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30-07-2021 04:41:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: heya.
30-07-2021 04:41:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: reading a thriller novel about a theme park.
30-07-2021 05:02:14 < * Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net pokes syv.
30-07-2021 05:02:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: done, now doing dragongame.
30-07-2021 05:03:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: heya.
30-07-2021 05:03:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'm not really doing anything.
30-07-2021 05:04:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: mmm.
30-07-2021 05:04:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: well, choice of skills on option.
30-07-2021 05:04:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: Trence has a new skill on offer.
30-07-2021 05:04:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: any suggestions?
30-07-2021 05:04:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: (not an upgrade)
30-07-2021 05:29:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: uh
30-07-2021 05:29:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: hm
30-07-2021 05:29:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I mean, my first thought is something Dark Souls-y, since I've always thought of him mimicking that kinda playstyle.
30-07-2021 05:30:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: So a dodge roll or parry.
30-07-2021 05:30:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Mechanically... a stun or debuff or DoT would be likely?  Somewhat uninteresting, though.
30-07-2021 05:31:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: A bit late, just finished the post.
30-07-2021 05:31:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: but there is an upgraded counter available.
30-07-2021 05:31:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Aww
30-07-2021 05:31:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Okay.
30-07-2021 05:31:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: Post up.
30-07-2021 05:32:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: you also rolled fairly badly on the availability of spells.
30-07-2021 05:32:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: oh, one more bit to add.
30-07-2021 05:32:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Eh?
30-07-2021 05:33:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Double strike does +++ twice.
30-07-2021 05:33:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ohhh
30-07-2021 05:33:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Is his normal one ++++?
30-07-2021 05:33:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Please add their sheets.  >.>
30-07-2021 05:34:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: finished.
30-07-2021 05:34:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: sigh.
30-07-2021 05:35:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: fine, agh.
30-07-2021 05:35:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "Metal Magic, adding Metal Body buff, like the potions, to a single target.  Does not last the whole body."
30-07-2021 05:35:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Whole battle, you mean?
30-07-2021 05:38:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: "Shadow Messenger, a spell that allows one to talk to any known target, with a range of about a city."
30-07-2021 05:38:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: okay, fine, finish.
30-07-2021 05:39:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: What classes as "known target"?  Name and picture?  Or similar requirements to believing you "know" a person?
30-07-2021 05:39:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: whoops, yeah, meant battle.
30-07-2021 05:39:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: and upgraded.
30-07-2021 05:39:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: you have to know someone and they say yes.
30-07-2021 05:39:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ahh, cool.
30-07-2021 05:39:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: And for Willis/Sesha, it'd be essentially free when used out of combat?  Since their mana regens passively?
30-07-2021 05:39:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: note that 'passively' means 'at the end of the day'
30-07-2021 05:40:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Oh.  :(
30-07-2021 05:40:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: In a city like this, Trence works the same way.
30-07-2021 05:42:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: What's the damage step for spells after extreme?
30-07-2021 05:42:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I'm really tempted to get meditation for Willis.
30-07-2021 05:42:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...Oh.
30-07-2021 05:42:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Would that buff everyone with BA?
30-07-2021 05:47:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: No.
30-07-2021 05:47:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: Meditation ups the damage one step.
30-07-2021 05:47:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: yes it could count with BA.
30-07-2021 05:47:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: but nobody else uses spells.
30-07-2021 05:48:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Does dragon breath not count?
30-07-2021 05:53:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: That's something nobody knows.
30-07-2021 05:54:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: oh, note meditation is supposed to be self-only, not targetted.
30-07-2021 05:54:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: it's a skill.
30-07-2021 05:55:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ah, I assumed that was the case.
30-07-2021 05:55:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Makes sense from the name.
30-07-2021 05:55:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: it also only works on one spell.
30-07-2021 05:58:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Does magic resist work against all spells?
30-07-2021 06:00:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: it's the opposite of magic defense down.
30-07-2021 06:01:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: :)
30-07-2021 06:01:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I would expect so, yes.
30-07-2021 06:02:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Can it stack with itself?
30-07-2021 06:02:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: yes, but I reserve the right to add a time limit to it.
30-07-2021 06:05:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Does Turbo Counter still require enemies to attack *Trence*, or is the upgrade allowing him to counter enemies which attack party members as well?
30-07-2021 06:06:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: There's a change of wording which implies that, but it's a really strong buff if so.
30-07-2021 06:09:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: Just Trence.
30-07-2021 06:10:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Aww
30-07-2021 06:15:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Hrm.  I'm assuming double strike counts as two hits for the purposes of poison, since that's typical for games... but I should ask.  I'd expect them to know this in-universe, since poisoning weapons isn't that uncommon?
30-07-2021 06:16:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: Mostly.
30-07-2021 06:17:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: the insta-death chance is per attack.
30-07-2021 06:17:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: normal poison yes.
30-07-2021 06:19:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Huh, I wasn't expecting you to tell me how the instadeath works with it.
30-07-2021 06:19:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Uh.
30-07-2021 06:19:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: ...I forget, is the venom dragon's clawbuff only instadeath buff?  <.>
30-07-2021 06:20:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It has a spit-poison-on-claws ability.
30-07-2021 06:20:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I thought it was a poison buff like Sessha's, but I forget and asking is quicker than searching.
30-07-2021 06:21:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: no, that's poison damage too.
30-07-2021 06:21:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: ie, like sessha's lethal.
30-07-2021 06:21:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Yay!
30-07-2021 06:27:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: More claw-spitting action!
30-07-2021 06:28:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Issue is that costs an action while in dragon form, *and* needs poison form, which we don't get a large amount of utility out of anyways.  More instakill, but beyond that it seems inferior to T2 forms and weakness forms.  Additionally, double strike is tiring, and the best dragon abilities are also tiring.
30-07-2021 06:29:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: It's a synergy that's there, it's just not as clearly OP as double strike working with instakill.  That brings it closer to turbo counter, which I think is too expensive just for some damage reduction when it gets used.
30-07-2021 06:31:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: spitting isn't tiriing, though.
30-07-2021 06:39:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Is single-target Armoire All equally as strong as the group buff?  Or weaker/stronger?
30-07-2021 06:39:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: It's +2 levels instead of +1.
30-07-2021 06:39:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Ooo!
30-07-2021 06:40:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: Sessha probably learned that one first.
30-07-2021 07:00:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Well I posted my opinions on everything.
30-07-2021 07:01:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Not posting any actual suggestions yet, waiting for discussion from others.
30-07-2021 07:02:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: I think Turbo Combo would be a favorite of mine, if only it were cheaper.  Poison dragon plus that would spread a lot of damage around/
30-07-2021 07:02:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: *instakill
30-07-2021 07:03:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: bladeagon plus that.
30-07-2021 07:05:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Eh, blade + ice + anything is good.
30-07-2021 07:05:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@274-623-716-223.biz.spectrum.com: Instakill and blade damage buff are sort of adjacent in purpose, rather than synergistic.
30-07-2021 07:09:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: bladeagon.
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30-07-2021 11:47:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Devastator, is New Skill: Double Strike supposed to be weaker than Power Slash -> Double Strike?
30-07-2021 11:47:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: former is ++ while the latter is +++
30-07-2021 11:50:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I can see why it makes sense to get some extra damage for losing Power Slash, but paying 2 upgrades for something which does the same damage as current power slash seems useless and like a trap option
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30-07-2021 16:09:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: you get two hits.
30-07-2021 16:12:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: and I think Iceblade + Double Strike would be two hits at ++++.
30-07-2021 16:40:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@ywaf-7f7nl3uy9tutq8r8r4lc988z1.ipv5.telus.net: and yeah, they're different because one is an upgrade.
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