18-08-2020 00:03:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: heya IronyOwl
18-08-2020 00:04:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: a mad scientist using your facilities will funtion like a normal mad scientist.
18-08-2020 00:04:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: irony, dev says he's giving me more money
18-08-2020 00:04:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: If you have something you want them to mad science up, they will do so.
18-08-2020 00:04:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: They can also make a one-turn project like an ordinary mad scientist if it's empty.
18-08-2020 00:05:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: If you have an ongoing reserach project, they will accelerate it like a mad scientist instead of a normal researcher.
18-08-2020 00:05:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: would need the right size lab, right?
18-08-2020 00:05:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: In all cases, the product will be somewhat mad sciency.
18-08-2020 00:06:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: As for the gate thing, there is no indication that you need anything at all to go through the wake in the other direction after the kaiju enters the world.  Going back seems to be the hard part.
18-08-2020 00:06:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, but you need the right size lab to lab a project in any case.
18-08-2020 00:06:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so there's nothing new there.
18-08-2020 00:07:40 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: can I have a mad scientist tear the missiles off my jet and then mess with them in a small
18-08-2020 00:07:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Catgirls are 7x muscle, 4x guts.
18-08-2020 00:07:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: S T R O N K
18-08-2020 00:07:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: oh, absolutely a mad scientist can do that.
18-08-2020 00:08:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Although jet misiles are too big to be a small.
18-08-2020 00:08:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Might as well follow suit as with the tank and call them one size smaller.
18-08-2020 00:08:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: [medium]
18-08-2020 00:08:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: A small would be something like your technical laser cannon.
18-08-2020 00:08:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or an arty piece.
18-08-2020 00:09:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: a mad scientist can totally work with that as a gun in one turn.  In truth, since those are basically just laser cannons on trucks, I'd be okay with you making just the weapon if you want, too.
18-08-2020 00:09:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: They're just a cannon on the free truck chassis, so..
18-08-2020 00:09:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: making just the cannon seems fine.
18-08-2020 00:13:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so no IronyOwl
18-08-2020 00:53:28 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: I'm back
18-08-2020 00:53:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: prod
18-08-2020 00:56:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: heya.
18-08-2020 00:56:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Questions are above.
18-08-2020 00:56:54 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: don't mad scientists have buildings that benefit their research?
18-08-2020 00:56:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but yeah, you need a rectifier built into something to communicate back from the kaiju dimension.
18-08-2020 00:57:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yes, but they also are mad scientists.
18-08-2020 00:57:20 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: so would they benefit from those buildings while building stuff in my buildings instead?
18-08-2020 00:57:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: They would benefit from the one you can have, a High Energy Physics lab.
18-08-2020 00:57:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but they are mad scientists without one, too.
18-08-2020 00:58:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: they don't benefit from the ones at their base.
18-08-2020 01:00:58 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: do most MS's have one in their base?
18-08-2020 01:01:09 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: IIRC theirs was cheaper and part of a stacking upgrade system
18-08-2020 01:01:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: stupid HEL is too expensiv
18-08-2020 01:02:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: yeah
18-08-2020 01:02:14 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: much better to pay supernerds to design things for me
18-08-2020 01:02:19 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: if I can wrangle any
18-08-2020 01:02:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you can't
18-08-2020 01:02:27 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: they're like cats in labcoats
18-08-2020 01:02:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that's the joke
18-08-2020 01:02:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: All mad scientists start with one.
18-08-2020 01:02:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: they're there, but we can't use them because they're player-controlled
18-08-2020 01:02:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: do note that if someone left a base once, they can do so a second time during the same month at no additional cost.
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18-08-2020 01:08:26 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: I appear to have conked out briefly after asking about MS upkeep
18-08-2020 01:08:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Last line I typed was
18-08-2020 01:08:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: do note that if someone left a base once, they can do so a second time during the same month at no additional cost.
18-08-2020 01:08:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but I didn't see any question following that.
18-08-2020 01:10:22 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: does a mad scientist working in my lab need to pay upkeep?
18-08-2020 01:11:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yes.  That counts as a mad scientist leaving base.
18-08-2020 01:11:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: you also need to pay the 20 bucks for the actual research.
18-08-2020 01:13:43 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: someone was saying their upkeep was 150 now, so unless that's a hard outlier it'll probably be cheaper to buy an MS a sufficiently hueg lab
18-08-2020 01:14:02 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: does upgrading their lab size take one turn per step?
18-08-2020 01:14:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yes.  Every building a MS makes takes only one turn.
18-08-2020 01:14:44 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: but they can't skip from small to giant, they've got to go small->medium on one turn, medium->large on the next turn, and so on?
18-08-2020 01:14:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but they need to spend a turn with an empty lab to design a hueg one in it, too.
18-08-2020 01:14:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and yes.
18-08-2020 01:15:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: one step each phase.
18-08-2020 01:15:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: you guys can theoretically build as much as you have cash for at once.
18-08-2020 01:16:33 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: hmmmm, needing to clear their current project outta there is gonna be another difficult to fill requirement...
18-08-2020 01:17:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: that's the main issue with coordinating, really..
18-08-2020 01:17:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: always seems like they have some junk in there, and they can only have one lab, sans Igor.
18-08-2020 01:18:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and I hate to say it, but yeah, that's intentional.
18-08-2020 01:19:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: oh yeah
18-08-2020 01:19:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: whisperling started a little mad scientist game on discord
18-08-2020 01:20:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: new one?  Heh, sounds interesting.
18-08-2020 01:20:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: competitive, cooperative.. ?
18-08-2020 01:20:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: take over the world!
18-08-2020 01:21:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and why would you want to share with anybody else
18-08-2020 01:22:18 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: btw, what are the kaiju muscle samples in my main inventory?
18-08-2020 01:22:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: The processed material that goes into projects.
18-08-2020 01:23:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: oh god, Whisperling does NOT want me playing that.
18-08-2020 01:23:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Trust me.
18-08-2020 01:23:23 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: eeeeeh?
18-08-2020 01:23:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'll call the stuff you get from battles 'chunks'
18-08-2020 01:23:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: battles produce chunks.
18-08-2020 01:23:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: chunks -> kaiju lab -> samples.
18-08-2020 01:23:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: samples go in projects.
18-08-2020 01:24:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: they're what you usually send people.
18-08-2020 01:24:33 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: well, I have x2 muscle samples and also x2 processed muscle a bit lower down the list :p
18-08-2020 01:24:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: giv
18-08-2020 01:25:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: must construct hot buff catgirls
18-08-2020 01:25:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: you had your mooscles, you squandered them!
18-08-2020 01:25:24 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: or just ate them and then needed even more!
18-08-2020 01:25:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: they're not squandered, they're beautiful
18-08-2020 01:25:40 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: what was it, x7 muscle and x4 guts?
18-08-2020 01:25:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: the hunger will never abate, my friend
18-08-2020 01:26:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and better sords
18-08-2020 01:36:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Back to extinction.
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18-08-2020 01:36:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: 22:16:51 IronyOwl: I'm starting to think syvarris was right
18-08-2020 01:36:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Well duh
18-08-2020 01:37:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: oh, it's you
18-08-2020 01:37:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ...so
18-08-2020 01:37:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: 00:08:07 Devastator: Although jet misiles are too big to be a small.
18-08-2020 01:37:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: 00:08:32 Devastator: Might as well follow suit as with the tank and call them one size smaller.
18-08-2020 01:38:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: yeah.
18-08-2020 01:38:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Does this mean that if I try to buff jet power/ap/range, I won't get the benefit of large size?
18-08-2020 01:38:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Nah, you're fine.
18-08-2020 01:38:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'm only talking about the default missiles.
18-08-2020 01:38:39 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: how strong would a minor cost MB 4 be? Could I sever one of the walkways?
18-08-2020 01:39:11 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: so my current temptation is to clad my sub in camouflage kaiju skin, give it a kaiju muscle engine/propeller to silently boost its speed, and arm it with the largest kaiju acid-laden torpedo/missile a Giant submarine can hold
18-08-2020 01:39:29 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: it then lurks off the coast, and when the kaiju lands, nails it with an armor-shredding alpha strike
18-08-2020 01:39:44 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: thoughts?
18-08-2020 01:39:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: me?
18-08-2020 01:39:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I don't think, dummy
18-08-2020 01:40:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: sounds like fun.
18-08-2020 01:40:50 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: for us or the kaiju? :D
18-08-2020 01:40:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also I need to hoard all the muscle
18-08-2020 01:41:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: (ER) how strong would a minor cost MB 4 be? Could I sever one of the walkways?
18-08-2020 01:41:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: IIRC MB 4 is AMR.
18-08-2020 01:41:19 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: thank you for reminding me I need to buy another infantry platoon
18-08-2020 01:41:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: So no.
18-08-2020 01:41:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: updated Extinction.
18-08-2020 01:41:28 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: bastards keep getting themselves killed under my command!
18-08-2020 01:41:34 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: makes me look bad, you know
18-08-2020 01:41:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: MB 4 cheap is an AMR, I'm asking about minor
18-08-2020 01:41:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: need those nuke launchers.  ;-p
18-08-2020 01:42:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Aww.
18-08-2020 01:42:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: So no.
18-08-2020 01:42:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: 0
18-08-2020 01:43:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Wizard school was hoping Paris would teach them that if they truly had no magic they'd be awesome anti-magic soldiers, so they must have some magic.  ;-p
18-08-2020 01:43:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: what?
18-08-2020 01:44:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: paris's orders are basically convince them that they don't need to have magic to do magic, which is kinda aww, IMO.
18-08-2020 01:44:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Sorry.
18-08-2020 01:48:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: (IronyOwl) so my current temptation is to clad my sub in camouflage kaiju skin, give it a kaiju muscle engine/propeller to silently boost its speed, and arm it with the largest kaiju acid-laden torpedo/missile a Giant submarine can hold
18-08-2020 01:48:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: (IronyOwl) it then lurks off the coast, and when the kaiju lands, nails it with an armor-shredding alpha strike
18-08-2020 01:48:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: (IronyOwl) thoughts?
18-08-2020 01:48:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Good as long as you're using mad science and you have an escape plan.
18-08-2020 01:49:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Mad science means less infrastructure, escape plan means you aren't investing a bunch of money into winning one battle.
18-08-2020 01:49:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Having one shot should be a buff to research ease, though I'm not totally sure how much.
18-08-2020 01:49:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: on a giant chassis it'll be pretty nice.
18-08-2020 01:50:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Some of what Dev's said has implied that flaws give linear bonuses, rather than relative.
18-08-2020 01:50:33 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: and to clarify, I'd only need to spend kaiju acid arming such a thing once?
18-08-2020 01:50:43 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: I wouldn't need more acid for each torpedo/missile thing?
18-08-2020 01:50:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Correct to my understanding,yes.
18-08-2020 01:51:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Payload is a permanent buff.
18-08-2020 01:51:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: [21:42] <syv> So no.
18-08-2020 01:51:25 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: [21:42] <syv> 0
18-08-2020 01:51:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Could you send me one unit of the acid?  I can get info on how it affects stats that way, i think.
18-08-2020 01:51:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I don't understand
18-08-2020 01:51:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: The 0 was a mistake.
18-08-2020 01:52:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: The no was saying you can't destroy the walkway with a cheap manabolt.
18-08-2020 01:52:13 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: I can send you a unit of acid, sure
18-08-2020 01:52:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I was asking about a minor though
18-08-2020 01:55:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: OKAY.
18-08-2020 01:55:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: So, payloads.
18-08-2020 01:55:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: F
18-08-2020 01:56:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: My experimental explosives give +1 power if payload brade is equal or one higher than power grade.
18-08-2020 01:56:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: So if a unit has F power, and F (or E) payload, adding explosives gives it E Power.
18-08-2020 01:57:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: If a unit has two higher payload, or more, adding explosives gives it +2 power.  So a unit with F power, and D payload, will have D power after being given explosives.
18-08-2020 01:57:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: All payloads seem to vary in effect depending on how much payload grade units have.
18-08-2020 01:58:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: If I get one unit of acid, I can tell what effects it'll have at varying payloads, which is why I asked.
18-08-2020 01:58:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: minor cost is, to be clear, one stage higher than cheap cost
18-08-2020 01:59:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: have you experimented with higher than E power to see if the pattern holds?
18-08-2020 01:59:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Apparently it can also be used like KBits, being added to research to accelerate it, at the cost of needing more acid to manufacture the units.  I have no info how this works beyond it being similar to KBit mechanics, and getting some acid won't help this at all.
18-08-2020 01:59:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Nah, I've been told that's just straight up how it works regardless.  Should be the same for A power with S+ payload.
18-08-2020 02:00:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: mmm, well, if you two agree I could let you know the results now, Syv.
18-08-2020 02:00:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: I'd like that.  Up to Irony.
18-08-2020 02:01:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Oh, units need more than one unit of payload to get the buff.
18-08-2020 02:01:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but you do have to send the unit over.
18-08-2020 02:01:16 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: yep, sounds good
18-08-2020 02:01:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: 2 units per payload grade early on, I think it needs more at high payloads.
18-08-2020 02:01:33 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: er, what's a "unit" of payload?
18-08-2020 02:01:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Uhh.
18-08-2020 02:01:48 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: errrr as in consternation, not er as in nekobutcher snake oil salesman
18-08-2020 02:02:12 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: I'll go ahead and send the acid this turn, let's hear the results!
18-08-2020 02:02:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: You should've gotten some number of acid units.  Like "6x acid" or something like that.
18-08-2020 02:03:01 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: oh, yeah
18-08-2020 02:03:04 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: x11, in this case
18-08-2020 02:03:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Awesome, then.
18-08-2020 02:03:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Arty and Jets use 6 units, so you have juuust barely too little to buff two D grade payload units.
18-08-2020 02:04:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: But could buff up to a B payload, I think?  I forget if B starts needing more than ten.
18-08-2020 02:04:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Oh, he answered.
18-08-2020 02:04:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: "(Devastator) Kaiju acid gives an abnormal result.  How it works raw doesn't fit into the normal stat system."
18-08-2020 02:06:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Okay.  So, it adds a DoT effect to the attack.  It'll both do more damage per turn, and last for more turns, if it's on a unit with high payload (more than E).  It also buffs AP, but not by directly modifying the grade, it's just a flat boost.
18-08-2020 02:06:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: So it seems like an F AP unit with B Payload would get the same amount of bonus AP as a C AP unit with B Payload, which is unusual.
18-08-2020 02:07:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: The way the two interact with each other is funny so that is true the way you have it written down, but in practice the C AP unit would realize more bonus.
18-08-2020 02:08:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but it's more linear than a grade bonus would be.
18-08-2020 02:08:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Okay.
18-08-2020 02:08:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: So it sounds like this means you don't want to give any units aside from your sub acid.
18-08-2020 02:09:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 11 units would be enough to fill a SAM launcher.
18-08-2020 02:09:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: C payload takes 9 units, and B takes 14, so you can't benefit from more than C payload.
18-08-2020 02:09:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It's not quite enough to arm two arty pieces or jets.
18-08-2020 02:10:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Which will leave you two left over, so... could buff infantry rockets.  Or a GMG.  Neither is really useful.
18-08-2020 02:10:34 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: hm
18-08-2020 02:10:51 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: do they have to deal damage for the DoT to hit?
18-08-2020 02:10:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: No clue!  Dev?
18-08-2020 02:11:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: I'd think that aspect might make smaller units worth arming
18-08-2020 02:12:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Oh, he said the damage scales linearly.
18-08-2020 02:12:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: So arty rockets will deal ~1/4 Damage of what your sub would do, but for fewer turns.
18-08-2020 02:12:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: No, like WP, the DoT effect will happen even if the shot tinks.
18-08-2020 02:12:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: although it is possible for a kaiju to tink the DoT.
18-08-2020 02:12:56 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: huh
18-08-2020 02:13:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You've tanked a couple of acid hits yourself that have still faced the damage over time effect.
18-08-2020 02:13:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: My guess is, that's worse than it sounds, because bigger hits are more likely to break through armor.  The white phosphorus that was floating around mechanically acted like a unit firing an -/F (?) attack for a few rounds after the rocket hit.  Which means "did basically nothing".
18-08-2020 02:13:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: ...I said arty rockets.  Meant inf rockets.
18-08-2020 02:14:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I will say that the damage over time effect for most weapons should be significantly better than that.
18-08-2020 02:14:29 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: hm, so it's possible that the acid would do better on multiple repeatedly-firing units
18-08-2020 02:14:43 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: but it's fairly certain that big hits are more useful in general, especially early on
18-08-2020 02:14:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I must say that I'm really quite uninterested in all this
18-08-2020 02:14:59 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: that's why you get no muscle~! >:D
18-08-2020 02:15:04 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@hz60-6-96-87.sd.sd.cox.net: > : D
18-08-2020 02:15:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Yes, Irony.
18-08-2020 02:20:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Oh.  I have really low cash.
18-08-2020 02:20:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Jets cost too much.  :(
18-08-2020 02:21:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: you may wish to consider scrapping one of your workshops.
18-08-2020 02:21:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: Oh, I have.
18-08-2020 02:21:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@gjyoec-756-267-277-266.mycingular.net: We'll see.
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18-08-2020 02:34:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: ...ER, why do you want to blow up the walkway?
18-08-2020 02:35:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: If I break all four, water won't be fed into the whirl anymore, which is maybe good pending further investigation or insight
18-08-2020 02:36:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also, why not break stuff?  ;-p
18-08-2020 02:37:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Well, my initial mental image was her shooting at the walkway she's standing on.
18-08-2020 02:37:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Which seems counterproductive, if he already decided that he didn't want to jump.
18-08-2020 02:48:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: take the plunge, you won't die
18-08-2020 02:51:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Oh god damn it.
18-08-2020 02:51:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ?
18-08-2020 02:51:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: I turned off the oven, that's why the steak stopped cooking.
18-08-2020 02:52:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: thunk
18-08-2020 02:52:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: That would stand to reason, yes.
18-08-2020 02:52:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I should update extinction again.
18-08-2020 02:54:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Oh yeah, severing the walkway with a minor would need a joy roll I'd say.
18-08-2020 02:55:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Try two minors or a moderate to guarantee success.
18-08-2020 02:55:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Or have Ada help you hold the gun.
18-08-2020 02:55:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: two minors or a moderate, eh? I wonder which one of those is less :thinking:
18-08-2020 02:55:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Or incite yourself?
18-08-2020 02:56:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: ...Why am I thinking for you?  Nevermind.
18-08-2020 02:56:46 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: please think for me, I have no brian
18-08-2020 02:57:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: updated.
18-08-2020 02:57:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: hockey time.
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18-08-2020 04:00:11 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: happy midnight everyone!
18-08-2020 04:00:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: woooo tuesday
18-08-2020 04:01:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Woooo!
18-08-2020 04:01:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: I need to wake up in eight hours and drive out.
18-08-2020 04:02:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Today is gonna suck.  :)
18-08-2020 04:02:47 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: such is life
18-08-2020 04:16:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: heh.
18-08-2020 04:28:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: ER: I just posted costs of explosives.  I'd be happy if you could afford the explosives for your own jet, but honestly I'll just give you the boom anyway because it's such a big upgrade.
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18-08-2020 04:30:35 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: lo
18-08-2020 04:31:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: hi
18-08-2020 04:31:32 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: how're people?
18-08-2020 04:31:36 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: wi
18-08-2020 04:32:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: strange
18-08-2020 04:32:42 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: I see
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18-08-2020 04:37:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Wow.
18-08-2020 04:38:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: I feel like that drive by should get some kind of award.
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18-08-2020 04:38:56 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli hands MidJag a medal
18-08-2020 04:39:03 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: eh?
18-08-2020 04:39:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: It's made from tungsten.
18-08-2020 04:39:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Don't question it.  Just be proud of yourself.
18-08-2020 04:39:52 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Alright.
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18-08-2020 05:22:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: hey MJ.
18-08-2020 05:23:03 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: hiya dev.
18-08-2020 05:23:20 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: how're you?
18-08-2020 05:23:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ok.
18-08-2020 05:23:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: a bit cheesed.
18-08-2020 05:23:38 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: oh?
18-08-2020 05:23:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: disappointed I didn't do the money update in k-com this turn, like I was supposed to.
18-08-2020 05:23:57 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Ah.
18-08-2020 05:24:31 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Well, I'm gonna go try and get some sleep. I find out my MCAT results tommorow.
18-08-2020 05:25:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.wus.mli: Nightie night.
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18-08-2020 23:24:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iqtw-5n9yc4cj1eym1hltpd7i7cgg1.ipv6.telus.net: mmm, bouncing.
18-08-2020 23:24:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: boing
18-08-2020 23:24:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iqtw-5n9yc4cj1eym1hltpd7i7cgg1.ipv6.telus.net: looks like success in Cabal.
18-08-2020 23:40:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iqtw-5n9yc4cj1eym1hltpd7i7cgg1.ipv6.telus.net: updooted Extinction.