:08 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Sounds about right
03-12-2021 05:17:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: So a video of him while he wanted a hamburger (which he didn't give any indication of wanting) makes people want to give him a hamburger, and always will, even later once he's fed.  The psychic "signal" is static.
03-12-2021 05:17:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: But anyway, while controlled by him, people would call him "Mr Friend?
03-12-2021 05:17:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Intresting
03-12-2021 05:17:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: *"Mr. Friend"
03-12-2021 05:17:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: This was the only name we were given.
03-12-2021 05:18:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And derp evolved from that?
03-12-2021 05:19:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Since we could be compromised easily at any time, and the only obvious sign would be that we no longer were his enemy, I decide to have my character A) rename him with an insulting name ("Derp"), and to B) *ALWAYS CONTINUALLY* talk about hurting and insulting Derp.
03-12-2021 05:19:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: So if at any moment my char reverted to calling him Mr Friend, or stopped wanting to excavate Derp urethera
03-12-2021 05:19:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: with a drill
03-12-2021 05:19:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Clever
03-12-2021 05:19:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: People would know my char (who also happened to have max gun skill...) was MC'd
03-12-2021 05:20:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: This was to a limited extent adopted by other people, at least the "Calling him Derp" part.
03-12-2021 05:20:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: mmm.
03-12-2021 05:20:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Which may be in part due to my character saying "FUCK DERP FUCK DERP FUCK DERP" on damn near every single post
03-12-2021 05:21:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Cool
03-12-2021 05:21:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Seems a bit complicated.  ;-p
03-12-2021 05:21:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: couldn't you just use a drone with no sound, IR vision, and a tranq gun of some kind?
03-12-2021 05:21:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So NG wants to make a suit out of a person to prevent her from being able to percive him?
03-12-2021 05:21:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: This corporation has fully autonomous robots which were fully immune to Derp's control.
03-12-2021 05:21:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ...Couldn't she just use a blindfold and some cotton?
03-12-2021 05:21:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: They used mooks instead for unexplained reasons.
03-12-2021 05:22:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: And yes, MJ.
03-12-2021 05:22:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: You guys are way way cheaper then the maitenence costs for the robots~
03-12-2021 05:22:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: That is what the rest of us did.  Actually, we did better, but.
03-12-2021 05:22:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I'm not sure.
03-12-2021 05:22:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: nature wanted a set of human skin gloves, in case she accidentially touched derp with her hands
03-12-2021 05:22:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: good old NG.
03-12-2021 05:23:01 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Was she wearing a space suit?
03-12-2021 05:23:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Without otherwise perceiving him
03-12-2021 05:23:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Already?
03-12-2021 05:23:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I don't think she had a *space* suit, but she had a standard issue jumpsuit.  And plenty of opportunity to get normal gloves.
03-12-2021 05:23:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh
03-12-2021 05:23:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...I think she also *did* get a spacesuit later, and kept wearing the humanskin gloves.
03-12-2021 05:23:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: That may have just been because she forgot about them though
03-12-2021 05:24:09 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So kinda like Milo except completly insanse~
03-12-2021 05:25:12 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So I guess my other question is how long did it take her to make gloves?
03-12-2021 05:25:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Eh, I think like one or two turns
03-12-2021 05:26:04 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Eh fair enough, need to move the game along.
03-12-2021 05:26:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: She just skinned a man's hand then stabled the cuts shut or something.
03-12-2021 05:27:01 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I wonder what trying to do an escape room with NG would be like~
03-12-2021 05:27:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: dunno!
03-12-2021 05:27:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I wouldn't want to be in the same room as her when she's in problem solving mode
03-12-2021 05:27:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: you just need a bigger knife.
03-12-2021 05:29:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Nah, she's harmless
03-12-2021 05:29:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: My char has done WAY more teamkilling in that game
03-12-2021 05:29:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: The IRC doing an escape room would be entertaining, I would get distracted and just start trying to guess the password, ER would be trying to stab a problem and Dev and syv would be arguing about a basic clue.
03-12-2021 05:30:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: now this is what we call a destructive entry method, pay close attention
03-12-2021 05:30:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Further, me and Dev would already either know or have figured out the solution, we'd be arguing over the rule simply to argue.
03-12-2021 05:31:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Actually, I've never done an escape room, and from what I've seen of them, don't think I'd do well.
03-12-2021 05:31:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yup and meanwhile I somehow guess a combination and just skip like half the room.
03-12-2021 05:31:44 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Neither have I actually.
03-12-2021 05:31:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I would then get bored and impatient for you two to just finish it
03-12-2021 05:32:00 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: so that I can go home and watch youtube
03-12-2021 05:32:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I'd miss a clue and would just read a book.
03-12-2021 05:32:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: blindness.
03-12-2021 05:37:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I typically am really bad a a lot of escape room adventure game kinda things
03-12-2021 05:39:14 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Although I've never struggled with any thinking problem more so then a fucking legend of zelda puzzle
03-12-2021 05:39:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...Which one?
03-12-2021 05:40:11 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I think the consensus here is that we would fail the room
03-12-2021 05:40:35 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: There was a puzzle in Phantom hourglass which was on the DS that has you "press the seal into the a chart" Which had you physcially close your DS while you had the map on one screen and the seal on the other
03-12-2021 05:40:44 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: This gimmick is never used or mentioned ever again
03-12-2021 05:41:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Ouch, that sort of thing sucks.
03-12-2021 05:41:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ahh, I've heard of that one.
03-12-2021 05:41:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: It's no Wizardry IV, but.. ouch.
03-12-2021 05:41:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: the first time I played it, I thought it was just bugged and reset the game
03-12-2021 05:41:59 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And played back up that point
03-12-2021 05:42:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hey, ER, have you seen any updates on where Call of Earth is at?
03-12-2021 05:42:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: no
03-12-2021 05:42:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: ouch.
03-12-2021 05:42:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: how far into the game is it, MJ?
03-12-2021 05:42:44 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Like halfway
03-12-2021 05:42:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It was a trek
03-12-2021 05:43:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: man, wonder how you do that on emulator.
03-12-2021 05:44:01 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Literally the only way I got it was I got so mad while looking at the screen I just closed my DS tossed it onto a pillow and was like I'm never playing this game again, when I came back it was solved because I accidently did the action.
03-12-2021 05:44:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Hah.
03-12-2021 05:45:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: "Lets make this potentially annoying puzzle solvable by getting really angry!"
03-12-2021 05:45:42 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: and like the game has established that doing things on the map affect things in the game, but you always drew them with the stylus, so I spent forever trying to painstakingly draw the fuckign seal
03-12-2021 05:46:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: oh man.
03-12-2021 05:47:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: that does not sound fun.
03-12-2021 05:47:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I once saw a video talking about various zelda games and the dude genuinely stopped the whole video to spend a solid 3 mintues complaining about that one puzzle.
03-12-2021 05:47:42 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And I was like finnally I feel vinidcated
03-12-2021 05:47:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: hah.
03-12-2021 05:47:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I think everyone who knows about that puzzle hates it
03-12-2021 05:48:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I've heard of it a few times, and in all cases it was someone or other complaining vehemently about it
03-12-2021 05:49:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It just the single most irritating puzzle or logic thing ever. It's like an evil version of the mysterious benedict society puzzle
03-12-2021 05:50:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ....which I just googled and is now somehow a TV show?
03-12-2021 05:50:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Man, I have to tell you about Wizardry IV, MJ.  ;-p
03-12-2021 05:50:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: it's the game where they had to package it with an envelope telling players how to get out of the first room.
03-12-2021 05:51:23 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ....
03-12-2021 05:51:40 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I have no words
03-12-2021 05:52:11 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Is that the one you showed me where the dude played it with charecters from heavy metal?
03-12-2021 05:52:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Yes.
03-12-2021 05:52:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: https://lparchive.org/Wizardry-IV/Update%2009/2-B4F.png
03-12-2021 05:52:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: No, actually.
03-12-2021 05:52:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: that was Wizardry I.
03-12-2021 05:52:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: IV is much, much worse.
03-12-2021 05:52:57 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ....how?
03-12-2021 05:53:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: How is it possibly worse then that game?
03-12-2021 05:53:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: look at that floor map.
03-12-2021 05:53:28 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Okay yeah.
03-12-2021 05:53:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: if you've got an hour, try to figure out how you map that out and find the way to the upstairs.  ;-p
03-12-2021 05:54:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I like hard games, but I draw the line at games that have me draw things on paper next to the game~
03-12-2021 05:55:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: With that game, they playtested it with one of the best players of the genre in the world, who was a big fan of the previous game.
03-12-2021 05:55:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: It took that person two solid months to beat it.
03-12-2021 05:55:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ...Apperently it has a 3D maze? In a game represented entierlly in 2D?
03-12-2021 05:55:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: What mindbending fuckery is this
03-12-2021 05:55:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Yes.
03-12-2021 05:56:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: The kind that has never been seen before or since.
03-12-2021 05:56:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I'm pretty much wholly convinced that Wizardry IV is the hardest game ever created.
03-12-2021 05:56:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: it's essentially invisible inter-floor teleports, MJ.  ;-p
03-12-2021 05:57:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Jesus.
03-12-2021 05:57:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: some people should not make game maps~
03-12-2021 05:57:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The spin traps in that level alert you when you're spun, right?
03-12-2021 05:57:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Some of them.
03-12-2021 05:57:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And huh your right, they did have to include a letter explaining how to leave the first room
03-12-2021 05:58:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: but the one-way walls make that super hard.
03-12-2021 05:58:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: How?
03-12-2021 05:59:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'd think the way you map it is just... trace all your steps exactly, and restart if you hit a spin trap.
03-12-2021 05:59:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Gruelling, but actually kinda straightforward...?
03-12-2021 05:59:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The light grey walls with no arrows are two-way, right?
03-12-2021 06:00:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: the light grey walls with no arrows are invisible walls, unless they're marking a spinner.
03-12-2021 06:00:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: ie, solid but impassable.
03-12-2021 06:00:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: You mean invisible but impassable?
03-12-2021 06:01:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: How does one reach the right side of the level, then?
03-12-2021 06:01:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The exit is in the upper right, yes?
03-12-2021 06:01:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Exit is at 19,15
03-12-2021 06:01:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: entrance is at 0,2
03-12-2021 06:01:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yep.
03-12-2021 06:02:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: the trick is at 10,0
03-12-2021 06:02:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: head south, then east, then north.
03-12-2021 06:02:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: the next pentagram at 12,0 marks the start of the exit corridor.
03-12-2021 06:02:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: are there even any enemies or otherwise interesting content or just one big troll
03-12-2021 06:03:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, there are enemy encounters.
03-12-2021 06:03:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It's an old dungeon crawl game, ER.
03-12-2021 06:03:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Enemies aren't interesting content.
03-12-2021 06:03:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: that's also partly true, yeah, you can deplete the supply of enemies if you clear them all.
03-12-2021 06:03:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: but if you save, they come back.
03-12-2021 06:03:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Also from what I'm reading every enemy you fight weakens you
03-12-2021 06:03:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: OHHHHH
03-12-2021 06:03:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Since there's no XP or leveling up
03-12-2021 06:03:57 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Until you reach the end of the level.
03-12-2021 06:04:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: So you can go from the top line of the map to the bottom line seemlessly
03-12-2021 06:04:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ?
03-12-2021 06:04:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Yes.
03-12-2021 06:04:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: unless there's a wall marked, it wraps.
03-12-2021 06:05:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Technically you get a refill every time you hit a pentagram, MJ.  And a level each time you hit a pentagram on a new dungeon level.
03-12-2021 06:05:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Then... yeah.  Just plot the path out, restarting if you hit any spins.
03-12-2021 06:05:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: many spins are mandatory, syv.
03-12-2021 06:06:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: start out, you have to head E, E, then N, and N, landing you on a spin.  To advance, you need to land facing E, step on a second spinner, and then go E off that one.
03-12-2021 06:06:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...[4,2] is mandatory, I guess?
03-12-2021 06:06:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hrm.
03-12-2021 06:06:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: 2,4
03-12-2021 06:06:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: X then Y.
03-12-2021 06:07:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: bleb
03-12-2021 06:07:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I guess I'd need multiple sheets.  That one is at least nice in that you have feedback in which way you *leave* the spinner.
03-12-2021 06:08:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah, all four directions are visibly different.
03-12-2021 06:08:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...And it'd be relatively easy to determine that both west and north are just a loop back.
03-12-2021 06:08:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: is it?
03-12-2021 06:09:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Very exhausting level.  But increasingly isn't looking that *hard*?
03-12-2021 06:09:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: facing west off the first spinner, you see a right-turn passageway.
03-12-2021 06:09:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: West has three tiles visible, with the third tile branching left and right.
03-12-2021 06:09:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: North has two tiles visible, with the second tile branching left
03-12-2021 06:09:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: South has two tiles visible, with no visible branching.
03-12-2021 06:10:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: N you see a passageway with a left and right turn at the end.
03-12-2021 06:10:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: West and north both loop back to the start.
03-12-2021 06:10:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Sout you see a two turn passage, with a right turn at the end.
03-12-2021 06:10:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ahhh, there's another spin there.
03-12-2021 06:10:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Fuck you, Dev, now I want to try to navigate this fucking thing.
03-12-2021 06:10:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: No, no you don't.
03-12-2021 06:10:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: But the random encounters from actually playing would be too annoying.
03-12-2021 06:11:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: and Trebor's Ghost.
03-12-2021 06:11:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: wiz 4 LP lets go
03-12-2021 06:11:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I wouldn't play Wiz IV for an audience unless I'm paid six figures.
03-12-2021 06:11:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Six figures per...?
03-12-2021 06:12:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Year?
03-12-2021 06:12:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that's why we're getting sy to do it instead
03-12-2021 06:12:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Six figures for the one playthrough.
03-12-2021 06:12:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hm.
03-12-2021 06:12:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I do not want to play Wiz IV.
03-12-2021 06:12:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Only awarded at the end?
03-12-2021 06:12:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, sure.
03-12-2021 06:12:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I think I could live with playing it for $100k.
03-12-2021 06:12:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: ;-p
03-12-2021 06:12:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: That makes it more reasonable, yeah.
03-12-2021 06:13:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: That prolly works out to an okay hourly wage.  An excellent one if you can use a walkthrough.
03-12-2021 06:13:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: it would also include a sincere attempt to map levels.
03-12-2021 06:13:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'd play for two figures, if I got a consistent hourly wage ;P
03-12-2021 06:14:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: gimmie five bucks and I'll play it till I'm not having fun
03-12-2021 06:14:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "I've been stuck on this floor for forty hours.  Well, that's a full work week of pay, so fine.  Whatever.
03-12-2021 06:14:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "
03-12-2021 06:14:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: hah
03-12-2021 06:15:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I wouldn't play the actual game without running cheat engine.
03-12-2021 06:15:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: but yeah, beating it would be months of pain.
03-12-2021 06:15:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Which might softlock me.
03-12-2021 06:15:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: It's fairly clunky.
03-12-2021 06:15:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I'm not sure CE would work.
03-12-2021 06:15:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Or a good hourly wage *
03-12-2021 06:15:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I imagine it wouldn't, because I imagine it's in an emulator?
03-12-2021 06:15:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
03-12-2021 06:15:46 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: savestates!
03-12-2021 06:15:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Haven't ever actually tried to CE an emulated game.
03-12-2021 06:16:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Savestates wouldn't be good enough, ER.
03-12-2021 06:16:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I specifically want to crank up damage, and lock HP, so I can mindlessly click past enemy encounters.
03-12-2021 06:16:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Mapping a bullshit dungeon level, sure, I wouldn't mind that too much;
03-12-2021 06:16:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Having to do it while spending a few minutes on enemies every few steps?  Yeah that'd be fucking annoying.
03-12-2021 06:17:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: And *then* having them end my game and redo progress would be extremely frustrating.
03-12-2021 06:17:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: lots of enemy insta-deaths, syv.  ;-p
03-12-2021 06:17:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So are the dungeons random? Like do they change if you die?
03-12-2021 06:17:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I am sure CE could get around that, if it could properly access the game.
03-12-2021 06:18:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: No, they're fixed.
03-12-2021 06:18:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I suspect random dungeons would make it literally impossible.
03-12-2021 06:18:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: although..
03-12-2021 06:18:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: writing a generator to be that evil is a challenge.
03-12-2021 06:19:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah well then with this map Dev would already have an unfair advantage~
03-12-2021 06:19:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Writing a generator to create *anything* equivalent to a hand crafted level is a challenge.
03-12-2021 06:19:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: eh.
03-12-2021 06:19:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: you can do pretty good.
03-12-2021 06:20:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: HoMM II had a random map gen that was much better than you'd expect.
03-12-2021 06:20:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: also, maze generation is a very old thing in computing.
03-12-2021 06:20:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I said a challenge, dev.
03-12-2021 06:21:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: fair point.
03-12-2021 06:22:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: oh, also the thieves that can steal plot items and escape.
03-12-2021 06:23:29 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: who hurt these game devs that they felt the need to make everyone suffer?
03-12-2021 06:24:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I hope CoH has a mutation table
03-12-2021 06:25:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Looking through Infinite Kowloon's mutation tables, and I like them.  Some are bullshit... but a lot of fun neat stuff.
03-12-2021 06:25:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: It was a different era, MJ.  But even then it was too much pain.
03-12-2021 06:25:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: oh, neat.
03-12-2021 06:25:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: probably is a mutation table, actually.
03-12-2021 06:25:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: it'd make a lot of sense in setting.
03-12-2021 06:25:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: WIZARDS was better, I dislike the city theming, but CoH shouldn't have that.
03-12-2021 06:25:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yup!
03-12-2021 06:25:46 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Oh yeah did you guys see that dorm building that's pretty much just a nicer version of Kowloon?
03-12-2021 06:25:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hopefully it's more organic than it was in WIZARDS, too.
03-12-2021 06:26:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'm not sure if it was really nicer, mj
03-12-2021 06:26:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I didn't
03-12-2021 06:26:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I liked Wizards!
03-12-2021 06:27:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Some of these are bullshit, though.  Beyond the obligatory [YOU DIED] entry, there's stuff like "Your heart is now an internal combustion engine.  If you don't drink a gallon of gasoline every day, you die."
03-12-2021 06:27:20 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: https://compote.slate.com/images/0268b1dc-67f5-4a87-a4dc-148883951144.png?width=1600&rect=1434x956&offset=2x0
03-12-2021 06:27:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: basically some rich dude did a donation to a collage, with the requirement that they have to build the building he designed, which would take more money to build than he donated
03-12-2021 06:27:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Which has the same chances as growing a rebreather on your back, which gives permanent immunity to breath impairment/airborne toxins.
03-12-2021 06:27:46 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and it's just a bunch of dorms copy and pasted together so that there's no light or air
03-12-2021 06:27:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I liked Wizards too.
03-12-2021 06:27:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: hah.
03-12-2021 06:28:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Honestlly it might be kinda fun to live in
03-12-2021 06:29:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Why would he require them to build a building that is just a repeated copy paste of a smaller building???
03-12-2021 06:29:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Though smokeing weed in those dorms would pose challenges.
03-12-2021 06:29:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Rich Asshole?
03-12-2021 06:29:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it is actually a social experiment, but a dumb one
03-12-2021 06:31:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Oh man, dorm parties would be something in that place, poorly maintained parts of that building. Because it would be gigantic and there is no way the university is actually putting rescouces into maintaining it.
03-12-2021 06:34:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: music might be rough.
03-12-2021 06:34:42 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, and if the cops get called you'd have like 1,000 students scattering to the 4 winds
03-12-2021 06:34:57 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Since there's like 4,000 people in that dorm
03-12-2021 06:34:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: just have 1000 people each claiming to be Sparticus.
03-12-2021 06:35:25 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh
03-12-2021 06:36:01 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Man, this dorm seems like it would be incrediblly fun if you never studied or did anything even vaguelly studious
03-12-2021 06:36:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So pretty much it's made Kowloon the walled the frat house
03-12-2021 06:36:28 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ^the walled frat house
03-12-2021 06:37:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I think it says something about you if you think a building that is several smaller buildings copy pasted next to each other would be "incredibly fun"
03-12-2021 06:37:33 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I mean I do live in a fraternity house
03-12-2021 06:37:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yo dawg I heard you like dorms, so I put a dorm in your dorm so you can dorm while you dorm
03-12-2021 06:38:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Though I was miserable in the hill, but that was also a very different experince
03-12-2021 06:38:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: fractal dorm
03-12-2021 06:38:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: inside each dorm, a smaller dorm!
03-12-2021 06:44:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But I'm an introverted extrovert. I like a lot of social stuff
03-12-2021 06:45:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I think you're just a progressive extrovert living in Alabama.
03-12-2021 06:45:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Heh, it's also possible
03-12-2021 06:46:09 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I'll be going somewhere else in like 6 months though so that's kinda crazy
03-12-2021 06:49:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: how's your project coming?
03-12-2021 06:54:21 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: slow, the manufacturer for my kit seems to have had some supply chain issues, becuase it was only supposed to be on backorder for less then 2 weeks and it's stil on backorder
03-12-2021 06:54:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: 2 and a half weeks later
03-12-2021 06:56:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: mmm.
03-12-2021 06:56:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: was reading up on something, actually.
03-12-2021 06:56:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: be glad you aren't working on sturgeon genetics.
03-12-2021 06:56:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: oh?
03-12-2021 06:56:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: guess how many chromosomes they have?
03-12-2021 06:56:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Why?
03-12-2021 06:56:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: 80?
03-12-2021 06:56:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: 240
03-12-2021 06:57:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Jesus
03-12-2021 06:57:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: When you have more chromosones then corn you have a problem
03-12-2021 06:57:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ^wheat
03-12-2021 06:57:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: why does wheat have so many chromosomes?
03-12-2021 06:58:23 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Because wheat is a genetic monster of thousand upon thousands of years of selective breeding
03-12-2021 06:58:56 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: At least that's what I've always heard
03-12-2021 06:59:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: hah.
03-12-2021 06:59:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: still, 240.
03-12-2021 06:59:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: and no selective breeding.
03-12-2021 06:59:12 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That's nuts
03-12-2021 07:00:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: apparently it had 60, and then some duplication happened.
03-12-2021 07:00:29 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah
03-12-2021 07:01:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: ...
03-12-2021 07:01:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: six copies of seven (for wheat) doean't seem that bad.
03-12-2021 07:01:10 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: what?
03-12-2021 07:01:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: not like 4 copies of 60.
03-12-2021 07:02:01 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Oh right, it's not he chomsoners, it's the genes in wheat.
03-12-2021 07:02:28 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: They've got a ton of different genes and their genome is huge
03-12-2021 07:03:19 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But yeah that is kinda crazy
03-12-2021 07:03:25 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: 4 copies of 60
03-12-2021 07:03:35 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That sounsd miserable
03-12-2021 07:03:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: yeah.
03-12-2021 07:03:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: How many do flies have?
03-12-2021 07:03:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Also like a lot of work for their cells
03-12-2021 07:03:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: eh.
03-12-2021 07:04:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: 8
03-12-2021 07:04:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Sturgeon are pretty slow glowers.
03-12-2021 07:04:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: growers.
03-12-2021 07:04:24 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Or four pairs
03-12-2021 07:04:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: You know what I mean
03-12-2021 07:05:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Living reproducing animals are weird
03-12-2021 07:07:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: They are indeed
03-12-2021 07:07:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: mmm.
03-12-2021 07:07:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: a lot of work for cells, yeah.
03-12-2021 07:07:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: but man.
03-12-2021 07:08:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: speaking of reproduction, fertilization must be a hell of a thing.
03-12-2021 07:08:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh, yeah
03-12-2021 07:08:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: 'well, we have to make 240 correct pairings'
03-12-2021 07:08:42 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I wonder if they have more mutations just cause they've got so many goddamn chromosomes
03-12-2021 07:08:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: Don't think so, acutally.
03-12-2021 07:09:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: sturgeon seem to be pretty slow at that sort of thing.
03-12-2021 07:09:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: take two hundred thousand years to spread to the next river over.
03-12-2021 07:10:20 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Welp, that might be related, gotta go slow so you don't end up just a mass of cancer
03-12-2021 07:12:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: yeah.  They're also a bit like sharks.
03-12-2021 07:13:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: don't change much over time.
03-12-2021 07:13:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah, I'd expect absurd redundancy to *protect* from mutations
03-12-2021 07:26:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Anyway, night
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03-12-2021 07:26:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: <3
03-12-2021 07:27:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Aw
03-12-2021 07:27:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Bye, Jaggers.
03-12-2021 07:27:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: oh, syv, how's the PM convo working for Quest?
03-12-2021 07:27:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hm?
03-12-2021 07:28:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: PM convo?
03-12-2021 07:28:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: is it all messed up in your conversation view?
03-12-2021 07:28:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ahhh, nah.  It's great.
03-12-2021 07:29:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: One long chain of messages, all on one page.  It could get to be an issue in the future, if the game goes on super long... but I'm yet to have a PM chain that was actually problematic, and I've got longer ones going right now.
03-12-2021 07:30:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Helpfully, clicking on the chain title autoscrolls to the bottom, as does checking it for the first time with new messages.
03-12-2021 07:30:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: aight.  I don't know if I've always been responding to the best message.
03-12-2021 07:31:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: As long as you reply to any message in the chain, it's included, I believe.
03-12-2021 07:31:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: So it works as long as you don't use "new message".
03-12-2021 07:31:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: ok!
03-12-2021 07:32:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Thanks for thinking about it.  ^-^
03-12-2021 07:33:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It's a very good view for PM games, IMO.  Not only does it keep the inbox from having pages of [game name], it means I can search the entire game just with ctrl+f.
03-12-2021 07:34:11 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yea
03-12-2021 07:34:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: infinite scroll bby
03-12-2021 07:34:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: huh.
03-12-2021 07:34:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I might have to switch over.
03-12-2021 07:35:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Simple enough to try.  Can just revert if you don't like it.
03-12-2021 07:35:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@jssp-6e3gx6sp6tv1dqoda13j3xe6l.ipv3.telus.net: I don't like it in general.  I meant for the game.
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