26-12-2020 03:14:49 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 26-12-2020 04:42:12 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 26-12-2020 04:59:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: hey syv. 26-12-2020 04:59:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: hey dev. 26-12-2020 04:59:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: How does this night find you? 26-12-2020 04:59:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Hah. 26-12-2020 05:00:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: For how is it that this night finds thou? 26-12-2020 05:00:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ;-p 26-12-2020 05:00:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: nah, doing ok. 26-12-2020 05:00:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: you? 26-12-2020 05:01:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Pretty good, considering. Feeling alright. A bit tired. 26-12-2020 05:01:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: found my Revenant character. 26-12-2020 05:01:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Crow ;-p 26-12-2020 05:03:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Aaaand logs are down. Ah well, simple enough link to type. 26-12-2020 05:04:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: whoops. 26-12-2020 05:04:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: A single crow managed to bring down a trained merc? 26-12-2020 05:04:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: A very crappily trained merc, or a very impressive crow? O.o 26-12-2020 05:04:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: crappy merc. 26-12-2020 05:05:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: just amused at how well resident evil infected zombie crows track to my revenant character. ;-p 26-12-2020 05:05:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: could make that headcanon or whatever. 26-12-2020 05:06:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: oh, also, could use some advice. 26-12-2020 05:06:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: what gun would be best for shooting supers? 26-12-2020 05:07:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: 'semblance of life' could easily be translated to zombie virus infection or something. 26-12-2020 05:07:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: oh, and also.. 26-12-2020 05:07:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: in Ariane, I bet the mage's clothing spell can make shoes. 26-12-2020 05:07:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: should do that before fleshhallway. 26-12-2020 05:08:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: (Devastator) what gun would be best for shooting supers? 26-12-2020 05:08:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Like, superheroes? 26-12-2020 05:08:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: yeah. 26-12-2020 05:08:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: but low-grade ones. 26-12-2020 05:09:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: like if you had to fight low end supers. 26-12-2020 05:09:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: That depends a ton on the superhero and what their powers are, and what kinda situation you're in. 26-12-2020 05:09:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: mmm. 26-12-2020 05:09:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Well, where would you start? 26-12-2020 05:10:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I could see the answer being "handgun" (concealable), "sniper rifle" (powerful and good for a surprise hit), or "compact battle rifle" (automatic spray of high caliber rounds from close range). 26-12-2020 05:10:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: mmm. 26-12-2020 05:10:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: concealability isn't a problem. 26-12-2020 05:10:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: but compact battle rifle sounds about right. 26-12-2020 05:10:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: surprise hits aren't also that useful. 26-12-2020 05:11:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Safest bet, I'd say, is a high caliber sniper. Hits if they stand still for a couple seconds, in the required position, and has the best odds of getting through whatever invulnerability they have. 26-12-2020 05:11:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: would that be much better than say a semi-auto shotgun? 26-12-2020 05:11:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Oh yes. 26-12-2020 05:11:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: mmm. 26-12-2020 05:11:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: huge enough the latter won't help? 26-12-2020 05:11:43 -!- MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli has joined #einsteinianroulette 26-12-2020 05:12:10 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Merry Christmas too you Devastator 26-12-2020 05:12:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Ugh, I hate foot-pounds 26-12-2020 05:12:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Heya Jaggers, merry christmas! 26-12-2020 05:12:28 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: and hiya syv, Merry christmas! 26-12-2020 05:12:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: hey jaggers. 26-12-2020 05:13:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Nah though, the battle rifle and a sniper choice would both probably have use. Could you decide on one of each? 26-12-2020 05:13:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: hiya dev 26-12-2020 05:13:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: how be ye? 26-12-2020 05:14:29 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Not bad, had a very pleasant chritmas despite my expectations. 26-12-2020 05:14:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: 4.4 J for a strong shotgun slug, 3.5 J for a .308 26-12-2020 05:14:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Both assuming a long barrel, mind. 26-12-2020 05:15:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: how ye both be? 26-12-2020 05:15:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: doing ok. 26-12-2020 05:15:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I'd strongly prefer an automatic rifle (assuming the user has some training and experience with it). 26-12-2020 05:16:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: yeah. 26-12-2020 05:16:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: If I had to choose one thing myself, though, I'd definitely go with a 50 cal sniper. 26-12-2020 05:16:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: I'll change weapons at the first opportunity, then. 26-12-2020 05:16:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Or a 20mm, really. 26-12-2020 05:16:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: any brand to name? 26-12-2020 05:16:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Barrett is classic and iconic. 26-12-2020 05:17:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: I meant for the battle rifle. 26-12-2020 05:17:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: FAL is classic and iconic. My favorite would likely be shortened SCAR-H. 26-12-2020 05:17:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: created a char in a supers game. Most amusing part of the lot is that the GM took notes on everyone's character.. except mine. ;-p 26-12-2020 05:18:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: If you want something neat and strange, the Russian ASh-12.7 26-12-2020 05:19:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Half the power, and subsonic so it's really even less lethality than that'd imply, but it's an integrally suppressed fifty battle rifle meant for CQB. 26-12-2020 05:19:56 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: The russians always make weird but cool guns 26-12-2020 05:20:03 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Or just AK clones. 26-12-2020 05:20:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: One of the two 26-12-2020 05:20:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: the SCAR-H is probably fine. 26-12-2020 05:20:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: boring is better. 26-12-2020 05:20:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: the goal is to do crazy things, not make it hard for the GM to parse. 26-12-2020 05:21:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: The russians don't make AK clones! They make bleh AKs. 26-12-2020 05:21:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, clones are for people not the russians. 26-12-2020 05:22:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: The Serbians make really good AK clones. 26-12-2020 05:22:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Better than the originals! 26-12-2020 05:22:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: how so? 26-12-2020 05:23:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Higher manufacturing quality and design. Not nearly as cheap, basically. 26-12-2020 05:23:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah 26-12-2020 05:23:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Which, you could argue, means they're worse; the strength of an AK is being dirt cheap. 26-12-2020 05:24:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: that's a strength if you aren't the one firing it. 26-12-2020 05:24:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: But in terms of actual quality, they're better. 26-12-2020 05:24:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: if you have one, that doesn't help. 26-12-2020 05:24:42 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah so like the fins and mosins, were they took a dirt cheap russian gun and made it better quality stuff. 26-12-2020 05:24:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Though I'm unsure about how their stuff (which are better-made versions of old designs) compare to the modern modern AKs like the AK107 and AK12. 26-12-2020 05:24:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Precisely like that, MJ. 26-12-2020 05:26:09 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: neat 26-12-2020 05:26:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: finnish mosins. 26-12-2020 05:27:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: wasn't the PPsH the reverse-version of that process? 26-12-2020 05:27:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Yep! 26-12-2020 05:27:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: WWII was an awesome time for SMGs. 26-12-2020 05:28:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: eveyone wanted them and there were no set models? 26-12-2020 05:28:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: And there was a ton of experimentation and variation! 26-12-2020 05:29:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: mmm. 26-12-2020 05:29:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and there were good ones and cheap ones. 26-12-2020 05:29:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: MP40, Thompson, PPSh, Beretta M38. 26-12-2020 05:30:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: And then yeah, tons of cheaper stamped weapons just made to put things in people's hands, because it turned out SMGs were AWESOME. 26-12-2020 05:30:58 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: SMG 26-12-2020 05:31:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: are pretty awesome 26-12-2020 05:32:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I find it really weird how significant development kinda stopped on them, though. The great majority of SMGs are straight blowback. For... not much reason? 26-12-2020 05:32:28 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I think it's because of the rise in body armor and AR's. 26-12-2020 05:32:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: The MP5 is a pretty old design at this point, and is really quite simple really, it just applies AR tech to SMGs. But... that's not really done much, outside the MP5. 26-12-2020 05:33:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Which is despite the MP5 having huge dominance and being crazy popular, precisely because of doing this. 26-12-2020 05:33:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: isn't it still like really good? 26-12-2020 05:33:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: It is. 26-12-2020 05:33:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: But it's really just a miniaturized G3. 26-12-2020 05:34:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: And the MP7 is a lot like a mini G36. 26-12-2020 05:34:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: hmm. 26-12-2020 05:34:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and you would suggest them for the magical girls.. 26-12-2020 05:34:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: But everyone else making SMGs based on ARs are really just making subcompact ARs that are really small. 26-12-2020 05:36:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: not making SMGs that are based on AR tech? 26-12-2020 05:36:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: what's the difference? 26-12-2020 05:37:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I've generally recommended the Vikhr for magical girls, which is basically in the "subcompact AR" category. Though really it's just weird, since it's in a caliber that doesn't really fall into any normal categories. 26-12-2020 05:37:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: They're still guns chambered in full size intermediate cartridges, rather than pistol cartridges. 26-12-2020 05:37:56 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I just google the Vikhr, what the hell is that caliber? 26-12-2020 05:38:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: 9x39mm! 26-12-2020 05:38:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Same as the VSS and AS Val 26-12-2020 05:38:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So it's subsonic? 26-12-2020 05:39:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: The Vikhr is sorta-kinda the replacment for the latter, but in practice kinda fills in the role of PDW/SMG to the VSS's sniper rifle, and the Val's assault rifle. 26-12-2020 05:39:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Yup! 26-12-2020 05:39:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: so it's the russian's take on the silenced SMG? 26-12-2020 05:39:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Yep! 26-12-2020 05:39:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: except modern? 26-12-2020 05:39:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and weird? 26-12-2020 05:39:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I' 26-12-2020 05:39:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Except better than the usual, because the caliber is intended and designed around the role it's used in. 26-12-2020 05:39:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Which is mostly just not done by anyone. 26-12-2020 05:40:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ve never fully figurred ouut the russians obssesions with silencing rifles. It's russia, no one cares if you shoot someone~ 26-12-2020 05:40:41 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com shrugs 26-12-2020 05:41:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: They make the coolest silenced guns, and I love silenced guns, so I'm happy with it. 26-12-2020 05:41:21 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Fair enough 26-12-2020 05:41:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: speaking of that, did you hear how that opposition leader called up one of the members of the hit team on him and conducted an interview? 26-12-2020 05:42:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: (syv) They're still guns chambered in full size intermediate cartridges, rather than pistol cartridges. 26-12-2020 05:42:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: But yeah, the Mk18 is basically an M4A1 with a 10" barrel, for instance, and is kiiinda basically "big SMG" size, but is still chambered in 5.56x45mm. 26-12-2020 05:42:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I did not, Dev! 26-12-2020 05:42:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: This sounds interesting. 26-12-2020 05:42:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: oh man. 26-12-2020 05:42:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: it was amazing. 26-12-2020 05:43:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I did, and it is maaizng 26-12-2020 05:43:23 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: God damint I can not type todya 26-12-2020 05:43:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Can I have a link? :< 26-12-2020 05:43:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I'm not even drunk. 26-12-2020 05:44:03 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com headpats MJ 26-12-2020 05:44:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Don't worry, I can still understand you fine. 26-12-2020 05:44:59 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: indeed 26-12-2020 05:45:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2020/12/21/if-it-hadnt-been-for-the-prompt-work-of-the-medics-fsb-officer-inadvertently-confesses-murder-plot-to-navalny/ 26-12-2020 05:47:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: that includes both full transcripts and recordings. 26-12-2020 05:47:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It's kinda weird that they go to that much troubel to kill the guy and then have that shitty of insosex 26-12-2020 05:47:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ^infosec 26-12-2020 05:48:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: They don't care if everyone knows who did it. 26-12-2020 05:48:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: part of the point is so other targets fear to be killed. 26-12-2020 05:48:12 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That type of typo is going to get me into trouble one of these days 26-12-2020 05:48:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: so it's not necessary to be 100% secret. 26-12-2020 05:48:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But still this is kinda excessive. 26-12-2020 05:48:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Just be sloppy, lie about it, and the other dissidents are scared. 26-12-2020 05:48:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Yes, this was a fuckup. 26-12-2020 05:49:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: shows that Navalany knows his shit, though. 26-12-2020 05:49:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: not a win for putin, that one. 26-12-2020 05:49:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Like I agree with the sloppy but there's a difference between sloppy and detailing your entire operation and it's practices in an confession to the guy you just tried to kill whil thinking it's your superior officer. 26-12-2020 05:49:52 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And indeed 26-12-2020 05:50:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: sadly, a functional CIA would have the duped guy extracted already. 26-12-2020 05:50:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Eh? 26-12-2020 05:50:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: extracted and flipped as a trainer. 26-12-2020 05:50:42 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Oh right. 26-12-2020 05:50:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: the duped guy. He's dead. 26-12-2020 05:50:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Right yeah. 26-12-2020 05:50:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Wow. 26-12-2020 05:50:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Just wow. 26-12-2020 05:50:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, not yet, but.. yeah. 26-12-2020 05:51:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and yeah. 26-12-2020 05:51:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: astounding. 26-12-2020 05:51:30 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Sorry brains overhwlemed by just how much food I've consumed today. 26-12-2020 05:51:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Hah. 26-12-2020 05:51:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: MJ: infosex 26-12-2020 05:52:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: anyway, it's a blow, and them having to reinvent half their infosec apparatus will probably slow down some other operations. 26-12-2020 05:52:14 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah. 26-12-2020 05:52:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: "I'm an encryption nerd, infosex is my life" 26-12-2020 05:52:21 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh 26-12-2020 05:52:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: not huge, but that's spy wars. Just take a lot of little wins and they add up. 26-12-2020 05:52:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Heh. 26-12-2020 05:52:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: but yeah, wow. 26-12-2020 05:52:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: that's hugely embarassing. 26-12-2020 05:54:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: 'The premise of the call was that Navalny — playing the role of “Maxim Ustinov” — would ask the officers for an oral report on the reasons for the failure of the Navalny poisoning operation.' 26-12-2020 05:54:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: titanium balls, man. 26-12-2020 05:54:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: titanium balls. 26-12-2020 05:54:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It's like a bad movie plot I have to admit 26-12-2020 05:54:58 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: If you showed me this as a script I'd say it's completly unrealistic because no one is that stupid. 26-12-2020 05:55:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Nah, it's totally believable. The right lie to the right person with the right thing backing him up.. the spoofed id, enough knowledge. 26-12-2020 05:55:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Nah, people are more than dumb enough to fall for that. Probably could have gotten even more people. 26-12-2020 05:55:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: True true, but still, god damn. The opposition leader could have a very succsefull carreer as a con artist if the whole leader of russian opposition falls through. 26-12-2020 05:56:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Hah, nah. 26-12-2020 05:56:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: it'll take a lot of effort to resurrect effective Russian opposition. 26-12-2020 05:56:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: but a big step, a huge step.. 26-12-2020 05:56:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah 26-12-2020 05:56:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: well, it's hard to underestimate this. 26-12-2020 05:56:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: but about 10-15% of all russians would back someone else 'if there was another leader' 26-12-2020 05:57:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: 2020's been a weird years thats for sure. 26-12-2020 05:57:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Any single mainline prominent leader could do that, if sufficiently famous and competent enough. 26-12-2020 05:57:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: in addition to the actual effective opposition numbers of about that same amount. 26-12-2020 05:58:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: so another couple moves and he'll be swinging 25-30% support. 26-12-2020 05:59:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: which wouldn't oust Putin, but it would be incredibly distracting and force a ton of money to be spent domestically. 26-12-2020 06:00:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ousting putin would take somewhere in the 60% range, which isn't achievable currently. Need to remake the russian media environment to do that. 26-12-2020 06:00:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Also it would just be pretty funny to see. 26-12-2020 06:00:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: it'd be amusing, yeah. 26-12-2020 06:04:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: This really is amazing. 26-12-2020 06:04:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Reading through that article. 26-12-2020 06:09:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, good stuff. 26-12-2020 06:09:30 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Really it would have only been better if he got him to give him like his username password and credit card infromatoin just to further the cold caller scammer stereotype~ 26-12-2020 06:10:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: pay for the DHL shipment of a defunct washing machine. 26-12-2020 06:16:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh 26-12-2020 06:16:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: That guy had to stop because it was getting too professional. 26-12-2020 06:17:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: some of the people working with him got into recovery of large quantities of credit cards. 26-12-2020 06:17:09 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Convinced him the warrrenty on his car neeeded reneweel in the form of gift cards~ 26-12-2020 06:17:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: oh man. 26-12-2020 06:17:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: but don't scam people for money. 26-12-2020 06:18:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I love this Navalny guy. He really does know his shit. 26-12-2020 06:19:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Really perfectly keeping some pressure on, while also working with the guy and being on his side. 26-12-2020 06:19:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah it's impressive. 26-12-2020 06:19:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It's like hey this is urgent, but I understand it's not your fault and we're all just doing our job, pretty genius. 26-12-2020 06:20:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: to be fair, he's probably worked with burecrats before. 26-12-2020 06:20:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and quite possibly FSB agents. 26-12-2020 06:20:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: but yes, it was well done. 26-12-2020 06:21:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: The weird part to me is that guy who got duped is supposed to be an expert on like toxins and just doesnt seem to give many specific details and such. 26-12-2020 06:21:19 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Just weird. 26-12-2020 06:21:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: he's a cleanup guy it seemed. 26-12-2020 06:21:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: gave details on his portion of the job. 26-12-2020 06:22:24 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Right, but he didn't go into details about the cleanup, just menitoned solutiosn and such. 26-12-2020 06:22:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: yeah 26-12-2020 06:22:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Though I guess he would expect a burecreat to not know or care about the specifics so I could see why he wouldn't go into the specifics. 26-12-2020 06:25:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah, I imagine that's the case. He also seemed scared to me; the less details he gives, the less likely someone later can catch him and say "A-ha! You failed protocol by doing X!" 26-12-2020 06:25:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: "We, uh, we did the thing. It was done well. No problems, no problems at all!" 26-12-2020 06:26:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: of course he's scared. 26-12-2020 06:26:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: he works for a murder agency. 26-12-2020 06:27:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and his team screwed up. 26-12-2020 06:27:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: screwed up BAD. 26-12-2020 06:27:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: I'd be scared. 26-12-2020 06:28:04 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But god that man plays the role of semi bored burecrat trying to resolve an internal issue before becomes his issue to a T. It's amazing. 26-12-2020 06:29:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And I know this because I talk to a fuckton of those guys. They never have all the right stuff, and they're always only mostly cognizant of things. 26-12-2020 06:29:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And he does it perfectlly. 26-12-2020 06:30:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: oh yes. 26-12-2020 06:30:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: they're also always so happy when someone has everything all lined up. 26-12-2020 06:30:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yes. 26-12-2020 06:32:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: You can also see the point when the guy realizes "It's not going to be me blamed for this!" 26-12-2020 06:32:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yes. 26-12-2020 06:33:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: relaxes quite a lot. 26-12-2020 06:33:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: “K: This is what my superiors have decided, therefore, it is probably correct. The method is a good one. 26-12-2020 06:33:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: M: Well, he remains alive, therefore, it is not that good. Do you understand what I am saying?” 26-12-2020 06:33:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: This is the most perfect excahnge I have to say. 26-12-2020 06:33:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: yes. 26-12-2020 06:34:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: "The job WAS NOT A SUCCESS" 26-12-2020 06:34:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: "GOT IT?" 26-12-2020 06:35:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Man. 26-12-2020 06:36:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and I thought my job was a pain. 26-12-2020 06:36:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ;-p 26-12-2020 06:36:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: (Had a bad week. But that guy may be setting a new low bar.) 26-12-2020 06:36:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: as in the worst workweek ever. 26-12-2020 06:37:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Absoltuly. 26-12-2020 06:37:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That is not a good time. 26-12-2020 06:37:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Oh, I love telling the guy you attempted to murder "[You] are meticulous, always cautious." as a way to excuse why you failed to kill him. 26-12-2020 06:38:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I've never figured out why the russians let him leave their own hospital. 26-12-2020 06:38:54 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That's what I don't get. 26-12-2020 06:39:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Surelly they could have just killed him in their own hospital. 26-12-2020 06:39:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: They didn't let him leave. 26-12-2020 06:39:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: he was taken out against their will. 26-12-2020 06:40:04 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That's what I don't understand, I'm still not sure how that happened 26-12-2020 06:40:21 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: They're a dictatorship, Can't they just say no? 26-12-2020 06:40:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: People high up can say no. 26-12-2020 06:40:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: But that no has to go all the way down the line. 26-12-2020 06:42:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Heh, I'm kinda curious if the russian paramedics would be particuarlly good at treating poisinng cases~ 26-12-2020 06:42:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: They were, in this case. 26-12-2020 06:42:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: nah, it looks straightforward. 26-12-2020 06:42:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: First person there with clout was his wife. 26-12-2020 06:43:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: she brought a full on plane full of German doctors. 26-12-2020 06:43:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: the guards caved. 26-12-2020 06:44:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Still seems odd. But eh. 26-12-2020 06:44:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Nah, it makes sense. 26-12-2020 06:44:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: the landing was in Omsk of all places. 26-12-2020 06:44:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I like how he blames the medics. 26-12-2020 06:44:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: "The people trying to save him were too competent!" 26-12-2020 06:44:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah. 26-12-2020 06:44:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Nobody with any degree of power ends up in Omsk. 26-12-2020 06:45:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: "Russian assassination of Russian politician fails because Russian medics are too good." 26-12-2020 06:45:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: It's basically a exile post. 26-12-2020 06:45:19 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah, didn't know that dev 26-12-2020 06:45:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I don't know anything about Omsk. 26-12-2020 06:45:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: It's in the arse-end of nowhere. 26-12-2020 06:46:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Man I hope those medics are good at dissapeeraring before they get dissapeared. 26-12-2020 06:46:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: The russian ones? Not sure. 26-12-2020 06:46:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: usually civvies get shoved out of windows or 'mugged' 26-12-2020 06:46:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: or they got out. 26-12-2020 06:46:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I expect they'd be fine. 26-12-2020 06:46:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Nah, putin's had docs killed before. 26-12-2020 06:47:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Could go either way. 26-12-2020 06:47:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, like those 3 who "fell" out of a window 26-12-2020 06:47:33 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Oh we should watch the death of stalin for a movie night. 26-12-2020 06:47:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It's hilarious. 26-12-2020 06:47:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And the exact type of dark comedy this IRC likes 26-12-2020 06:47:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: They... did what was expected of doctors. And did it competently. They weren't involved in any way. I guess you could argue they should've known thst it was an intentional poisoning, and it's against their country to cure a poisoning by their country... but maaaan that'd be a hard argument to make. 26-12-2020 06:48:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: he killed a few docs for telling the truth about Covid in Russia 26-12-2020 06:48:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: And in the sense of just, like... making anything better? Killing some rando doctors doesn't help much of anything. 26-12-2020 06:48:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: That, I can see. 26-12-2020 06:48:35 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I could see the docs gettting killed. It's Russia. 26-12-2020 06:48:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: no, it doesn't. The goal might be 'don't learn how to treat nerve agent poisonings, because the only people poisoned by nerve agents are enemies of the state.' 26-12-2020 06:49:08 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: TI's not even about killing the right guy it's about making people worried about getting killed. 26-12-2020 06:50:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, I think your right dev, I think the wife just brought a critical mass of doctors to out doctor the russian docs. 26-12-2020 06:50:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Reading up about how he left the hospital 26-12-2020 06:50:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, I mean, the docs would have had no complaints. 26-12-2020 06:51:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and there probably would have only been like two or three guards, maybe. 26-12-2020 06:51:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and you know really good docs are really good at yelling at people. 26-12-2020 06:52:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: The impressive part is mobilizing the docs in time. 26-12-2020 06:52:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: that's very impressive. 26-12-2020 06:52:30 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, and if you have enough of them it turns into more like a battering ram that they'll be obeyed because they're clearlly the ones who know what's going on. 26-12-2020 06:52:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So yeah, I could tottally see it. 26-12-2020 06:52:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, and with two on each guard, and four on the patient, say.. 26-12-2020 06:52:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: that's all they need. 26-12-2020 06:53:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Oh man, I can just imagine having a whole squad of doctors yelling at me. 26-12-2020 06:53:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: so you only need like ten, twelve people. 26-12-2020 06:53:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Plus the aircraft. 26-12-2020 06:53:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: ONE can be awfully domineering. 26-12-2020 06:53:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: plus probably some vehicle. 26-12-2020 06:53:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Twelve could make people believe absurdities. 26-12-2020 06:53:52 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I've had a whole squad of docs yelling at me...granted that was because they were on a fishing trip and they were yelling encouragement to catch a fish, but still, jesus. 26-12-2020 06:54:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It was something. 26-12-2020 06:55:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: indeed. 26-12-2020 06:56:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: You should have seen it when the guide cut his hand. It was like a bunch of pirhannas but with gauze and differing opinions~ 26-12-2020 06:56:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: hah. 26-12-2020 06:57:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: That sounds amazing 26-12-2020 06:58:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Just finished the interview. 26-12-2020 06:58:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: well, off to the bookmarks. 26-12-2020 06:58:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: next to this one. 26-12-2020 06:58:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Jeeez, that was a ride. 26-12-2020 06:58:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/unsuccessful-wwii-plot-fight-japanese-radioactive-foxes-180975932/ 26-12-2020 06:58:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Hahaha 26-12-2020 06:58:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah, that's a good one. 26-12-2020 06:58:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Hey, I showed you that one~ 26-12-2020 06:59:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: yeah. 26-12-2020 07:01:09 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So for a christmas present my dad got a book from 1943 that is a book of WWII pictures, and was essentially like a summation of 1943. 26-12-2020 07:01:12 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It's neat. 26-12-2020 07:01:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: nifty. 26-12-2020 07:02:20 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It's also like, pretty racist I gotta say. 26-12-2020 07:03:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: well, from 1943, while at war with Japan. 26-12-2020 07:03:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ..but yeah. 26-12-2020 07:03:30 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah 26-12-2020 07:03:40 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Really it's not as racist as I expected honestlly 26-12-2020 07:04:04 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But yeah 26-12-2020 07:05:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Reading a bit about Navalny now. 26-12-2020 07:05:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Apparently he's a bit racist, according to the little writeup on Wikipedia. Dunno how good it is in this case. 26-12-2020 07:06:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Honestly by 40's standards would probably have been considered pretty proggesive towards black people. 26-12-2020 07:06:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: I'd be surprised if he isn't. 26-12-2020 07:06:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Very very anti-Putin, of course. Apparently also favors same sex marriage. 26-12-2020 07:06:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: there's a lot of racist as fuck russians. 26-12-2020 07:06:22 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah. 26-12-2020 07:06:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah. 26-12-2020 07:06:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: also a lot of very anti-gay ones. 26-12-2020 07:06:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: favoring same sex marriage is quite unusual. 26-12-2020 07:06:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah. 26-12-2020 07:06:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Yep. Says he's the only political leader who does. 26-12-2020 07:06:55 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Intresting. 26-12-2020 07:07:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I could very easily see nationalistic and racist stances being essentially required to have any shot at influence. 26-12-2020 07:07:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Can't be *too* far from the status quo. 26-12-2020 07:08:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: might be not true and intended to undermine support. ;-p 26-12-2020 07:08:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: but probably not hard to find that out from his mouth. 26-12-2020 07:08:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: most anti-gay people I've known won't ever speak out against it. 26-12-2020 07:08:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: that is, in favor of it. 26-12-2020 07:09:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I don't follow those last two linea. 26-12-2020 07:10:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: most anti-gay people can't bring themselves to act respectfully. 26-12-2020 07:10:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: even if they'd be lying. 26-12-2020 07:10:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: well, if they're hardliner politicians. They always use alternate phrasings and such. 26-12-2020 07:10:52 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Most anti gay people I've met are pretty obvious about it in my experince 26-12-2020 07:11:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Ahh. Yeah. 26-12-2020 07:11:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I also live in the south so like it might be a bit different 26-12-2020 07:12:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I live in a very Repulican area. 26-12-2020 07:13:14 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It's funny, I know a very conserivative guy from miami, I don't know why I find that so funny, I just do. 26-12-2020 07:13:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: And yeah, can't really think of anyone I've met in IRL, whose stance I learned, and who wasn't either "homosexuality is disgusting" or "it's totes fine, whatever." 26-12-2020 07:14:56 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, I'd say most people I've met with one notable exception are pretty blunt about it. 26-12-2020 07:15:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Online, online I'd say it's much more subtle. 26-12-2020 07:15:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah. 26-12-2020 07:15:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Sometimes people go on big anti-gay rants, or big pro-rights rants, but there's waaaay more of a mushy gray zone. 26-12-2020 07:16:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: partly a good thing, really. Don't want to read a rant every time a topic comes up. 26-12-2020 07:16:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: And I've definitely talked to people on the fence. A number of kids now who had clearly anti-gay upbringings, but were also kinda uncertain. Interesting to talk to. 26-12-2020 07:16:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: In my experince most people are more likelly to to do anti abortion rants then anything else. 26-12-2020 07:16:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: In all cases, the "kinda against but not really sure" were from VERY conservative countries. 26-12-2020 07:17:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: mmm. 26-12-2020 07:24:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: oh, also, MJ. 26-12-2020 07:24:47 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: yes? 26-12-2020 07:25:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: if you think up any good strange magic ideas for my next SG, I'd like to hear them. 26-12-2020 07:25:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: this would be one-off powers and such. 26-12-2020 07:25:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJOLGXCk9GE 26-12-2020 07:26:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Sent this to MJ, but Dev, you might like it too. 26-12-2020 07:26:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: welp. 26-12-2020 07:27:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: seems safe. 26-12-2020 07:28:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: like super safe. 26-12-2020 07:28:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: I wonder if someone's done a good video on the SL-1 Incident. 26-12-2020 07:40:58 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: SL-1? 26-12-2020 07:41:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: experimental small-scale reactor. 26-12-2020 07:42:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: pretty serious accident. 26-12-2020 07:43:01 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Oh I think I know this one 26-12-2020 07:51:08 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: well I think I'm going to bed, night 26-12-2020 07:52:24 -!- MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli has left #einsteinianroulette 26-12-2020 07:59:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ugh. 26-12-2020 07:59:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: http://youtu.be/ACuk2TXoNhc 26-12-2020 07:59:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: that's gonna take me a while. 26-12-2020 07:59:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ;-p 26-12-2020 08:00:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: This is yet another "explains speedruns" Youtube that I don't believe I've ever seen before, and uses about this same style. 26-12-2020 08:01:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Also, sounds vaugely like Pannen. 26-12-2020 08:01:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Bismuth predated all the others. 26-12-2020 08:01:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: he's not new. 26-12-2020 08:01:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: don't know if he always made videos, but he's like a really old salt in the community. 26-12-2020 08:03:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, looks like not on the videos. 26-12-2020 08:21:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: hmm, looks like some SL-1 videos. 26-12-2020 08:29:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: https://youtu.be/Q0zT9ARfsT4 26-12-2020 08:29:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: oh man, that brings me back. 26-12-2020 08:33:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: 'health physics' is still an amusing term. 26-12-2020 08:34:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: the video quality is reminding me of my childhood. 26-12-2020 08:34:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: so many movies like that. 26-12-2020 08:47:04 -!- parisbre56[Away]!parisbre56@mvi098390202597.access.hol.gr has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 26-12-2020 08:47:04 -!- Disconnected from server... 26-12-2020 08:47:16 -!- Connected to server... 26-12-2020 08:47:17 -!- parisbre56[Away]!parisbre56@mvi098390202597.access.hol.gr has joined #einsteinianroulette 26-12-2020 08:47:17 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS 26-12-2020 08:47:17 -!- Topic set by syv [Tuesday 29 September 2020, 08:56:47] 26-12-2020 10:34:53 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 26-12-2020 10:35:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: 'lo 26-12-2020 10:36:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yes 26-12-2020 10:59:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Hello~ 26-12-2020 11:00:28 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 26-12-2020 12:42:47 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com has quit [Quit: FuckAT&T] 26-12-2020 16:24:06 -!- ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 26-12-2020 18:50:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ooh. 26-12-2020 18:51:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yesh 26-12-2020 18:56:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Rip and tear! 26-12-2020 18:57:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: rip and tear! 26-12-2020 18:58:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: guts? 26-12-2020 18:58:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: well, with crow-boy it's probably more brains. 26-12-2020 18:58:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: I did have guts in there, but eh. 26-12-2020 18:58:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: but that should be sufficiently detailed orders. 26-12-2020 19:01:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: murder! 26-12-2020 19:01:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: caw 26-12-2020 19:01:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: yeah. 26-12-2020 19:02:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: bird might not get to murder anything else all game, should take advantage of this chance. 26-12-2020 19:02:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: caw caw 26-12-2020 19:02:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I hope tric actually shows up this time 26-12-2020 19:04:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah. 26-12-2020 19:04:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: well, you could probably replace Tric if you wanted to. 26-12-2020 19:04:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: one of the other zombies might have gained enough power to be a PC. 26-12-2020 19:05:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: nah, that requires something which happens before reanimation 26-12-2020 19:05:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: oh ok. 26-12-2020 19:05:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: the souls of zombies have already moved on, and they're driven by something else 26-12-2020 19:05:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: necromancy. 26-12-2020 19:05:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: or something? 26-12-2020 19:05:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: mmm. 26-12-2020 19:05:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: oh, one question. 26-12-2020 19:06:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: can that clothes spell in Ariane's make shoes? 26-12-2020 19:06:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: I'd be willing to go on if it does. 26-12-2020 19:06:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you have to consiously or subconciously decide to stay 26-12-2020 19:06:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it should, yeah 26-12-2020 19:06:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ahh 26-12-2020 19:06:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: mmm, yeah, should do that then. 26-12-2020 19:06:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: having shoes would be a big help in fleshhalls. 26-12-2020 19:07:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: they'd be kind of more like galoshes than shoes 26-12-2020 19:07:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that substance is basically plastic 26-12-2020 19:07:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also you couldn't wander away from Mel without them dissipating 26-12-2020 19:08:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: I'm fine with galoshes. 26-12-2020 19:08:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and good to remember that. 26-12-2020 19:11:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: she's a catgirl, but not Katia, so shoes shouldn't be optional. 26-12-2020 19:12:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I think you have socks in your bag 26-12-2020 19:12:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you said to put them on, once. but that order was "after we wake up", so... 26-12-2020 19:14:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ahh. 26-12-2020 19:14:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: I'm pro-socks. 26-12-2020 19:14:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: can we just have them on? 26-12-2020 19:15:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I mean, you can put them on... 26-12-2020 19:15:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ok. 26-12-2020 20:22:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/26/europe/pompeii-shop-archaeology-intl/index.html 26-12-2020 21:37:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: ok, I'll put wear socks into the orders. 26-12-2020 21:40:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: because sucks. 26-12-2020 21:40:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: socks. 26-12-2020 22:55:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: updated for Trence. 26-12-2020 22:55:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: he continues his amazing abilities at sneaking. 26-12-2020 22:56:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@eiyg-5m9bn9tw1jsoolt3ya2i4zjmg.ipv6.telus.net: and the drama dice have returned.