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04-02-2021 01:58:25 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: lo
04-02-2021 02:41:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: 'lo
04-02-2021 02:41:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: hey MidJag_
04-02-2021 02:41:36 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: boop
04-02-2021 02:41:36 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: hiya dev
04-02-2021 02:42:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: ryu is still good at mario.
04-02-2021 02:42:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: mahrio
04-02-2021 02:42:57 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Unsuprising.
04-02-2021 02:43:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: yes.
04-02-2021 02:43:30 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Ryu could be missing both hands and operating the controller with his tongue and nose still be better at mario then I am.
04-02-2021 02:43:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: but still good at mario.
04-02-2021 03:04:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: oh my god.
04-02-2021 03:05:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: Chuck at SFDebris finally caught up after literal years of delayed requests, due to various crisis and having to move hosting services around.
04-02-2021 03:05:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: Just started doing movies again.  Did Lilo and Stich last week..
04-02-2021 03:05:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: this week, Idiocracy.
04-02-2021 03:05:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: now that's rough.
04-02-2021 03:06:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: baaad timing.
04-02-2021 03:08:43 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: What is SF debris?
04-02-2021 03:09:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: https://sfdebris.com
04-02-2021 03:09:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: very long running video review site.
04-02-2021 03:09:44 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Ah.
04-02-2021 03:09:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: from about 2008-ish.
04-02-2021 03:09:48 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Damn
04-02-2021 03:09:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: does not do things like a modern youtuber.
04-02-2021 03:09:53 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: That is long running then
04-02-2021 03:09:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: still running.
04-02-2021 03:10:02 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Hmm, sounds intresting
04-02-2021 03:10:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: lots of stuff currently missing due to various hosting changes.
04-02-2021 03:10:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: Also why I watched PMMM.
04-02-2021 03:10:16 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Ah
04-02-2021 03:10:18 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Neat
04-02-2021 03:10:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: I trust that guy's reviews.
04-02-2021 03:10:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@rdom-9t0pk7su0fpid07lc28cugvil.ipv9.telus.net: watched it and hit the finish saying how good it was and how it challenged him as both a viewer and a reviewer.
04-02-2021 03:11:16 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Cool.
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04-02-2021 03:11:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: sy sy sy
04-02-2021 03:12:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: er er er
04-02-2021 03:13:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Exquisite Rotations Eternally Recur Everywhere, Ralph.
04-02-2021 03:13:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I tried to get into a game of remastest but didn't manage to
04-02-2021 03:13:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Aw
04-02-2021 03:14:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: I found out that they've made a hack for pirated copies of PTDE, so anyone can play Remastest multiplayer, for free.
04-02-2021 03:14:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: But only with other people who use the hack.
04-02-2021 03:16:01 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Neat.
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04-02-2021 03:24:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: So fun fact: all weapons have the same carry animation in the left hand, even if that would be highly impractical.  You hold Zweihanders the same as daggers, in the left hand.  Only lighter right hand weapons are held that way.
04-02-2021 03:24:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Estocs, bastard swords, and balder side swords are all the same length, and visually look *very* similar.  The estoc and BSS in fact look just identical.  This is despite them all having TOTALLY different damage and animations.
04-02-2021 03:24:53 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: intresting
04-02-2021 03:25:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: So I made a dual wield char that has all three of these equiped, with a bastard sword (slow, high damage, can block decently) in the left hand, a BSS (fast-ish, medium damage, versatile) in the right hand, and estocs (fast, somewhat weak but stabby and can parry) in both hands as secondaries.
04-02-2021 03:26:26 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: So is thar a vanilla thing? or just for this mod?
04-02-2021 03:26:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: This is all vanilla actually, but it's much more practical in the mod.
04-02-2021 03:27:01 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: neat
04-02-2021 03:27:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: All of these are *also* short, so this is a bit too vulnerable to backstabs, normally.
04-02-2021 03:27:31 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Intresting
04-02-2021 03:28:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: The nice thing here is if I switch often, my opponent can't really predict what I'll do next.  I have a ridiculous variety of attacks to use, and all my weapons look identical, so it's hard to tell which ones I'm holding,
04-02-2021 03:29:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: eh
04-02-2021 03:29:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: The disadvantage is that I do very crappy damage, since I'm onehanding lights.
04-02-2021 03:29:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: And also have no shield.
04-02-2021 03:29:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it's all "i cast sword" :p
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04-02-2021 03:29:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Yes!
04-02-2021 03:29:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Precisely!
04-02-2021 03:30:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: tiny being ring regen seemed to be very slow, i swapped it for cloranthy
04-02-2021 03:30:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: sorry.
04-02-2021 03:30:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: computer burnt some dust, had to reboot.
04-02-2021 03:30:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Leo still might be good tho
04-02-2021 03:30:24 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Ah
04-02-2021 03:30:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Leo plus long spear (SKS is best) is upsettingly good.
04-02-2021 03:31:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Nothing to do against shields, though.
04-02-2021 03:31:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: I guess use whips?
04-02-2021 03:31:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: leo with avelyn I meant
04-02-2021 03:31:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Avelyn seems a bit bad?
04-02-2021 03:31:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Maybe good for sniping.
04-02-2021 03:32:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Slow reload compared to other crossbows, *and* longer fire animation.
04-02-2021 03:32:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but it's COOL
04-02-2021 03:32:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: And I'm a munchkin.
04-02-2021 03:58:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: oh my god.
04-02-2021 03:58:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: ?
04-02-2021 03:58:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: Chuck got broken by the timing of his movie reviews.
04-02-2021 03:58:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: Did contagion last year.
04-02-2021 03:58:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: did Idocracy right now, after years of delay.
04-02-2021 03:59:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: is now desperately worried what will be going on when Planet of the Apes comes up next.
04-02-2021 03:59:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: was finalizing his script on Jan 6th.
04-02-2021 03:59:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: hah
04-02-2021 03:59:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: What timing.
04-02-2021 03:59:28 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: heh
04-02-2021 04:13:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: I should check when planet of the apes does come up.
04-02-2021 06:13:45 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: god that's insanity, the full version of COD take like a third of the PS5s avliable storage. That's kinda nuts 
04-02-2021 06:14:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah, it's dummy thicc
04-02-2021 06:14:53 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: COD needs to go on a diet, it's too fat.
04-02-2021 06:14:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: nifty.
04-02-2021 06:15:32 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I'm kinda curious how it's so big
04-02-2021 06:15:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: textures.
04-02-2021 06:15:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: it's always textures.
04-02-2021 06:15:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yup
04-02-2021 06:16:09 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: There are a lot of very fancy textures in the game I'll give them that.
04-02-2021 06:17:21 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: So are there no cross play restrictions on like XBOX and Playstation games anymore?
04-02-2021 06:18:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: oh man.
04-02-2021 06:18:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: so console FPS players can go up against mouse users?
04-02-2021 06:18:54 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I really hope not.
04-02-2021 06:19:16 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I like not dying endlessly to people with an actualy prescicise aiming
04-02-2021 06:19:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
04-02-2021 06:19:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Attach a mouse to your console.
04-02-2021 06:19:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yessss
04-02-2021 06:20:30 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I've always wondered if you could make a more prescise aiming stick thats essentially just a mouse that doesnt look stupid.
04-02-2021 06:20:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: I recall reading about how there was a similar problem for some PvP mobile games.  Except, people were using *controllers*.
04-02-2021 06:20:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: And mice sometimes, too.
04-02-2021 06:20:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Because touch screens are just the worst.
04-02-2021 06:21:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yes
04-02-2021 06:21:33 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Yeah touch screens are kinda terrible for most games.
04-02-2021 06:21:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: MJ, I think that'd be difficult.  Mice aren't just precise, they've got a lot of travel room.
04-02-2021 06:21:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: Oh yes.
04-02-2021 06:21:36 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Convient though
04-02-2021 06:21:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Basically you can make arm movements and wrist movements.
04-02-2021 06:21:53 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: True
04-02-2021 06:21:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: better aiming devices than a mouse have been tried.
04-02-2021 06:22:02 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Oh?
04-02-2021 06:22:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: There really aren't any, although there are still trackball fanatics.
04-02-2021 06:22:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Guns!
04-02-2021 06:22:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: mice are quicker than guns.
04-02-2021 06:22:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: ;-p
04-02-2021 06:22:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: I've used trackballs.  They're terrible.
04-02-2021 06:22:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: > doubt
04-02-2021 06:22:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: Agreed, but there are mad lads.
04-02-2021 06:23:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: nah, if you built something where you have a mouse controlling a robotic arm holding a rifle rather than holding it yourself, you'd probably win all the firefights
04-02-2021 06:23:29 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I've tried a trackball once and hated it.
04-02-2021 06:23:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: might as well cheat, then.
04-02-2021 06:23:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: ;-p
04-02-2021 06:23:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: just walk around with mech arms and a little desk attached to your chest
04-02-2021 06:24:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: You know what the people who control killer drones use?
04-02-2021 06:24:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: two joysticks.
04-02-2021 06:24:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Killjoy
04-02-2021 06:25:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: those are missiles
04-02-2021 06:25:17 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Didn't the israleis make a drone that has like a gamepad as a controller?
04-02-2021 06:27:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Didn't *we* do that?
04-02-2021 06:28:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: probably.
04-02-2021 06:28:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: we use literally xbox controllers
04-02-2021 06:29:26 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Maybe it was a tank?
04-02-2021 06:30:41 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a33457596/israeli-carmel-tank-video-games/
04-02-2021 06:30:44 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: It was a tnak
04-02-2021 06:31:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: TAAANK
04-02-2021 06:33:51 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Really considering how tank turrets work game pad does make sense
04-02-2021 06:35:57 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: hmm, fuck I just realized I'm kinda overwriting this project
04-02-2021 06:36:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: ?
04-02-2021 06:36:38 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I have to write a paper on Boeings managmanet style for that managment class I'm taking.
04-02-2021 06:37:29 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: The minimum lenth is half a page and the maximum is a page and a half, so I'm shooting for a page, and I already have a 1/2 page with just the first part, of which there 3 other parts
04-02-2021 06:38:33 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Fucking science writing, I'm broken now I don't know how to not give a ton of details and overexaplin everythign
04-02-2021 06:39:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: magnamanet
04-02-2021 06:40:13 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: You konw I can't spell dev~
04-02-2021 06:43:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: megamagnet
04-02-2021 06:44:26 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Well this is intresting https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a35397511/russia-new-body-armor-stops-50-caliber-bullets/
04-02-2021 06:47:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: And has either poor coverage or is cripplingly heavy, I'm sure...
04-02-2021 06:48:31 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Presumbaly yes
04-02-2021 06:48:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: I like how they just put an anti-tank missile as the first image.
04-02-2021 06:48:53 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I want exo suits to happen sometime damnit.
04-02-2021 06:49:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: heh
04-02-2021 06:50:36 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: the main problem is that you're a technical glitch away from having it break your joints~
04-02-2021 06:51:06 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Yes, but that's why they make surgeons and programmers, to fix the joints and then the bugs~
04-02-2021 06:51:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Yeah, this is just Russia bragging emptily, probably more to their own people than anyone.
04-02-2021 06:51:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: Hmm.
04-02-2021 06:51:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: what's the lightest load you can put in a 50 cal, syv?
04-02-2021 06:52:33 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: HMm, that would be a problem if China invades Taiwan
04-02-2021 06:52:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Dunno, off the top of my head.  I mean, if you make custom loads, there's little stopping you from making a bullet that'll be weaker than pistol rounfs.
04-02-2021 06:53:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: I usually look at Wikipedia for information on various common loads, which isn't ideal.
04-02-2021 06:53:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: mmm
04-02-2021 06:53:23 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I know theres like a .50 that fits in AR.
04-02-2021 06:53:36 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Called like Grendel? Or Bewoulf. One of the two
04-02-2021 06:53:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: It's true that basic AR500 plates, which you can already put in vests, can stop softer 50 cal shots.
04-02-2021 06:53:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Demo Ranch shows that.
04-02-2021 06:53:50 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Maybe the guns called grendel the ammo's beworoulf?
04-02-2021 06:54:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: No, Grendel is a different caliber.
04-02-2021 06:54:06 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Hmm.
04-02-2021 06:54:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: 50 Beowulf is indeed a fifty, but is much weaker and very different.  There's a lot of those.
04-02-2021 06:55:05 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Right.
04-02-2021 06:55:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: 50 AE, 500 SW, 12.7x55, etc
04-02-2021 06:55:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: All waaaaay weaker than 50 BMG.
04-02-2021 06:56:56 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Hmm, I do wonder what happens if China invades TAiwan
04-02-2021 06:57:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: As it happens, Russia uses 12.7x108mm, whereas our 50 BMG is 12.7x99mm.
04-02-2021 06:57:13 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Maybe the resulting nuclear raditon wold fic my spelling~
04-02-2021 06:57:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: ahh, can extract the text from the website.
04-02-2021 06:57:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: https://taskandpurpose.com/military-tech/russia-sotnik-combat-armor-development/
04-02-2021 06:59:04 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Huh, intresting
04-02-2021 07:00:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: I could totally see an exoskeleton that resists 50 BMG, at least in some places.
04-02-2021 07:01:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: basically, that's what the article says.
04-02-2021 07:01:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: But Ratnik isn't a limited thing only for special troops, it's general armament, IIRC.  And exoskeletal armor WOULD NOT be deployable to many troops.
04-02-2021 07:01:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: it estimates that it'd be unreasonably heavy to do that, but possible with enough material.
04-02-2021 07:02:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: also says just that, too.
04-02-2021 07:02:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Huh.
04-02-2021 07:02:22 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Why couldn't you put an exoskeleton on normal troops?
04-02-2021 07:02:26 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Too expensive?
04-02-2021 07:02:42 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'd think a heavy armor powered exoskeleton would be mostly useful for like, swat teams
04-02-2021 07:03:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Ohhh yes.
04-02-2021 07:03:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: limited operation time, but can pretty much not care about things in close quarters if it's thick enough
04-02-2021 07:03:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: They already have that fancy faceshield helmet videogames love, which is basically used for exactly that.
04-02-2021 07:03:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ah yes
04-02-2021 07:04:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: And yes, MJ.  Very expensive.
04-02-2021 07:04:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and also will probably run out of battery or fuel or whatever way too soon for infantry use
04-02-2021 07:04:40 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: They just need to find some daemon metal and stick into some peolpe. Simple
04-02-2021 07:04:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: yeah, I mean, you're talking like 10k for the materials, right?
04-02-2021 07:04:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Russia is also not rich?
04-02-2021 07:05:19 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: They are not 
04-02-2021 07:05:32 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Aren't they like as wealthy as spain right now?
04-02-2021 07:05:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Lots of people, not much money = you want cheap armor and guns
04-02-2021 07:05:48 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I'm actually not sure Russia has that many people anymore
04-02-2021 07:06:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Apparently only 144 million, according to google.
04-02-2021 07:06:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: ...So yeah.
04-02-2021 07:06:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: mass emigration!
04-02-2021 07:06:14 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I guess one too many gulags.
04-02-2021 07:06:19 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: or famines
04-02-2021 07:06:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: more gulags.
04-02-2021 07:06:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: And 1.6 trillion vs our 21.4 trillion GDP.
04-02-2021 07:06:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: So uh
04-02-2021 07:06:37 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: yes.
04-02-2021 07:06:44 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Russia is a weird place
04-02-2021 07:06:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Yeah I don't think Russia is really that big a threat, militaristically.  :P
04-02-2021 07:07:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: And China is shit as far as firearms R&D...
04-02-2021 07:07:37 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: china's not great at most homegrown R&D really
04-02-2021 07:08:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: pretty much, yeah.
04-02-2021 07:08:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: they get stuff and it doesn't work right.
04-02-2021 07:08:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Holy fuck do they have a ton of people, though
04-02-2021 07:08:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: or it's ripped off to the point where their opponents can find all the flaws in it.
04-02-2021 07:08:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: you were mentioning software issues.
04-02-2021 07:08:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: eh, it's not how many you have, it's how many you can lead..
04-02-2021 07:09:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: I mean, if the opposition literally has the source code you're running from, do you think you can find some bugs in it?  ;-p
04-02-2021 07:09:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Yeah, is more China vs NATO if we're comparing them to the USA.
04-02-2021 07:09:36 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Heh, I like how germanys population is recorded as suddenly 10 million people just appeared right at the beginig of the 190's
04-02-2021 07:09:44 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: 1990
04-02-2021 07:09:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: Hmm.
04-02-2021 07:10:00 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: From Germany suddenly stoping being two differnt conteis
04-02-2021 07:10:02 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: countries
04-02-2021 07:10:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Reunification?
04-02-2021 07:10:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Yep
04-02-2021 07:10:07 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: yeah
04-02-2021 07:10:17 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: It just looks funny on the graph
04-02-2021 07:10:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: this drachinifel video on santa cruz really hits home why they brought in USS Robin following that battle.  Mentions poor fighter direction with specifically calling out, "It isn't just lack of experience, it's more fundamental than that."
04-02-2021 07:10:58 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Also it's weird how germany really doesn't have that many peopel but they keep trying to take over Eruope and nearlly succeding
04-02-2021 07:10:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: Brits were the best in the business at fighter direction.
04-02-2021 07:11:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: But yeah, China just copies other country's guns and calls them "Type ##"
04-02-2021 07:11:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: They have some neat stuff, but mostly I just hate it.
04-02-2021 07:11:54 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: But poor France, they had way fewer people then germany or britian but in WWI had just as many soliders.
04-02-2021 07:12:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Fs in chat for France
04-02-2021 07:12:20 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Which is why they just weren't into fighting WWII, they almost literally lost a generation of 20 year olds,
04-02-2021 07:13:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: yeah.
04-02-2021 07:13:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: massive french casulties.
04-02-2021 07:13:40 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I mean look at this fucking chart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France#/media/File:Population2Centuries.jpg
04-02-2021 07:13:52 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: When your causlites are hsowing up in the population chart you have a problem
04-02-2021 07:15:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: oh yes.
04-02-2021 07:15:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: Huh.
04-02-2021 07:15:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: no drop for the napoleonic wars?
04-02-2021 07:15:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: well, ticked up after they ended.
04-02-2021 07:16:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: ..Yeah, it's just overwhelmingly clear why they wanted to borrow Victorious.
04-02-2021 07:16:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: "We need night landing"
04-02-2021 07:17:04 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Victoruous?
04-02-2021 07:17:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: "We need massive improvements in fighter direction."
04-02-2021 07:17:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: USS Robin, aka HMS Victorious.
04-02-2021 07:17:23 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Ah.
04-02-2021 07:17:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: they borred a carrier after the battle of Santa Cruz.
04-02-2021 07:17:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: but both night operations and fighter direction were the speicalites of british carriers..
04-02-2021 07:17:51 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I see.
04-02-2021 07:17:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: fighter direction because of the blitz, and night ops because that was worked up pre-war.
04-02-2021 07:18:04 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Id like to see Drach do a faulkalnds war thing
04-02-2021 07:18:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: mmm
04-02-2021 07:18:59 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I feel like it'd be intresting, and it's the only modern like naval ish war that I can think of.
04-02-2021 07:20:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: later than his usual stuff, but maybe.
04-02-2021 07:31:18 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Yeah, I feel liek it would be intresting
04-02-2021 07:31:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: With his voice, basically anything would be interesting.
04-02-2021 07:31:39 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: It is very soothing
04-02-2021 07:31:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: ASMR?
04-02-2021 07:31:56 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: ?
04-02-2021 07:32:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: Drachinifel has a good voice.
04-02-2021 07:32:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: and no, not really.
04-02-2021 07:32:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: had the robot voices at the start of his channel because apparently he didn't know he had a good voice.
04-02-2021 07:32:34 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Think of my voice but british and it sounds way better syv.
04-02-2021 07:33:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: MJ, think of my voice but British and sounding way better.
04-02-2021 07:33:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: really, just go to any of his videos.
04-02-2021 07:33:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Can you conceive of anything...?
04-02-2021 07:33:16 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: ?
04-02-2021 07:33:24 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I'm not sure I follow.
04-02-2021 07:33:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Pointing out that your explanation is very unhelpful.
04-02-2021 07:34:13 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I mean you know what my voice sounds like, he's british, and his voice is much smoother.
04-02-2021 07:34:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: not that smooth.
04-02-2021 07:35:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: he's moderately deep, like a baritone, and it's steady and unflappable.  He doesn't have a strong accent, but a weak one, and it isn't a smooth crooner voice, but it's more his cadence, tone, and aural emphasis.
04-02-2021 07:35:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: doesn't trip over it and just enough harshness to assist the precision of his scriptwriting.
04-02-2021 07:35:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: it's very good.
04-02-2021 07:36:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: really, any of his videos for two minutes will tell you.
04-02-2021 07:38:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: See, Dev's description is far more useful.
04-02-2021 07:38:36 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I mean yeah, but of course his decsrcption is more useful, I'm terrible at describing things.
04-02-2021 07:38:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: If you just say "except better", it might as well be a flock of a hundred songbirds chirping in a distinctive pattern to emulate human speech.
04-02-2021 07:39:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: like Attenborough, but about ships.
04-02-2021 07:39:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: and quite a bit younger.
04-02-2021 07:47:20 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Hmm, this essay prompt asks for primary stakeholders of Boeing as in groups that are affected by it's succseses and failures and I'm like fuck, I'm not sure I have enough space to list all of those
04-02-2021 07:49:20 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: So do people want to watch overlord this weeeknd?
04-02-2021 07:50:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: I think you've been the only person to express interest in it.
04-02-2021 07:51:18 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I mean I guess?
04-02-2021 07:51:39 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I thought everyone else reaction was sure if other people are also watching it.
04-02-2021 07:52:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: I'm happy enough to watch it.
04-02-2021 07:56:19 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: yay
04-02-2021 07:56:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: That's the same as nobody else expressing interest.  Basically, "Yes, I would like to spend time with my friends, and that movie does not sound unpleasant."
04-02-2021 07:56:34 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I mean yeah?
04-02-2021 07:57:14 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: So is it cool if we watch a movie this weekend then? As I recall we don't have any particular movies picked out right now.
04-02-2021 07:57:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@skco-9x5sq2en0myfr3ahw028csqqe.ipv4.telus.net: sure, happy to watch it.
04-02-2021 07:57:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Nyeh, alright.
04-02-2021 07:58:14 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: Cool.
04-02-2021 07:59:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@axfxbw-013-079-538-50.mycingular.net: Do you have the torrent?
04-02-2021 07:59:48 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: I'll look around for one.
04-02-2021 08:06:43 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: wlep, I'm going to bed.
04-02-2021 08:06:50 < MidJag_!midjag@73.sub-021-175-51.myvzw.com: night
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