08-09-2020 05:50:54 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko has joined #einsteinianroulette
08-09-2020 05:51:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Current feline payload in inventory: Two
08-09-2020 05:51:24 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: more cat
08-09-2020 05:53:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Oh, if you intend to make better rocket launchers for use with Valencite, don't buff power *and* payload.
08-09-2020 05:54:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Just one extra payload grade will give launchers that are equally as good as if they have an extra payload *and* power.
08-09-2020 05:54:45 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: well that's dumb
08-09-2020 05:55:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: But only when loaded with Valencite.
08-09-2020 05:55:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Though, with stabilized Valencite, this would mean they'd have D/D rockets.
08-09-2020 05:55:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Still range F, buuuut...
08-09-2020 05:56:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that's two Ds
08-09-2020 05:56:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: better than one
08-09-2020 05:56:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Double D catgirls, yes
08-09-2020 05:56:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: I support this wholeheartedly.
08-09-2020 05:58:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Do note that production cost of stabilized Valencite is 75 per three arty loads, and this would mean they have equivalent capacity to arty.  So 25 just in production cost, probably another 25 for the improved bang.
08-09-2020 05:58:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: ...By which I mean the D payload rockets.
08-09-2020 05:59:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Doing the arty cannon trick means you'd get C/C guns with D range, though *those* might cost 75 for the guns, and you need Stirk's exoskeletons as well.
08-09-2020 06:00:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Which puts them up to... what, 150?
08-09-2020 06:01:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: A bit more, since they need more valencite to get to C/C.  33% more, I think.
08-09-2020 06:02:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: This actually makes it sound worthwhile to just make two types of BIG RAWKET which we give to infantry platoons.
08-09-2020 06:05:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: I wonder if we could make a production thing that produces a set of high payload rifles, high payload rockets, and high payload mortars, all for 75-100 cost, making a fully outiftted infantry platoon with E/E, D/D, and D/D attacks cost 100 + 75 + 50 and two production turns.
08-09-2020 06:06:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Though really they'd be quite fragile for all that money.  Don't have the armor of tanks, or the range/speed of jets.
08-09-2020 06:23:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: heya.
08-09-2020 06:23:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: stupid minecraft videos
08-09-2020 06:23:36 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: how dare these be entertaining
08-09-2020 06:23:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: heya ER.
08-09-2020 06:23:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Yeah...
08-09-2020 06:24:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Dev, thoughts on my infantry gun theorizing?
08-09-2020 06:25:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: a power and payload upgrade to inf rockets with valencite is two power upgrades AND two AP upgrades with your proposed new kabooms.
08-09-2020 06:25:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: skipping the payload makes it 1 and 1.
08-09-2020 06:25:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Yeah.
08-09-2020 06:25:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Wait wait
08-09-2020 06:25:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: putting power above payload means you don't get the power bonus anymore.
08-09-2020 06:25:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Th
08-09-2020 06:26:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Dev, you have misunderstood what I said.
08-09-2020 06:26:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Infantry rockets are F/F/F/E.  Pow/AP/Range/Pay
08-09-2020 06:26:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: +1 Pow +1 pay makes them E/F/F/D
08-09-2020 06:26:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Ahh, whoops.
08-09-2020 06:26:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: thought they were F payload.
08-09-2020 06:27:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Add stabilized valencite, D/D/F/D
08-09-2020 06:27:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: ...Which is the same as F/F/F/D + stabilized valencite.
08-09-2020 06:28:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: I actually had thought they were F payload, too!
08-09-2020 06:28:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: But I checked my screenshot of the statlist, as I often do, and went "oh"
08-09-2020 06:29:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Let me check again.
08-09-2020 06:30:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Yes, E payload.
08-09-2020 06:30:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Overall it doesn't seem quite worthwhile to actually do the thing with buffing infantry weapons a whole ton, since it puts them into the same price range as jets while maintaining a lot of disagvantages.  Which is expected, I suppose; cost of infantry being med, jets being large.
08-09-2020 06:30:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: That said, I'm surprised at the potential.
08-09-2020 06:31:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: There's lots of choices.
08-09-2020 06:31:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: We wouldn't happen to be allowed to just *buy* mortars with D payload, would we?
08-09-2020 06:33:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: If you're okay with them being F/-/F/D, sure.
08-09-2020 06:33:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: can find you some recoilless rifles.
08-09-2020 06:33:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: That's not terrible, no.  Cost?
08-09-2020 06:34:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: 25 a batch.
08-09-2020 06:34:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Oh, hell.
08-09-2020 06:34:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Occupy weapon slot 3?
08-09-2020 06:41:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: sure.
08-09-2020 06:42:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: ..It's also slightly worse than just buying more artillery..
08-09-2020 06:42:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: True!
08-09-2020 06:43:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Basically it's just a bonus for infantey you'd deploy anyway.  Weak enough they probably won't be a priority target, strong enough that they might be able to end a very close battle.  And infantry are likely to survive, so it's a one-time cost upgrade.
08-09-2020 06:45:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Also it's actually cheaper than artillery if you consider that infantry are deployed *anyway*.  25 for guns, 25 for explosives, you get a D/E attack.  Arty is an E/F attack, increasing to D/D if you add in 25 cost for the explosives.  So 50 vs 75, and arty's advantages are +1 AP grade and +2 range grades.
08-09-2020 06:46:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: While having much *lower* durability.
08-09-2020 06:46:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: It's not a good idea to buy more infantry to add more guns, but it's fairly reasonable to add to infantry that you have anyway.
08-09-2020 06:47:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Assuming, of course, this doesn't mean you need to replace infantry a lot more often.  Which, to be fair, it probably does.
08-09-2020 06:48:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: If we made artillery producable as a [small] size weapon, how expensive would one gun be?
08-09-2020 06:50:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Heh.
08-09-2020 06:50:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Still 50.
08-09-2020 06:50:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Which makes these remarkably comparable, though artillery isn't as efficiently statted for use wirh valencite.
08-09-2020 06:51:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: The range is nice, though.
08-09-2020 06:57:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: These numbers really do work out remarkably well.  50 for exo, ~75 for E/E/D/C arty cannon, ~25 for valencite, 50 for inf.  Gets a C/C gun on a medium D body for 200.  Comparing to a jet, which should reach C/C with their other advantages around 250-275, it seems pretty straightforward.  50 more cost seems reasonable for the stat difference, accounting for the fact that jets are large while this gun is small.
08-09-2020 06:58:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: I'm *really* happy with Valencite.
08-09-2020 06:58:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: "These numbers really do work out remarkably well"
08-09-2020 06:59:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: :-D
08-09-2020 07:13:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: oh god, that splash invisibility potion is something
08-09-2020 07:36:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: "You know things are getting...interesting...when the undead have enough time to build siege weapons... "
08-09-2020 07:37:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Is that unusual?
08-09-2020 07:37:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: If the undead have the smarts for it, it seems very very likely that they
08-09-2020 07:37:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: 'll have the time.
08-09-2020 07:38:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: especially if they have a cool and attractive dark mage leading them
08-09-2020 07:42:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Something something black leather straps
08-09-2020 07:42:19 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yes
08-09-2020 07:42:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: "Duck Arsonists"
08-09-2020 07:55:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: God I hate this mobile firefox
08-09-2020 07:56:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: They updated it, now there's a back button to look at the previous page!
08-09-2020 07:56:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: how nice
08-09-2020 07:56:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: New issue discovered: When I finish typing in a password and click login, the page jumps a half inch and I click forgot password instead.
08-09-2020 07:57:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: At least for imgur.  Bay12, thankfully, does nothing until I tap again.
08-09-2020 07:57:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: And I *still* have to scroll to check if the click registered.
08-09-2020 07:57:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: I posted that link of the mozilla dev flipping off people for complaining about this, right?
08-09-2020 08:00:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: oh god, that's annoying.
08-09-2020 08:00:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: and yes.
08-09-2020 08:02:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: She set her twitter account to private, so I'm hoping that's a sign she got enough flak that they'll sack her.
08-09-2020 08:03:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: quite possible.
08-09-2020 08:03:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kingofdragonpass/images/f/f2/TarshDuckInterlude.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130313014755
08-09-2020 08:05:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: ...Huh.
08-09-2020 08:05:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: duckie! :)
08-09-2020 08:06:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: ducks stealing cows.
08-09-2020 08:06:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: So that's what's happening.
08-09-2020 08:08:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Pretty much.
08-09-2020 08:13:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: the ducks are very amusing.
08-09-2020 08:14:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kingofdragonpass/images/c/c0/DuckWarriors.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130316014657
08-09-2020 08:16:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Never been a fan of ducks.
08-09-2020 08:17:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Waterfowl are still fowl.
08-09-2020 08:17:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Fuuuuck how did I mess that up?
08-09-2020 08:17:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: "are still foul" >.<
08-09-2020 08:26:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: watched all the videos, now I should probably go to sleep or something
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08-09-2020 09:02:42 -!- MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli has joined #einsteinianroulette
08-09-2020 09:02:55 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: lo
08-09-2020 09:02:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: oh, hey MJ.
08-09-2020 09:03:14 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: hiya dev
08-09-2020 09:03:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I can't sleep, so I thought I'd hop on for a bit
08-09-2020 09:04:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: well, new Dream minecraft manhunt video.
08-09-2020 09:05:01 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I saw havent watched it, but it looks intresting
08-09-2020 09:05:59 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: oh hey a syv
08-09-2020 09:07:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Hello.
08-09-2020 09:07:27 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: how're you?
08-09-2020 09:07:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Meh.
08-09-2020 09:09:58 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Would not recommend shoulder surgery. Not being able to sleep is a bitch.
08-09-2020 09:10:44 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Also good song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcI8sfwxvIs
08-09-2020 09:10:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Yeah, having a broken shoulder is so much more fun.
08-09-2020 09:12:43 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Hush. It was only partially dislocated and all the tendons torn up.
08-09-2020 09:13:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: ouch.
08-09-2020 09:13:45 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yeah, turns out you shouldn't ignore shoulder pain for a year.
08-09-2020 09:14:22 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: On the plus side I get some cool scars to add to my collection.
08-09-2020 09:14:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Nifty.
08-09-2020 09:14:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Also, MJ, what's in this picture?
08-09-2020 09:14:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kingofdragonpass/images/f/f2/TarshDuckInterlude.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130313014755
08-09-2020 09:15:56 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: It looks early iron/bronze age duck human relations have broken down.
08-09-2020 09:16:04 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ^like
08-09-2020 09:16:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: That's surprisingly accurate.
08-09-2020 09:16:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: well done.
08-09-2020 09:16:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh. What is it?
08-09-2020 09:17:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Ducks stealing cows from a iron age clan.
08-09-2020 09:17:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Although here's when they really have broken down.
08-09-2020 09:18:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kingofdragonpass/images/5/54/DuckArsonists.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130316011149
08-09-2020 09:18:14 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Yup.
08-09-2020 09:19:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kingofdragonpass/images/7/7a/DuckWarParty.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130314174722
08-09-2020 09:20:16 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Thats a cool looking war party. Armors not the most accurate, but cool.
08-09-2020 09:20:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Although you aren't forced to be hostile with the ducks.
08-09-2020 09:20:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kingofdragonpass/images/8/86/Duck_delegation.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130107080803
08-09-2020 09:20:49 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: What are all of these from?
08-09-2020 09:21:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: A relatively obscure game.
08-09-2020 09:22:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: https://lparchive.org/King-of-Dragon-Pass-%28by-Haifisch%29/
08-09-2020 09:22:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Also, sometimes other clans don't like it when they see you as too friendly with the ducks.
08-09-2020 09:22:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kingofdragonpass/images/4/4f/TarredFeatheredBilled.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130313014242
08-09-2020 09:23:41 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Tgats a  lot of exstensive art. I like it. I've always thought iron age stuff is neat.
08-09-2020 09:24:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: well, feel free to play it.
08-09-2020 09:24:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: and remember, don't mix up Elmal and Eurmal.
08-09-2020 09:24:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: https://lparchive.org/King-of-Dragon-Pass-(by-Haifisch)/Images/15-64rPb.png
08-09-2020 09:24:52 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh
08-09-2020 09:25:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: I'm not kidding.  Eurmal is the heroic trickster god.
08-09-2020 09:25:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Elmal?
08-09-2020 09:25:59 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: wait really? The back half of the horse/
08-09-2020 09:26:02 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: ^?
08-09-2020 09:26:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: standard horse god of protection kinda thing.
08-09-2020 09:26:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: is Elmal.
08-09-2020 09:26:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: Eurmal is a horse's ass.  ;-p
08-09-2020 09:27:05 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: heh
08-09-2020 09:35:46 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Alright. I'm gonna try sleep again.
08-09-2020 09:35:50 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Night gents
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08-09-2020 11:00:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: "It's incredibly rare for a new tricksters to pop up, so if you don't get a Trickster in your initial nobles, don't count on ever getting one. Why are Tricksters so rare? Simple: They're assholes. They worship the trickster god Eurmal, and take glee in fucking up everything around them. Very few clans will put up with them for long. Of course, if you get one on the ring, then you have an...
08-09-2020 11:00:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: ...asshole who tends to be slightly more focused on fucking up other clans than on you. They also let you put an extra point of magic into Quests at sacred time, which is incredibly powerful - Heroquests are dangerous, so you want all the help you can get."
08-09-2020 11:03:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: What's the downside?
08-09-2020 11:04:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.shm.uko: Also, I'd think they'd *commonly* pop up, since they get ousted from clans often.  Assholes rapidly become vagrants.
08-09-2020 11:15:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: The downside is they cause problems to you sometimes.
08-09-2020 11:16:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: and they're not common because they have to be identified at 15, and then dedicate their lives to being assholes.
08-09-2020 11:22:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@xubm-9t0ka7tw5eyr6uxvnycxq5052.ipv4.telus.net: And if you keep them around, they'll continue being assholes for the next fifty years, because Trickster worshippers are blessed with long lives.
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