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10-10-2021 03:00:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: writing out rules for a land war.
10-10-2021 03:00:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: not done yet.
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10-10-2021 04:03:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: That SC2 challenge sounds insane.
10-10-2021 04:04:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'm typing RTD godgame rules for some reason
10-10-2021 04:05:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I know that feel, but replace "god" with "gun".
10-10-2021 04:05:23 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yup
10-10-2021 04:08:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: basically, minus complicted resource or worship or relative power systems, just a series of 1d6 rtd tables for different levels of ambitious action
10-10-2021 04:08:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and sphere-based affinity changing level by 1
10-10-2021 04:11:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: huh.
10-10-2021 04:11:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: and heya syv.
10-10-2021 04:11:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: did some more stuff for land war.
10-10-2021 04:11:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: feel free to comment.  Note that nothing is done yet, not by half.
10-10-2021 04:12:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: did I remember right you being in Sand and Souls, Devastator?
10-10-2021 04:12:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I think that style is good
10-10-2021 04:12:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I don't recall the name, although I did want to join one of your god-type games.
10-10-2021 04:13:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that was where the world was initially an infinite plane of sand. and then I went a bit eldritch and sacrificed my heart to the sand, making it alive...
10-10-2021 04:14:00 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: wasn't my game
10-10-2021 04:14:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I'm not sure.  Maybe.  I remember you doing that, but don't think I was playing that one.
10-10-2021 04:14:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: got a link?
10-10-2021 04:15:23 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173275.0
10-10-2021 04:15:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ah, it was whisperling
10-10-2021 04:15:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: and heya dev.
10-10-2021 04:15:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Yeah.  Whisperling does good games.
10-10-2021 04:15:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: but no, wasn't in that one.
10-10-2021 04:16:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hum. feel like I talked to you about it though.
10-10-2021 04:17:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Yeah.  I did read it, and it was good.
10-10-2021 04:18:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: not quite my style, though, I do more planning.
10-10-2021 04:19:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: oh, and yeah, syv, that 3 simultaneous campaigns challenge is utterly mad.
10-10-2021 04:27:42 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: not sure how well planning will work out in the system I'm working on here. Might have to get your opinion on it.
10-10-2021 04:28:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Going for actions at "simple" level should be reasonably safe and could build up to something over time.
10-10-2021 04:28:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Hmm, maybe then.
10-10-2021 04:29:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but I intend for there to be unforeseen consequnces. since that lets me do my own level of godgaming ;p
10-10-2021 04:29:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I mean, I'm willing to give it a shot.
10-10-2021 04:29:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I think the big issue is usually unexpected upside.
10-10-2021 04:29:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: like I roll well, and get a special benefit I don't want and consider a bad thing.  ;-p
10-10-2021 04:29:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: in that cooking godgame I did on discord I had a hand in the form of most things which existed because RTD is like that
10-10-2021 04:30:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm, then it's probably best to submit Simple actions with your intent stated
10-10-2021 04:30:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 5 - sometimes the smallest of touches can tilt the balance. this is one of those times. unless extinguished by an outside power, your actions will have the exact impact you intend. eventually.
10-10-2021 04:30:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Yeah, I think you're fine, but it's rough sometimes.
10-10-2021 04:30:46 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: (but also:)
10-10-2021 04:30:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 6 - the flap of a butterfly's wings causes a hurricane on the other side of the world.
10-10-2021 04:31:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but with simples you won't get horrible outcomes on a 1 or anything
10-10-2021 04:31:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: like in Nak's you are a monster, successfully convincing people to fight smarter not harder meant they vowed to fight harder, and Nak really didn't understand what the goal was.  ;-p
10-10-2021 04:32:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: "You got them pumped up, which is good!"  "The orders were to convince them to be less agressive!"
10-10-2021 04:32:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: but yeah, lots of that.
10-10-2021 04:32:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it can be hard to get inside your head
10-10-2021 04:33:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yeah.
10-10-2021 04:33:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: like, I can guess what tric wants
10-10-2021 04:33:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: anyway, what you describe should be fine.  Like building infrastructure and such having longterm follow on rando stuff.
10-10-2021 04:33:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: 'BURN EVERYTHING'
10-10-2021 04:33:39 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: burn it all!
10-10-2021 04:34:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: [rolls a 1, spawns a Demon of Hatred]
10-10-2021 04:34:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Wheras with me, the answer is 'play the game wrongly.'
10-10-2021 04:43:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: "the result is stronger than your ambition, for better or worse."
10-10-2021 04:43:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that's a 5 at middling difficulty.
10-10-2021 04:45:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: acceptable level of risk? :p
10-10-2021 04:46:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Need the full table, but it sounds interesting.
10-10-2021 05:12:32 < * ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com hugs syv
10-10-2021 05:24:19 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com hugs ER
10-10-2021 05:24:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: think I'll PM this stuff to dev. do you want a look at it too, syv?
10-10-2021 05:25:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: God game stuff?
10-10-2021 05:25:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yesh
10-10-2021 05:25:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Not really interested, then.
10-10-2021 05:25:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: okee
10-10-2021 05:26:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: might be adaptable to general RTD but even so it's probably not your style
10-10-2021 05:26:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: more of a reference book for minimalism...
10-10-2021 05:27:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: ok
10-10-2021 05:30:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I need to make an icosahedron for this map, but I don't know math.
10-10-2021 05:30:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Troublesome.
10-10-2021 05:32:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Oh?
10-10-2021 05:32:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: was the risk you took calculated?
10-10-2021 05:32:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: what are you trying to do, just a 2d icosahedron?
10-10-2021 05:32:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hmm.
10-10-2021 05:33:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: AoTTG has a flat forest map, which is a square.  I copied the map five times, and then rotated each copy around a point above the map, forming a cube where each inner face is an exact copy of the original square forest.
10-10-2021 05:34:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I want to do the same, but using triangular faces to make an icosahedron, with each inner face being a copy of a map.
10-10-2021 05:34:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: So I can rotate it, and the "bottom" is always close *enough* to level.
10-10-2021 05:35:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: do you just need to know all the angles?
10-10-2021 05:35:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I... guess?
10-10-2021 05:35:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes?
10-10-2021 05:35:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: One face of a cube is rotated 90° around the center from any adjacent face.
10-10-2021 05:35:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hrm
10-10-2021 05:36:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: well.. I'd recommend starting from a vertex instead of an edge, personally.
10-10-2021 05:36:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: a side, sorry.
10-10-2021 05:36:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: then you make five triangles around that vertext.
10-10-2021 05:37:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It's sort of problematic, I have to rotate each face independantly.
10-10-2021 05:37:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: ahh, so you need more than12 points.
10-10-2021 05:42:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: For the cube I only needed the center of the cube, and the relative rotatation around the center for each face, which is simple enough.
10-10-2021 05:42:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: But I only know that because a cube's shape is... simple and intuitive.  I don't grok icosahedrons, really.
10-10-2021 05:42:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Annoyingly I forgot to bring one to work, too.
10-10-2021 05:43:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Well.. I can give you the angles.
10-10-2021 05:44:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: but from a center..
10-10-2021 05:44:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I think that can be done, yeah.
10-10-2021 05:44:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'm playing with it right now, but if you give me angles that might help?  I can plug things in and figure it out as I go.
10-10-2021 05:44:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: You don't need to, I was more just randomly talking about what I'm doing.
10-10-2021 05:45:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: well, firstly, there is no exact value.
10-10-2021 05:46:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: any value in decimal coordinates will be an approximation.
10-10-2021 05:47:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It's not very important, it's much much larger than the player, and since they're inside, with the actual shapes outside, the shapes themselves can clip into each other.
10-10-2021 05:47:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I want it mathematically precise only so that I can do it relatively quickly, and hopefully understand the shape a bit better as well.
10-10-2021 05:48:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Teeechnically I could probably do it by hand, working out some way to build references, but that would be slow, and would make modifying the design a bitch.
10-10-2021 05:48:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Yeah, i still recommend working from a vertex as the bottom point instead of a plane.
10-10-2021 05:48:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I don't know how to!  But I can get the coordinates for a vertex?
10-10-2021 05:49:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hrm.
10-10-2021 05:49:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Clouds
10-10-2021 05:49:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: one vertex will be at 0,0,0
10-10-2021 05:49:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: you define the triangles as any three points from that.
10-10-2021 05:50:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: ugh, but you have to copy faces..
10-10-2021 05:50:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: hmm.
10-10-2021 05:50:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: well, the angle between two faces is lemme look it up..
10-10-2021 05:50:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: 138.190 degrees
10-10-2021 05:51:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: the angle from an arbritrary center point is..
10-10-2021 05:52:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: 41.81 degrees.
10-10-2021 05:53:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Thank you
10-10-2021 05:53:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: do note that it gets very messy because they're all in different directions from each other.
10-10-2021 05:53:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah.
10-10-2021 05:54:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: if you can make a block of five, you can mirror that, and then you need a ring around the middle which can be seperated into pairs.
10-10-2021 05:54:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Devastator, sent a PM
10-10-2021 05:54:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I don't know if making the ring would be easier.
10-10-2021 05:55:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Hello Kyubei
10-10-2021 05:56:02 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yes
10-10-2021 05:56:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: for syv, the highest level of difficulty is described with a "that's not how this works you little shit"
10-10-2021 05:59:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: looks failry arbritrary and capricious.  I'd be willing to give it a shot, but expect boredrom.
10-10-2021 05:59:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Not a bad system.
10-10-2021 05:59:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I'm just not that good at godgames.  ;-p
10-10-2021 05:59:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: (It does look good for that, btw.)
10-10-2021 06:01:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Gods should be capricious, I suppose.
10-10-2021 06:01:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Goddamn it, Beatrice.
10-10-2021 06:02:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: good job beatrice
10-10-2021 06:03:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Specifically, I might change the 2 for 2 ambition project to be like a 'it was there once, but it was not to be', like it was gone as soon as you turned around, so to speak.
10-10-2021 06:04:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 2 for 2... but would that be meaningfully different from "nothing happens"?
10-10-2021 06:04:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Not really, except for things like ruins, remains, corpses, or maybe raw materials.
10-10-2021 06:07:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm, remains
10-10-2021 06:07:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that's an idea
10-10-2021 06:12:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: dangit.
10-10-2021 06:12:13 < * Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net wants bird
10-10-2021 06:16:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: bird up
10-10-2021 06:18:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: unfortunately two of the people in birdgame got banned.
10-10-2021 06:18:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Eh?
10-10-2021 06:19:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Which birdgame, and who?
10-10-2021 06:20:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=146184.0
10-10-2021 06:20:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: That one.
10-10-2021 06:21:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: no, had it mixed up.  Blazing wasn't actually playing that.
10-10-2021 06:21:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: god though, I can't read that these days.  Too embarassing.
10-10-2021 06:22:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ahh, okay.  Nun I forgot about.
10-10-2021 06:22:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I remembered Harry and Toaster, and was worried.
10-10-2021 06:22:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: And then for the later birdgame, I think that was us, and Dubs?
10-10-2021 06:23:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: the PM one had you, MJ, and dubs.
10-10-2021 06:23:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: basically just the crew.
10-10-2021 06:23:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: maybe I should have continued that, but I didn't have the motivation I have with Extinction.
10-10-2021 06:24:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Toaster is currently playing the mario cart game!
10-10-2021 06:24:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: fun
10-10-2021 06:24:37 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: mushroom cart game needs more players but I presume you're not interested, syv?
10-10-2021 06:24:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Eh, I guess I might not be against it.
10-10-2021 06:25:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Link me?
10-10-2021 06:25:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: It's pretty good, I just got murdered by rules changes.  ;-p
10-10-2021 06:26:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=178963.0
10-10-2021 06:26:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=178983.0 and there's the completed first race
10-10-2021 06:27:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: basically a simple d6 system with preset actions most of the time, easy enough to play and post actions quickly
10-10-2021 06:27:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but some level of skill involved in knowing the rules
10-10-2021 06:27:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but probably more luck overall~
10-10-2021 06:27:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ugh, I'm trying to figure out what the proper centroid of an equilateral triangle is, to check if this scripting system even has it correct, and the only article I can find which gives a way to calculate it... gives a different answer?  But also seems to give wrong points for the vertexes, which I can verify, and seem to be entirely correct in-game?
10-10-2021 06:27:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: This is confusing
10-10-2021 06:28:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Working with anything that isn't cubes in this game's scripting system is just upsetting.
10-10-2021 06:28:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Hah.
10-10-2021 06:28:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Especially since there's genuinely errors in it which must be accounted for.
10-10-2021 06:29:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: ouch!
10-10-2021 06:29:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I've never messed with triangles before, so I need to test them to make sure calculations are correct.
10-10-2021 06:29:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Most rendering engines are all about triangles.
10-10-2021 06:29:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'm aware, but this is...
10-10-2021 06:30:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: mapmakers hell?
10-10-2021 06:30:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Honestly, I don't even know how it handles triangles relative to a rendering system.
10-10-2021 06:30:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I have to work with fucking _quaternions_ for rotation, which is the worst
10-10-2021 06:30:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: BUGGY quaternions
10-10-2021 06:30:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Which ALWAYS add at least seven digits
10-10-2021 06:31:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Haha
10-10-2021 06:31:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Unless they conver 0 to -7e9
10-10-2021 06:31:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Quaternions, the most pain in the ass things that are geuninely useful.
10-10-2021 06:31:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: That literally fucking happens.
10-10-2021 06:31:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes...
10-10-2021 06:31:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I remember a vid on numberphile that was about the discovery of them.
10-10-2021 06:31:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: well, the invention of them.
10-10-2021 06:31:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Maybe I should watch that.
10-10-2021 06:31:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Did it explain anything about how they work?
10-10-2021 06:32:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I still don't really get it.
10-10-2021 06:32:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: it was on numberphile, so it wasn't in-depth, but it might be helpful.
10-10-2021 06:33:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BR8tK-LuB0
10-10-2021 06:33:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Tha k you
10-10-2021 06:34:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: that wasn't the discovery video, acutally, they must have more than one vid on them.
10-10-2021 06:35:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The mapping system in this game by writing all the values Unity internally uses to define an object.  For location and scale, it's three floats each for dimensions and location along xyz axes.  For rotation, it's four floats for quaternion rotation.  All just written in a row, with commas separating them.
10-10-2021 06:36:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: There's various tools which assist editing, like the rotate-around-point tool that is just invaluable.
10-10-2021 06:37:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Even better, every object is handled according to its origin, which... were all hand-defined by the modder who introduced the system.
10-10-2021 06:37:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Most of the definitions are fairly accurate as in about 1% off or so, but they vary in weird, stupid ways.  Sometimes the origin is at the center.  Sometimes at the bottom.
10-10-2021 06:38:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Then for a rare few special objects it IS way off and is just out in fucking space to the left or something
10-10-2021 06:38:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: gamedev!
10-10-2021 06:39:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I've mentioned before that this game is basically a truly awful coder's crap code cobbled together until it mostly functioned, then duct taped together by a slightly-less crap modder, then partially refactored by a similarly mediocre modder?
10-10-2021 06:39:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: And at some point in there it was obfuscated then de-pbfuscsted
10-10-2021 06:40:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Just the worst
10-10-2021 06:40:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: no, he's getting to the invention story now.
10-10-2021 06:40:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: so this is the vid.
10-10-2021 06:40:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Alright
10-10-2021 06:42:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I also think you might need more professional assistance than some rando on IRC.
10-10-2021 06:47:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: agg.
10-10-2021 06:47:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: got to a video in that guy's SC2 play where he can't research techs, and he's complaining that there's no anti-air unit that can keep up with the unusual vultures he's using.
10-10-2021 06:47:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: and I want to say 'wraiths'
10-10-2021 06:47:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: but wraiths are never used in SC2.
10-10-2021 06:52:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: AGH GOD
10-10-2021 06:52:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: This video is really, really good, thank you
10-10-2021 06:53:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: you're welcome?
10-10-2021 06:59:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "The property you lose is thi--" *video ends*
10-10-2021 07:00:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah, that's way above my head, but makes quaternions make a lot more sense.
10-10-2021 07:00:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I kinda abstratly knew they were useful for lots of stuff, but had no comprehension at all of what the numbers actually *mean*
10-10-2021 07:00:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: the extra footage video covers what you lose.
10-10-2021 07:01:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Just saw it
10-10-2021 07:17:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yep, the fucking midpoint of the triangles is wrong.
10-10-2021 07:18:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: because of course it is.
10-10-2021 07:20:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah...
10-10-2021 07:20:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hrm.
10-10-2021 07:20:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: rip!
10-10-2021 07:21:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Means I need to calculate the offset... but it might not be too bad, since functionally the rotation itself is agnostic to the object's true origin.  It just means there's one less thing I can read and understand.
10-10-2021 07:43:39 -!- MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz has joined #einsteinianroulette
10-10-2021 07:43:48 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: lo
10-10-2021 07:44:13 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: fuck I'm drunk. I always forget how much the alumni drink.
10-10-2021 07:44:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: heya jaggers.
10-10-2021 07:44:45 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hiya dev
10-10-2021 07:44:49 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: How be you?
10-10-2021 07:44:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: going to play a quick surviv game or two with syv.
10-10-2021 07:44:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: but going ok.
10-10-2021 07:45:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: long weekend
10-10-2021 07:45:17 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: oh cool, did I tell you I got another interview invite?
10-10-2021 07:45:53 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Aned whars the long weekend for?
10-10-2021 07:50:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Killed a last survivor with dual m9s, ahaha
10-10-2021 07:50:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Canadian Thanksgiving.
10-10-2021 07:50:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: not bad.
10-10-2021 07:50:41 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: oh cool, I forgot that was in october
10-10-2021 07:50:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: although do credit all the melee damage and the dual shotguns I got in.  ;-p
10-10-2021 07:50:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: next.
10-10-2021 07:53:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Flanked by enemy team.
10-10-2021 07:54:16 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: rough
10-10-2021 07:54:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hey mj
10-10-2021 07:54:41 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hiya ER
10-10-2021 07:54:46 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: how be you?
10-10-2021 07:54:49 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: what is it like to be drunk?
10-10-2021 07:55:00 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: fun
10-10-2021 07:55:21 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Though it depends on the company, you gotta get drunk in hte right situtation or else you just hate it
10-10-2021 07:56:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I don't want company though
10-10-2021 07:56:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Aw
10-10-2021 07:56:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Gamble didn't pay
10-10-2021 07:56:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Wow
10-10-2021 07:56:19 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: But uhh being drunk lets you shut off aproximetly half of your brain and operate mostly on instinct without needing to think too much
10-10-2021 07:56:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Nuts, guy got me a little bit too heavy.
10-10-2021 07:56:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: what was that wow?
10-10-2021 07:56:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: That bomber hates you
10-10-2021 07:56:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that sounds like my normal mode of operation mj. at least when I'm depressed.
10-10-2021 07:56:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Were you the guy who got hit in the red?
10-10-2021 07:57:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yeah.
10-10-2021 07:57:09 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Hmm, intresting ER
10-10-2021 07:57:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: looks like the team won anyway, so it's ok.
10-10-2021 07:57:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The wow was the nearly finished bandage.
10-10-2021 07:57:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yeah, dammit.
10-10-2021 07:57:27 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: To me Alcholol mostly just acts as a mood enchancer.
10-10-2021 07:57:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: too bad, had a nice duel with a guy with a sword and Vector.
10-10-2021 07:57:43 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: So whatever mood I'm already in is probably getting maginified
10-10-2021 07:57:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I think I missed that.
10-10-2021 07:57:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: anyway, next
10-10-2021 07:57:54 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: With a few exceptions
10-10-2021 07:57:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I spectated our teammate with dual glocks.
10-10-2021 07:58:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Who was possibly the opposite of helpful.
10-10-2021 08:00:45 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: How're you syv
10-10-2021 08:01:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hey mj, wanna read the RTD godgame rules I just wrote
10-10-2021 08:01:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: ahh, bastard.
10-10-2021 08:01:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: enemy medic came up from behind with a mac-10
10-10-2021 08:01:45 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: uhhh I'll be honest I'm having to close one eye to read this screen, but sure
10-10-2021 08:02:05 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: send me a link please?
10-10-2021 08:02:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm, a link...
10-10-2021 08:02:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: pastebin, then
10-10-2021 08:02:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: commander has an AWM-s
10-10-2021 08:03:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: https://pastebin.com/raw/V7gDxWeg
10-10-2021 08:03:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: MidJag
10-10-2021 08:03:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: well, it might not make much sense, sorry
10-10-2021 08:04:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: wanan show it though
10-10-2021 08:04:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: bit of a coward
10-10-2021 08:04:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hm?
10-10-2021 08:04:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Dead.
10-10-2021 08:05:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: our team's commander.
10-10-2021 08:05:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: had an AWM-s, but did not play well for teams.
10-10-2021 08:05:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: was that you second to last?
10-10-2021 08:06:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: anyway, I think one more.
10-10-2021 08:06:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I went down to the right of the lonea
10-10-2021 08:06:57 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: this seems confusing but very intresting ER
10-10-2021 08:08:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it's fairly simple, just different d6 tables depending on how hard the thing is
10-10-2021 08:08:26 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: neat
10-10-2021 08:08:49 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it'll require deciding how ambitious each action is, but... well, any godgame requires something like that
10-10-2021 08:08:57 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: To be fair simple concepts are hard rn
10-10-2021 08:10:29 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hmm, I  should probably go to bed
10-10-2021 08:10:46 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: mj needsrest
10-10-2021 08:10:53 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I do
10-10-2021 08:11:00 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: night
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10-10-2021 08:12:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Welp.
10-10-2021 08:12:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: it seems pretty hard to miss with the lone survivor mac-10
10-10-2021 08:12:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hah
10-10-2021 08:12:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes.
10-10-2021 08:13:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: ok, that's enough.
10-10-2021 08:13:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: 50v50 can be fun, but it's not my favorite mode, sorry.
10-10-2021 08:13:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I should carry dual G18s next time I do 50v50.
10-10-2021 08:13:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Nah, I don't much like it either.
10-10-2021 08:14:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Shoulda picked up that bugler instead of trying to snipe with your last 3 bullets.  ;-p
10-10-2021 08:14:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeaaah
10-10-2021 08:14:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I got dropped by the enemy commander, but I got a few good nades.
10-10-2021 08:14:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I lost my mosin for a M249 right after, so eh.
10-10-2021 08:14:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Not so good at sifting through the loot on a battleground.
10-10-2021 08:15:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: ahh, yeah, that's tough.
10-10-2021 08:15:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: If we make logins we might get people in 2v2.
10-10-2021 08:15:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yeah.
10-10-2021 08:16:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: It'll hurt, but I might have to do that in the end.
10-10-2021 08:16:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: next time we play I'll do that.
10-10-2021 08:18:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: so long, #670k
10-10-2021 08:18:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: or whatever my number is.
10-10-2021 08:19:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: #6728911
10-10-2021 08:21:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: and my 10,000 potatoes.
10-10-2021 08:23:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Doesn't that change whenever you join?
10-10-2021 08:23:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: No.  The game is fully capable of tracking players through browser info.
10-10-2021 08:23:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: You could name your account "surviv#6728911"
10-10-2021 08:23:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: If it's a legal number, yes.
10-10-2021 08:23:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: although I'd want to go with my actual name.
10-10-2021 08:23:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: "Nameless Player"
10-10-2021 08:24:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ahhh, yes.
10-10-2021 08:24:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: And I will return to being Nameless Sidekick.
10-10-2021 08:24:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Boo
10-10-2021 08:24:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: well, next time we play.
10-10-2021 09:04:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I wonder if I could play two games of Dark Souls simultaneously.
10-10-2021 09:05:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Somehow hook a controller up to two instances of the game :v
10-10-2021 09:05:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: that'd be tricky.
10-10-2021 09:06:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah.
10-10-2021 09:07:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Troublesome to set up, but I think the game itself might be playable?
10-10-2021 09:07:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: how do you walk?
10-10-2021 09:08:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: One controller controls both characters.
10-10-2021 09:08:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Walk normally
10-10-2021 09:09:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yow.
10-10-2021 09:09:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I assume much of the game would be synchronized.  Bosses would be problematic.
10-10-2021 09:09:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...Inventory management as well too, possibly.
10-10-2021 09:09:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: open while the other is loading.
10-10-2021 09:09:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: do it blindfolded first.
10-10-2021 09:10:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Blindfolded is _much_ harder
10-10-2021 09:13:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: oh dammit.
10-10-2021 09:13:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: vertex coordinates for the icosahedron are easy.
10-10-2021 09:14:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Mm?
10-10-2021 09:14:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: ( 0, ±1, ±φ)
10-10-2021 09:14:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: (±1, ±φ,  0)
10-10-2021 09:14:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: (±φ,  0, ±1)
10-10-2021 09:14:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Was just looking for finding the center coordinate.
10-10-2021 09:14:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...Are those... beds?
10-10-2021 09:15:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Or cloth?
10-10-2021 09:15:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: no, there are 12 vertices.
10-10-2021 09:15:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: one at 0, +1, and +chi
10-10-2021 09:15:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: one at 0, -1, and +chi
10-10-2021 09:15:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: one at 0, +1, and -chi
10-10-2021 09:15:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: and so on.
10-10-2021 09:15:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I think in taht set the center coordinate is at 0,0,0, as it's symmetric.
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10-10-2021 09:16:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: (also, it's phi, not chi.  Gah.)
10-10-2021 09:16:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Well, the issue is, the only coordinates I can manually define are parts of the faces.
10-10-2021 09:17:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...Hm.
10-10-2021 09:17:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Actually...
10-10-2021 09:17:41 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com goes to test.
10-10-2021 09:18:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yeah, you could substitute that with the middle of each triangle.
10-10-2021 09:20:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: bam, dodekahedron.
10-10-2021 09:27:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: goddamn it.
10-10-2021 09:27:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: you want the locations of the middle of the triangle, right?
10-10-2021 09:27:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: and we have the vertex locations?
10-10-2021 09:27:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yes.
10-10-2021 09:27:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Heh.
10-10-2021 09:28:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: since they're all equilateral, you just take half the distance in each direction.
10-10-2021 09:28:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Only half paying attention, working on it.
10-10-2021 09:28:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Uhhh.
10-10-2021 09:28:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "Half the distance in each direction"?
10-10-2021 09:28:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: it's the point tangent to each midpoint.
10-10-2021 09:31:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: so halfway along one face, and (sqrt 3)/2 of the way up.
10-10-2021 09:32:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ahhh, sqrt3/2 is the number I need.
10-10-2021 09:33:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Forumla
10-10-2021 09:33:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...
10-10-2021 09:33:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Wait I fucking had that earlier why did I forget
10-10-2021 09:34:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: too close to the problems.
10-10-2021 09:46:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Finally, okay
10-10-2021 09:46:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437963284835074049/896695169989091348/straightedges.jpg
10-10-2021 09:46:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: This took way more work than is at all reasonable.
10-10-2021 09:47:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: IE I was being very stupid about it.
10-10-2021 09:47:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: But now that I have it, it makes things simpler.
10-10-2021 09:49:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yay.
10-10-2021 09:49:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I should go call someone up at the college.
10-10-2021 09:49:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hm?
10-10-2021 09:49:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Why?
10-10-2021 09:49:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: just imagining.  Someone would know the right name for the shape in question.
10-10-2021 09:50:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'd feel a little bad if you called someone up just to help me with my meme mapmaking.
10-10-2021 09:50:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: This ain't anything serious, it's just me getting overly obsessed with an idea.
10-10-2021 09:51:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yeah, but it's a question.
10-10-2021 09:52:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I mentioned a meme map from a racing game to one several years ago, and the guy was extremely interested in the space it described.
10-10-2021 09:52:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I mean, it's a geometer and you're talking about an exploration of space.
10-10-2021 09:56:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437963284835074049/896697517876596756/10_d20.jpg
10-10-2021 09:56:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: yessss
10-10-2021 09:58:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qNeGSJaQ9Q
10-10-2021 10:02:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: You tempt me to animate it ;p
10-10-2021 10:03:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I just want to see you drive players insane.
10-10-2021 10:05:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'll have to invite people when I finish this.
10-10-2021 10:05:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Record the reactions I get.
10-10-2021 10:06:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The nice thing is, I can delay the rotation so it only starts, say, after they've flown around a bit and seen the basic shape.
10-10-2021 10:06:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "Oh cool so you made a ball that's a forest on the inside, this is a weird but cool ide--wait what the fuck it's MOVING?"
10-10-2021 10:10:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yeah.
10-10-2021 10:11:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Thank you, BTW.  You definitely helped a good bit.
10-10-2021 10:11:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: you're welcome.
10-10-2021 10:13:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: you did like all the work.
10-10-2021 10:13:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: as in all the work.
10-10-2021 10:18:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: also, I think beds are 8s and cloth is §
10-10-2021 10:24:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Cloth is that, yeah.  I don't think phi is... used?
10-10-2021 10:24:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Or silk is that.
10-10-2021 10:25:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Gah it's been too long since I've played.
10-10-2021 10:25:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I think beds are 0 with a dot or something, though.
10-10-2021 10:25:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: phi isn't used that, and cloth and silk both have the same icon.
10-10-2021 10:25:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: maybe.
10-10-2021 10:25:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: I wasn't sure of that.
10-10-2021 10:25:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I WANT to say bed has just a horizontal line across the middle of an O shape.
10-10-2021 10:27:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Phi *is* on the table, it seems.  #237.
10-10-2021 10:28:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yeah, that sounds right.
10-10-2021 10:28:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: lemme go fire it up.
10-10-2021 10:28:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah, beds are theta
10-10-2021 10:29:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: #233
10-10-2021 10:29:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: Yup, looking at one.
10-10-2021 10:29:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Phi also looks very odd on code page 437.
10-10-2021 10:30:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Looks like they just gave up on depicting it quite accurately.
10-10-2021 10:37:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yeaaaah, this is looking reasonable to finish.
10-10-2021 10:37:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: uh oh.
10-10-2021 10:38:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I need to do a hand alignment to reorient, and should be a little more precise with my calculations, but I've got it to the point I can just select a face and rotate it to cover all the remaining faces.
10-10-2021 10:42:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: yay
10-10-2021 10:45:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437963284835074049/896709928994078730/16_of_20_icosahedron.jpg
10-10-2021 10:46:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyb-3x1xf5dq55lyifjq3vslbt3w8.ipv2.telus.net: the end, it is in sight
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10-10-2021 10:47:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: The seams are from slight inaccuracies with my points (I measured them roughly in game), and are acceptable besides; I can just make them wider and longer than they need to be, and the excess will be invisible due to players being inside.
10-10-2021 10:47:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Pretty much if I did this with the full scale map, I'd be done now.
10-10-2021 10:47:32 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Laying in bed, feeling 50% like I'm bored wanna do stuff
10-10-2021 10:47:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Though the full scale is more troublesome to work with.
10-10-2021 10:47:44 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 50% like 5 more minutes please
10-10-2021 10:47:48 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com headpats Egan
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10-10-2021 21:29:39 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS
10-10-2021 21:29:39 -!- Topic set by syv [Saturday 22 May 2021, 04:44:55]