04-11-2020 01:03:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Ah, time to dispassionately watch the votes come in
04-11-2020 01:04:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Biden has 30 more electoral votes than trump despite having less popular votes
04-11-2020 01:04:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: don't distract me, I'm watching the b12 ameripol discord
04-11-2020 01:04:45 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: oh really?
04-11-2020 01:04:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: they having fun?
04-11-2020 01:05:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I think they subsist on a novel kind of pleasure mostly consisting of screaming into the void
04-11-2020 01:05:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Good for them I guess
04-11-2020 01:10:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I still wonder how they're even gonna make a decision 
04-11-2020 01:10:45 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I mean people are still mailing in votes even today
04-11-2020 01:20:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Will be interesting to see if they even attempt to call it tonight
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04-11-2020 02:55:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: lo
04-11-2020 02:55:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yea
04-11-2020 02:56:08 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: did yah vote?
04-11-2020 02:56:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: of course
04-11-2020 02:56:23 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: As did I.
04-11-2020 02:56:29 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Got my sticker and everything.
04-11-2020 03:04:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I voted by mail weeks ago
04-11-2020 03:04:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I can be confident its laying in a ditch somewhere
04-11-2020 03:04:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: like the founding fathers always wanted
04-11-2020 03:04:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah, most likely
04-11-2020 03:04:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: buncha dicks
04-11-2020 03:04:54 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Well of course, you mail in a vote the courier gets shot in the head. Just like Fallout.
04-11-2020 03:05:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Happens a lot around here
04-11-2020 03:05:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: we've had a spate of violence on the strip
04-11-2020 03:05:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I'm both suprised and not suprised.
04-11-2020 03:06:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I never really know what to make of vegas.
04-11-2020 03:07:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Actually, what is vegas like to live in dubs?
04-11-2020 03:09:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I mean everyone knows the strip
04-11-2020 03:09:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: but its actually not hugely different from a lot of other places
04-11-2020 03:09:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: The biggest differences are
04-11-2020 03:10:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: 1. Huge amounts of people work on the strip. Our largest job provider in the state is MGM Grand
04-11-2020 03:10:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: 2. There's gambling everywhere. There are slot machines in grocery stores and gas stations. Unironically
04-11-2020 03:11:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Huh. Alabama once had a thing about electronic bingo being gambling. Sounds very different. 
04-11-2020 03:11:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Its honestly a lot like Arizona
04-11-2020 03:11:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: once you get away from the strip
04-11-2020 03:12:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Or really any South west american city
04-11-2020 03:12:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I've never actually been out west. I was going to go on a road trip there 2020 summer but you konw, COVID kept that from really coacelising.
04-11-2020 03:12:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Its an interesting place
04-11-2020 03:13:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Quite nice if you like colored rocks~
04-11-2020 03:13:03 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Apparently trump won florida on the cuban population which is causing consternation among "Anti-racists"
04-11-2020 03:13:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: however they define THAT group
04-11-2020 03:14:08 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Trump won florida?
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04-11-2020 03:15:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And I guess that's not suprising? I'd probably be pretty right wing if my family had fled a communist dictator like 2 generations ago.
04-11-2020 03:21:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: https://www.270towin.com/2020-election-results-live/
04-11-2020 03:21:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: this is the one I'm keeping an eye on
04-11-2020 03:21:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: but obviously everywhere is counting right now and the exact numbers always vary
04-11-2020 03:22:37 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: oh right, these guys
04-11-2020 03:24:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: And of course you can already count that 55 California votes for biden 
04-11-2020 03:24:54 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Those were never going anywhere
04-11-2020 03:25:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah.
04-11-2020 03:26:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And I expect you can count Alabama for trump.
04-11-2020 03:26:57 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: If it doesn't I will actually die of suprise.
04-11-2020 03:29:54 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: on yahoo trump is winning the popular vote by 2 million but losing by 30 electoral votes
04-11-2020 03:30:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I saw that one.
04-11-2020 03:30:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: and winning by...22 electoral votes on 270 to win
04-11-2020 03:30:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: thats a pretty big divergence 
04-11-2020 03:30:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah.
04-11-2020 03:31:57 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Hmm, I think the only rational response to all this is getting so drunk I can't read any of the numbers. I'll be right back.
04-11-2020 03:34:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I mostly just glance at it here and there with the full knowledge we won't really know shit for likely days
04-11-2020 03:37:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Things seem to be following the forecasts for now
04-11-2020 03:39:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: thats a headline
04-11-2020 03:39:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: "The global population is both underfed and overweight"
04-11-2020 03:41:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Everything seems to be identical to 2016 last year
04-11-2020 03:41:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: mmm.
04-11-2020 03:41:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: last election I mean
04-11-2020 03:41:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: you mean the one where trump won exactly the number of votes he needed across three states to take it?
04-11-2020 03:42:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: ugh.
04-11-2020 03:42:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: he'll need more than three this time.
04-11-2020 03:42:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: but ugh.
04-11-2020 03:42:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I mean we're in the middle of middle america right now
04-11-2020 03:42:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: in terms of votes
04-11-2020 03:43:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: I'll check tomorrow night.
04-11-2020 03:43:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: that west coast is gonna hit hard
04-11-2020 03:43:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: They're predicting Nevada to go blue
04-11-2020 03:43:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: I just really hope that fucking the mail didn't throw the election.
04-11-2020 03:43:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: that would be the worst of all precedents.
04-11-2020 03:44:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: I do know about half a dozen PA counties plan on counting zero mail votes today.
04-11-2020 03:44:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Well, if trump loses he's been arguing for it it being rigged via the mail since the beginning. But if he wins I feel like we'll see democrats say things were rigged. Not sure about the truth of anything but everyone seems ready to cry foul
04-11-2020 03:44:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: so gonna try and ignore it for now.
04-11-2020 03:44:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: I dunno, only one side can be right there.
04-11-2020 03:44:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: and it wont' be the one calling for votes to be counted.
04-11-2020 03:45:15 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: we'll have to see
04-11-2020 03:45:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: it'll be the one calling for them to be tossed out that'll be the one doing fraud.
04-11-2020 03:45:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I have no idea honestly
04-11-2020 03:45:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: anyway, probably gotta get off here tonight.
04-11-2020 03:45:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: sorry, PW.
04-11-2020 03:45:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: no prob
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04-11-2020 03:46:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah. I dunno. It'll be intresting
04-11-2020 03:46:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I feel like regardless of what I think, it will go the other way
04-11-2020 03:47:22 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I have a humungeous beer and it will be consumed quicklly. That's about all I know for certain tonight.
04-11-2020 03:50:59 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Man, this has been such an odd year.
04-11-2020 03:51:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: indeed
04-11-2020 03:52:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: welp outside of watching the election how've you been dubs?
04-11-2020 03:52:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: alright I suppose. Finished up two more classes, getting the ankle taken care of on thursday, wife bought a new car
04-11-2020 03:53:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: looking for an apartment for a year in reno so I can do my clinic work
04-11-2020 03:53:29 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Oh cool, what's your wife do? I rember you mentioned she did something hospital related.
04-11-2020 03:53:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Nuclear Medicine
04-11-2020 03:53:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: PET scans and such
04-11-2020 03:54:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Oh neat, PET scans are just awesome.
04-11-2020 03:54:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: They're useful for my work, thats for sure
04-11-2020 03:54:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: she gives them the little bit of dose, I give em the big bit
04-11-2020 03:55:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: the substantially bigger bit
04-11-2020 03:55:25 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yes, I suppose having a scan that highlights places with inflammation like cancer would be useful to a man controlling a proton cannon.
04-11-2020 03:55:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Photon cannon
04-11-2020 03:55:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah right.
04-11-2020 03:55:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Proton cannons are more expensive!
04-11-2020 03:56:03 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: And bigger
04-11-2020 03:56:10 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: getting smaller thouhg
04-11-2020 03:56:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: used to be like...as big as a 3 story building
04-11-2020 03:56:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: .....Huh.
04-11-2020 03:56:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/02/protontech.jpg
04-11-2020 03:57:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Cause you need a cyclotron and giant moving gantries and such
04-11-2020 03:57:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: where as a photon beam is just an oversized xray tube
04-11-2020 03:58:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah. Are proton cannons used for radiation therapy? I really don't know much about it.
04-11-2020 03:58:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: They are!
04-11-2020 03:58:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Generally for specialized things
04-11-2020 03:58:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Children, brain cancer, etc
04-11-2020 03:59:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah. What's the advantage?
04-11-2020 03:59:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Comes down to the "Bragg peak"
04-11-2020 03:59:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: More precisce?
04-11-2020 03:59:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: https://www.scripps.org/sparkle-assets/images/hi_res_bragg_peak.jpg
04-11-2020 04:00:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Xrays give dose in a relatively steady decreasing energy from entry to exit
04-11-2020 04:00:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: protons give it in a big bunch right at the end of their path and then die out
04-11-2020 04:00:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: and you can vary where that is by energy
04-11-2020 04:01:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: has to do with the difference between charged particle interactions and neutral xray interactions
04-11-2020 04:01:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Intresting. So that essentially lets you skip past the tissue between you and the tumour with relativelly less damage?
04-11-2020 04:02:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: It lets you greatly reduce dose to the tissue on the "Front" side and reduce it to basically none on the other
04-11-2020 04:02:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Here's an example
04-11-2020 04:02:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: https://www.sccaprotontherapy.com/images/content/Final_Prostate_Horz.jpg
04-11-2020 04:03:08 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Fuck that's cool.
04-11-2020 04:03:13 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Indeed
04-11-2020 04:04:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: But the expense and tech mean its only sometimes used. And in many cases its true it doesn't really have a huge difference. Prostate cancer doses don't need high precision like brain cancer
04-11-2020 04:04:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: but we'll likely see more and more proton used as it gets cheaper and more reasonably sized
04-11-2020 04:04:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Right. What's the smallest one now adays?
04-11-2020 04:05:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Ahhh last trade show I was at they were talking about it taking up like a large room instead of a multistory building
04-11-2020 04:05:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: not sure of thats just the cyclotron and track or they include the gantry in that
04-11-2020 04:06:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: since the gantry itself is, traditionally, like a cage rotating around the entire room
04-11-2020 04:06:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: There are a lot of weird modalities for radiation therapy
04-11-2020 04:06:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I'll bet.
04-11-2020 04:06:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: cyber knife, gamma knife, tomo
04-11-2020 04:07:20 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I can guess gama knife, but cyber knife?
04-11-2020 04:08:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: So gamma knife is when they literally bolt 200 some odd cobalt sources to your head and use them to very precisely irradiate your brain
04-11-2020 04:09:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/11/590x/secondary/Gamma-knife-machine-217370.jpg
04-11-2020 04:09:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: like that
04-11-2020 04:09:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: huh
04-11-2020 04:09:45 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Cyber knife is basically a bit ol' robot arm instead of a gantry
04-11-2020 04:09:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: more freedom of movement
04-11-2020 04:10:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: https://www.royalmarsden.org/sites/default/files/2017-07/HERO%20Olie%20Cyberknife.jpg
04-11-2020 04:10:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see, so you can rotate the paitent better for more precisie irradiating?
04-11-2020 04:10:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Can even do things like track movement from breathing, heart beat, gut churning, etc
04-11-2020 04:10:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Well, more like rotate and move the source compared to the patient
04-11-2020 04:11:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah right.
04-11-2020 04:11:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I'm sure Cyberknife must be lower energy though...
04-11-2020 04:11:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: can't get too much out of that size I'd think
04-11-2020 04:12:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: More potent source maybe?
04-11-2020 04:12:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Nah, we use linear accelerators for almost everything now. Physical sources are resigned to specialty things and Brachytherapy 
04-11-2020 04:13:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: looks like its a 6 million electron volt beam
04-11-2020 04:13:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Neat.
04-11-2020 04:13:18 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: which ain't bad
04-11-2020 04:13:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: normal linacs will generally go anywhere from 10 to 18 or 20
04-11-2020 04:14:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Not that you really need that high most of the time
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04-11-2020 04:15:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: no, ER's off.
04-11-2020 04:15:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-9e0gx2nf5wsoh2ltuvu729dhp.ipv4.telus.net: was going to ask to be notified if syv shows up for animes.
04-11-2020 04:15:21 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: ah
04-11-2020 04:15:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So stupid question I know, but what exactlly do the differnet energies do? Like is it more becasue certain tumours are more resistnt to certain amounts of radiation? Or is it something to do with only needing to do one dose or something?
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04-11-2020 04:18:00 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: So different tumors ARE more or less resistant to radiation depending on their cells of origin. And the tissues around them can also be more or less resistant. But the big deciding factor tends to be penetration. Radiation has what they call a "Dmax" or a dose max point, before which the dose to tissue is basically negligible. Higher energies push deeper before having effect and push deeper with less drop off after that
04-11-2020 04:18:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: more "Central" tumors often use higher energy to penetrate more effectively
04-11-2020 04:19:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Huh, intresting. I didn't know that higher energy could result in less surronding tissue damage.
04-11-2020 04:19:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Well, less on entry 
04-11-2020 04:20:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: But its a balancing act. They tend to use higher energies  on more focused beams
04-11-2020 04:20:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: and they tend to never just hit from one angle
04-11-2020 04:20:45 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: they hit from multiple angles, converging on the tumor
04-11-2020 04:21:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: so you'll only get 10 gy dose through surrounding tissue but the tumor itself will get 80gy from the converging beams
04-11-2020 04:23:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: And of course we do the treatment over like 30 days
04-11-2020 04:25:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: intresting.
04-11-2020 04:26:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: You deep enough into medical hell to know what you're specializing in yet by the way?
04-11-2020 04:30:30 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Not really. I'm still just applying to medical school. The current plan is transplants though.
04-11-2020 04:31:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Motorbike enthusiast recycler eh?
04-11-2020 04:32:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Don't know muhc about it myself, but its likely good work
04-11-2020 04:33:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, the main thing I want to get into is xenotranplantion honestlly.
04-11-2020 04:33:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: gotta find yourself a xeno first~
04-11-2020 04:34:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Who knows though
04-11-2020 04:34:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: you might be transplanted 3d printed organs in 15 years
04-11-2020 04:35:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, or it might never really be ready for prime time, no one really knows. 
04-11-2020 04:38:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: immunotherapy in cancer treatment is a lot like that
04-11-2020 04:38:21 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah?
04-11-2020 04:38:31 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: has some very promising aspects and some great results in certain cases, but right now is pretty underwhelming
04-11-2020 04:38:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That's what I've heard.
04-11-2020 04:39:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Hyperthermia in combination with radiation is a good combo though
04-11-2020 04:40:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Intresting.
04-11-2020 04:40:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: since cancer either can't or prefers not to produce proteins to prevent itself from denaturing in heat, combined with radiation it can be quite effective
04-11-2020 04:41:31 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I remember one guy talking about how people who survived cancers and spontaneously got better in the past were those who generally got some kind of tropical fever
04-11-2020 04:42:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: makes sense I suppose
04-11-2020 04:42:11 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It does.
04-11-2020 04:45:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Here's hoping we both don't become utterly obsolete before we retire!
04-11-2020 04:47:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I'll drink to that.
04-11-2020 04:50:13 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: You'll drink to anything~
04-11-2020 04:51:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Tonight? Absoulutelly :P
04-11-2020 04:52:18 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Getting that doctor's liver started
04-11-2020 04:53:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Looks to be leaning hard biden for the moment
04-11-2020 04:57:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Curious if it will get called tonight though
04-11-2020 04:57:24 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, I would be suprised, but weirder shits happened this year.
04-11-2020 04:57:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Jeb bush is gonna sweep it in the 11th hour
04-11-2020 05:01:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I feel like the bushes are an excellent example of regression ot the mean. The first bush was a CIA director, the next one mostly did a fuck ton of coke in the national gaurd, and the third one is just forgotten.
04-11-2020 05:02:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Hmmm
04-11-2020 05:03:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: is there another bush brother who is so forgotten he's not even known?
04-11-2020 05:03:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ...I think there may be actually.
04-11-2020 05:04:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: lets see
04-11-2020 05:05:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Marvin Bush
04-11-2020 05:05:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: yep
04-11-2020 05:05:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: And neil bush
04-11-2020 05:05:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yup, never even heard of them.
04-11-2020 05:06:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Marvin didn't even endorse Jeb
04-11-2020 05:06:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: he endorsed the libertarian candidate
04-11-2020 05:07:00 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Neil was with Ted Cruz
04-11-2020 05:07:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: hahahaha
04-11-2020 05:07:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Gee Willikers Jeb, you sure are popular
04-11-2020 05:07:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That's gotta be rough when your own brother doesn't endorse you running for president.
04-11-2020 05:08:18 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fr9m2cmbYo&feature=emb_logo
04-11-2020 05:08:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh
04-11-2020 05:13:59 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Perhaps that's why political dynsastys only seem to work for two generations, everyone starts making fun of them after the second one 
04-11-2020 05:14:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Well
04-11-2020 05:14:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: the ones that do work longer tend to get rid of their families
04-11-2020 05:15:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Heh, true. 
04-11-2020 05:16:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Its a good way to remove competition I suppose
04-11-2020 05:17:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Well of course, no one can assisnate you if everyone else is dead.
04-11-2020 05:18:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Well
04-11-2020 05:18:40 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: no one you KNOW
04-11-2020 05:20:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: True. ~
04-11-2020 05:22:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I should do more Hole tomorrow
04-11-2020 05:22:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: been days since I've worked on it, between everything 
04-11-2020 05:22:42 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Understanble to be sure.
04-11-2020 05:22:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Nearing 100 pages
04-11-2020 05:23:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Damn.
04-11-2020 05:23:37 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That's impressive
04-11-2020 05:24:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Like I said it will probably be around 500 pages in the end. Just a lot of stuff to write down
04-11-2020 05:24:14 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I hate writing, there is no possible way I could write 100 pages to plan a game.
04-11-2020 05:24:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Its a good thing I enjoy it~
04-11-2020 05:24:37 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It is indeed.
04-11-2020 05:26:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I will enjoy seeing players attempt to go through it
04-11-2020 05:27:10 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: for...likely years
04-11-2020 05:27:39 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Sounds very you 
04-11-2020 05:30:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I've already made a lot of work for myself with critters and plants on this level
04-11-2020 05:34:18 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Its gonna be like...geez what 30 animals for just this level
04-11-2020 05:34:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: luckily I have like 15 or so already planned out
04-11-2020 05:34:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: need to fill out the different food web levels though
04-11-2020 05:34:52 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Jesus dubs.
04-11-2020 05:35:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: So what is Hole?
04-11-2020 05:35:21 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: You know made in abyss?
04-11-2020 05:35:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Vaguelly
04-11-2020 05:36:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Its my basic take on the idea of "Big Vertical environment"
04-11-2020 05:36:22 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Oh neat
04-11-2020 05:36:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: It is a 30ish KM deep hole 
04-11-2020 05:36:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: with what I hope to be a reasonable, if alien, environment 
04-11-2020 05:37:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: sounds fun
04-11-2020 05:38:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Indeed!
04-11-2020 05:38:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Least for me
04-11-2020 05:38:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Heh
04-11-2020 05:38:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: hopefully people will like it
04-11-2020 05:38:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: and if not, I've generated tons of ideas for the future 
04-11-2020 05:39:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Eh, your pretty fucking good at making weird but at least mostly logical settings, I expect people will like it.
04-11-2020 05:42:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: RC was already taking about hurling himself straight in just to see how far he got
04-11-2020 05:42:47 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That would probably be my plan. Just go straight down the shaft and see what happens.
04-11-2020 05:42:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Maybe bring a parachute
04-11-2020 05:43:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: well, you'd get in a bit at least
04-11-2020 05:43:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: how far would vary 
04-11-2020 05:43:51 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Has anyone tried a giant drill? Make it into DIG 2.0? :P
04-11-2020 05:44:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Heh, no one has talked about it yet
04-11-2020 05:44:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Still makign the setting and keepign it all secret
04-11-2020 05:44:23 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: neat
04-11-2020 05:44:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I'm interesting to see the ways in which they advance and are stymied 
04-11-2020 05:45:03 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It sounds like fun
04-11-2020 05:48:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: You in any games right now really or too busy?
04-11-2020 05:49:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Honestlly too busy, I might join one once I finnally get done with these secondaries.
04-11-2020 05:50:00 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Only 2 left.
04-11-2020 05:50:22 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And they're mostly copy and paste jobs since I've already written a ton of similar ones.
04-11-2020 05:51:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: A lot of school is busywork it seems
04-11-2020 05:51:36 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: something to fill the gradebook between the tests
04-11-2020 05:52:12 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Pretty much
04-11-2020 05:52:47 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: And this even worse, it's administrative busy work just so they can pretend to get more information, so it's even more pointless
04-11-2020 05:54:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I've got that in the form of "E-portfolios" for every class. 
04-11-2020 05:54:58 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That sounds awful. What are those even?
04-11-2020 05:54:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Where I get to explain, for every single class, that I was assessed using tests, discussions, and papers
04-11-2020 05:55:06 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Jesus
04-11-2020 05:55:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Sounds like hell
04-11-2020 05:55:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Its basically an outrageously expansive interactive resume
04-11-2020 05:55:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: that I AM 100% CERTAIN no fucking employer would ever look at other than to click the "Resume" section
04-11-2020 05:56:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: and probably get pissed they had to go that far
04-11-2020 05:56:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Heh.
04-11-2020 05:56:20 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Genius.
04-11-2020 05:56:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: The lead director of the program is one of those busy bodies who is always trying to innovate in meaningless ways
04-11-2020 05:57:13 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah
04-11-2020 05:57:21 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: has a phd in fucking online learning or something and is bafflingly bad at it
04-11-2020 05:57:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: hahahaha
04-11-2020 05:58:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Its whatever. My job is a technical one; I'll learn what I need to in the clinic
04-11-2020 05:58:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I've always wondered how hard it is to get a PhD in something like that.
04-11-2020 05:58:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: not very is the answer I assume
04-11-2020 05:58:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: mostly a matter of time and money
04-11-2020 05:58:24 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That's what I've always guessed.
04-11-2020 05:58:45 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: A lot of PhD's really just need adequate funding and enough effort to get by
04-11-2020 05:59:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Probably yeah.
04-11-2020 06:00:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Doctor is probably like that right? Just make some guesses, pay a bill here or there
04-11-2020 06:00:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: you'll be fine~
04-11-2020 06:01:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Sounds about right~
04-11-2020 06:03:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I mean....I've known a few...
04-11-2020 06:03:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: We had a physicist who just left in the middle of the day to go buy shoes without telling anyone. 
04-11-2020 06:04:15 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: And a doc who saw  a patient literally having a heart attack in the parking lot and refused to leave the building to help
04-11-2020 06:04:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: refused to leave her desk even
04-11-2020 06:06:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: The kind of compassion you want out of a fugging oncologist 
04-11-2020 06:06:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Christ. Yeah thats pretty bad.
04-11-2020 06:07:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, medical school isn't that good of a predictor of ones quality as a doctor, and so far no ones really been able to figure out a good metric for what is a good predictor.
04-11-2020 06:11:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Probably something akin to a sociopathy scale
04-11-2020 06:11:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: maybe testing in terms of WHY they want to be a doctor
04-11-2020 06:13:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, it always struck me as odd that med school selectrs for incrediblly copmteitive cutthroat personalities, who then are also supposed to be compasionate and empathetic people after spending 8 years of college and med school vying with each for slots.
04-11-2020 06:17:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: yeah nothing like building up brutality, arrogance, ego, and specific self aggrandizing traits in someone who is supposed to be a team leader who cooperates and listens
04-11-2020 06:17:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I actually read a book called...The woman with a worm in her head I think
04-11-2020 06:18:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: about parasitology and such
04-11-2020 06:18:10 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: and I got like 3 chapters in before I had to stop
04-11-2020 06:18:26 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Why?
04-11-2020 06:18:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: because the author was just so up her own ass about her talents and skills as a doctor and stories about how hard university was. 
04-11-2020 06:18:57 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh.
04-11-2020 06:19:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Which, to give you context
04-11-2020 06:19:18 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: the first case the book covered, the one thats supposed to drag you in
04-11-2020 06:20:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: was her looking at a friend's spouse who had been ill, taking some samples, sending them off to a foreign clinic, looking in a text book, and then relaying the info from the clinic 
04-11-2020 06:20:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I mean yeah, he had worms he got from cobra hearts which is weird
04-11-2020 06:20:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: but the actual case was very banal
04-11-2020 06:21:10 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Heh.
04-11-2020 06:22:12 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: It was about the time when she was bragging about her "Trained nose to sniff out gangrene" that I gave up
04-11-2020 06:22:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: You don't need a trained nose for Gangrene 
04-11-2020 06:22:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: you need A NOSE
04-11-2020 06:23:53 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, gangrene is pretty obvious.
04-11-2020 06:25:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Now I do know a micro proffesor who could tell the basic morphology of a bacteria by smelling it. Which was freaky.
04-11-2020 06:27:36 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But yeah, a lot of docs can be insufurable. But hey, there's only like a 20% chance I'll be truelly insufferable when I'm one :P
04-11-2020 06:27:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: You'll be fine
04-11-2020 06:28:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: You're a good one
04-11-2020 06:29:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Well, election seems to have stalled out 
04-11-2020 06:29:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: oh?
04-11-2020 06:29:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Been sitting at basically the same numbers a while
04-11-2020 06:30:35 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Do we just need to turn the country off and on again? That tends to fix things ~
04-11-2020 06:31:00 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I think some people are already trying to do that
04-11-2020 06:31:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Oh well, chances are we won't know anything for sure till tomorrow. Or later
04-11-2020 06:31:30 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah.
04-11-2020 06:31:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: thanks to mail ins and such
04-11-2020 06:31:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I don't think there are enough electoral votes in "safe" states to really call it now
04-11-2020 06:32:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I agree. It'll be intresting.
04-11-2020 06:33:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Apparently canadians are confused
04-11-2020 06:33:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: if reports from my northern neighbor family are to be believed
04-11-2020 06:34:08 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: they apparently thought biden would win easily
04-11-2020 06:34:22 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: They have far to much faith in the american populace~
04-11-2020 06:34:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But no, I don't think Biden was ever going to win easily.
04-11-2020 06:34:57 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I mean he's going against an incumbante after all.
04-11-2020 06:36:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: indeed
04-11-2020 06:36:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: plus he never struck me as the best candidate 
04-11-2020 06:36:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: he was made fun of a lot as the VP
04-11-2020 06:36:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: He's really just "Not trump"
04-11-2020 06:37:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: What I said is they should have got Obama to run as his vp
04-11-2020 06:38:07 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, but he's more moderate then most of the other canidates they had so he's harder to demonize.
04-11-2020 06:38:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Fair I suppose
04-11-2020 06:38:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: he's extremely tepid
04-11-2020 06:38:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: I mean, one of the big things we know about him is he likes vanilla ice cream
04-11-2020 06:38:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: shock
04-11-2020 06:38:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: horror
04-11-2020 06:39:03 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: scandal
04-11-2020 06:39:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Good thing that Hunter biden stuff only came out in the end when it was too late to really sway things
04-11-2020 06:39:42 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: For sure.
04-11-2020 06:41:15 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: But biden is just kinda like if you googled generic politican. It's hard to have a vehement reaction against someone who's very moderte and generic.
04-11-2020 06:41:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: He's extremely palatable. 
04-11-2020 06:41:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: palatable is an excellent descriptor of biden.
04-11-2020 06:42:03 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: he's a rice cracker after a bacon and oxycodone sandwich 
04-11-2020 06:42:14 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Hahahaha
04-11-2020 06:42:44 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: That actually made me laugh IRL.
04-11-2020 06:44:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: May we live in boring times
04-11-2020 06:45:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ordinarilly I'd say never, but a 4 year breather is always nice every now and then.
04-11-2020 06:48:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Lets make this fall of rome a tantric experience 
04-11-2020 06:48:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: really drag it out
04-11-2020 06:48:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: give our grand kids some real fun
04-11-2020 06:48:48 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Exactlly, it's only fun if you drag everyone else down with you.
04-11-2020 06:49:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Especially if you tell them what you're doing and they just can't stop it because of societal momentum 
04-11-2020 06:49:34 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Heh
04-11-2020 06:49:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Its a specific fetish, I grant you
04-11-2020 06:50:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: and it does take 80 years and an entire country to complete
04-11-2020 06:50:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: but if you succeed! 
04-11-2020 06:51:35 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Only took 80 years to climax, but totally worth it I'm sure.~
04-11-2020 06:52:31 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Piecewise played...well lets call it his fiddle...as america burned
04-11-2020 06:52:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: from a ivory throne of toilet paper
04-11-2020 06:53:18 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Sounds like a particuarlly dark episode of south park
04-11-2020 06:54:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: thus describes 2020
04-11-2020 06:55:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: in any case, its quite late for my old self so I think I'll turn in and see if there's still a country tomorrow
04-11-2020 06:55:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Hope I wake up alive!
04-11-2020 07:02:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Night dubs
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04-11-2020 13:15:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: Hmm
04-11-2020 13:15:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: country still here
04-11-2020 13:15:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@16-97-367-837.lsv7.qwest.net: No new presidient yet
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