30-11-2020 00:01:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Man, russian muscle car buyers have absolutely zero respect for safety ratings.
30-11-2020 00:01:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: sounds about right
30-11-2020 00:05:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Yes.
30-11-2020 00:05:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Okay, the premium model came out pretty damn good, so certainly going to build that.
30-11-2020 00:06:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'll have to create a less obnoxious form of this engine in order to make it worth building.
30-11-2020 00:06:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and maybe see how good I can get a low-cost trim varient, maybe the pony market can be done after all.
30-11-2020 00:08:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: well, a 5.6 litre twin carb V8.
30-11-2020 00:08:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and it's 1964, so..
30-11-2020 00:08:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: 341 cubic inches, so, huh.
30-11-2020 00:08:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: seems about right, really.
30-11-2020 00:09:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that kinda is about right for a premium muscle car of the era.
30-11-2020 00:10:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'll make it a little bigger, the premiums can afford it and they seem to like that more.
30-11-2020 00:13:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: found fifty bucks by wrecking the quality of the carbs.
30-11-2020 00:13:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: my god these muscle car buyers are stupid.
30-11-2020 00:14:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: got the engineering well balanced, so now it's just time to polish up the trim.
30-11-2020 00:18:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: now what colour should it be..
30-11-2020 01:01:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: okay, now trying to tune a pony car is even funnier.
30-11-2020 01:01:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: the pony car owner needs rear seats, and wants the worst engine ever.
30-11-2020 01:01:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: ie, the worst at turning size into power ever.
30-11-2020 01:01:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: but can't actually afford all that gasoline.
30-11-2020 01:06:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: 251 pound-feet of torque, though..
30-11-2020 01:06:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: in a 121 HP engine.
30-11-2020 01:09:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yeah, primary concern among those buyers, that is the single bigest factor..
30-11-2020 01:09:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: engine size.
30-11-2020 03:06:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: My car has to have at least 300 HP
30-11-2020 03:06:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: its survived a lot
30-11-2020 03:07:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: heya Piecewise.
30-11-2020 03:07:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: hello
30-11-2020 03:08:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: muscle cars make engines go sad now.  ;-p
30-11-2020 03:08:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: 5.7 litres, 121 HP.  Incredible ratio, that.
30-11-2020 03:08:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: BUT BIG
30-11-2020 03:08:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: ENGINE BIG
30-11-2020 03:08:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: MUST BE STRONG
30-11-2020 03:08:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: MAKE LOUD NOISES
30-11-2020 03:08:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Pretty much, that's what the market is for.
30-11-2020 03:09:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'm going to make a tuned version of it for a GT car, actually.
30-11-2020 03:09:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I forget but there's some neo-muscle car that literally plays engine sounds through the speakers to make people think its more noisy than it is
30-11-2020 03:09:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Aye, there are a lot of real world addons that exist for the sole purpose of making them noisier.
30-11-2020 03:10:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that said, this game does simulate engine sounds.
30-11-2020 03:10:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: you want to hear it?
30-11-2020 03:10:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: what is it, mechanic simulator or something?
30-11-2020 03:11:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: car making game thing
30-11-2020 03:11:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: basically.
30-11-2020 03:11:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: does it really quite credibly.
30-11-2020 03:12:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Stream's up.
30-11-2020 03:16:08 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: wait, are orcs a kind of people we can try talking to?
30-11-2020 03:16:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Dev is on discord
30-11-2020 03:16:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I sees it
30-11-2020 03:17:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Also, make one that sounds like the Beast of Turin 
30-11-2020 03:19:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: 28,353 cc displacement engine
30-11-2020 03:21:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: If you want me to make loud noises, can try that.
30-11-2020 03:21:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'll go do that next, just wanted to do a sane one in comparison.
30-11-2020 03:23:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: need something with a lot of engine space.
30-11-2020 03:26:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Make one that sounds like the devil screaming at you
30-11-2020 03:34:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: That's as loud as I can make it.
30-11-2020 03:37:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: anyway, I should get back to what I was doing, not making one-off loud machines.  ;-p
30-11-2020 03:39:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and by that I mean deleting the ponycar project I was working on for like an hour.
30-11-2020 03:39:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: A car pulled by a pony?
30-11-2020 03:39:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: seems like cheating
30-11-2020 03:39:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: pretty much.
30-11-2020 03:39:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: just a small muscle car.
30-11-2020 03:41:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that said, there were some innovations learned from the other car that I'm going to add to the expensive one.
30-11-2020 03:41:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: car 2: now with cheap
30-11-2020 03:43:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: not much, just squeezed out a big 0.6 points out of the engine.
30-11-2020 03:43:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: nothing that matters.
30-11-2020 03:44:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: well, up to 1.6, but again..
30-11-2020 04:19:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: enough of that.
30-11-2020 06:05:45 -!- MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli has joined #einsteinianroulette
30-11-2020 06:06:46 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Also 5.7 liters for 121HP? That's a terrible ratio dev
30-11-2020 06:16:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Yes, awesome muscle cars.
30-11-2020 06:17:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: mind you, it is 1964
30-11-2020 06:17:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: it seems to be what the game wants.
30-11-2020 06:17:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: If I don't choke it to hell, it's more like 280.
30-11-2020 06:18:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: IIRC, 200 for 1960's isn't awful I don't thihnk
30-11-2020 06:18:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: the actual mainline muscle car gets a hair over 300
30-11-2020 06:20:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I made a version for a car that has mufflers, and it's sort of the opposite of bored and stroked, (the extra engine block size helps make it smoother and quieter), and that version gets 215.
30-11-2020 06:20:14 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Neat
30-11-2020 06:20:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: extremely quiet, that one, really.
30-11-2020 06:21:12 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: oh yeah?
30-11-2020 06:21:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yeah, listed in 31 of whatever units it measures things in.
30-11-2020 06:21:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: also, game simulates engine noises.
30-11-2020 06:21:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: can stream that.
30-11-2020 06:21:59 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Sure
30-11-2020 06:23:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: it's up.
30-11-2020 06:23:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: there's the noise machine.
30-11-2020 06:24:08 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Loud
30-11-2020 06:24:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yeah, rated a 90.8 in artificial units.
30-11-2020 06:24:33 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh
30-11-2020 06:24:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I think the muscle car demographic actually wants it louder.
30-11-2020 06:24:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Probably
30-11-2020 06:25:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: You always want that throaty rorar
30-11-2020 06:25:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: here's the version for the cheap muscle car.
30-11-2020 06:25:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that powerline makes me sad.
30-11-2020 06:25:56 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yes
30-11-2020 06:26:04 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It' decelt loud at least.
30-11-2020 06:26:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: to be fair, all that torque is good off the line.
30-11-2020 06:26:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it spends its energy on making noise
30-11-2020 06:26:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: here's the one for the driver's car.
30-11-2020 06:26:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it's not waste, it's just serving a different function~
30-11-2020 06:26:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh, it's a noise machine clearlly
30-11-2020 06:27:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: much quieter, really.
30-11-2020 06:27:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: oooh, that drivers car is cool sounding
30-11-2020 06:27:24 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Very rich sound.
30-11-2020 06:27:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: This game really puts an impressive amount of effort into simulating engine noises.
30-11-2020 06:27:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Not snarlly but clearlly has some force to it.
30-11-2020 06:27:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Clearlly
30-11-2020 06:28:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: here's the one on my current luxury car.
30-11-2020 06:28:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: right, can't check that this way since the car is under manufacture, ugh.
30-11-2020 06:29:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: mmm
30-11-2020 06:30:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: here's how you can do it.
30-11-2020 06:30:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: although this isn't exact.. this is the same engine + 10 years.
30-11-2020 06:30:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: what do you mean by plus 10 years?
30-11-2020 06:30:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: The calender causes some improvements as time goes on.
30-11-2020 06:30:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: This engine was designed in 1953
30-11-2020 06:30:54 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah
30-11-2020 06:31:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: A facelift recalculates that engine + the modern time.
30-11-2020 06:31:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And very quiet.
30-11-2020 06:31:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: That's the idea, yeah.  The luxury market really wants quiet.
30-11-2020 06:31:21 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: More of a purr.
30-11-2020 06:32:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Here's the one on my initial batch of jalopies.
30-11-2020 06:32:59 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh, sounds like a jalopie
30-11-2020 06:33:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: do note it's twice as loud as the luxury one despite making only 17 HP.
30-11-2020 06:34:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: of course, if price was no restriction, could make it something like that.
30-11-2020 06:34:42 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: 17HP?
30-11-2020 06:34:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Hahaha
30-11-2020 06:34:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: you kid, but I'm still selling that engine.
30-11-2020 06:35:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Fair enough, is this russia?
30-11-2020 06:35:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: see the models marked People Carrier and Van there?
30-11-2020 06:35:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Aye.
30-11-2020 06:35:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: those use those 17 HP engines.
30-11-2020 06:35:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and bring in 17 million a month.
30-11-2020 06:35:40 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
30-11-2020 06:35:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Alright then
30-11-2020 06:35:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yes, but I did sell some premiums to russia.
30-11-2020 06:36:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: not many, but a few.  The new one is under engineering there with that orange bar.
30-11-2020 06:36:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Let me sort out the new cars there first.
30-11-2020 06:36:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: actually, no, they don't use the 17 HP motor anymore.
30-11-2020 06:36:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: they use the new inline 4 that replaced it.
30-11-2020 06:37:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
30-11-2020 06:37:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: That factory's now free.
30-11-2020 06:37:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Neat
30-11-2020 06:37:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: if it's big enough, it'll make those V8s.
30-11-2020 06:37:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'll do the pony car first, since that one will design much quicker than the other two.
30-11-2020 06:38:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: but they might all be choked by the engine, in which case I"ll just synch them all up.
30-11-2020 06:38:10 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I like how your pony car looks like a mustang mixed with a charger
30-11-2020 06:38:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I should paint them.
30-11-2020 06:38:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: ..to be honest, this is a little too pricy.
30-11-2020 06:39:03 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: really?
30-11-2020 06:39:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Yeah, see that 52.4% affordability estimate?
30-11-2020 06:39:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah
30-11-2020 06:39:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: the ponycar market isn't rich people.
30-11-2020 06:39:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: you want better than that.
30-11-2020 06:39:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I should see if I can squeeze out a few more bucks.
30-11-2020 06:40:47 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: this soundtrack isn't bad either
30-11-2020 06:40:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: also, the suspension got mis-tuned a bit at some point.
30-11-2020 06:42:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: there we go, scored another point, and added +0.1 mpg
30-11-2020 06:42:44 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: nice
30-11-2020 06:43:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: there's ten dollars and .4 man hours off, and back at 156.
30-11-2020 06:45:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: taking the radio out is 2.6 points, but that's 71 bucks and 1.9 man hours.
30-11-2020 06:45:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: might be worth it.
30-11-2020 06:45:37 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But is a pony car without a radio worth driving?~
30-11-2020 06:47:10 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So does time always advance in decades?
30-11-2020 06:47:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: removing safety features have it down to 152, but up to 54.1
30-11-2020 06:47:59 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
30-11-2020 06:51:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: it really is just about the noise..
30-11-2020 06:51:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: To make it cheaper or more desirabel?
30-11-2020 06:52:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I mean the market is liking it more as I made that a bit cheaper.
30-11-2020 06:52:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: but only shaved off like 20 bucks off the engine.
30-11-2020 06:53:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: all indirect, too, that was by making it quicker to build.
30-11-2020 06:53:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: but 2.0 man hours is about 26 bucks.
30-11-2020 06:53:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
30-11-2020 06:55:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: sometimes the gains surprise you. destroying the gearbox like that cut 21.7 bucks and 1.2 man hours, and 3.4 months of engineering time.. for 0.1 points of value.
30-11-2020 06:56:19 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: huh, neat
30-11-2020 06:56:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: oop, and sometimes you find a problem.
30-11-2020 06:56:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: rims were too big.
30-11-2020 06:56:40 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: the oddities of the market I suppose~
30-11-2020 06:56:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: look at that score go up.
30-11-2020 06:57:24 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Very cool
30-11-2020 07:00:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: won't give up the power steering, eh?
30-11-2020 07:00:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and yeah, 20 bucks and 1.6 man hours is probably worth two points.
30-11-2020 07:00:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: what was that affordability rating when I started?
30-11-2020 07:01:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: No idea
30-11-2020 07:01:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I think I said it in chat.
30-11-2020 07:01:29 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Devastator
30-11-2020 07:01:29 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, see that 52.4% affordability estimate?
30-11-2020 07:03:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yeah, that's not that much, but 2.6% is like another 100 car sales.
30-11-2020 07:03:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and I think I gained quality points.
30-11-2020 07:04:25 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: neat
30-11-2020 07:09:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: sorry about that, just trying to squeeze the last bit out of the trim work.
30-11-2020 07:09:56 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: NP
30-11-2020 07:09:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: tbh, 158 isn't really that high.  Was hoping for more.
30-11-2020 07:10:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: anyway.. paint time.
30-11-2020 07:11:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I like the red and blue
30-11-2020 07:14:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: mmm, no, need to build one, this is on a small lot.
30-11-2020 07:15:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: this car will not pay for itself.
30-11-2020 07:16:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: see?  781 million to make that factory.
30-11-2020 07:16:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: it'll jack up the car price to try and make that back, but that won't work.
30-11-2020 07:17:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: do note that the car bodies themselves are only 1.3k to make.
30-11-2020 07:17:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and now 945 each.
30-11-2020 07:17:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Ugh, though, so it goes.
30-11-2020 07:17:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: at least I can afford that.
30-11-2020 07:18:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: the 30 point drop there was because it's treating desireability in all regions, not just Russia.
30-11-2020 07:19:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see.
30-11-2020 07:20:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: since this car will take half as long to design as the engine, I'm taking advantage of that to cheapen them a bit more and to learn more about the chassis design.
30-11-2020 07:21:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: now I need to sign off on the engines.
30-11-2020 07:22:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: ..but since it's being used in three cars, I need to finish the other two cars first.
30-11-2020 07:22:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: do note that wasn't 147, but 193.
30-11-2020 07:23:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: There are some elements of this that are really, really good.
30-11-2020 07:24:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
30-11-2020 07:24:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: sorry, just this is a hell of a thing.
30-11-2020 07:24:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: plus this is the GT car.
30-11-2020 07:25:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I like the green
30-11-2020 07:27:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yeah, it's good, isn't it?  I really am astonished by the effort that went into this thing.
30-11-2020 07:27:55 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It's really impressive I gotta say
30-11-2020 07:28:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yeah, I'll do that, it's -2 points, but 191 is hella impressive, and it'll shave two full months of engineering off this.
30-11-2020 07:28:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and 6 hours of guys handmaking leather, basically.
30-11-2020 07:29:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: hell, it scores in the GT Premium market, which are guys with 250k to blow on a car.
30-11-2020 07:31:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: also..
30-11-2020 07:32:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: they put this in here as well, for the hell of it.  ;-p
30-11-2020 07:32:17 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Neat
30-11-2020 07:32:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And I like how it's the Top Gear track
30-11-2020 07:32:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I should get the thing that lets you drive these things.
30-11-2020 07:33:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Beam NG drvie?
30-11-2020 07:33:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I feel like you would enjoy that in genersal
30-11-2020 07:33:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'm not much of a driving game afictionado.
30-11-2020 07:34:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: my skills lie elsewhere.
30-11-2020 07:34:25 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It always struck me as more a sandbox then a driving game
30-11-2020 07:34:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: dammit.
30-11-2020 07:34:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that factory shouldn't be on that project.
30-11-2020 07:34:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: have to go check that.
30-11-2020 07:34:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Mostly to watch softbody physcis cars break into pieces
30-11-2020 07:35:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: well, here's the actual muscle car.
30-11-2020 07:36:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Neat
30-11-2020 07:37:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: sorry for them using the same framework, but I basically made three muscle cars.
30-11-2020 07:37:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: so roughly the same bodies.
30-11-2020 07:38:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Heh, no worse then any other car manufacutrer
30-11-2020 07:40:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: time to do the bad thing.
30-11-2020 07:41:19 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Betray socalist teachings for selling for a an actual profit? :P
30-11-2020 07:41:40 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: hahah
30-11-2020 07:41:54 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Is that a cloth body?
30-11-2020 07:42:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: looks that way.
30-11-2020 07:42:11 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: JEsus
30-11-2020 07:42:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I have no idea why the roof isn't covered by any paint slot.
30-11-2020 07:42:25 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That is very odd
30-11-2020 07:42:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Maybe it's under convertable?
30-11-2020 07:42:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: This isn't a covertible.
30-11-2020 07:42:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: there's a convertible version of this trim, but the car isn't in it.
30-11-2020 07:43:01 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Right but like maybe they place it undert that tab?
30-11-2020 07:43:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: there it is.
30-11-2020 07:44:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: dunno why, this isn't the convertible.
30-11-2020 07:44:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that's the one next to it.
30-11-2020 07:44:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Weird
30-11-2020 07:46:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: steel presses?  I thought that had an aluminum body.
30-11-2020 07:46:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: ugh.
30-11-2020 07:46:59 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see.
30-11-2020 07:47:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yeah, hit the wrong chassis type.
30-11-2020 07:47:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: monocoque takes steel presses too.
30-11-2020 07:47:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: fuck, I'll have to do tweaks.
30-11-2020 07:48:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I ssee
30-11-2020 07:48:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: 15 more build units, ugh.
30-11-2020 07:49:04 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: mmm
30-11-2020 07:50:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I mean, the market can afford it.
30-11-2020 07:51:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh
30-11-2020 07:52:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: right there, but it'll be more than 80 people when the car's done engineering.
30-11-2020 07:53:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: neat
30-11-2020 07:55:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that said, a small 2 factory is still likely too big.
30-11-2020 07:55:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: this'll make two.
30-11-2020 07:56:22 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
30-11-2020 07:59:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: 5.6k for that super luxury body.
30-11-2020 08:00:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that'll make an absolute mint.
30-11-2020 08:00:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: well, 12.8k
30-11-2020 08:00:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: but the market for those is 25k each..
30-11-2020 08:03:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: neat
30-11-2020 08:03:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Yeah.  In future versions it'll let me tell it right now to not make as many of the luxury ones, but it'll do that automatically.
30-11-2020 08:03:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah
30-11-2020 08:05:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: now the big screen, engineering those three V8 engines.
30-11-2020 08:06:19 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ooooooh
30-11-2020 08:06:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I love V8's
30-11-2020 08:06:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: They're just cool enginges.
30-11-2020 08:06:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: heh.
30-11-2020 08:06:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: now, I slowed down the other models a bit because I knew this one was going to take a while, but I forget exactly how much.
30-11-2020 08:06:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: so I'll set this for 72 months.
30-11-2020 08:07:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: cool
30-11-2020 08:07:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: engine factory won't be able to keep up with design, but that was to be expected.
30-11-2020 08:08:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: now all these designs should lose money.
30-11-2020 08:08:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: well, not should, but it's expected.
30-11-2020 08:08:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: huh, the GT is expected to almost make it back.
30-11-2020 08:08:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: damn.
30-11-2020 08:08:52 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
30-11-2020 08:09:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: The America trim of the Project G.  ;-p
30-11-2020 08:10:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I think this is the ponycar.
30-11-2020 08:10:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yeah, expected to lose 200M from that big huge factory.
30-11-2020 08:11:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: just setting the breakeven point a bit later because the price is overcompensating a bit for the huge factory.. I'll bring in more with a more modest price.
30-11-2020 08:12:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: now the premium muscle car.
30-11-2020 08:13:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yeah, about expected these numbers, heh.
30-11-2020 08:13:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: looks like it's assigning a lot of losses to this model.
30-11-2020 08:13:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: it'll do much better than this, but not well.
30-11-2020 08:19:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: looks like those vans are still selling about 2500 a month, and the people movers sell about 800 to various different groups.
30-11-2020 08:19:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: the luxuries and family sport premiums/family sports/GT P and GT models are the remade premium, which is selling well.
30-11-2020 08:20:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: neat
30-11-2020 08:20:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: it's something that the ordinary premium is filling 75% of the available GT market.  It's only something like 90% competitive there instead of 150.
30-11-2020 08:20:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: but it's good, it expands the number of people who know about my cars there.
30-11-2020 08:24:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: sheesh, they sold 1310 of the ponycars.
30-11-2020 08:24:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: losing money hand over fist, but that's paying back the loan, really.
30-11-2020 08:25:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Makes sense
30-11-2020 08:25:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: looks like I don't need it, either.
30-11-2020 08:25:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: okay, that's far enough, just wanted to know if I needed that loan and if they'd be competitive.  Looks like no and yes, and I can start retooling my vans after they're done.
30-11-2020 08:26:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: the overworked engine factory will be fine after the sales slow down of the new cars, so nothing to worry about there.
30-11-2020 08:27:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: the next version of them would be fine, not having to pay for 720 million worth of factory.
30-11-2020 08:27:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and yes, you can sell luxury to russia.  ;-p
30-11-2020 08:27:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: just not at start.  Need to sell vans.
30-11-2020 08:27:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that's what brings in the bucks there.  Vans.
30-11-2020 08:31:04 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Vans?
30-11-2020 08:31:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yes, vans.
30-11-2020 08:31:20 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Well I guess the soviets need something to kidnap people off the streets in~
30-11-2020 08:31:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that whole big delivery market down there was people buying vans.
30-11-2020 08:33:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: boop
30-11-2020 08:33:30 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: beep
30-11-2020 10:13:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: boop
30-11-2020 10:21:56 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I should go otbed
30-11-2020 10:21:58 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: night
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