25-03-2021 02:37:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: hmm
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25-03-2021 04:20:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: heya.
25-03-2021 04:22:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: what's up?
25-03-2021 05:21:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: http://youtu.be/h70kbIzPgig
25-03-2021 05:21:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: There's Adam Savage realizing that the whole point of entertainment is to watch people who are totally into whatever it is they do.
25-03-2021 05:21:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: or just missing it.
25-03-2021 05:42:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Well, I fell back asleep after waking up.
25-03-2021 05:42:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: So ugh.
25-03-2021 05:43:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: heya.
25-03-2021 05:43:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: woob.
25-03-2021 05:52:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: looks like the remington takes longer to aim than the other shotguns.
25-03-2021 05:52:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: in return, it's more accurate, hits harder and has much, much less recoil.
25-03-2021 05:54:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: That makes sense.  Ridiculously long barrel and mag tube.
25-03-2021 05:55:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Need an AA-12.
25-03-2021 05:56:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Auto, super low recoil, mobile, mag fed.
25-03-2021 05:56:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Can guns jam in Cata now?
25-03-2021 05:58:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: yes.
25-03-2021 05:59:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: nash, what I need is a belt-feed conversion kit.  ;-p
25-03-2021 05:59:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: "Oh, hey, shock absorbers use fabrication 6, and I'm at 91%.  That'll put me over to 7."
25-03-2021 05:59:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: Fabrication 6 (99%)
25-03-2021 06:06:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: (I have a few books for that last bit.)
25-03-2021 06:09:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Belt feed conversion kit, huh?
25-03-2021 06:09:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: ...I'd love to see a beltfed shotgun.
25-03-2021 06:17:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: And of course someone has done that to a fucking AR15 of all things.
25-03-2021 06:17:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: I don't think it's finished.
25-03-2021 06:18:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: mmm.
25-03-2021 06:18:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: keep getting distracted from finishing up the car.
25-03-2021 06:27:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: heh.
25-03-2021 06:27:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Hm?
25-03-2021 06:27:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: if it hadn't been known, this is going to be one of those updates that makes it clear that Trence = dragon.
25-03-2021 06:28:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: his first impression of a greatsword is that more metal is shinier.  ;-p
25-03-2021 06:31:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: (rolling for three days time)
25-03-2021 06:32:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: (the kids are too scatterbrained to try and train or something, so nope)
25-03-2021 06:32:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: (and 2,7,4, ooh.)
25-03-2021 06:42:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I feel the need to yell at everyone else playing this Zelda game for being incompetent.
25-03-2021 06:43:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: It's vaugely ironic, someone complained that I described my char as "veteran", because we're all at starting level.
25-03-2021 06:43:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: But in terms of competence, everyone else has no clue what they're doing...
25-03-2021 06:44:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: INCOMPETENT
25-03-2021 06:44:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: Did you jump into extinction because it was less incompetent?
25-03-2021 06:44:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: No, I jumped into Extinction because I had more free time again.
25-03-2021 06:45:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: yay.
25-03-2021 06:45:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: also yay to find out it's still incompetent.
25-03-2021 06:45:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Heh.
25-03-2021 06:45:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: No, I like it.
25-03-2021 06:45:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I'd say it's less broken than the Zelda game, mechanically.
25-03-2021 06:46:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: The Zelda game is delicious.
25-03-2021 06:47:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: There aren't that many mechanics in Extinction.
25-03-2021 06:47:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: True.  And it's way less free.
25-03-2021 06:48:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Still, it doesn't ever make me go "Ohhhh!  That's exploitable!"
25-03-2021 06:48:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: 'Cept for Battle Aura.
25-03-2021 06:48:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: But I think that
25-03-2021 06:48:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: 's intentional.
25-03-2021 06:48:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I suspect this group of players is also just a different crowd.  It's iN FG&RP, not RTD, and a bunch of people aren't bolding actions.  Or recording stuff on their charsheets correctly.
25-03-2021 06:49:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: way less free?
25-03-2021 06:49:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: and yes, Battle Aura is supposed to be something very nice.
25-03-2021 06:49:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: it was the reward for a fairly serious puzzle.
25-03-2021 06:49:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: We didn't get to build our characters from the ground up, choosing every technique and spell from a list of like 40.
25-03-2021 06:50:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: But god.
25-03-2021 06:51:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: Ahh.
25-03-2021 06:51:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: Well, expect to get a chance for a new skill or upgrade one before too much longer.
25-03-2021 06:51:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: could have done that during this downtime, but nobody thought of it and the kids like fun too much to do that unprompted.
25-03-2021 06:53:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: We have a wizard who didn't cast a real spell, got knocked down to 25% HP in one hit in the first round, which activates his "dodge better at 25% or less HP" feat.  His action this round, after being told "kill the enemy which has an autohit attack"... was to heal himself to 42% HP (he'll still die in one hit, but has worse dodge chance), and to do this, he has to stay within range of another attack.
25-03-2021 06:53:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: His heal is also hilariously bad.
25-03-2021 06:54:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Burns 2 of his 16 MP (burned mana regens over days, not within five minutes like normal), to heal 2 HP.
25-03-2021 06:54:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Mine burns 1 to heal 3.
25-03-2021 06:55:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: welp.
25-03-2021 06:55:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: well, someone's getting downed.
25-03-2021 06:55:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I actually posted to explain all this.
25-03-2021 06:55:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: heh.
25-03-2021 06:55:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Because that is just too stupid to let go.
25-03-2021 06:56:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: We also already had the smith get downed, but he got the GM to retcon him parrying an attack (GM error), so he's up with minimal HP.
25-03-2021 06:56:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: whoops.
25-03-2021 06:56:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: ...Aaaaand he'd choosing to charge forward as everyone else retreats, so this is actually worse than before, where Egan would pick up his helpless body and drag him to safety.
25-03-2021 06:57:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: bad tactics bad!
25-03-2021 06:57:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Yes.
25-03-2021 06:57:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: oh, also.
25-03-2021 06:57:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: there's no reason to worry about loot slots.
25-03-2021 06:57:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Eh?
25-03-2021 06:57:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: Sessha isn't in your inventory.
25-03-2021 06:57:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Ohhh
25-03-2021 06:57:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Did she take up a bunch?
25-03-2021 06:57:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: yes.
25-03-2021 06:59:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: Also, you get to see something that everyone forgot about come in handy.
25-03-2021 07:00:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Oh?
25-03-2021 07:00:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: you want to make a guess?
25-03-2021 07:01:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Hrm.
25-03-2021 07:01:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: ...I think I forgot it too, so no.
25-03-2021 07:02:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Best idea for keeping Red April is saving money upgrading Alice's eventual weapon.
25-03-2021 07:03:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: But then, I expect Alice to come in with her own equipment.
25-03-2021 07:03:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: actually, selling it here is fine.
25-03-2021 07:03:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: there are trappers in this town.
25-03-2021 07:04:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: some places you wouldn't get much because it's a weird weapon.
25-03-2021 07:05:08 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it undoes his edit...
25-03-2021 07:07:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: So what's the forgotten thing?
25-03-2021 07:08:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: The white communications rod.
25-03-2021 07:08:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: With the circumstances of your return, Sessha didn't give them back.
25-03-2021 07:09:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Yep, this is something I also forgot about.
25-03-2021 07:09:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: so, "Hey, Uncle, what's up?"
25-03-2021 07:10:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I wonder what all the other people think about the surprise army
25-03-2021 07:10:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: various things.
25-03-2021 07:10:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: but fortunately, they haven't caught up yet.
25-03-2021 07:11:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: they're like right there, but still about half a day away.
25-03-2021 07:11:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: there goes all the lead built up by using webshooters to go over the mountains, which was a big help.
25-03-2021 07:11:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: still, Sessha's worth it.
25-03-2021 07:11:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: posted.  No orders yet, just a big to be continued.
25-03-2021 07:12:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: I hope those aren't too awful to see.
25-03-2021 07:12:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Hahahaha
25-03-2021 07:13:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Trence just casually ate a ridiculously poisonous monster, I assume?
25-03-2021 07:14:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: well yes.
25-03-2021 07:14:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: that's what he does.
25-03-2021 07:14:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: edited those couple sentences heavily.
25-03-2021 07:14:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: I do too-long sentences.
25-03-2021 07:15:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Same.  It reads well in its current form, though.
25-03-2021 07:15:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Yeah, good update.
25-03-2021 07:16:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: ok.
25-03-2021 07:20:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: next update is more travel and more talk with Sessha.
25-03-2021 07:20:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: unless a bad roll means more fights.
25-03-2021 07:20:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: well, even so, just less travel.
25-03-2021 07:21:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: glad the update's good.
25-03-2021 07:27:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Mrm
25-03-2021 07:28:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: In the monster balancing segment of the rulebook, they talk about certain levels of monsters requiring attacks which deal triple [stat] damage.
25-03-2021 07:28:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: There's a spell of each element with that damage level, but only one martial technique.  And it requires the enemy to already be at 25% or less HP.
25-03-2021 07:29:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: They also have some techniques and feats for chars who dual-wield weapons... but it's ridiculously worse than a sword and board character.  There's no advantage at all to it, only expensive ways to make it less worse.
25-03-2021 07:30:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I have an increasing desire to rewrite their system.
25-03-2021 07:32:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: ...Yeah, there's *so many* ways it's bad, actually.
25-03-2021 07:41:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: mmm
25-03-2021 07:41:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: In this game that centers so much about equipment level, there's only two advantages to using a non-crap shield.  1: snowboarding.  2: using the shield as your primary weapon, with a zero-quality parrying dagger.
25-03-2021 07:41:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Ironically, the second is a fairly solid choice.  Still far better than dual wielding.
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25-03-2021 07:48:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: snowboarding?
25-03-2021 07:51:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: you know, I know what's so annoying about the lifting requirement.
25-03-2021 07:51:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: there are hand tools that let you lift stuff like that.  You have to attach them to something, but all you need is a few chains.
25-03-2021 07:57:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: There's a special game mechanic for sliding down a slope on top of your shield.
25-03-2021 07:57:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Basically drains durability from it at an absurd rate, in exchange for doubling your movement.
25-03-2021 07:58:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: A high quality shield will last much longer.  Otherwise, quality of a shield only really matters for how much damage it deals.
25-03-2021 07:59:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: mmm.
25-03-2021 07:59:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: snowbard.
25-03-2021 07:59:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: They should *really* have just let shields give a passive boost to armor, based on rank.  And then improved parries a ton, so blocking isn't so much superior.
25-03-2021 08:06:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: mmm, yeah, maybe.
25-03-2021 08:06:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: dual weapons sucking is a zelda thing.
25-03-2021 08:06:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: only villains do that.
25-03-2021 08:09:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Stupid shortsighted designers.
25-03-2021 08:10:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Basically wanted to imitate Zelda, so they made sword and board the best.
25-03-2021 08:10:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: yuppers.
25-03-2021 08:10:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: makes sesne.
25-03-2021 08:11:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: There's also no AoO mechanic, which is just awful for a game with so many fun positioning mechanics.
25-03-2021 08:12:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Lots of movement-related spells and techniques, but when it's basically free to move however you like--excepting kiting--where's the use for it?
25-03-2021 08:16:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: ouch.
25-03-2021 08:18:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: ...And suddenly I realize the swordbeam abilities are auto-hit.  Damn.
25-03-2021 08:20:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: And ridiculously cheap, too.  Basic swordbeam gives you bow range, autohit, and about the best damage possible, while being free.  This is balanced by requiring you to be at full health, and would be totally fine if it weren't autohit.
25-03-2021 08:20:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Peril beam lets you do it if near minimum health, and actually costs a small amount of stamina, but gives you double damage.
25-03-2021 08:21:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: More problematic, sword beam is in the cheapest tier of abilities.  There's very little reason *not* to take it.  You should get to use it at minimum once every battle.
25-03-2021 08:24:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: ZELDAAAAA
25-03-2021 08:25:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Yes.
25-03-2021 08:25:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: But why make it autohit?  It's fine if it's not autohit!
25-03-2021 08:25:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Just to make it ridiculously better???
25-03-2021 08:25:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Bah.
25-03-2021 08:26:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: All I can do is say 'zelda' again.
25-03-2021 08:28:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: I suppose the low interactivity is to some degree forced by the choice of Act 2 focus.
25-03-2021 08:28:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: 'Run Coward' doesn't lead to as much input as is normal.
25-03-2021 08:32:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Ehhh, no, it's more the nature of the game itself.  It's more like we're playing a JRPG video game than a TTRPG.
25-03-2021 08:32:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: In a JRPG you don't tend to get anywhere near the same amount of customization of your characters.
25-03-2021 08:36:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: I meant 'interactivity' not 'customization'
25-03-2021 08:40:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Ahh.  Alright, then yes.  :P
25-03-2021 08:43:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: ooh.
25-03-2021 08:43:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: you can now make folding vehicles other than plain bicycles.
25-03-2021 08:43:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: if every component can fold, the whole vehicle can fold up.
25-03-2021 08:44:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Folding motorcycle?
25-03-2021 08:44:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Folding ATV?
25-03-2021 08:46:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: small batteries are foldable.
25-03-2021 08:46:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: there are no foldable engines.
25-03-2021 08:46:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Aww
25-03-2021 08:47:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Can you make a folding electric ATV, then?
25-03-2021 08:49:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: yes, but I'm not certain as to the range of said vehicle.
25-03-2021 08:49:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: (and no, not entirely, as you'd then need to attach the motor after unfolding it)
25-03-2021 08:49:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: (It's doable enough, really.)
25-03-2021 08:50:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Would it be light enough to actually be carryable?
25-03-2021 08:51:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: I was thinking just putting it in a trunk.
25-03-2021 08:51:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: so I can drive back to pick up a second vehicle.
25-03-2021 08:51:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: and have it be powered by like an 0.9 l engine.  2L fuel tanks are foldable.
25-03-2021 08:52:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: as for carryable, give me a sec.
25-03-2021 08:52:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: I want a quad for the fun of it, so 4 small wheels.
25-03-2021 08:53:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: huh, I don't actually need a battery for a 1 cylinder engine.
25-03-2021 08:57:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: okay, so 20 kg for the engine, about 10kg for each wheel, about 3.5kg for each frame, which will be seven spaces..
25-03-2021 08:57:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: - the eninge since that doesn't fold.
25-03-2021 08:57:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: I can't pocket it, but it's carryable by a strong character.
25-03-2021 08:57:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Nice!
25-03-2021 08:58:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: put a trunk on it and it'd be a nice raiding tool.
25-03-2021 08:58:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Advanced shopping cart.
25-03-2021 08:59:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: trunks don't fold.
25-03-2021 08:59:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: but there are bike baskets.
25-03-2021 08:59:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: it's too soft for that.  I'd want either a one tile magic vehicle or an armoured bed toy if I were going that way.
25-03-2021 09:00:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: no windshield, which also makes driving entertaining.
25-03-2021 09:01:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: there are cloth panels, but you can't see past them.  Might have three in front to cover the wheels a bit.
25-03-2021 09:02:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: and headlights, which is hilarious.
25-03-2021 09:02:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: Can probably afford one of those.
25-03-2021 09:03:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: but that will need a battery.
25-03-2021 09:03:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: battery, attachable 1 cylinder engine, no alternator.
25-03-2021 09:04:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: yeah, you don't need a welder to attach that engine, just a wrench.
25-03-2021 09:04:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: so it works.
25-03-2021 09:26:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Amusing.
25-03-2021 09:26:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Is a one tile vehicle a powered unicycle?
25-03-2021 09:26:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Or just a segway?
25-03-2021 09:30:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: unicycle.
25-03-2021 09:31:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: https://imgur.com/wcZxCKb
25-03-2021 09:51:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Hahahaha, *amazing*
25-03-2021 09:51:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Safe speed: 114 km/h
25-03-2021 09:52:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Can you melee/shoot zombies while riding that monster?
25-03-2021 09:58:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: you can shoot, yes.
25-03-2021 09:58:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@czgw-0n9yc4cj6enjwaa6l86xr9w01.ipv1.telus.net: if you're good enough.
25-03-2021 09:58:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I wanna see that.
25-03-2021 09:59:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Some kind armored mutant ninja riding a motorized unicycle through a city while mowing down zombies with an AR.
25-03-2021 09:59:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Truly magnificent.
25-03-2021 10:09:16 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette
25-03-2021 10:09:30 < * ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com hugs syv
25-03-2021 10:14:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Oh, there you are!
25-03-2021 10:14:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Sleep well?
25-03-2021 10:15:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yes, I think so
25-03-2021 10:16:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: dreamed of a family of magic users fighting a leviathan at a preordained time?
25-03-2021 10:16:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: So Expendable Princess?
25-03-2021 10:18:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I can't think of precisely what you're refering to at this moment
25-03-2021 10:18:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Long Live the Queen.
25-03-2021 10:18:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ah
25-03-2021 10:18:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Raising sim about teaching a magical girl princess things.
25-03-2021 10:19:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: And watching her die.
25-03-2021 10:19:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I was just one of 'em
25-03-2021 10:19:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: IIRC she can end up fighting a magic leviathan.  And presumably dying.
25-03-2021 10:19:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: apparently we had the option of disabling magic use by both us and the leviathan at the start of the battle, which would have probably not been in our favor
25-03-2021 10:20:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: On the other hand, that might have ended with you killing it by ramming it with a boat.
25-03-2021 10:20:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Or just stabbing it with a greatsword.
25-03-2021 10:23:47 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: would have been good if we were mostly martial classes, obviously
25-03-2021 10:26:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hey, shield quality matters for another thing in zelda!
25-03-2021 10:26:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: determines durability! :v
25-03-2021 10:27:02 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: or, how many fights you can go without grabbing a new shield
25-03-2021 10:27:23 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: probably slightly less useful with repairing rules, though
25-03-2021 10:27:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Yeah, but with a rank 1 shield, it'll last six fights before needing a replacement.
25-03-2021 10:28:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Literally anyone can mock together a level 0 shield trivially, if the area has wood.
25-03-2021 10:29:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Could matter at a low level, but if you're at all established I can't see it being a problem.
25-03-2021 10:29:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: or pot lids
25-03-2021 10:30:42 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm, but yeah, if they were just trying to copy botw they're missing a fairly important mechanic there
25-03-2021 10:30:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: shield grade vs damage
25-03-2021 10:30:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Pot lids at least do break after one encounter, so they're pretty crap.
25-03-2021 10:31:11 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: can get buard broken very easily if you block a big enemy with a pot lid
25-03-2021 10:31:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and the next encounter, you pick up another pot lid :p
25-03-2021 10:31:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I invite you to find me a convenient pot lid in this zombie-crab infested infinite beach.
25-03-2021 10:32:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Again, I'd prolly make shields add their rank to your defense while held.
25-03-2021 10:32:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: You only get +1-5, which isn't huge, but considering the cost of another ranked item--and the fact that higher armor is better the more you have--it'd be worthwhile.
25-03-2021 10:32:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: "hey irony, think I could pick up a pot lid for something?"
25-03-2021 10:33:01 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: "eh sure"
25-03-2021 10:33:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: And then probably buff double weapons.
25-03-2021 10:33:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Make a cheap 3-token feat which lets you double attack for 1 stamina.
25-03-2021 10:33:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Suspect I'd buff twohanders as well.
25-03-2021 10:34:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Did you notice how ridiculous sword beam is?
25-03-2021 10:35:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: not really
25-03-2021 10:36:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: more focused on playing a character that's not just playing zelda, to be honest :p
25-03-2021 10:36:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Pity.
25-03-2021 10:36:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Stamina costs are whack.
25-03-2021 10:36:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yes
25-03-2021 10:37:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: At least with magic there's binded effects, elemental toys, and mechanics that you outright can't get any other way.
25-03-2021 10:37:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I wonder how much fatal strike is even worth it
25-03-2021 10:37:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Techniques?  Just way way too expensive.
25-03-2021 10:37:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I struggle to think of a situation where it would be particuarly useful.  :(
25-03-2021 10:37:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you deal a huge amount of damage to an enemy that's already mostly dead for all your stamina~
25-03-2021 10:38:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: so, 25% easier bosses
25-03-2021 10:38:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Perhaps.
25-03-2021 10:40:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: bosses could have fairly close margins, so it could be the difference between victory and defeat
25-03-2021 10:40:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: provided that I actually hit my Learn Lore so I know how much HP it has :v
25-03-2021 10:46:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I suppose it *is* the cheapest triple stat attack.
25-03-2021 10:47:42 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it would probably have been a better idea to take a bit more accuracy and a bit less combat and use Combo instead of Lethal Strike
25-03-2021 10:50:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Ehhh, no.
25-03-2021 10:50:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Triple attack means triple armor mitigation.
25-03-2021 10:50:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: We're already meeting heavy armor, and I doubt that'll change.
25-03-2021 10:51:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 6 seems to be "medium" for grade 1 enemies
25-03-2021 10:53:08 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: combo would also give more chances for random maneuvers, right?
25-03-2021 10:54:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: For all the good those do.  :P
25-03-2021 10:55:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: More crit chances is alright, I suppose.  17% chance of a crit every attack.
25-03-2021 10:55:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: ...Huh.  Crits do double weapon damage, rather than double combat.
25-03-2021 10:55:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: And weapon damage will usually be a good bit above.
25-03-2021 10:56:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: That's... actually a pretty good trade, then.
25-03-2021 10:56:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: (it's still a hilarious interaction that weaponless attacks can crit, but deal the exact same amount of damage)
25-03-2021 10:57:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: so crit enchantment combo would be good
25-03-2021 10:58:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Yeah, weapon damage is usually double your damage stat, assuming normal progression.
25-03-2021 10:58:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: do crits always hit?
25-03-2021 10:58:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: if so, maybe prioritize weapon damage over accuracy
25-03-2021 10:59:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: I don't think so?
25-03-2021 10:59:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Anyways, if an attack normally does 3X, then your final strike thingy will deal 5X.  And a crit will also deal 5X.
25-03-2021 11:00:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: So combo would be 9X-3Y to 15X-3Y,  HEAVILY tending towards 9X, while final strike is 5X-Y on imperiled targets only.
25-03-2021 11:02:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Ohh, it's actually only a roll of 12.  I thought it was doubles for some reason.
25-03-2021 11:02:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: doubles for a free manuver
25-03-2021 11:02:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Ahh.  Yep.
25-03-2021 11:03:14 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: can crit on 11 with an enchantment and I think that's it?
25-03-2021 11:03:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Can get a crit gem which increases the range, but not by that much really.  Rank 1 gives you a 25% crit chance.
25-03-2021 11:03:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Crit range is buffed by rank + 0.5*rank.
25-03-2021 11:03:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: So a level 1 enchant puts it to crit on 10-12.
25-03-2021 11:04:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Errr
25-03-2021 11:04:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: * buffed by 1 + rank*0.5
25-03-2021 11:04:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah, that would round up
25-03-2021 11:04:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Rank 5 enchant would be 8-12.
25-03-2021 11:05:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Everything rounds up, unless it doesn't.
25-03-2021 11:06:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: rank 5 would be really good, if you... had someone with max enchant skill, a fully upgraded forge, and a perfect gem
25-03-2021 11:07:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: mm
25-03-2021 11:07:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: want to write, can't think very straight though
25-03-2021 11:07:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: will get food
25-03-2021 11:08:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Rank 5 enchantments get stupid.
25-03-2021 11:09:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: A rank 5 mighty enchant gives Fenil +8 damage on attacks in demon form, multiplied by spells.
25-03-2021 11:30:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: accidentially made a kawaii little serving of instant grits because I still don't know how to measure things, apparently
25-03-2021 11:31:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Hah.
25-03-2021 11:31:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: It helps to use some kind of container.
25-03-2021 11:33:11 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I just couldn't figure out how I was supposed to measure 3 tbsp
25-03-2021 11:33:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: so instead I just put stuff in a bowl in what seemed like reasonable proportions
25-03-2021 11:33:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Oh, I asked Irony in Discord, he gave Solun that parry.
25-03-2021 11:33:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: So you can't rescue him from his own stupidity any more.
25-03-2021 11:36:42 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: how safe will I be if I don't sprint north and the soaker doesn't die?
25-03-2021 11:37:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Well it'll probably murder reed or Solun first?
25-03-2021 11:38:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: still don't know what Solun is actually doing
25-03-2021 11:39:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: You currently have six tiles of distance, so if you move six... it needs to have a move of 4 to reach you.  Which I think it does have.
25-03-2021 11:39:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: His action is to use a windup strike on the soak.
25-03-2021 11:39:49 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that was his LAST turn's action
25-03-2021 11:40:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: which for some reason he still posted even though he could have seen he was late
25-03-2021 11:40:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Irony apparently missed that, as he didn't roll vs conc.
25-03-2021 11:43:14 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: if I hit the soak with my shiekah dagger, I think it would be 1 off lethal, right?
25-03-2021 11:43:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: with a throw
25-03-2021 11:43:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 7 weapon + 3 combat - 6 defense = 4 damage
25-03-2021 11:44:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Ah, no, that should be a kill.  I deal 15 damage, down to 9.  Soak has 12 HP, and already took one point of damahe, so 2HP left.
25-03-2021 11:46:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: fuck it, I'm doing that
25-03-2021 11:47:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: either we can beat these or I can get a new weapon
25-03-2021 11:52:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Reasonable.
25-03-2021 11:53:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you know, goron style weapons don't seem very good
25-03-2021 11:54:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: less damage, more durability
25-03-2021 11:54:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: meaning... less ability to pierce defense, but less materials spent over time?
25-03-2021 11:56:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Yeah, it's terrible.
25-03-2021 11:56:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Glass is dumb.
25-03-2021 11:59:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: may as well go boko style so that you can live in the woods and kill things with sharp sticks~
25-03-2021 12:03:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Boko would've been VERY good for this situation, yes.
25-03-2021 12:05:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: though even if you have a bunch of boko spears to toss around, it might not be better than dross toss for damaging craaabs
25-03-2021 12:06:24 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: of course, we're assuming that we're fighting crabs just because these are the first enemies we meet
25-03-2021 12:06:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: there might be other rank 1 enemies with a lot less defense
25-03-2021 12:13:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Crabs are rank 2.  :P
25-03-2021 12:14:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: may, shamber is rank 1
25-03-2021 12:14:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: nay
25-03-2021 12:15:08 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: smarms are 0
25-03-2021 12:15:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but the big crabs are the same rank as us, more or less
25-03-2021 12:15:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: They have way too much armor to be rank one.
25-03-2021 12:16:14 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: no, they have 6 armor
25-03-2021 12:16:23 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: which is rank 1, medium armor
25-03-2021 12:16:36 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and they're crabs, so it makes sense for them to count as armored
25-03-2021 12:17:00 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and they lose out on some mobility for it, which is why they're speed 4
25-03-2021 12:17:14 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: or wait, no, that's just evasion
25-03-2021 12:17:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I don't know why they're slow. probably just because they're crabs
25-03-2021 12:17:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Swarm has 10 defense.
25-03-2021 12:17:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: And 9 evasion.
25-03-2021 12:17:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Which by the book is about a rank 2 heavy
25-03-2021 12:18:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: swarms have 1 hp, they don't even binefit from defense
25-03-2021 12:18:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: SIGH
25-03-2021 12:18:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Shambler.
25-03-2021 12:18:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: Used the wrong word.
25-03-2021 12:19:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm, yeah, I dunno why that has 10 defense
25-03-2021 12:19:11 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: should be 8
25-03-2021 12:24:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: But yeah.  Their attacks mostly twoshot us, while ours take *many* more than two to kill.  My attacks are our best, and I need to land four to kill a shambler.
25-03-2021 12:25:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.khg.it: ...Do we have anyone else who reasonably *can* kill a shambler without relying on chip damage?
25-03-2021 12:25:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: not sure
25-03-2021 12:25:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 10 is a lot
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