15-11-2021 04:07:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: hmm, chuck's reviewing Full Metal Panic now.
15-11-2021 04:10:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: wonder if it's any good.
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15-11-2021 05:30:21 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: lo
15-11-2021 05:30:40 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: uwu
15-11-2021 05:30:49 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hiya er
15-11-2021 05:31:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hey
15-11-2021 05:32:00 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: ywyhow're you?
15-11-2021 05:32:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: tired, I guess
15-11-2021 05:32:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I get that
15-11-2021 05:41:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hugs?
15-11-2021 05:41:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: heya MJ.
15-11-2021 05:41:43 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: sure ER
15-11-2021 05:41:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: sure hugs.
15-11-2021 05:42:03 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hiya dev
15-11-2021 05:43:01 < * ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com hugs
15-11-2021 05:43:20 < * Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net hugs
15-11-2021 05:45:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: oh, was playing M:TW for a while.
15-11-2021 05:45:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: the AI knows how to corner-camp.
15-11-2021 05:45:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: what's that
15-11-2021 05:45:53 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yeah I've got no idea what your tlaking about devb
15-11-2021 05:47:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: basically when the whole army is sitting in the corner so it's a pain to attack it.
15-11-2021 05:47:26 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: No I mean what is M:TW
15-11-2021 05:47:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: oh, the first Medieval Total War.
15-11-2021 05:47:37 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah
15-11-2021 05:47:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: also, the last one with provinces.
15-11-2021 05:47:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: it seems the reason they abandoned them was engine issues.
15-11-2021 05:48:29 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: oh?
15-11-2021 05:48:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: yeah.
15-11-2021 05:49:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: wanted to have all 3d all the time.
15-11-2021 05:49:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: and 3d doesn't play well with provinces.
15-11-2021 05:49:28 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Ah
15-11-2021 05:50:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: to be fair, even when it was new the game was a fair bit unstable.
15-11-2021 05:54:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: mmm.
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15-11-2021 06:15:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: aww
15-11-2021 06:16:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: see ya, I guess.
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15-11-2021 08:09:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: well damn, the four star assassin made five stars.
15-11-2021 08:09:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: 'hi, I have 70% odds to kill two-star heirs'
15-11-2021 08:09:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: 'and I basically have like a 10% chance to get caught by border forts.'
15-11-2021 08:14:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: only problem is if he wants six stars, he has to kill 32 level-0 ambassadors.  ;-p
15-11-2021 08:14:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: or eight princesses.
15-11-2021 08:33:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: I've had five star assassins before, but they're usually from Syria, which gives assassins that start at two stars.
15-11-2021 08:33:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: and they're bonus stars, not free xp, so five stars = three stars.
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15-11-2021 09:20:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: heyo
15-11-2021 09:20:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: heyo
15-11-2021 09:20:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: hmm.
15-11-2021 09:20:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: I recall playing one of the Total War games maaaaany years ago, as one of the middle eastern nations.  I had really liked the first assassin's creed game, so I spammed assassins CONSTANTLY.  People hated me, and I constantly had invading armies, but they'd have eight assasins circling them spamming attempts on the leader.
15-11-2021 09:21:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: hah.  Nah, in M:TW they aren't that good..
15-11-2021 09:21:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: It also gave my faction ruler max dread, so he was really powerful in combat simply bcause everyone was terrified of him.
15-11-2021 09:21:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: I don't think they were that good in this game, either.  They usually failed.
15-11-2021 09:21:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: also building character stats is much harder in M:TW, too.  ;-p
15-11-2021 09:21:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: you can't really do it.
15-11-2021 09:22:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: But they succeeded often enough, and I spent so much money spamming them, that basically nobody reached my main areas with a powerful leader still alive.
15-11-2021 09:22:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: heh, nifty.
15-11-2021 09:22:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: Also blew up lots of buildings in cities, which I'd conquer, and then have to rebuild.  Slowly.
15-11-2021 09:22:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: It wasn't a great strategy.  But I was like eleven, so meh.
15-11-2021 09:23:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: can be fun.
15-11-2021 09:23:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: ..also something you can't do in M:TW.  ;-p
15-11-2021 09:24:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: Clearly an inferior game :v
15-11-2021 09:24:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: It's really got a lot going for it.
15-11-2021 09:24:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: clearly the only good strategy is playing as skaven in total warhammer and doomsphering every city
15-11-2021 09:25:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: I'll leave that for Shoggy.
15-11-2021 09:25:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: The game was "Medieval II: Total War (Gold Edition)"
15-11-2021 09:26:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: I dunno, though, it's.. the province system is just better than on-map movement ranges.  The tech tree makes sense and is a lot harder to abuse, and the units actually work in combat.
15-11-2021 09:26:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: hah, M2TW.
15-11-2021 09:26:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: Most of the other games have units that don't really work.
15-11-2021 09:27:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: in MTW you have to give a shit about what you're fighting, unless it's very low-level trash units.
15-11-2021 09:27:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: (I also basically never played the RTS mode where you command units, because I was bad at it)
15-11-2021 09:27:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: hah.
15-11-2021 09:27:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: half the game, that.  ;-p
15-11-2021 09:28:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: I know
15-11-2021 09:28:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: Miiight play into why I heavily abused a feature that is totally divorced from RTS.
15-11-2021 09:30:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: makes sense.
15-11-2021 09:30:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: but yeah, I got whacked in a fight I was going to show off to MJ, because the AI really abused a good unit it had.
15-11-2021 09:31:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: and by 'abused' I mean 'used mostly right.'
15-11-2021 09:31:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: they had some bonus stats on the spanish special fast/light cavalry.
15-11-2021 09:31:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: which makes for a crazy unit.
15-11-2021 09:32:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: anyway, extinction clear enough?
15-11-2021 09:32:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: Yeah, I posted before joining.
15-11-2021 09:33:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: I looked up M2TW assassins, and got a steam guide.  Second paragraph:
15-11-2021 09:33:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: "Caution: Spamming excessive amounts of high quality agents can make the game ultra easy and ruin your overall enjoyment of the game. e.g. If a player prepares well enough and trains a large number of assassins to Master Assassin level before the Mongol and Timurid invasions it is possible to wipe out both factions by character assassination alone without fighting a single battle against them."
15-11-2021 09:33:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: Hah.
15-11-2021 09:33:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.nnr.tx: So I guess it hadn't actually been a bad idea.
15-11-2021 09:33:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: guess not!
15-11-2021 09:34:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: You can't really do that with assassins in MTW because it costs too much to get good ones.  They cost about as much as a couple units of heavy knights, with all the agent spam you need to level them up
15-11-2021 09:34:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: also if you fail a target it gets much harder to kill.
15-11-2021 09:35:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@ztzd-1b3fq6zd86gtzg5pb0b5u460f.ipv3.telus.net: There is a cheap way to burn through people with a high-level Inquisitor, preferably from Castille which gives bonuses to them, but that takes big buildings and only works on catholics, and running into one guy with like 10 piety will stop you cold.
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