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17-12-2020 04:21:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: phew.
17-12-2020 04:21:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: I meant screwed in any future attempts to communicate, contact, encounter, etcetera, Piecewise_also.
17-12-2020 04:21:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: ie, 'there are no more angels, now.'
17-12-2020 04:21:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: kind of thing.
17-12-2020 04:22:25 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Well, she's dead so talking to her is never really gonna happen. You're basically just shaking worms from the corpse when you did that
17-12-2020 04:23:10 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Don't think of her as a god
17-12-2020 04:23:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: I'm just not sure what the difference between 'living' and 'dead' is, since there seem to be a lot more things than that.
17-12-2020 04:24:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: 'extra dead'  'double dead'  'sort of dead'  and if their things can be traded around..
17-12-2020 04:25:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: still, I suppose that's relatively good news.
17-12-2020 04:25:22 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: If Radio posted his interactions with that goddess it would probably be clearer but eh
17-12-2020 04:25:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: yeah, I mean, that looked like communication.
17-12-2020 04:26:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: but there was a tool involved too.
17-12-2020 04:26:50 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: She wasn't dead though
17-12-2020 04:27:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: The one in the lead thing looked dead.
17-12-2020 04:27:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: was that one alive?
17-12-2020 04:28:00 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Just barely, long preserved at the last moments of life, but yes
17-12-2020 04:28:14 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: her death is what released that forest
17-12-2020 04:28:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: gj then, RC, two reasons to go after them, if Saeko knew that.
17-12-2020 04:29:23 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: *shrug* she was ok with it
17-12-2020 04:29:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: I could see that, but.. eh.
17-12-2020 04:30:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: oh well, poking around with stuff you don't understand is more offensive that way, anyway.
17-12-2020 04:30:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: and going to be doing plenty of that.
17-12-2020 04:30:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: still, kinda :-( to know that I can't talk to a memory of Sky or something like that.
17-12-2020 04:30:56 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: You could find memories of her
17-12-2020 04:31:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: when a dead god can release thousands of tons of angels or create massive jungles.
17-12-2020 04:31:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: but can't have a conversation with a memory..
17-12-2020 04:31:28 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Dead gods have all their power, none of their...them
17-12-2020 04:31:34 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: they are forces, not people anymore
17-12-2020 04:31:57 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: You could speak to Poseidon, but not a tidal wave. 
17-12-2020 04:32:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: still :-(
17-12-2020 04:32:22 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: There are ways to interact with what she was. Just not straight forward as invoking her
17-12-2020 04:32:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: Can't get a good blessing if all that's possible is stealing domains, either.
17-12-2020 04:32:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: yeah, maybe.
17-12-2020 04:33:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: eh, I'll do a few things, look at the stars in the sky, but yeah, that doesn't seem likely to happen like that.
17-12-2020 04:33:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: not your fault, just not my kind of thing.
17-12-2020 04:33:48 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: There is of course that one...other god up there
17-12-2020 04:34:05 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Well a few actually but if we're talking big boys
17-12-2020 04:34:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: well, there's the Sun.  Don't see any other gods around.
17-12-2020 04:35:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: mechanist hive seems to be something different.
17-12-2020 04:36:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: mmm, if all that's available are domains, maybe I should skip the blessing.  Don't want to accidently do that.
17-12-2020 04:36:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: ..but then again, IC, nothing is known about that.
17-12-2020 04:36:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: ..so I'll just try my idea and what happens happens.
17-12-2020 04:37:36 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Yeah was talking about the sun
17-12-2020 04:37:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: ahh.
17-12-2020 04:38:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: well, encountering the sun will hopefully be deliberate.
17-12-2020 04:38:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: no idea where to begin with that.
17-12-2020 04:38:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: which is the most annoying thing about having no communication, it'd be nice to not be completely blind.
17-12-2020 04:38:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: but only living god known about is Telcal, and Telcal's not an option.
17-12-2020 04:39:30 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: You could try one of the stars. They're kind of capricious but might be willing. 
17-12-2020 04:39:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: again, though, saeko has no IC knowledge that there are any other living gods, so no reasont to pursue that.
17-12-2020 04:39:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: mmm.
17-12-2020 04:39:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: can she tell they're not just bright lights?
17-12-2020 04:39:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: with her supervision?
17-12-2020 04:40:05 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: If you fly out towards them they'll get bigger pretty fast. 
17-12-2020 04:40:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: mmm, well, they'll probably be after trying to fight the hive, and then after trying the contact Sky idea in a different manner, then.
17-12-2020 04:40:50 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: they're physical things hanging around up there, so you'd probably notice if you fly around much
17-12-2020 04:41:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: you want a run down on what to try next?
17-12-2020 04:41:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: ie, what the second go for sky will be?
17-12-2020 04:41:30 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: You want me to poo poo it if it won't work?
17-12-2020 04:42:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: yeah.  I'll still try it, but it might be nice.
17-12-2020 04:42:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: won't worry about dotting all the is.
17-12-2020 04:42:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: crossing all the ts.
17-12-2020 04:42:31 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: I can at least give you a nudge if nothing else so sure
17-12-2020 04:48:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: ooh, new Prequel update.
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17-12-2020 17:18:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: so any answers?  Piecewise_also?
17-12-2020 17:41:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: https://loweringthebar.net/2020/12/man-ordered-to-stop-doing-autopsies-because-hes-not-like-a-doctor-or-anything.html
17-12-2020 17:42:57 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: yeah he was involved in the micheal brown case and the floyd case too
17-12-2020 17:43:07 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: if its the guy I'm thikning of
17-12-2020 17:43:47 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Brown by the look of it
17-12-2020 17:44:08 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: They used him when all the forensic evidence was against their claims of his innocence 
17-12-2020 17:44:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: seems an odd scam.
17-12-2020 17:44:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: or does the guy just like cutting up bodies?
17-12-2020 17:45:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: or does he not actually bother with that part of it?
17-12-2020 17:46:13 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: I assume its just a money thing. People come to you asking for proof their gangbanger son was murdered unlawfully by the cops, you read the official report, spin some vagaries and lies and collect a tidy sum. 
17-12-2020 17:46:37 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: because thats basically all he seemed to do
17-12-2020 17:46:54 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: just sort of take the official statement and undermine it in a pretty meaningless way
17-12-2020 17:47:21 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: or in a subjective way thats basically impossible to argue
17-12-2020 17:47:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: Hmm.
17-12-2020 17:48:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: indictment says 375 clients.
17-12-2020 17:48:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: and usually just took money for nothing.
17-12-2020 17:49:14 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: See for instance the Floyd case where the official autopsy reported on all the mitigating factors like his heart disease and drug intoxication and ruled that the restraint likely contributed but was not solely responsible. The "independent" autopsy decided to not look into any pathology and just make the assertion that, despite being unable to pathologically determine if the restraint caused death, insist 
17-12-2020 17:49:14 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: that it did. 
17-12-2020 17:49:47 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: So not technically lying, but also incomplete and subjective
17-12-2020 17:49:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: Kinda did.  Hard to recieve medical treatment for your heart disorder when someone's kneeling on your neck.
17-12-2020 17:50:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: insisting that had nothing to do with it is just as absurd.
17-12-2020 17:50:18 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Unfortunately 
17-12-2020 17:50:46 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: 1. Its a technique taught to them and is protocol so them following it should be the department's issue, not theirs
17-12-2020 17:51:14 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: 2. He asked to be laid down and repeatedly said "I cannot breathe" for minutes before  he was restrained
17-12-2020 17:51:41 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: 3. This hold has been used without harm before, indicating that it was something extra in the situation that lead to fatal results
17-12-2020 17:51:55 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Hence the report of "Contributed" 
17-12-2020 17:52:14 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: the question of how much, and the culpability of the people is the question
17-12-2020 17:53:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: Mmm.
17-12-2020 17:53:45 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: He had major heart blockage, was on an overdose of fentanyl, and sick with covid of all things so he wasn't exactly in good shape
17-12-2020 17:54:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: I'm imagining what you'd be charged with if you strapped someone to a chair to interrogate them, and then the person died accidently.
17-12-2020 17:54:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: "But we've done this before, and people haven't died of it."
17-12-2020 17:54:20 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Depends why they died
17-12-2020 17:54:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: I suspect it'll be felony murder at the very least.
17-12-2020 17:54:58 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: I suspect they'll be acquitted 
17-12-2020 17:55:08 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: because the prosecutors are overreaching morons
17-12-2020 17:55:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: eh.
17-12-2020 17:55:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: cops going to jail for killing people unneccessarily almost never happens in any case.
17-12-2020 17:55:42 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Thats actually not true but go off
17-12-2020 17:56:23 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: In any case, they should have charged him with manslaughter or third degree if they wanted to have a chance
17-12-2020 17:56:49 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: they charged him with second, which now means they have a massively higher burden of proof
17-12-2020 17:56:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: hmm.
17-12-2020 17:57:36 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Because second implies he intentionally chose to kill floyd as opposed to just doing it accidently or behaving in a reckless why he was aware could cause death
17-12-2020 17:58:24 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Third or manslaughter they can basically just play the tape
17-12-2020 17:58:45 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: But second...they have to somehow convince the jury of what he was thinking
17-12-2020 17:59:23 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Cause he ain't gonna confess to it and he wasn't shouting "Imma kill this guy!"
17-12-2020 17:59:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: Dunno man, wasn't the next big case that came up support my position?
17-12-2020 17:59:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: and yeah, you're right about the second and third degree thing.
17-12-2020 17:59:54 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: which position and which "Big case"?
17-12-2020 18:00:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: that woman who got shot in that raid in Kentucky.
17-12-2020 18:00:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: that usually prosecutors have limitations on bringing cases against police officers.
17-12-2020 18:00:45 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: The one they lied about being asleep?
17-12-2020 18:01:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: also the one where the grand jury was prohibited from bringing any major charges..
17-12-2020 18:01:46 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Ok do you actually know the full story for that?
17-12-2020 18:01:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: It's complicated.
17-12-2020 18:02:55 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: She and her boyfriend were standing in a hall, and her boyfriend shot at cops first, potentially fatally wounding one of them. They returned fire and she was hit. The guy being charged in that case was charged because they considered he fired too erratically and potentially endangered others 
17-12-2020 18:03:26 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Also her boyfriend claimed she was the one shooting at them while they were taking him into custody 
17-12-2020 18:03:32 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Which is on camera
17-12-2020 18:04:04 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: It was also the right house, not a no knock warrant, and they announced themselves
17-12-2020 18:04:20 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Which are some pervasive myths floating around about it
17-12-2020 18:04:47 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: So yes, she was killed in the cross fire
17-12-2020 18:05:15 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: but was also standing directly next to an active shooter in a dark hall
17-12-2020 18:06:19 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: It sucks, but its also not what they often depict it as
17-12-2020 18:06:34 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: ie a police death squad rolling in and shooting her in her sleep
17-12-2020 18:06:44 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: in the wrong house, without knocking
17-12-2020 18:07:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: hmm.
17-12-2020 18:07:21 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: But serious though there's a databank of police shootings the washington post keeps
17-12-2020 18:07:43 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: when this first started being a thing I went and looked up the "Unarmed fatal shootings of african americans"
17-12-2020 18:07:52 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: because I wanted to follow up on those cases
17-12-2020 18:09:00 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Not every cop involved was jailed, but there was a fair amount of legal repercussions for them. 
17-12-2020 18:09:16 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: And of course not every instance was cut and dry, like the one above
17-12-2020 18:09:42 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: the actual "Cop mows down black man for no reason" instance is pretty damn rare
17-12-2020 18:09:54 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Happens, don't get me wrong
17-12-2020 18:10:50 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: But even if we assume all unarmed killings are unlawful, thats still about a 1 in 3 million chance of happening to any african american in america, statistically
17-12-2020 18:11:24 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Which is lower than the rate at which they die of constipation, falling out of bed, and having tvs crush them
17-12-2020 18:11:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: I'd be more sympathetic if it didn't read a rant from an ex-police officer whining about how near the end of his career how he was expected to provide actual evidence to a court instead of just his word, and then stating that everyone lies, so he should be allowed to too.
17-12-2020 18:11:52 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Oh I'm not a shill for cops, believe me
17-12-2020 18:12:00 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: justice system has some MAJOR fucking problems
17-12-2020 18:13:13 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: A lot of forensic evidence is barely researched, the cops are overused to handle every social incident, mental illness is basically just a crime, body cams need to be universal, for profit prisons ruin the system, prison labor is new slavery
17-12-2020 18:13:17 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Its all there
17-12-2020 18:14:13 < Piecewise_also!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2849:grky:sjpo:qzhh:mzlt:gxsm: Really I'm just focusing in very specifically on particular incidences and on incorrect understandings of the current situation
17-12-2020 18:14:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-0p9hu9ht6dlfppvm054zvhgfu.ipv1.telus.net: mmm, fair point.
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