23-03-2021 03:32:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: posted in Revenant.
23-03-2021 03:32:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: k
23-03-2021 03:32:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: bird is too curious to do nothign.
23-03-2021 03:32:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: hopefully curiosity helps here, although I have no idea, really.
23-03-2021 03:44:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: burn it all
23-03-2021 03:47:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: to be honest, I'd rather get control over it, or feed it to the snakegod to get free of it.
23-03-2021 03:47:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: but if that fails, eh, maybe burning is the one true path.
23-03-2021 03:47:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: and it's too good to not try out at least once.
23-03-2021 03:50:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: not sure if the path of fire is compatable with snakegod's path
23-03-2021 03:50:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: or the rending light's path, for that matter
23-03-2021 03:50:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: sure is a lot of destruction, devouring...
23-03-2021 03:51:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, but snakegod eats things.
23-03-2021 03:51:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: and is probably a biiit stronger than whatever kid mage is, at least at this current time.
23-03-2021 03:52:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: so maybe snakegod will just chow down on the power.  Getting something in return would be sweet, but being freed is a reward in itself.
23-03-2021 03:57:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: plus hey, braineating, so adding more eating power to it might even synergize.
23-03-2021 03:59:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: murder eat kill burn
23-03-2021 03:59:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: eh, first three.
23-03-2021 03:59:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: and add 'read everything'  ;-p
23-03-2021 04:00:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: no, no read
23-03-2021 04:00:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: only burn
23-03-2021 04:01:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: aww.
23-03-2021 04:01:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: but bird want read.
23-03-2021 04:01:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: those aren't your orders
23-03-2021 04:02:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: Nope.
23-03-2021 04:03:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: later, hopefully.
23-03-2021 04:03:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: but if I end up giving it up, might as well learn what I've lost.
23-03-2021 04:22:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: https://lparchive.org/Dominions-5-(by-gonadic-io)/Update%2021/10-ZAfm1Uf.png
23-03-2021 05:13:50 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj has joined #einsteinianroulette
23-03-2021 05:15:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Important question: is the big hat clown *good?*
23-03-2021 05:23:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: no
23-03-2021 05:23:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: i'ts not bad, but it's a stupid high-power mod game, so not really.
23-03-2021 05:39:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: also the clown mod maker doesn't seem to like circuses.
23-03-2021 05:39:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: clown descriptions are amusing and the heroes are hilarious, but some might not be enough time..
23-03-2021 05:40:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: CLOWN
23-03-2021 05:40:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: yeah.
23-03-2021 05:43:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: was the concept of clown themed succubi something I invented myself, or did I base it on something? I don't recall
23-03-2021 05:43:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I find it amusing, though
23-03-2021 05:45:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
23-03-2021 05:45:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: cly crow succubi.
23-03-2021 05:46:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: not birdgirl
23-03-2021 05:46:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: just bird.
23-03-2021 05:46:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: ;-p
23-03-2021 05:46:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: just bird!
23-03-2021 05:47:02 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: A demonic bird alights upon a nearby fencepost and attempts to seduce you. What do you do?
23-03-2021 05:47:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: agh.
23-03-2021 05:47:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: nah, I'll leave the seduction to snakelady.
23-03-2021 05:48:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: will snakelady seduce the bird, though?
23-03-2021 05:48:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: dunno.
23-03-2021 05:48:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: I will admit being on fire probably will reduce the odds of that.
23-03-2021 05:51:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: although there's an odd thing with Dominions mod nations.
23-03-2021 05:51:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: There are many super OP nations.
23-03-2021 05:51:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: many moderately OP nations.
23-03-2021 05:51:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: but many utter trash nations.
23-03-2021 05:51:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: outside of a few extremely common themes, such as disease healers, it's a wide range.
23-03-2021 05:52:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Clown succubi *almost* makes sense.
23-03-2021 05:53:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Both are things entirely built around attracting attention to themselves.
23-03-2021 05:53:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: A ninja clown or ninja succubus would clash with itself.
23-03-2021 05:53:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: ...Which I guess means a pirate clown would work?
23-03-2021 05:54:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: ...It totally would.  Hrm.
23-03-2021 05:54:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: a ninja clown could work
23-03-2021 05:54:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: the stealth just helps them position
23-03-2021 05:54:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: the ninja clown would be unstoppable.
23-03-2021 05:54:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: but be extremely hard.
23-03-2021 05:54:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: pirate clown would be easy.
23-03-2021 05:54:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: didn't I send you the video with the clown airpirates?
23-03-2021 05:54:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Now you've just got a clown that's very stealthy, basically turning off their clown-ness until the most opportune time.
23-03-2021 05:54:49 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: versus vampires?
23-03-2021 05:54:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: No?
23-03-2021 05:55:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: https://youtu.be/kGj_HkKhhSE
23-03-2021 05:56:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: oh god.
23-03-2021 05:56:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: https://lparchive.org/Dominions-5-(by-gonadic-io)/Update%2045/5-dnPD8UK.png
23-03-2021 05:56:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, mod nation bullshit.  Those are cheap summonable units, which would be top-tier research summons AND have useful battlefield options at the same time.
23-03-2021 05:59:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: the player running them has a Str + 10 bless, which means the fist-mages hit for a perfectly accurate 31 damage a turn, for no fatigue cost, forever.
23-03-2021 05:59:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Muscle wizard specialized in fist magic.
23-03-2021 05:59:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Amazing.
23-03-2021 05:59:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: put a dozen of them behind a horde of freespawn chaff, and punch punch punch punch..
23-03-2021 06:05:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: "It's a custom low-fatigue soul slay, that only affects sacred units. That requires holy 3 but only air 1 and is available at zero research. What? What is going on? They also get custom versions of charm at H2A1 that doesn't have the sacred limitation, and then an AOE 15 charm at holy 5. This seems insanely good to me given that they have recruitable H3s."
23-03-2021 06:05:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: Ahh, mod bullshit runs into other mod bullshit.
23-03-2021 06:06:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: "It's a spell that is ok because normally only super-rare summons and your pretender can cast it.  And this nation, which has them mass-recruitable."
23-03-2021 07:09:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: How's Zeldagame?
23-03-2021 08:17:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: We've been debating weird RAW stuff for awhile.
23-03-2021 08:18:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: mmm
23-03-2021 08:19:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Irony matched us against enemies about twice as strong as they should be to be "fair", by rules.  Plus they're outnumbering us 6 to 5, and we just had one of our weaker people get oneshot, with our second mage going down to critical health.
23-03-2021 08:19:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: whoopsies.
23-03-2021 08:19:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: And we dealt a grand total of 1 damage.
23-03-2021 08:19:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: sounds like Irony's playing hardball.
23-03-2021 08:19:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: or wants someone to BDH you.
23-03-2021 08:19:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: or you to run.
23-03-2021 08:20:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Kiting is effective here, I have an amazing kite spell, and we're all about 50% faster than the monsters.
23-03-2021 08:20:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: We're mostly debating the precise nature of how to kite.
23-03-2021 08:20:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Worst comes to worst, I can just have my char break her disguise (she's a secret demon) and fly, then just laugh as all the enemies are bombarded by ranged attacks from above.
23-03-2021 08:21:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: But in that scenario everyone else probably dies...
23-03-2021 08:22:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: We also do have a very tough knight who plinks every enemy hit, but he would definitely get swamped and killed before winning, in a straight fight.
23-03-2021 08:22:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Plus crits could murder him/
23-03-2021 08:23:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: My first turn was wasted on a mostly useless delay action.  But I learned something!  Namely that swarms counter my best spell, rather than being hard countered by my best spell.
23-03-2021 08:24:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: ouch.
23-03-2021 08:25:47 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: irony probably should have let those little crabs just idiotically die to thorns
23-03-2021 08:26:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Yeaaah.
23-03-2021 08:26:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: They're zombie crabs!  Why are they *smart?*
23-03-2021 08:26:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: literally both zombie and crab
23-03-2021 08:27:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: OTOH, if it weren't for that, my action would be "everyone, retreat!  I will cast thorns behind us, and we basically just win then."
23-03-2021 08:27:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: "They're zombies, why are they smart?"
23-03-2021 08:27:35 -!- Devastator is now known as Moldbin
23-03-2021 08:27:39 < Moldbin!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: "Caw"
23-03-2021 08:27:42 -!- Moldbin is now known as Devastator
23-03-2021 08:27:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Good point, bird.
23-03-2021 08:27:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: revenants are definately smart
23-03-2021 08:28:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: these are husks, technically
23-03-2021 08:28:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: They do seem to be kinda revenant crabs.
23-03-2021 08:28:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: motivated purely by bloodlust
23-03-2021 08:28:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: They're so angry and hungry they refuse to stay dead.
23-03-2021 08:29:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: As we go and I reread rules, I'm learning a lot about how different strategies are optimal or not.
23-03-2021 08:29:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: That does seem comparable to revenants.
23-03-2021 08:29:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: can you seduce them?
23-03-2021 08:29:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: I very much want to try!
23-03-2021 08:29:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: But it would be a really bad idea right now.
23-03-2021 08:30:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: For instance, feats are amazing.
23-03-2021 08:31:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Most techniques and spells are priced similarly, but are basically "once a fight" things.
23-03-2021 08:32:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: For instance, there's a 9 cost spell which costs... 20 MP.  Which is well over my max, and half the theoretical max.  So you get it once ever, *and* can't use many more spells after.
23-03-2021 08:32:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Or I could take a feat to give me natural flier (which lets me stay out of range of almost any attacks, forever, in addition to lots of out of combat uses) for the same cost.
23-03-2021 08:34:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: There's a gem enchant which gives +X to both the main combat stats, which are normally exclusive, but my char is able to use both at the same time to power up attacks.
23-03-2021 08:34:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Small damage increases are outsizely valuable, because armor mitigates most damage.  Most of our people are unable to deal more than 1 HP of damage without a crit.
23-03-2021 08:35:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: For the same reason, penetrating attacks are awesome, which makes my functionally infinite-use thorns terrain completely ridiculous.  Unless we fight swarms.  Which we're doing.
23-03-2021 08:36:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Move speed buffs are also *amazing*, but unfortunately they're understandably extremely expensive.
23-03-2021 08:38:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: For the most part, there's three.  A huge cost feat, and two armor enchants.  One that buffs your mount's speed (my char is big enough to be used as a mount), and one that buffs your own move speed, conflicting with the damage buff.
23-03-2021 08:39:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: That's actually good enough that it'd be worthwhile to take feats for fighting while someone is riding me, *just* so they can use enchants that buff my speed, without getting in the way of my damage.
23-03-2021 08:40:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Though it has antisynergy with almost everyone else.
23-03-2021 08:41:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: there is synergy for fenil being ridden by isha
23-03-2021 08:42:08 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: said synergy is that we get to make dirty jokes
23-03-2021 08:43:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Yes.
23-03-2021 08:43:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Get a bow and it
23-03-2021 08:43:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: 'd work great.
23-03-2021 08:43:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yes
23-03-2021 08:43:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: ...Or actually, just sing.
23-03-2021 08:43:47 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: need to save solun or else we're never getting good weapons :p
23-03-2021 08:43:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Yes.  :(
23-03-2021 08:44:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Songs tend to be an AoE centered on you, so a mounted bard is actually probably pretty great?
23-03-2021 08:44:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: a pair can be enough teamwork.
23-03-2021 08:44:56 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah, would be good with the shadow song
23-03-2021 08:45:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: also I'd get to make jokes about Twilight Princess.
23-03-2021 08:45:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: which fucks up every enemy in the area but makes you slow while you play
23-03-2021 08:46:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I was thinking that TP Link could be represented as a demon in this system :p
23-03-2021 08:46:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: though who knows how the wolf form can fly
23-03-2021 08:47:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: it just has mobility 3.
23-03-2021 08:48:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Hum, shadow song blocks all standard actions.
23-03-2021 08:48:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: So you'd be amazing support, but also be largely unable to do anything during combat except channel your AoE.
23-03-2021 08:49:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: though, my ability to actually get new songs is at the whims of our killer GM~
23-03-2021 08:49:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: "Every enemy has -2 to-hit except for the ridiculously fast flier optimized for kiting" is seriously great, though.
23-03-2021 08:49:49 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: can't get them as normal rewards, they don't even have a cost
23-03-2021 08:49:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: *to-hit anyone aside from the flier
23-03-2021 08:50:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Yeah.  But that one seems likely, with how this whole area is infested by fucking undead crabs.
23-03-2021 08:50:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: mhm
23-03-2021 08:51:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: though, that song doesn't hurt undead...
23-03-2021 08:52:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Sadly.
23-03-2021 08:52:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: " All Magical Songs take 5 minutes to play,
23-03-2021 08:52:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: and can only be played when there are not
23-03-2021 08:52:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: significant distractions – thus, they cannot be
23-03-2021 08:52:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: played during battle, nor can they be played
23-03-2021 08:52:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: while moving."
23-03-2021 08:52:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and is largely only useful with the chance to *prepare*, because the effects only come in after five minutes of playing
23-03-2021 08:52:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Wait wait wait
23-03-2021 08:52:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: They can't be played while moving
23-03-2021 08:53:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: But the song specifies you're slowed while playing?
23-03-2021 08:53:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: shrug
23-03-2021 08:53:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: specific beats general
23-03-2021 08:54:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but it certainly seems like a great song to play whilst riding into the enemy fortress on the back of a demon~
23-03-2021 08:55:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: *shoulders*
23-03-2021 08:55:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Hilariously, Fenil's only nine foot when demon, not even double Isha's 5'2"
23-03-2021 08:56:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: what other mount buffs are there?
23-03-2021 08:57:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: what does fenil look like in demon form, anyways?
23-03-2021 08:57:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: it sounds like a rich vein of badly-balanced abilities.
23-03-2021 08:59:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: That's for you to find out, Egan~
23-03-2021 09:00:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Nothing much, really.
23-03-2021 09:00:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: oh well, resumably everyone else will get owned by crabs and fenil will have to transform to save isha~
23-03-2021 09:01:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: There's a few feats for mounted combat, but they're mostly just "you no longer take penalties for mounted combat"
23-03-2021 09:01:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Which are cheap, at leasy.
23-03-2021 09:01:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: There ARE some techniques that can be used, but they're meh and way too expensive.
23-03-2021 09:02:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Oh wait, hell
23-03-2021 09:02:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: HAHAHAHAHAHA
23-03-2021 09:02:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: "Effect: You gain +2 to resist any attempts to
23-03-2021 09:02:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: dismount you (such as being Pushed or
23-03-2021 09:02:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Knocked Prone). In addition, you may
23-03-2021 09:02:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: choose whether to use your Traits or your
23-03-2021 09:02:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: mount's Traits to resolve Combat Maneuvers
23-03-2021 09:02:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: while mounted."
23-03-2021 09:02:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: That is AMAZING
23-03-2021 09:02:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Just straight up "you can use your mount's stats for combat actions"
23-03-2021 09:04:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Aside from that there's a charge ability, which deals a trivially useless amount of damage (it should be penetrating, mistake on the author's part) and giving you a +1 to hit.
23-03-2021 09:04:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: And a defensive ability which uses 4 stamina from you, and 8 from your mount.
23-03-2021 09:04:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Decent, if your mount is a horse with a pile of stamina and nothing to spend it on.
23-03-2021 09:04:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: oh man.
23-03-2021 09:04:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Uselessly expensive otherwise.
23-03-2021 09:05:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: "You can use someone else's traits to resolve combat"?
23-03-2021 09:05:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: That sounds amazing.
23-03-2021 09:05:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: Also why characters generally aren't allowed to ride each other in most games.  ;-p
23-03-2021 09:05:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: eh, it doesn't seem super great?
23-03-2021 09:06:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: manuevers are specific things, which if you do you're not doing damage
23-03-2021 09:06:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and if your mount is also a player, they'll have about as good stats for those as you do
23-03-2021 09:07:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Unless your mount is much better at them!
23-03-2021 09:10:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Disarm is acc + combat, so not one that's good here, but is very strong.
23-03-2021 09:10:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Sand attack is acc + guile, and definitely strong.
23-03-2021 09:11:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: But yeah.  You'd have to build for it.
23-03-2021 09:11:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: It'd be a neat way to turn a noncombatant rider into a very useful force.
23-03-2021 09:11:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Just a pity you can't do it for social maunevers.
23-03-2021 09:11:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: "I'm riding a giant demon lady!  This makes me super good at flirting!"
23-03-2021 09:12:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Grapple would be very exploitable.
23-03-2021 09:13:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Have a flying mount sweep down, you grapple the enemy, flying mount flies up.
23-03-2021 09:13:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: You drop enemy.
23-03-2021 09:13:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Deals a solid chunk of penetrating damage, and with Fenil you could do a double dose of thorns damage.
23-03-2021 09:15:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: can Fenil fly?
23-03-2021 09:16:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: can fly and glide, but isn't very good at it
23-03-2021 09:20:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Have to buy a feat to get good at flying.  Very expensive feat, too.
23-03-2021 09:21:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: How it works is that my char has two forms.  A normal person form, which gives me a bonus to will saves, a bonus against will saves, and bonuses for social stuff.
23-03-2021 09:21:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: And then a demon form, which is big, mountable, buffs damage, gives me bonuses for and against fort saves, and bonuses for intimidating social stuff (which can be used in combat).
23-03-2021 09:21:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: including combat flirting in human form :p
23-03-2021 09:21:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Also locks some of my expendable resources.
23-03-2021 09:22:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I told oz about combat flirting in this system one time and he started complaining about one piece
23-03-2021 09:22:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Yeah, there's a cheap feat called "wingman", which lets me apply social manuever bonuses to allies instead.
23-03-2021 09:22:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: And human-form demons can flirt twice per round...
23-03-2021 09:22:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Flirting makes an enemy unable to attack you.
23-03-2021 09:23:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: So with wingman, I can make two allies immune to being attacked by a specific enemy.  Or myself and one other ally.
23-03-2021 09:23:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Honestly, it's decently balanced, since bosses should be hard to flirt-disable, but it's too funny not to go for.
23-03-2021 09:24:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Oh, and demon also gives flight.
23-03-2021 09:25:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and half will to combat based things and half combat to will based things
23-03-2021 09:27:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: That's what I meant by "buffs damage".
23-03-2021 09:28:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: It's not even all that great, except for mighty enchantments.
23-03-2021 09:34:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: I like this game.  It's deliciously cracked.
23-03-2021 09:35:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: irony seems to allow sprinting while carrying items in general
23-03-2021 09:35:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: how shall we brutally exploit this and make him regret his mercy?
23-03-2021 09:38:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: That's hard to exploit, due to belt mechanics.
23-03-2021 09:40:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Maybe, like, dropping bombs.
23-03-2021 09:41:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: I think dropping is a free action, so you can sprint with two bombs, drop both, and basically get two attacks while moving at max speed.
23-03-2021 09:43:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Huh.  Bombs deal 8 fixed damage, which is crap.
23-03-2021 09:44:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Otherwise, this would work fine.  Fight normally, but light two belt-bombs as your free actions.
23-03-2021 09:44:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Next turn, sprint around and drop both in clusters of enemies, they'll immediately explode and deal nice AoE damage at the end of your turn.
23-03-2021 09:45:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Should try to get Irony to let bombs deal penetrating damage first, so they're actually, like... usable.
23-03-2021 09:48:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Oh wait it does ignore defense.
23-03-2021 09:48:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: They just say that later, rather than next to the damage number, like everything else.  -.-
23-03-2021 09:48:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: So yeah, that's actually really nice.  You get 16 guaranteed AoE damage.
23-03-2021 09:50:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: damn
23-03-2021 09:51:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: i was thinking that making a light damage weapon would be nice if we're gonna keep running into zombies, but light needs diamonds, which are probably hard to come by :9
23-03-2021 09:58:36 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: there's a cheap light spell, but it's melee range and isha doesn't have great Will, so I'd worry a bit about trying to use it
23-03-2021 09:59:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: I was thinking I'd take that for Fenil.  It's a very nice status effect, and leads to Hylia's Light Arrow, which is perhaps the best triple will spell.
23-03-2021 09:59:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Cursed is a *great* status effect.
23-03-2021 10:00:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: light arrows are traditionally final boss killers, so that checks out~
23-03-2021 10:00:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Usually not used by demons, though~
23-03-2021 10:01:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: ...Bombs may indeed be just OP.
23-03-2021 10:02:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: when in doubt, blow the shit outta them?
23-03-2021 10:02:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: If Isha rides Fenil, and they both light tons and tons of bombs while dropping them from the sky, they could probably get ~60 damage AoEs every round.
23-03-2021 10:02:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: *Penetrating* AoEs, with +8 to hit.
23-03-2021 10:03:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Bombs are also relatively cheap to make.  Cloth + monster bits
23-03-2021 10:11:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: ...Oh, they're guaranteed to hit, too.  I'm dumb.
23-03-2021 10:11:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.ypw.uj: Yeah, bombs are awesome.
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23-03-2021 11:01:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: bombs are op.
23-03-2021 11:01:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@hopj-0s9ib9va1riuv9nbe4b0xmcj5.ipv6.telus.net: it's zelda.
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