22-11-2020 00:11:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: bot Automation
22-11-2020 00:11:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: apparently it's simply not economically viable to build luxury cars in the Soviet Union.  ;-p
22-11-2020 00:11:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: so now trying to build the best cheapwagon possible.
22-11-2020 00:11:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: 15% of the lower market can afford the car!
22-11-2020 00:11:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: they have no money.
22-11-2020 00:13:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Glorious 8.5 HP engine.
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22-11-2020 02:00:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: no sy :(
22-11-2020 02:02:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: mmm
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22-11-2020 04:52:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: boop
22-11-2020 05:00:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I've felt fine all day, and only start feeling sleepy just before my eight hour shift.
22-11-2020 05:00:59 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com sighs
22-11-2020 05:05:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: heh.
22-11-2020 05:05:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: right on time.
22-11-2020 05:07:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: and heya syv, er.
22-11-2020 05:07:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: and heya dev, er.
22-11-2020 05:07:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Right on time?
22-11-2020 05:08:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: time to get tired, just before work.
22-11-2020 05:08:35 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Hello
22-11-2020 05:08:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Hello!
22-11-2020 05:09:31 < er!androirc@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Sleeeepy
22-11-2020 05:09:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: looks like Nak's back around.
22-11-2020 05:09:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Hum.
22-11-2020 05:09:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: 1 year delay between updates.
22-11-2020 05:10:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Haven't posted in PS, though PS looks dead.
22-11-2020 05:10:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Hasn't, but yes.
22-11-2020 05:10:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: there is only one Nakéen.
22-11-2020 05:11:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Is there anything special about them?
22-11-2020 05:12:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Well.. yes.
22-11-2020 05:12:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Such as?
22-11-2020 05:12:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: but don't say haven't, it sounds like " I haven't "
22-11-2020 05:14:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Hum.  Yeah, problem arising from thinking of Nak as a gender-neutral individual.  "They haven't" vs "Nak hasn't".
22-11-2020 05:15:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: The thing is, "Hasn't posted in PS" is itself non-masculine or feminine.
22-11-2020 05:16:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Yep!
22-11-2020 05:16:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: But I was omitting the "they" in my head.
22-11-2020 05:16:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Still don't see one, there's only Nakéen.
22-11-2020 05:16:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: but you know my opinion on that.
22-11-2020 05:18:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: That carmaking game might be too complicated for me.
22-11-2020 05:18:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Also the business plan of 'building luxury cars for the post-war soviet union was a poor idea.'
22-11-2020 05:19:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Indeed.
22-11-2020 05:19:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: The market is just too small.
22-11-2020 05:20:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: game not really intended for making 30 cars a month, when the smallest engine factory can make 1000 units a month or so.
22-11-2020 05:21:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: but it was fun designing soviet jalopies.  Just how cheap can you make a car?
22-11-2020 05:22:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Can get like 400 competitiveness ratings for like the budget family demographic, because you can't go below a zero rating in many categories.
22-11-2020 05:22:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Sportiness for a 9 HP vehicles might be like -45, but that rounds to zero.
22-11-2020 05:23:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Hah
22-11-2020 05:23:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: "We want to make the people's car!  What is the shittiest vehicle that can move?"
22-11-2020 05:25:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Basically.
22-11-2020 05:25:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: It's a few years in now..
22-11-2020 05:26:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: some of the markets have gotten more money.
22-11-2020 05:26:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: some with more buyers, some with more money.
22-11-2020 05:26:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Family budget median: 2780, +- 2080.
22-11-2020 05:27:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: so the poorest individual buyers there have 700 bucks.
22-11-2020 05:27:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: No, I can't make a car cheap enough for that.
22-11-2020 05:28:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: some poor bastard in the standard convertible market bought one, which is sad.
22-11-2020 05:28:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: How cheap *can* you make it?
22-11-2020 05:29:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: I'm pretty close to the limit.  It's hard to give an exact number, because there's factory tooling and wage adjustments.
22-11-2020 05:32:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: okay, 5.5 million to build 2080 cars a month.
22-11-2020 05:33:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: 2644 per car.
22-11-2020 05:33:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: but there's engineering and tooling and factory costs above that.
22-11-2020 05:34:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Makes sense.
22-11-2020 05:34:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: So the average family *can* indeed purchase your jalopy/
22-11-2020 05:35:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: It's pretty shit.
22-11-2020 05:36:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Does it explode when it crashes?
22-11-2020 05:37:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: it has a safety rating of 6.
22-11-2020 05:37:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: so probably not.
22-11-2020 05:37:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: it's easier to design a new one rather than to show you in the middle of things, can't change stuff when a project is ongoing.
22-11-2020 05:37:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: 6 out of what?  10?
22-11-2020 05:37:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: doesn't seem to be an upper limit for most ratings, but sure.
22-11-2020 05:38:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: closer to 100.
22-11-2020 05:38:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: anyway, it's easier to show you.
22-11-2020 05:38:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: want a stream?
22-11-2020 05:41:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Ah, sure.
22-11-2020 05:41:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: But will have to set up comp, so a few minutes.
22-11-2020 05:45:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Ok
22-11-2020 05:45:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Stream?  :3
22-11-2020 05:45:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Stream up.
22-11-2020 05:46:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Okay, what's the name of jalopy motors?
22-11-2020 05:47:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Brb clouds >a.
22-11-2020 05:50:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Gasmea is America, Hetvesia is Sweden, Fruinia is Italy, Archana is the Soviet Union, and Dalluma is basically an oil petrostate.
22-11-2020 05:50:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Okay
22-11-2020 05:50:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Fruit, I guess.
22-11-2020 05:51:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Just to change from the sovoet union
22-11-2020 05:51:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: ahh, I was going to show off jalopies.
22-11-2020 05:51:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: and they're really only amusing when dealing with the utter shithole that is the glorious soviet market.
22-11-2020 05:51:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Well, make a soviet jalopy if you want/
22-11-2020 05:51:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Basically, demographics here are how many car buyers there are in each market.
22-11-2020 05:52:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: What's the %?
22-11-2020 05:53:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: And how is it negative?
22-11-2020 05:53:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: how much the size of each category is changing per year.
22-11-2020 05:53:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Ahh, so you
22-11-2020 05:53:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: 're growing massively in Russia.
22-11-2020 05:53:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: as you can see, some people are getting out of the dirt poor categories, so they're not growing as fast as the sane ones.
22-11-2020 05:53:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: this isn't you, this is the whole country.
22-11-2020 05:54:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Oh.
22-11-2020 05:54:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: but jalopies, well.. aiming for family budget.
22-11-2020 05:54:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Big category.
22-11-2020 05:55:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: There's another detail there.
22-11-2020 05:55:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: see that checkbox with 'limit to awareness'?
22-11-2020 05:55:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Yeah.
22-11-2020 05:55:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: here it is with only the number of people who have heard of this car company.
22-11-2020 05:55:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: so this is the reachable market size.
22-11-2020 05:55:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Oh.
22-11-2020 05:55:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Well fuck.
22-11-2020 05:55:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: it goes up as you expand dealerships, and actually sell vehicles in that category.
22-11-2020 05:56:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: I picked level 3 to start with for free, so 6% across the board.
22-11-2020 05:56:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I like how there's one single convertible luxury buyer who knows you exist.
22-11-2020 05:56:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Luxury Convertables!
22-11-2020 05:56:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: unlmit it and you can see it's a whole 22 people a month.
22-11-2020 05:56:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: the Luxury Premium market seems to be two people every three months or so.
22-11-2020 05:57:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Those are the friends of the president, I guess.
22-11-2020 05:57:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: presumably.
22-11-2020 05:57:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: although, really, premium, luxury and luxury P are probably all officials.
22-11-2020 05:57:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: maybe guys like factory bosses and such can make it into the regular premium demos and Premium Budget.
22-11-2020 05:58:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: but no, need to target those lower demos, as they're the only ones with enough people to keep a car factory running.
22-11-2020 06:00:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: anyway, going back a year because for some reason the 1946 trim bodies all have small cabins and long hoods.  Don't need that, so going back a year for more room.
22-11-2020 06:01:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: This game strikes me as a car company fetishist's wet dream.
22-11-2020 06:01:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: It's insanely detailed.
22-11-2020 06:01:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: and yes.
22-11-2020 06:04:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: I'll be seeing if I can add a couple varients to this, like the pickup bed one.
22-11-2020 06:04:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: helps increase your market a little.
22-11-2020 06:05:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: but might not be worth it, since these have more storage than the '46 model.
22-11-2020 06:05:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Two gears?
22-11-2020 06:05:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: 1946, baby.
22-11-2020 06:05:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Wow.
22-11-2020 06:05:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: was common in dragsters through the 60s.
22-11-2020 06:05:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: And in jalopies?  :P
22-11-2020 06:06:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: oh yes.
22-11-2020 06:06:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Note that the Premium AM Radio is 1800 bucks just for the radio.
22-11-2020 06:07:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: okay, there's issues and a ton of optimization to be done, but here we go.
22-11-2020 06:08:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: This is just a wall of information.
22-11-2020 06:09:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: basically.
22-11-2020 06:09:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: right now I'm jsut making it bounce on springs horribly, because it's at zero sportiness and will never get positive, so..
22-11-2020 06:09:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: may as well have some comfort!
22-11-2020 06:12:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: the amusing part is the numbers at the upper left.
22-11-2020 06:13:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: the percentages there are the estimated percentage of that market who can afford this vehicle.
22-11-2020 06:13:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: at.. 1470.7 per car, game estimates it at 15.7% of that market can buy this.
22-11-2020 06:13:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: which is hilariously low.
22-11-2020 06:13:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: I'll get it lower from engineering choices and factory choices.
22-11-2020 06:14:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: tire and wheel sizes there made it steer much differently.
22-11-2020 06:14:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: currently it's at a position that's mostly functional on skinny tires.. that's 105mm.
22-11-2020 06:15:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: or about four inches.
22-11-2020 06:15:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: smaller tires also knocked 50 bucks off the price.
22-11-2020 06:15:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: If your car kills people, will you lose market share
22-11-2020 06:15:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: ?
22-11-2020 06:16:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: dunno!
22-11-2020 06:16:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: ...Actually, can you kill off a market by making sufficiently lethal cars?
22-11-2020 06:16:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: but no, recalls hurt how many people like it.
22-11-2020 06:16:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: and no, they just won't buy them.
22-11-2020 06:16:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I want that to be possible.
22-11-2020 06:17:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: This game seems really silly to me, but if someone made basically the same thing but with guns, I'd adore it.
22-11-2020 06:17:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Yes.
22-11-2020 06:17:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: it'd even have the different markets!
22-11-2020 06:17:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: The gun version should definitely allow you to kill off markets.
22-11-2020 06:17:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: I'm gaming the fuel efficiency calculations there by having the gearing be too short to reach the next speed.
22-11-2020 06:18:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: ..but nah, not my cup of tea.
22-11-2020 06:19:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: fuel system quality there affects the fuel mileage.
22-11-2020 06:19:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: so more expensive can be much cheaper.
22-11-2020 06:20:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: with that I'm mostly looking at engineering time, the bottommost symbol there in the lower left.
22-11-2020 06:21:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: in there, the better engineered exhaust makes it slightly faster and quieter.
22-11-2020 06:21:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: I'm not paying close attention, just looking occasionally and thinking "wow that's a lot of numbers"
22-11-2020 06:21:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: again, at no dollar value.
22-11-2020 06:21:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: heh.
22-11-2020 06:22:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: I like the x10 multiplier on the dynomometer down there.
22-11-2020 06:22:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: 8.9 HP!  So amazing!  ;-p
22-11-2020 06:26:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: okay, paint time.
22-11-2020 06:27:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Why paint it?
22-11-2020 06:27:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: That's money!
22-11-2020 06:28:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Mostly so you can make it look like this.
22-11-2020 06:29:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: A glossy banana?
22-11-2020 06:29:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: The thing is ridiculous.
22-11-2020 06:30:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: anyway, there's more that can be gotten out of it, but that'll do.
22-11-2020 06:30:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: the last jalopy I had scored better, but I gave that game better starting R&D, so there were more points to be earned.
22-11-2020 06:31:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: ahh, that tall tall second gear.
22-11-2020 06:31:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: This car is massive shit
22-11-2020 06:31:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: well, yes, a 1946 soviet jalopy?
22-11-2020 06:31:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: That's kinda the idea.
22-11-2020 06:32:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: yay, uphill.  God.
22-11-2020 06:32:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: in reality I'd shorten that gear a bit, but the game doesn't care.
22-11-2020 06:33:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Banhammerhead.
22-11-2020 06:33:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Oh hey, >40 hm/h
22-11-2020 06:34:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: this part's the downhill.
22-11-2020 06:34:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Can the test driver lose control and go off course?
22-11-2020 06:34:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: it might get past the redline.
22-11-2020 06:34:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: no.  I mean, you can.
22-11-2020 06:34:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: This is the fastest one of these will ever go, I'm guessing?
22-11-2020 06:34:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: these cars can be exported to a driving program.
22-11-2020 06:34:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: yeah.  In reality that'd have to be put in neutral to take that.
22-11-2020 06:35:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: it hit 88.
22-11-2020 06:35:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: kph.
22-11-2020 06:36:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: should be significantly worse than the starting bay 12 motors jalopy, that had 27 horsepower.
22-11-2020 06:37:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: I couldn't bear it and retuned it to get an extra horsepower.
22-11-2020 06:37:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: spent an extra 5 bucks on the engine.
22-11-2020 06:38:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: and 5 more brings it to 11 HP.
22-11-2020 06:39:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: and sanity gears.
22-11-2020 06:39:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: should save like a minute.
22-11-2020 06:39:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: 7 minutes, 29 seconds.
22-11-2020 06:39:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: this should be much better.
22-11-2020 06:43:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: only hit 91, heh.
22-11-2020 06:43:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: 6 minutes 7 seconds.
22-11-2020 06:46:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: then there's the factory and engineering phase, which is FAR TOO MANY NUMBERS.
22-11-2020 06:51:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: and I fucked up.
22-11-2020 06:51:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: a small factory can't make steel cars.
22-11-2020 06:51:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: only aluminium.
22-11-2020 06:53:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: looks like starting cost is 831.2 per car body.
22-11-2020 06:55:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: broke 500 with some expensive tooling choices.
22-11-2020 06:55:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: and rock-bottom pay.
22-11-2020 07:00:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: engines down to 376 each
22-11-2020 07:01:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: 368 with engineering changes.
22-11-2020 07:04:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: game thinks it's gonna be a big winner.
22-11-2020 07:04:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: total cost is.. 2740 per unit.
22-11-2020 07:05:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: didn't get it as low as the last one, but that had a 340cc engine.  This one has a 450cc engine.
22-11-2020 07:07:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: well, actually, the game thinks I'll lose 41 million after ten years, but sales are going to be much higher than those minimums.
22-11-2020 07:07:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: ie, market awareness will mean they all sell.
22-11-2020 07:08:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: it also includes building a medium factory, which wouldn't have been necessary if I wasn't being stupid about things.
22-11-2020 07:08:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Room for expansion!
22-11-2020 07:09:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Soon there will be a car in every home!
22-11-2020 07:09:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: yes.
22-11-2020 07:10:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: Man, you know a car factory would have all kinds of fun stuff for alida to play with.
22-11-2020 07:10:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: can run on a dyno, pull a sled..
22-11-2020 07:10:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: probably something to test biting too.
22-11-2020 07:11:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: whoops, went bankrupt.  Too many factory addons.  Could have done it for like 500 million less, but hit some of the factory addons for way too much money.
22-11-2020 07:13:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: really easy to screw yourself by screwing up when clicking a button to spend 360 million or so.
22-11-2020 07:15:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@794-221-764-269.biz.spectrum.com: Hah
22-11-2020 07:16:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubh-3j6qm0rn4rizkitsko5j9igrr.ipv7.telus.net: yeah, I clicked two buttons when building that factory that spent too much money.
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