29-11-2020 00:42:10 -!- Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs has joined #einsteinianroulette
29-11-2020 00:42:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: HONK HONK
29-11-2020 00:42:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Every time I fugging do a test it closes IRC
29-11-2020 00:42:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: what, you horrid clowncubus?
29-11-2020 00:43:00 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Succlown please
29-11-2020 00:43:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Clowncubus was my father
29-11-2020 00:44:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: hey Piecewise.
29-11-2020 00:44:08 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Nothing in particular, just figured I should connect again since some of my players have locked themselves away here and cannot contact me via other means
29-11-2020 00:44:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I meant you're a clown incubus, not a clwon succubus
29-11-2020 00:44:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you brainless skeleton
29-11-2020 00:44:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Inclown then
29-11-2020 00:44:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'd just grumble about imprecise descriptions.  ;-p
29-11-2020 00:44:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: so didn't miss much.
29-11-2020 00:44:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: heya clown.
29-11-2020 00:44:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: stoopid robots
29-11-2020 00:45:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Imprecise description of your pathogen bladder?  Its green, about the size of a basketball, and located between your spleen and small intestine, to the left. 
29-11-2020 00:45:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: hah.
29-11-2020 00:45:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: nah, no worries.
29-11-2020 00:46:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I was trying to come up with a better name for it.
29-11-2020 00:46:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Virus Sac?
29-11-2020 00:46:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: s a c
29-11-2020 00:47:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: or saccule if you wish
29-11-2020 00:47:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Maybe something with like Phagus in the name of it.  ;-p
29-11-2020 00:47:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Whats the name of joint cushions....Bursa I think
29-11-2020 00:47:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Bacteria Bursa
29-11-2020 00:53:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: What are the Ghibli movies you guys have seen?
29-11-2020 00:53:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Spirited away better be on there
29-11-2020 00:54:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: good movies are for scrubs
29-11-2020 00:54:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I think we're on to shows for a bit.
29-11-2020 00:54:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: the last movie had feels.
29-11-2020 00:54:45 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: just asking for later
29-11-2020 00:56:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: we only saw the... I was going to say "the aitships one" but I'm pretty sure that's a theme with ghilbi
29-11-2020 00:56:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Laputa.
29-11-2020 00:57:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: So you guys have not seen any of the other ghibli movies? 
29-11-2020 00:57:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: oof
29-11-2020 00:58:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: we don't watch that many shows..
29-11-2020 00:58:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Whenever you feel like watching a movie again, I really recommend spirited away
29-11-2020 00:59:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: ok
29-11-2020 00:59:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Its considered by many to be the best the studio ever made. 
29-11-2020 01:00:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: huh
29-11-2020 01:00:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I dunno if its my favorite, but its really good
29-11-2020 01:02:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: hmm.
29-11-2020 01:03:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: What show are you guys working through currently?
29-11-2020 01:03:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: psychopass?
29-11-2020 01:11:46 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: next time we watch something we'll be seeing psychopass 2
29-11-2020 01:15:08 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: How was the first season?
29-11-2020 01:16:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I liked it a lot
29-11-2020 01:33:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: It is by the guy who made Madoka
29-11-2020 01:33:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: i kno
29-11-2020 01:33:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Makes sense it would be good
29-11-2020 01:33:31 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: glad ya liked it
29-11-2020 01:33:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: gun make man go boom
29-11-2020 01:34:01 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: see it's efficient because when you kill a guy with this
29-11-2020 01:34:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you don't need a bodybag, just a mop
29-11-2020 01:34:23 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: less collective trauma for people that way
29-11-2020 01:35:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I'm not 100% sure thats how it works
29-11-2020 01:35:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: but I think its worth trying
29-11-2020 01:36:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Man, makes me wish Cop Craft didn't go to crap. That was an interesting show and premise until..like the 5th episode
29-11-2020 01:36:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it sucks as a weapon, but that's just because it's not a weapon for the wielder, it's a tool to turn the wielder into a weapon of the state :)
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29-11-2020 02:05:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: hmm.
29-11-2020 02:05:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: That's a pretty good observation, really.
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29-11-2020 02:11:10 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Oh yeah dev this is the essay I was talking about.
29-11-2020 02:11:12 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/04/open-letter-to-open-minded-progressives/
29-11-2020 02:11:27 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: it's really quite stunning in terms of just sheer insanity
29-11-2020 02:12:50 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Essentialyl the mans argument is that democary is bad and that you have a more succeful goverment with a facist/oligarchial goverment
29-11-2020 02:16:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Probably a lot of that in 'bama.
29-11-2020 02:16:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: FREEEEDOM!  Through eternal subjugation to someone else.
29-11-2020 02:20:30 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Honestlly if you offered to make bama a crhsitian theocarcy...assuming it was the right kind of christian they'd probably take you up on that.
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29-11-2020 02:20:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: So I opened that out of curiousity and read like a paragraph before I noticed how tiny the scroll bar block was.
29-11-2020 02:21:14 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Yeah the spoken version is like ten hours long.
29-11-2020 02:21:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Instead of reading, I copied all of the chapters into one text file.  Mostly with ctrl+A, because selecting just the essay and scrolling was too slow.
29-11-2020 02:21:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: 124k words.
29-11-2020 02:21:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: hey syv.
29-11-2020 02:21:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: hey dev.
29-11-2020 02:22:04 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Yeah that's one essay. There are 14.
29-11-2020 02:22:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: That's not an essay, MJ.
29-11-2020 02:22:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: well, that's what's been busy going on.
29-11-2020 02:22:16 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: I dunno what you call this then.
29-11-2020 02:22:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: running at the mouth?
29-11-2020 02:22:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Do you have the guy's name?
29-11-2020 02:22:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: A badly written novel.
29-11-2020 02:22:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: "Moldbug"
29-11-2020 02:22:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Ok, phew.
29-11-2020 02:23:04 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Aside from I currently can't decide which person I want to slap more, the guy who wrote this or the guy who I'm reading this to better refute.
29-11-2020 02:23:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Curtis Yarvin is his actual name.
29-11-2020 02:23:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: But he chooses to go by Moldbug.
29-11-2020 02:23:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I can't get past that.
29-11-2020 02:23:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Moldbug.
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29-11-2020 02:27:23 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: My favorite thing about this is that he's arguing that China and other facist countreis don't have death camps and allow for personal freedoms.
29-11-2020 02:27:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Pfft.
29-11-2020 02:28:12 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Dammit, windows
29-11-2020 02:28:36 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Hhh
29-11-2020 02:28:46 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Hello, sy
29-11-2020 02:28:51 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Also
29-11-2020 02:29:00 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Hello Devastator and MidJag_
29-11-2020 02:29:09 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: I always kinda figured neo monarchists was an actual joke, not like a thing that certain people actually belive in.
29-11-2020 02:29:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Hello!
29-11-2020 02:29:37 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: hiya ER
29-11-2020 02:29:51 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: There are people who believe in anything,  mj
29-11-2020 02:30:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: (MidJag_) My favorite thing about this is that he's arguing that China and other facist countreis don't have death camps and allow for personal freedoms.
29-11-2020 02:30:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Also, don't forget that he advocates for mass shootings of peaceful protesters.
29-11-2020 02:30:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'm increasingly convinced that the only political movements that don't exist are the ones used as strawmen.  ;-p  (neoliberals)
29-11-2020 02:30:52 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Fuckin libs
29-11-2020 02:31:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: ...can be quite fun.
29-11-2020 02:31:23 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: To be fair his "ideal" is one in which only people who violently protest are shot, but I suppose you have to break a few eggs to make an omlet no?~
29-11-2020 02:32:21 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: You only get to use that phrase if you can spell omelette ~
29-11-2020 02:33:07 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: I'm really not sure I'm continuting to read this, but theres something stunning about a man who's just this crazy
29-11-2020 02:33:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Some people need to interact with others.
29-11-2020 02:33:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and some people are just good at hiding the crazy.
29-11-2020 02:34:07 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: My laptop's borked
29-11-2020 02:34:14 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Send help
29-11-2020 02:37:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Bork Bork
29-11-2020 02:37:20 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: hiya dubs
29-11-2020 02:37:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: yellow
29-11-2020 02:37:29 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Long time no see.
29-11-2020 02:38:05 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Isn't it supposed to reset if you hold down the power button
29-11-2020 02:38:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I'll have you know I've been seeing this whole time
29-11-2020 02:38:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Depends. Sometimes you have to remove the battery
29-11-2020 02:38:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Or hit it with a hammer
29-11-2020 02:39:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: It's supposed to shut off, but not necessarily reset.
29-11-2020 02:39:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: sometimes you have to hold it for a while
29-11-2020 02:39:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: 7-10 seconds
29-11-2020 02:40:01 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Well it's- it's not shutting down, AUGH
29-11-2020 02:40:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: oh, that kind of bork
29-11-2020 02:40:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Remove battery
29-11-2020 02:40:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: and cord
29-11-2020 02:40:40 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: It's also getting fucking hot
29-11-2020 02:40:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: assuming you have one that can remove the battery 
29-11-2020 02:41:38 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Not easily
29-11-2020 02:41:53 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: hey syv how many words is the hobbit again?
29-11-2020 02:42:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Very close to 100k.
29-11-2020 02:42:15 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: 95,022
29-11-2020 02:42:39 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: mmmm, so I'm reading a 350 page book written by a madman.
29-11-2020 02:42:40 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Fun.
29-11-2020 02:43:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Madmen and idiots tend to be very verbose
29-11-2020 02:43:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: remember how huge time cube was
29-11-2020 02:43:29 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Honestlly it's taking longer than it should to read it because it's eye-bleeding poorly written at times.
29-11-2020 02:43:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: time cube was something special.
29-11-2020 02:43:39 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: though every now and then he does have a good line.
29-11-2020 02:43:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I'd love to see an argument between Moldbug and the timecube guy.
29-11-2020 02:43:48 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: The guy who thought cubes have for sides :p
29-11-2020 02:43:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Well, timecube guy is dead
29-11-2020 02:44:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Fine.
29-11-2020 02:44:05 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: F
29-11-2020 02:44:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Maybe they can both die and then argue?
29-11-2020 02:44:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I want to see Moldbug's refutation of Timecube.
29-11-2020 02:44:35 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: In HEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL AHAHAHAAAAA
29-11-2020 02:44:35 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Nah I don't think Moldbug is actually schiphernic, he's just a moron
29-11-2020 02:44:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: "Far right blogger" oh dear
29-11-2020 02:45:03 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: "Dark enlightenment" 
29-11-2020 02:45:25 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Yes. No one can I'm not willing to expose myself to alternative viewpoints
29-11-2020 02:45:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: " American software engineer "
29-11-2020 02:46:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Engineers seem to go nuts like this more often than other people
29-11-2020 02:46:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: The guy who made Temple OS was a software engineer
29-11-2020 02:46:28 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: It's because engineering teaches you that the world makes sense.
29-11-2020 02:46:32 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: And it really doesn't
29-11-2020 02:46:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: And lived like 5 minutes away from me
29-11-2020 02:46:36 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: really?
29-11-2020 02:46:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: ye
29-11-2020 02:46:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: When he lived with his parents at least
29-11-2020 02:46:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: before he lived in a car
29-11-2020 02:46:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Engineers tend to go off the rails the most.
29-11-2020 02:47:00 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Well Temple OS was just an untreated schiophrenizce
29-11-2020 02:47:08 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Which is pretty sad honestlly
29-11-2020 02:47:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: right up there with sci-fi writers.
29-11-2020 02:47:31 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: But yeah engineers do tend to go nuts more than most.
29-11-2020 02:47:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Nah man, he thought the FBI were black people who glowed in the dark
29-11-2020 02:47:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: clearly a prophet 
29-11-2020 02:48:18 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Just gonna leave my laptop unplugged for the night :v
29-11-2020 02:48:20 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: But I geuuinelly think its becasue engineering teaches you that any problem is fixable by using a few simple principles and simplisitic models and then scaling up .
29-11-2020 02:48:54 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Rather than try to unscrew shit and take out the battery when it's super hot
29-11-2020 02:48:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I mean it might be
29-11-2020 02:49:05 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: https://xkcd.com/793/
29-11-2020 02:49:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Though we tend to see some level of it among other highly educated people
29-11-2020 02:49:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: mostly among the older people
29-11-2020 02:50:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: When they start thinkign their knowledge and discipline can be applied universally 
29-11-2020 02:50:08 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: This might interfere with my plans to update the catgirl-in-a-dungeon game tonight >:[
29-11-2020 02:50:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Like when Chompsky suddenly thought he was able to predict stocks and shit
29-11-2020 02:50:46 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Wait what?
29-11-2020 02:50:48 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-03-21
29-11-2020 02:51:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: ER coming in with exactly the comic I was thinking of
29-11-2020 02:51:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: thank you
29-11-2020 02:51:15 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: I've never seen a more accurate comic then that ER.~
29-11-2020 02:51:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: But nah
29-11-2020 02:52:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: chompsky is a hack
29-11-2020 02:52:23 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Or this one. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-03-24
29-11-2020 02:52:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: As hare basically all Theoretical linguists
29-11-2020 02:52:27 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: All it takes is googling "smbc old physicist"
29-11-2020 02:52:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Beef Tensors.
29-11-2020 02:53:19 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Theorical linguists is a strange field.
29-11-2020 02:53:39 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: I had to learn a bit about it for my minor and it was enough to convince me I did not want to learn more about it~
29-11-2020 02:53:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Practical linguistics is interesting
29-11-2020 02:54:23 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: https://xkcd.com/2390/
29-11-2020 02:54:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Hmm.
29-11-2020 02:54:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: with stuff like that I wonder if I'd be more worried I'd decide the field is onto something, or worried that the field may turn into an entire mismash of gibberish.
29-11-2020 02:55:03 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: The difference is that linguists go out into the field and learn about languages and cultures. Theoretical linguists sit at home, read a few papers, and then try to make universal rules or declarations based on them
29-11-2020 02:55:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: ..Yeah.
29-11-2020 02:55:42 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Your not wrong honestlly
29-11-2020 02:55:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: although that is what the mathmaticians do.
29-11-2020 02:55:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: they read stuff and think and plug away at home.
29-11-2020 02:56:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Chomsky's famous one was the idea of a "universal language" that we're all born with and then we just forget parts of to make all the languages on earth. Which is an idea pretty soundly debunked and relatively easily 
29-11-2020 02:56:32 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: As someone who lives with mathematicians, I don't understand them
29-11-2020 02:56:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Hasn't that idea been revisited like a dozen times throughout all of recorded history?
29-11-2020 02:57:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: and always been wrong?
29-11-2020 02:57:11 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: You konw I was reading an intresting article about why you don't ever see garage biologists, and it's becasuse it's very illegal to work on a lot of biology at home, wherease with computers and mathmatatics it's not.
29-11-2020 02:57:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Mathematicians are able to do it a bit better because there are rules and laws they can work with and it doesn't really require going out and making measurements. 
29-11-2020 02:57:46 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: And yes dev is has been.
29-11-2020 02:57:55 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: ^it has
29-11-2020 02:58:50 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: This philospher is stunningly naive. His entire idea is that if you have a complete lack of freedom somehow the guy in charge would never abuse his power to supress personal freedoms.
29-11-2020 02:58:58 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: ^political freedom
29-11-2020 02:59:09 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: ^a complete lack of political freedom
29-11-2020 02:59:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Most political philosophies are very naive 
29-11-2020 02:59:54 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: they kind of forget that people can be shitty, greedy, corrupt, and self centered
29-11-2020 02:59:56 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: But shouldn't they be worldrly since they're philosphers on politicis?
29-11-2020 03:00:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: You'd think
29-11-2020 03:00:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: however, they also tend to be blinded by their own ideas
29-11-2020 03:00:19 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: and thus in theory should have strudied like history or anthropology or sociology or something?
29-11-2020 03:00:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Those involve in theory going places.
29-11-2020 03:02:12 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I mean, basically any "Pure" political theory is hopeless in reality
29-11-2020 03:02:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Communism, capitalism, democracy, socialism, etc
29-11-2020 03:02:35 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Okay finnally fucking halfway through the man finnally bothers to make his point. His cerntreal argument is that since a goverment would be bad at running a burger resutrant therefore a goveremnet run in the style of a buisness would be better
29-11-2020 03:02:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: its why basically every actual government or system is a mix of stuff
29-11-2020 03:02:52 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: And agreed dubs.
29-11-2020 03:03:31 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Does the "invisible hand of the market" come up in there?
29-11-2020 03:03:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Thats a favorite idea of mine, because it exists but it doesn't do what they claim
29-11-2020 03:04:09 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Suprisngly he hasn't mentioend it yet.
29-11-2020 03:04:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: (Piecewise) they kind of forget that people can be shitty, greedy, corrupt, and self centered
29-11-2020 03:04:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: This is rather ironic considering Moldbug appears to hit at least half of these.
29-11-2020 03:04:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: yeah, but like I said they're blinded by their own ideas
29-11-2020 03:04:54 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: my government couldn't POSSIBLY  fail! Everything will go great!
29-11-2020 03:05:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Until it odesn't.
29-11-2020 03:05:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: which is odd.
29-11-2020 03:05:18 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: THe issues that plague the current one, and that could easily plague this one, just won't happen!
29-11-2020 03:05:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: wasn't the birth of what is considered political philosophy supposedly the greek city-states?  Which tended to bounce around randomly between governments?
29-11-2020 03:07:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: (And then collapse)
29-11-2020 03:07:06 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: “Woodrow Wilson himself, of course, had a great deal of undivided power. Nor did he use it responsibly. When we think of sovereign executives, we tend to think of bad examples. We think of Hitler, not of Frederick the Great. We don’t think of Sultan Qaboos or Lee Kuan Yew or Hans-Adam II. If you think this is a coincidence, think again. But perhaps a thought-experiment will help.”
29-11-2020 03:07:07 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Hahahahah This guy is really quite something. "
29-11-2020 03:07:21 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: I like he gives these examples and then neglects why the bad examples are an issue.
29-11-2020 03:07:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I mean, its one of those things
29-11-2020 03:07:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: There's nothing that says a monarchy can't work
29-11-2020 03:08:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: and it can
29-11-2020 03:08:07 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Yeah, except genetics and luck
29-11-2020 03:08:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: but there's nothing that says it can't fail horribly
29-11-2020 03:08:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: and it can
29-11-2020 03:08:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: both have happened
29-11-2020 03:09:10 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Capitalism can produce great stuff, or it can result in banana republics
29-11-2020 03:09:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Imma check out these examples of his
29-11-2020 03:10:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Also odd that he'd consider Frederick the Great an undivided autocrat.
29-11-2020 03:10:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I was going to comment on 'good' but..
29-11-2020 03:10:25 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Like I said the man has some odd examples
29-11-2020 03:10:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: the question of 'held unlimited power' is doubtful.
29-11-2020 03:10:39 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: And a tenuous grasp of history
29-11-2020 03:10:53 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: ...and human devlopment in general.
29-11-2020 03:13:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: While copying the novel into a text file, I skimmed over his footnotes.
29-11-2020 03:13:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I mean, its true that if you have one person wielding total power and authority it can result in a great deal of advancement and work as a whole. But that doesn't mean the quality of living of the people will be better or even good
29-11-2020 03:13:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: At one point while discussing homophobia (which apparently would be a bad idea to get rid of, as it would be harmful to society?) he described himself as a breeder.
29-11-2020 03:14:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Sultan Qaboos is a pretty good example of that actually
29-11-2020 03:14:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: "Despite my breeder tendencies", yes.
29-11-2020 03:16:04 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Okay, this entire section is...just odd. https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/05/ol6-lost-theory-of-government/
29-11-2020 03:16:10 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: I can't properly explain it.
29-11-2020 03:16:19 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Middle section.
29-11-2020 03:19:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: That is way too many words
29-11-2020 03:19:40 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I refuse
29-11-2020 03:19:49 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Fair enough
29-11-2020 03:20:00 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: put this in meme format
29-11-2020 03:20:14 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Brave New World meets Apple
29-11-2020 03:20:37 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: With steve jobs as the benevloent god king
29-11-2020 03:20:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: The grifter?
29-11-2020 03:21:00 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Its always funny how they'll just assume benevolence 
29-11-2020 03:21:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'd take Freddie the Great over a marketeer.
29-11-2020 03:21:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: They always forget fucking Prima Nocta 
29-11-2020 03:21:29 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: He claims that the controllers would remove him if he hurt the bottom line.
29-11-2020 03:21:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: They always think someone else's face will be the one getting eaten off by leopards.
29-11-2020 03:21:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: ..man, that's a guy who doesn't know business either.
29-11-2020 03:22:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: "You can rape as many kids as you want, just don't hurt the sales"
29-11-2020 03:22:28 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: But I'm not entierlly sure how he assumes that jobs couldn't like cajole or threaten the board into beliving in him. Or just make a mistake and concinvce the board to contiune beliving in it.
29-11-2020 03:22:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: This is sounding like those Anarchocapitalist memes
29-11-2020 03:22:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: or bribe the board to screw the investors.
29-11-2020 03:22:54 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: honestly I can't even describe this. It's just bizzare.
29-11-2020 03:22:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: This sounds a lot like the idea of the invisible hand
29-11-2020 03:23:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Ie the idea that market forces will prevent corruption and bad actions
29-11-2020 03:23:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: because the customers won't like them
29-11-2020 03:23:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Which completely forgets several things
29-11-2020 03:23:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: 1. That these actions can be done secretly
29-11-2020 03:23:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: 2. You can always lie.
29-11-2020 03:24:01 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: 3. people don't always have other options.
29-11-2020 03:24:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: 2. That most of the time people only care about getting a good enough product at a low enough price
29-11-2020 03:24:32 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: In this guys thing Calgood is the idea of a coporoate run california "Furthermore, Calgood’s shares are, like any shares, negotiable. They are just financial instruments. If Calgood’s investment managers decide it makes financial sense to sell California and buy Google or Gazprom or GE, they can go right ahead."
29-11-2020 03:24:40 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: 3. If you're a monopoly (or collude with all the others making your product) it doesn't matter what they think
29-11-2020 03:25:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Is he talking about making california publically traded?
29-11-2020 03:25:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I'd like it if they made california another country
29-11-2020 03:26:03 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: so we can build a fricking wall and keep them out
29-11-2020 03:26:15 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: I'm not really sure, because he doesn't describe how the goverments could be traded on a market, but kinda yes
29-11-2020 03:26:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I'mma buy 10 shares of california
29-11-2020 03:26:47 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: He also glosses over that Jobs was crazy enough to ignore very treateble cancer in favor of homopathy for quite some time
29-11-2020 03:26:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: does that mean that you could have a hostile take over?
29-11-2020 03:27:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: presumably.
29-11-2020 03:27:12 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: I guess?
29-11-2020 03:27:13 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: What was job's cancer?
29-11-2020 03:27:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I thought it was pancreatic 
29-11-2020 03:28:08 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Panceratic I think? Been a long time since I read about it. From what I rember they'd caught it exceptionally early and actually had very good odds and he decided to ignore it rather aggresivly treat it until after it had gotten bad
29-11-2020 03:28:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Yeah Pancreatic
29-11-2020 03:28:40 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: And yeah, even if they catch it early, it has a bad prognosis
29-11-2020 03:28:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: they caught my dad's before he had any symptoms
29-11-2020 03:28:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: still killed him
29-11-2020 03:29:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Pancreatic cancer has like a 2% 5 year survival rate
29-11-2020 03:29:20 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: I rember there was something weird about Jobs' though. I dunno I'd have to check. And sorry about your dad.
29-11-2020 03:29:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: O
29-11-2020 03:29:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I'll look into it real fast
29-11-2020 03:30:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Ah
29-11-2020 03:31:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Originated in Islet cells
29-11-2020 03:33:08 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: And that means what for survival?
29-11-2020 03:33:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: lemme see...
29-11-2020 03:34:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: 77% 5 year survival rate it looks like.
29-11-2020 03:35:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Not bad
29-11-2020 03:36:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Prostate, Breast, Skin and testicular all have higher but of course they do
29-11-2020 03:36:49 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Right.
29-11-2020 03:36:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah, all the sexy bits.
29-11-2020 03:37:04 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: That's what I was thinking of. It was pretty survivable IIRc
29-11-2020 03:37:08 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Donate to colon cancer research
29-11-2020 03:37:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Don't need skin, it's only useful for finding mates.
29-11-2020 03:37:21 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: breast cancer has more than enough cash and is really survivable
29-11-2020 03:37:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: "Save the titties!"
29-11-2020 03:37:46 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Save the fucking tits, man
29-11-2020 03:37:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: and skin has such high rates because if its not melanoma you really have to try to die of skin cancer
29-11-2020 03:37:53 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: SAVE THEM
29-11-2020 03:38:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: skin cancer will fucking dig a pot hole into you before it metastasizes 
29-11-2020 03:38:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: you really gotta ignore it hard
29-11-2020 03:39:15 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: and for a long time
29-11-2020 03:40:16 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: My skin is boiling away? This is fine.
29-11-2020 03:40:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-04-24
29-11-2020 03:40:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'm sure some people manage.
29-11-2020 03:40:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I've treated people who said they didn't have cancer
29-11-2020 03:41:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Brother, I'm shooting 12 mega electron volts of gamma rays into your fucking torso, you better hope you have cancer
29-11-2020 03:41:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: cause if you didn't, you probably do now
29-11-2020 03:41:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: mmm.
29-11-2020 03:42:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: just need to put a hyperchondriac next to one of those.  ;-p
29-11-2020 03:42:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: We have those a fair amount
29-11-2020 03:42:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: people who swear they can feel the radiation 
29-11-2020 03:42:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: heh.
29-11-2020 03:42:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: "Ow, it burns!" says the lady while the machine isn't even on
29-11-2020 03:42:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: before you've pushed the button?
29-11-2020 03:43:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Now, if we were hitting your nasal passages or catching the retina then you might have something
29-11-2020 03:43:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: because that can cause flashing lights or the smell of "burning wires"
29-11-2020 03:44:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: but you don't Feel anything
29-11-2020 03:44:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: mmm.
29-11-2020 03:44:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: clearly, you just aren't using ENOUGH RADIATION.
29-11-2020 03:45:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I mean
29-11-2020 03:45:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: there were a few times...
29-11-2020 03:45:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Radiation accidents and such
29-11-2020 03:46:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yeah.
29-11-2020 03:46:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: although..
29-11-2020 03:46:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: From what I know of them, you can easily get hit by enough to kill you a hundred times over without feeling a thing.
29-11-2020 03:47:13 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Depends really
29-11-2020 03:47:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: different kinds of radiation have different "Quality levels" 
29-11-2020 03:47:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: which relate to their biological effectiveness
29-11-2020 03:47:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Alpha is 20 times more damaging than gamma for example
29-11-2020 03:48:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: and it also matters how much of you is being irradiated
29-11-2020 03:49:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I mean, full body you get into 95-100% fatality rate at  6-8 gy
29-11-2020 03:50:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: But if you focus it in, organs and such can take several times that much
29-11-2020 03:51:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: 95-100% fataliry eate with only six guys?  Geez
29-11-2020 03:51:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Gy is short for Grey, a measurement of dose
29-11-2020 03:51:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I know.  :(
29-11-2020 03:52:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: It's a stupid joke.
29-11-2020 03:52:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: sure was~
29-11-2020 03:52:31 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: but I didn't get it which makes me even more stupid
29-11-2020 03:53:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: But yeah, you can easily get fatally dosed and feel nothing, espcially if its fast. 
29-11-2020 03:54:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Though, if you go above a certain dose you'll actually get immediate effects like vomiting, seizures, etc
29-11-2020 03:54:24 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Ideal for suicide, then! :D
29-11-2020 03:54:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Honestly, not really
29-11-2020 03:55:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: you don't feel the initial dose but you won't like the time between it and death
29-11-2020 03:55:50 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: What if we tried more power?
29-11-2020 03:55:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: might do it
29-11-2020 03:56:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that's what they call a microwave oven.
29-11-2020 03:56:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: but nah, one of the worst treatments they do is full body radiation for killing off bone marrow before transplant
29-11-2020 03:56:50 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Oof
29-11-2020 03:57:21 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: yeah, and its often for kids since they have leukemia and such more often. 
29-11-2020 03:57:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: You know, it's really quite impressive that can be done and the recipient survives.
29-11-2020 03:57:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Just think about it, really.
29-11-2020 03:58:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: We can do it because cells have different susceptibilities to radiation. Marrow cells are quite susceptible. 
29-11-2020 03:58:36 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: As are, unfortunately, the cells lining the intestine 
29-11-2020 03:58:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: It's one of those things like "We can make commercial flying machines good enough that the average person can afford to take cross-continential trips in them, and mostly be concerned about having to wait in line before boarding.
29-11-2020 03:59:30 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: And being harrassed by security, of course
29-11-2020 04:00:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: that's self-inflicted, mostly.
29-11-2020 04:01:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: We made a metal tube that flies by going really fast and cutting the air just right
29-11-2020 04:03:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: We also made iron horses that run on the squeezings of dead dinosaurs. 
29-11-2020 04:05:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: We also made guns.
29-11-2020 04:05:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Guns are really cool and impressive.
29-11-2020 04:06:09 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Guns are op
29-11-2020 04:06:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: indeed.
29-11-2020 04:06:48 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Testament to the amount of effort we're willing to put into killing each other
29-11-2020 04:06:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: We made a metal tube that contains an explosion that hurls a bit of shrapnel at people we don't like
29-11-2020 04:07:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: And sometimes people we do like.
29-11-2020 04:08:06 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: And weddings full of people who happen to be standing near the people we dislike
29-11-2020 04:10:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Guns don't kill people
29-11-2020 04:10:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: exsanguination does
29-11-2020 04:11:55 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Or deformation of the brain, or lack of oxygen getting to the blood
29-11-2020 04:12:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: 'cessation of vital signs'
29-11-2020 04:13:42 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Death happens when the brain breaks or stops getting what it needs from other organs
29-11-2020 04:18:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Is death death if death death death?
29-11-2020 04:19:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Is death a verb?
29-11-2020 04:19:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: English is a mystery 
29-11-2020 04:25:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: You know, Perplexicon is a really good pun.
29-11-2020 04:28:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: yes?
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29-11-2020 04:29:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Back when piecewise games were good
29-11-2020 04:30:08 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Lemme just respond for er
29-11-2020 04:30:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: "Piecewise games were never good"
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29-11-2020 04:30:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: perplexicon was good
29-11-2020 04:31:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Piecewise games are still good.
29-11-2020 04:31:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Is Call of Earth gonna be released in 2020?
29-11-2020 04:31:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: cabal certainly is~
29-11-2020 04:31:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Nah, call of earth ain't coming out in the next...what 5 weeks?
29-11-2020 04:33:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: The lore doc is sitting at...103 pages. My estimate of 500 pages or so looks to be roughly correct, maybe a bit low. Time estimate of a year is looking ok so far, though I've been lazy for the last weeks because I was working on school stuff pretty hard
29-11-2020 04:34:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: ...why?
29-11-2020 04:34:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Why did this turn out so massive?  O.o
29-11-2020 04:35:12 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Its a big hole
29-11-2020 04:35:21 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: But I always estimated it would be quite large
29-11-2020 04:35:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Its fun to work on though
29-11-2020 04:37:12 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Jesus
29-11-2020 04:37:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: thicc lore
29-11-2020 04:37:46 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: will this game be suitable for us to roleplay as a lovestruck couple?
29-11-2020 04:38:10 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Sure
29-11-2020 04:39:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: How long until it's out?
29-11-2020 04:39:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Also the question there is whether Egan can successfully not-die in a Piecewise game.
29-11-2020 04:40:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: perhaps I'd have something to live for
29-11-2020 04:40:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: The lore doc is basically the entire map and all the items and  artifacts and such. Once its done, the mechanics will come next and won't take anywhere near as long. If I continue at a rate of about 2 pages a day (1000 words or so) 200ish days
29-11-2020 04:41:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also, I've died the most times in oz games -_-
29-11-2020 04:43:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Goodnighr, all
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29-11-2020 04:43:56 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: That's quite impressive dubs
29-11-2020 04:44:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Praise me when its done~
29-11-2020 04:44:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: why is hole so big
29-11-2020 04:44:09 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: heh
29-11-2020 04:44:15 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: Nah I shall praise now
29-11-2020 04:44:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Because its like 32 kilometers deep
29-11-2020 04:44:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: something like that, forget the exact measurement
29-11-2020 04:44:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm
29-11-2020 04:45:01 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: how deep is the world in Noita?
29-11-2020 04:45:32 < MidJag_!midjag@230.sub-719-863-271.myvzw.com: So dubs how did you come up with this?
29-11-2020 04:46:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: we pestered him to make a MiA game :P
29-11-2020 04:46:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Its something I've been thinking about for a while
29-11-2020 04:47:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: and I got galvanized into finally doing it. 
29-11-2020 04:47:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Though, MIA's hole is still mysterious so I had to create my own histories, rationales, forces, etc
29-11-2020 04:47:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: As per noita's depth, not sure
29-11-2020 04:47:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: can't find a rip of the map or anyone talking about it
29-11-2020 04:48:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Noita is one impressively huge world
29-11-2020 04:49:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Ah found it
29-11-2020 04:49:21 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: heh
29-11-2020 04:49:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: 484 mb map
29-11-2020 04:49:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I'll do a quick bit of math for it once its downloaded
29-11-2020 04:49:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: assuming the character is roughly 2 meters
29-11-2020 04:52:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: We'll assume we're talking the main path too, not the The Work (Hell)
29-11-2020 04:52:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah, just down to the main boss
29-11-2020 04:56:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: I can't wait to see my image editor struggle painfully with this thing
29-11-2020 05:08:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Estimating VERY roughly
29-11-2020 05:12:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: 1.5-2 Km
29-11-2020 05:12:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: deep
29-11-2020 05:12:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hmm, yup
29-11-2020 05:13:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: okay so, if I'm visualizing all the "main game" of Noita as a deepass hole
29-11-2020 05:13:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it's not nearly as deepass as your hole
29-11-2020 05:13:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it's a tiny fraction of the mighty depth of PW's hole
29-11-2020 05:14:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Then Call of earth would be something like 21 to 16 times deeper
29-11-2020 05:14:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: this is a hole which we're going to get 0.5% down and then fucking die
29-11-2020 05:14:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Roughly equal to the average thickness of the earth's crust
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29-11-2020 05:15:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: is the world in holegame flat or round?
29-11-2020 05:15:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: Oblate spheroid~
29-11-2020 05:16:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I always liked the idea for a fantasy setting where if you dig deep enough you just come back out the top
29-11-2020 05:16:39 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: congrats, you dug down to the sky's ceiling
29-11-2020 05:16:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: not you know why there are so many deep dwarven sky pirates who come out of nowhere
29-11-2020 05:17:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: and fall forever
29-11-2020 05:17:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: if you had enough piping you could make an infinite waterfall
29-11-2020 05:17:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: free energy, bitches
29-11-2020 05:18:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: the gods gave unlimited free energy to whoever dug deepest
29-11-2020 05:18:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: if you could fall the whole way it would take you 80 seconds
29-11-2020 05:19:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: how many prayers can you fit into that much time?
29-11-2020 05:19:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: depends how long the prayer is I suppose
29-11-2020 05:23:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@2607:fb90:2842:tihk:gyv:lwpu:zlxv:riqs: In any case, bed time for me
29-11-2020 05:23:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: go regenerate your writer juice
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29-11-2020 05:49:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hey Devastator
29-11-2020 05:49:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: updated Ariane
29-11-2020 06:32:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: ooh.
29-11-2020 07:35:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: hmm.
29-11-2020 07:35:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: Well, makes sense if she's tortured.
29-11-2020 07:35:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: would it be reasonable for Ariane to carry her?
29-11-2020 07:36:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Not really, Ariane isn't so strong
29-11-2020 07:37:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: wew, is late
29-11-2020 07:37:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: sleepy
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29-11-2020 07:38:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: hmm, hopefully that's a yet.
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29-11-2020 07:43:44 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: As in "not strong yet"?
29-11-2020 07:44:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: more or less.
29-11-2020 07:44:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: but she does seem capable enough.
29-11-2020 07:45:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: just want to think about this.
29-11-2020 07:45:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: not going to leave her behind, and can't carry her, hmm.
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29-11-2020 20:07:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: That okay for Ariane?  I'm bad at people.
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29-11-2020 23:24:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: The muscle car market is strange.
29-11-2020 23:24:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: only market where making the exhaust really, really cheap is a good idea.
29-11-2020 23:24:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: brum brum
29-11-2020 23:35:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: pretty much.
29-11-2020 23:36:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: can't make a really good one, but I'll engineer a prototype just to get practice with those kinds of engines and various other things.
29-11-2020 23:36:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I need a bigger factory to make them cheap enough to be popular.
29-11-2020 23:38:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: That factory should be making cheap versions of my premium trim vehicle, really.  I'll make one.
29-11-2020 23:38:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: sweet jesus this motor is loud.
29-11-2020 23:39:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: BRRRRRRRRRRRRR
29-11-2020 23:39:23 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that's good, right? :P
29-11-2020 23:40:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: pretty much, sheesh.
29-11-2020 23:41:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: your market is "obnoxious cars to annoy the neighbors with", after all
29-11-2020 23:42:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: pretty much.
29-11-2020 23:43:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: fuck it, I'll go for the muscle premium market.  This factory can max out at about 300 cars, anyway.  Right now it's 60 people, but the market didn't exist two years ago.
29-11-2020 23:46:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: I'll make a varient of this engine with more sane settings for some kinda sports car too.
29-11-2020 23:46:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: although the engine is actually pretty cheap.  The expensive parts is the chassis.
29-11-2020 23:50:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: retuning for the premium market just made it louder.
29-11-2020 23:50:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: (basically just a twin-carb)
29-11-2020 23:51:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@thbm-9t5pk2sp5vqprpxgy88tconn0.ipv9.telus.net: come to think of it, they can afford a 2 barrel carb too.