26-05-2020 00:47:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: ok
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26-05-2020 01:42:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: heya er
26-05-2020 01:42:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: <3
26-05-2020 01:49:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: well, words are interesting.
26-05-2020 01:49:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: useful but short on animals.
26-05-2020 02:09:21 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@76.4.rzl.ijk: Is it bad that I probably convinced some guy on twitter that Genies exist?
26-05-2020 02:09:37 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: define bad
26-05-2020 02:09:49 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@76.4.rzl.ijk: good point
26-05-2020 02:10:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: seems as good as anything.
26-05-2020 02:10:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: I mean, these days..
26-05-2020 02:10:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: what's the signifigence of being left over 60 mana?
26-05-2020 02:10:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: I'd assume rolls to contain it, but with +5 end I'd expect 60 is can't-fail.
26-05-2020 02:12:23 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: he said in discord today that your max is endurance times 10
26-05-2020 02:12:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: which would put mine at... 250 :P
26-05-2020 02:13:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also that you can hold more than that but it's unhealthy
26-05-2020 02:13:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: yeah, just insane.
26-05-2020 02:26:56 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: technical horizantal wolf sounds amazing
26-05-2020 02:27:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: giant wolf cavalry with an HMG mount
26-05-2020 02:27:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: it's an idea, yes.
26-05-2020 02:27:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: she's probably strong enough to do it.
26-05-2020 02:32:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Well, you can find the armory if you just run through the base really fast and have a decent Cre
26-05-2020 02:33:27 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Wolf is unreasonably fast, and Sophia is the only one in the group with decent Cre, so the plan is obvious.
26-05-2020 02:43:36 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Hmm, is Refuge always an easy escape from labrynths?
26-05-2020 03:14:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: "70-80 planets worth of karma"
26-05-2020 03:14:36 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: as yes. foc ourse.
26-05-2020 03:17:39 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: convoluted observation inbound:
26-05-2020 03:18:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: both PM3 and eva end with the main character bacon eggs dogs. One of them ends a lot better than the other.
26-05-2020 03:18:46 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: probably because meguca isn't a huge piece of shit. Now, whaty's that?
26-05-2020 03:19:08 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: "a loving father figure is the best protection against chaos."
26-05-2020 03:19:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: end convoluted observation.
26-05-2020 04:18:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: mmm.
26-05-2020 04:18:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: yes, but she's much more influenced by drunk mother.
26-05-2020 04:19:07 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: that probably counts
26-05-2020 04:25:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: mmm.
26-05-2020 04:25:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: any suggestion on what artifact(s) to take?
26-05-2020 04:27:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: nope!
26-05-2020 04:28:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: ok.
26-05-2020 04:28:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: any words suggestion?
26-05-2020 04:51:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Ahh, OotS
26-05-2020 04:52:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: "Armoured boots, regular boots, ridiculous little wizard slippers, and proper bare halfling feet."
26-05-2020 04:52:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Also, I think belkar took ranks in Survival!
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26-05-2020 06:41:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: The big gulf between Incel and Pink Jesus is definitely Pink Jesus' idyllic home life, yes.
26-05-2020 06:41:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Good parenting OP.
26-05-2020 06:42:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: I highly recommend Readers Digest.
26-05-2020 06:43:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: And thst conversation Dubs had about Jinns existing is pretty great.
26-05-2020 06:44:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: https://mobile.twitter.com/Truth98112371/status/1265102051924533248
26-05-2020 06:45:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: thanks I hate it
26-05-2020 06:48:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also, hi
26-05-2020 06:49:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: mmm.
26-05-2020 06:49:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Yes, certainly helps.
26-05-2020 06:49:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'm not quite sure that I comprehend your suggestion for cover rules, but then I did read them just after waking up
26-05-2020 06:51:00 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: for context, my plan is to mostly just assume cover is present and make that the default, because I'd rather not think too hard about positioning and stuff
26-05-2020 06:51:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Seems about 45 degrees from normal.
26-05-2020 06:51:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: not a bad convo.
26-05-2020 06:51:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: in that context is some weapon or stratedgy works well when cover is present, then that thing will be very good, because cover will tend to be present.
26-05-2020 06:52:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: One thing I could do is have no point shot penalty for shooting someone out of cover, sort of like xcom giving bonuses to crit flanked enemies
26-05-2020 06:52:39 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also
26-05-2020 06:52:47 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: why am I ER and not Nyarlathotep
26-05-2020 06:52:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: did it not save my settings
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26-05-2020 06:59:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Yeah, it's a classic syv suggestion.
26-05-2020 06:59:21 < Devastator_!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: ..what?
26-05-2020 06:59:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Basically, you're always in one of two states.  Hiding, or overwatching.
26-05-2020 07:00:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: If you're hiding, you get full benefit of cover (whatever that is) but when you shoot, you have to count as moving.  So you get the move penalty added to your shot DC.
26-05-2020 07:00:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: If you're overwatching, you lose cover's benefit, but you get advantage on control rolls and your attacks can interrupt other people's attacks.
26-05-2020 07:01:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: If someone is targeted with autofire, they cannot overwatch.
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26-05-2020 07:01:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: It's... fairly flawed really.
26-05-2020 07:02:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: How about... no penalty to point shot targets out of cover, autofire cancels supression.
26-05-2020 07:03:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: That will encourage you to use autofire to support someone else who moves up and takes out the enemy
26-05-2020 07:03:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Point shooting targets is an undefined benefit, and the penalty doesn't really affect inaccurate guns since they already have drastic point shot penalties.
26-05-2020 07:04:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: I'm not sure what you mean by "autofire cancels suppression"
26-05-2020 07:05:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Also, FWIW, letting me touch your CQB systems increasingly feels like a mistake.  Tactihell worked fine and was fun, and I wasn
26-05-2020 07:05:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: 't involved with that.
26-05-2020 07:06:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Also, yesterday I was contemplating having to-hit rolls with firearms having one skill roll and one dispersion roll, so that shotgun pellets and similar could roll multiples of dispersion without skill affecting them.
26-05-2020 07:06:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: with tactihell I basically ignored the giant doc of unorganized rules I made, and then burned out by trying to follow them once.
26-05-2020 07:06:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: All of my good system design skills go right out the window when we talk about guns.
26-05-2020 07:06:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Ahh.
26-05-2020 07:07:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: This system has 13 stats for guns.
26-05-2020 07:07:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: guns guns guns.
26-05-2020 07:07:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: wow.
26-05-2020 07:07:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: everyone knows that if you aim a shotgun gooder its despersion is less
26-05-2020 07:07:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Time to re-zero isn't necessary.
26-05-2020 07:07:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: That was after he talked me down a lot, BTW.
26-05-2020 07:08:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Also, Dev, you joke, but that is actually something I effectively had, spread over multiple stats.
26-05-2020 07:08:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: I at one point had considered adding bore axis offset too.
26-05-2020 07:09:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Taking my advice with guns is a bad idea.
26-05-2020 07:09:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ahh, okay, I looked at your suggestion, and I think I understand it
26-05-2020 07:09:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: my mind just sees "add move penalty when firing normally in the normal situation" and screams BEGONE JANK!
26-05-2020 07:10:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: and I feel like overwatch shouldn't be the default move instead of shoot normally because shooting normall is normal!
26-05-2020 07:10:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: There kinda needs to be a way to prevent adding the move penalty because otherwise SMGs are godly.
26-05-2020 07:11:08 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: SMGs ARE god
26-05-2020 07:11:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: don't deny it ;p
26-05-2020 07:11:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: My God is the Gun
26-05-2020 07:11:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also, the point shot benefit is defined. If a human takes 4 or more damage to the dead, they fuckin die
26-05-2020 07:12:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: :\
26-05-2020 07:12:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also, I forgot that perception is a stat until you mentioned it
26-05-2020 07:13:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I might just... rename that to Intuition and make Intuition not a skill. >.>
26-05-2020 07:13:28 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: because Intu is pretty important with the exploration mechanics
26-05-2020 07:13:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Probably a good plan.
26-05-2020 07:14:40 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: six stats, eight skills. Sounds balanced-ish
26-05-2020 07:14:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: If I shoot someone in the head twice with 2 damage, does that count as a kill?
26-05-2020 07:14:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: probably!
26-05-2020 07:15:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Okay.  Maybe the point shot balance thing will work nicely.
26-05-2020 07:15:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: see? just have faith in me~
26-05-2020 07:17:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: well, I don't really tend to take your advice, but I do send you my gun systems because the ways in which you're wrong do help me think some things out. :V
26-05-2020 07:17:23 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: such as, for example, reinding me that Perception exists!
26-05-2020 07:17:38 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Stealth isn't an opposed roll, by the way.
26-05-2020 07:17:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: That makes me feel a little better.
26-05-2020 07:17:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Unless you're hiding from someone who's looking for you, I guess?
26-05-2020 07:18:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: I thought it might not be, but I figured it should be mentioned.
26-05-2020 07:18:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: I'm looking at the gun spreadsheet and I'm confused how I made the Customized AR15 almost a straight upgrade over the Dragunov.
26-05-2020 07:19:09 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I was planning on having only Acremanian firearms available. Is the not-P90 one of those?
26-05-2020 07:19:52 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: And also, would it be appropriate for all of the acremenian pistols and SMGs have attachable supressors?
26-05-2020 07:19:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: There's not really any Not-P90 in the game, though the N0 basically uses 5.7x28
26-05-2020 07:20:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Heh.
26-05-2020 07:21:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: You can attach a suppressor to literally anything.  Only the smaller pistol, the N42 Lone, would be fully effective without penalty.
26-05-2020 07:21:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: grenade launchers?
26-05-2020 07:21:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: a spigot mortar?
26-05-2020 07:22:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: There is really nothing preventing you from attaching suppressors to those.  Aside from the lack of prebuilt suppressors.
26-05-2020 07:23:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: There's 20mm suppressors, you know.
26-05-2020 07:23:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: And shotgun suppressors.
26-05-2020 07:23:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: a spigot mortar?
26-05-2020 07:23:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: that wouldn't even make sense.
26-05-2020 07:24:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: I'll admit I don't what "spigot" means in this case.
26-05-2020 07:25:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: it's a giant spring.
26-05-2020 07:25:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Yeah.  I think you could build a suppressor for a spigot mortar.
26-05-2020 07:25:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: there's no barrel.
26-05-2020 07:26:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: it sticks out the top.
26-05-2020 07:26:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: It would remove all benefits of the platform, make it extremely difficult to use, and be heavier than the actual mortar.
26-05-2020 07:26:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: But I don't see why you couldn't do it.
26-05-2020 07:26:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Yeah, you attach the base of the suppressor to the baseplate.
26-05-2020 07:26:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Basically you have a suppressor that is an entire barrel.
26-05-2020 07:27:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: mmm
26-05-2020 07:27:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'll note that "you can attach a supressor to anything" doesn't really tell me anything about my system
26-05-2020 07:27:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: so instead I'll tell you what I'll do and test how much you scream, okay?
26-05-2020 07:27:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Do you *want* me to sperg about how suppressors work
26-05-2020 07:27:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Because I will
26-05-2020 07:28:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: nooooo.
26-05-2020 07:28:37 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'll let you buy a supressor with your starting money, and it will make your pistol or smg not as loud. can still be heard, but generally not from across the map.
26-05-2020 07:29:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Yeah, that's fine.  That works and makes sense for basically any gun.
26-05-2020 07:29:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Not revolvers, except for the stealth revolver which is already suppressed.
26-05-2020 07:29:39 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ah. so should it be fore rifles etc too?
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26-05-2020 07:30:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Yeah.  I'd suggest making it add +1 move pen to anything it's attched to, just so it isn't a straight upgrade.
26-05-2020 07:30:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: But yeah, most modern pictures of snipers, they have suppressors on their rifles, because there's very little reason *not* to use one.  If you can get a good one.
26-05-2020 07:31:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: is there someone wrong with something that costs money being a straight upgrade? Especially when it doesn't effect stats?
26-05-2020 07:31:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: And they do benefit snipers a lot, namely by hiding muzzle flash very effectively.
26-05-2020 07:32:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Not really, it's just a general game design thing to make stuff have tradeoffs.
26-05-2020 07:32:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: It's also a little boring if everyone just adds suppressors to everything
26-05-2020 07:32:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: everything!
26-05-2020 07:33:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Maybe have them wear out.
26-05-2020 07:33:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Oh god
26-05-2020 07:33:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I mean, they would mostly be useful if everyone had one.
26-05-2020 07:33:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Please no
26-05-2020 07:36:34 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: damn, I forgot where I was editing the rules. was I done with what I wanted to do?
26-05-2020 07:36:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: no guns wearing out?
26-05-2020 07:36:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Heh.
26-05-2020 07:37:11 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ... shouldn't matter when the game will consist of what? 2 dozen enemies?
26-05-2020 07:37:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: This list was partly balanced around gun reliability.  Which doesn't exist in the system, and judging from my own attempts, *should not* exist in the system.
26-05-2020 07:38:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: It totally would if the suppressors were realistic, which they shouldn't be.
26-05-2020 07:38:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Design varies a lot but there are suppressors (the most effective unsurprisingly) which will wear out in ten shots.
26-05-2020 07:39:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'm sure there are ones which you'd get one shot out of :P
26-05-2020 07:39:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: And even the most durable will not withstand consistent automatic fire with full power ammo, which is not unreasonable for two dozen enemies.
26-05-2020 07:40:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Not sure if I linked this before: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BczhT1ByrXA
26-05-2020 07:43:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: That's a long burst.
26-05-2020 07:43:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: That is no longer a burst.
26-05-2020 07:44:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: I don't care how they describe it.
26-05-2020 07:44:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: I don't know.
26-05-2020 07:44:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: man, morons in youtube commentary.  '5.56mm isn't designed to kill.'
26-05-2020 07:44:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: morons.
26-05-2020 07:44:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: smorc
26-05-2020 07:45:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: so what do you call it?
26-05-2020 07:45:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you call it dakka
26-05-2020 07:46:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: more dakka.
26-05-2020 07:50:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: (~tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down~)
26-05-2020 07:52:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: orange soda.
26-05-2020 07:53:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: thesis: pink jesus wouldn't make everyone into organe soda, because she has parents
26-05-2020 07:54:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: no, only shoots magical girls with arrows.
26-05-2020 07:54:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: ;-p
26-05-2020 07:54:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Write a Vijiriwek PM
26-05-2020 07:54:41 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh vibrates
26-05-2020 07:54:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: about what?
26-05-2020 07:55:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: I dunno.  Put me in an environment.
26-05-2020 07:57:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you mean, start running a game for just you?
26-05-2020 07:59:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Yes?
26-05-2020 07:59:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: O.O
26-05-2020 08:00:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I asked because that's something I'm not going to do just now, because I am *actively* working on some stuff for a 5-player game :P
26-05-2020 08:00:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: called Vijiriwek
26-05-2020 08:01:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Ohhh
26-05-2020 08:01:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: is that not what you were expecting me to do?
26-05-2020 08:01:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Awww, and also oooh
26-05-2020 08:02:05 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'm always happy to run something in IRC, though it might distract me from completing the last 2 components of this
26-05-2020 08:02:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: No, complete it.
26-05-2020 08:02:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: environment?
26-05-2020 08:03:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: what about it
26-05-2020 08:04:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: do you need one?
26-05-2020 08:04:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: no, that's the stuff I already have :P
26-05-2020 08:18:30 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: should I write... *sigh* melee mechanics?
26-05-2020 08:18:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Nah
26-05-2020 08:18:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: Guns guns guns
26-05-2020 08:20:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: (Why not?  Melee weapons would basically just be guns with only a CQB range, zero move pen, and probably good damage modified by str.)
26-05-2020 08:37:51 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: okay, melee got 6 stats. me happy :P
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26-05-2020 08:54:14 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: syv, sent a Thing :3
26-05-2020 08:55:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.imh.osh: :D
26-05-2020 08:57:47 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: man, it's satisfying to copy a gun stat block and then just erase the stats marked N/N
26-05-2020 08:57:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: N/A
26-05-2020 08:58:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: it's like, don't gotta worry about that shit any more!
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26-05-2020 09:09:00 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hi!
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26-05-2020 09:16:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: "You may choose to attack multiple times in a turn by performing a Flurry. This costs stamina for each attack in the flurry, and each attack is rolled seperately."
26-05-2020 09:17:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Flurry cost listed for the combat knife is 2.
26-05-2020 09:17:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: That reads, to me, like you can get an addition four attacks out of combat knife by spending eight stamina,
26-05-2020 09:18:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: When I thiiink it's meant to mean you can spend two stamina to get four additional attacks.
26-05-2020 09:18:21 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: "each attack"
26-05-2020 09:19:22 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Costs 10 stamina to do 5 attacks
26-05-2020 09:19:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: The first one costs too, you know
26-05-2020 09:23:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Wow, that seems rather expensive.
26-05-2020 09:24:02 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: well, it's easy to hit with and does a total of 15 damage if they all hit
26-05-2020 09:24:17 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: which is enough to kill any human, if no armor
26-05-2020 09:24:40 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'm fine with using a knife to nuke someone, but it should leave you exhausted
26-05-2020 09:25:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: (and if you miss 1 it's enough to kill any human without max Vitality)
26-05-2020 09:27:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: I suggest making it ignore ballistic armor.  Both because that's fairly realistic, and because it's somwhat balanced.  And cool.
26-05-2020 09:29:16 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Realistic to ignore armor designed for bullets, yeah. Which is most likely what's useful and used in the setting, yeah. :P
26-05-2020 09:58:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: uh, what was I doing?
26-05-2020 09:58:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: (new TTS)
26-05-2020 10:00:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: now?
26-05-2020 10:00:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: goddamn it.
26-05-2020 10:01:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Side-story, so I don't absolutely have to watch it now.
26-05-2020 10:01:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: yaaay.
26-05-2020 10:03:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: I need to play Lance Cashpants sometime.  Just the name.
26-05-2020 10:27:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: welp, I think that's done except for the items
26-05-2020 10:29:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: syv, could I have your permission to just copy-paste the descriptions of the acremenian guns from you? :V
26-05-2020 10:30:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Uhm, sure.
26-05-2020 10:33:18 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: huh, should the autofire from the 2-shot burst pistol count for supression stuff?
26-05-2020 10:37:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: No.
26-05-2020 10:48:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: I apparently changed the stats in the doc later on.  I've got four versions of the doc with successive changes.
26-05-2020 10:48:42 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv sighs
26-05-2020 10:48:56 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'm using a PM you sent me. At some point.
26-05-2020 10:49:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Yeah, Great Arsenal of Syv
26-05-2020 10:49:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: That's fine, the changes are for the most part minor IIRC.  Just me eternally tinkering with the balance.
26-05-2020 11:07:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: The Jagged is described as being signifigantly lighter than the Parlous, so should I make it Large rather than Very Large like it's cousin?
26-05-2020 11:10:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: do you remember the stats for that MGL? :V
26-05-2020 11:24:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Hmm
26-05-2020 11:24:58 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: <3
26-05-2020 11:25:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Yes
26-05-2020 11:25:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: In both cases.
26-05-2020 11:26:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Specialist: V.67.  Revolver grenade launcher, sniper weight.  Meh accuracy, semiauto (DC 14, x3 shots), six rounds.  Loads only two per turn.
26-05-2020 11:29:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: So prolly 11/12/14 accuracy, 3-4 move pen
26-05-2020 11:29:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: Chainsaw
26-05-2020 11:29:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 	Melee: 11
26-05-2020 11:29:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 	Point Stab Penalty: 4
26-05-2020 11:29:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 	Damage: 3
26-05-2020 11:29:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 	Flurry Max: 13
26-05-2020 11:29:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 	Flurry Cost: 1
26-05-2020 11:29:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: 	Size: Large
26-05-2020 11:29:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: :)
26-05-2020 11:30:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: :)
26-05-2020 11:31:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Man, making the shotgun revolver double action is dumb. If there's any SA revolver, and there should be one, that's it.
26-05-2020 11:34:23 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: what were the ballistic armor tiers? 3 / 5 / 7?
26-05-2020 11:36:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: That sounds likely.
26-05-2020 11:37:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: 7 is basically juggernaut armor, by the by.
26-05-2020 11:38:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: 5 is probably, like, quadguard.
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26-05-2020 12:02:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Oh, dang.
26-05-2020 12:02:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: ER, post in KCom
26-05-2020 12:03:11 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hi Piecewise :)
26-05-2020 12:03:26 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: okay
26-05-2020 12:03:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-30-69-8.lsv6.qwest.net: Hello
26-05-2020 12:03:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-30-69-8.lsv6.qwest.net: ok
26-05-2020 12:03:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I think I just finished this...
26-05-2020 12:03:36 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-30-69-8.lsv6.qwest.net: cool
26-05-2020 12:04:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: want a game where an outer god tells you to go kill some scrubs in a mansion in the woods?
26-05-2020 12:04:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: got it right here buddy
26-05-2020 12:06:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Hello Dubs.
26-05-2020 12:06:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: How's that game you mentioned coming along?
26-05-2020 12:08:10 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: was I going to buy a fighter jet from you this turn, syv?...
26-05-2020 12:08:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Can you afford one?  Because if so, yes.
26-05-2020 12:09:14 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: remind me the cost. :V
26-05-2020 12:09:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: At minimum, cost is 200, and honestly it should be more like 250 since I can only immediately sell you a buffed plane.
26-05-2020 12:09:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: But in the interest of teamwork I'll give you the 200 cost plane just so we can field more planes.
26-05-2020 12:10:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: *Give you the buffed plane at 200 cost
26-05-2020 12:10:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: That's the manufacturing cost BTW, since I'm actually broke.
26-05-2020 12:21:02 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: posted
26-05-2020 12:23:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Wooo!
26-05-2020 12:30:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Wow you have a lot of cash.
26-05-2020 12:30:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Why the second listening post?
26-05-2020 12:32:43 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: becausing having more helps
26-05-2020 12:33:35 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: my budget shooted way up, then went back down because I was literally useless
26-05-2020 12:33:44 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: but I still have my cash, suckers!
26-05-2020 12:34:12 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: gonna spend it on growth and the bare minimum of weapons which are effective right now
26-05-2020 12:34:32 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: sent you the OP.
26-05-2020 12:34:53 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: If you don't see anything blatantly wrong with it, I'll go ahead and post it.
26-05-2020 12:36:31 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: also I was listening to https://youtu.be/_N66Hud_Tq4 for the vast majority of the time I was making stuff for this game
26-05-2020 12:52:13 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: huh. there are EXACTLY 2 dozen enemies
26-05-2020 12:52:29 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: good estimate, past me!
26-05-2020 12:52:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Okay, will look
26-05-2020 12:58:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: I think I'd make the lethal grenades 1 mony, since they can miss and aren't guaranteed kills even if they hit.
26-05-2020 12:58:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Well, frag's not guaranteed...
26-05-2020 12:59:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: If I take a V67, do I have infinite grenades, or did I miss reload price somewhere?
26-05-2020 13:00:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Yup, that's all I have to say.  Looks good.
26-05-2020 13:02:01 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I'd probably let you have infinite grenades, or at least infinite until you've gone through a massive pile of the things and you roll bad luck :P
26-05-2020 13:03:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Hmm, helmet + light armor + suppressor costs 3.
26-05-2020 13:03:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Shotgun costs 3.
26-05-2020 13:03:24 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah, made lethal grenades cheaper
26-05-2020 13:04:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: No P90 so can't play gasmask squirrel, which means autoshotty ninja is the next best thing.
26-05-2020 13:08:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=176493
26-05-2020 13:09:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: you can use a P90 if you mod it in yourself :V
26-05-2020 13:10:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: as the newly edited OP says, additional items are available upon request ;v
26-05-2020 13:11:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Can I have one of Sovereign's V55s then? ;P
26-05-2020 13:12:24 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I mean...
26-05-2020 13:13:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I might ask the price go up a little comparatively, because it's "exotic" to this part of the world, but I would let you
26-05-2020 13:13:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Nah, I'm gonna use something from the base armory.  That's more fair to the other players.
26-05-2020 13:13:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: The V55 is OP anyway.
26-05-2020 13:17:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: gods, the longest moment is the time between posting an OP and someone replying to to, after thinking about that OP for hours.
26-05-2020 13:17:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: I'll post once I've found and run my CVCVCVCVCVC namegen program.
26-05-2020 13:25:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Seem to have lost it, sigh
26-05-2020 13:25:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: `namegen
26-05-2020 13:25:50 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: Some names to ponder: Naydd, Vadrik, Geldgursa, Raldtyn, Houleraaineth, Wyaldywarty, Valdaynegayndy, Gelywartywat, Vardiamientyn, Kolquintinro, Synlocar, Ocquentelydd, Urer, Horcathyn, Houlzane, Baeeraber, Nevcoddarthnik, Nyereque, Delriksa, Pesdothalenalen.
26-05-2020 13:30:41 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: naydd is pretty good
26-05-2020 13:31:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Can I have drugs?
26-05-2020 13:31:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: I have one money left over and I'd rather buy drugs than a grenade.
26-05-2020 13:32:03 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ugh. drugs are always a problem...
26-05-2020 13:32:15 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: what would you like them to do?
26-05-2020 13:32:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Ehh, nevermind actually.
26-05-2020 13:36:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Posted.
26-05-2020 13:36:48 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: <3
26-05-2020 13:38:52 < * ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com suddenly remembers that he forgot to give any enemies armor
26-05-2020 13:39:04 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hm
26-05-2020 13:39:20 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yeah, a few of them probably deserve it.
26-05-2020 13:39:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Just edit some of them.
26-05-2020 13:48:49 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: well, now [REDACTED], so have fun with that.
26-05-2020 14:14:01 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: ah yes, this game looked fun https://store.steampowered.com/app/431940/Wildfire
26-05-2020 14:25:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.tjv.wtv: Indeed.
26-05-2020 14:54:02 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hoo boy
26-05-2020 14:54:06 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I must rest
26-05-2020 14:54:14 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: <3
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26-05-2020 23:51:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Heya
26-05-2020 23:51:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: thanks for the orders.
26-05-2020 23:51:55 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hi