11-05-2020 00:46:54 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: :)
11-05-2020 02:35:33 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: I wonder if syv will ever be around at a time for movie watching
11-05-2020 02:38:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: dunno.
11-05-2020 02:38:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: hopefully not too long.
11-05-2020 03:10:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: set a new record for ransom recieved in Medieval:TW.
11-05-2020 03:10:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: 2980 prisoners.
11-05-2020 03:11:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: and 29,000 and change florins.
11-05-2020 03:13:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: got a king and his heir.
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11-05-2020 07:27:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: heyo
11-05-2020 07:28:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: heyo
11-05-2020 07:28:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/BizvbrGAsub-png__700-5c66aa96baa85__700.jpg
11-05-2020 07:28:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: I'll be online earlier to watch stuff once I have A) a computer that can actually play HQ video reliably, and B) videos to play on that computer.
11-05-2020 07:30:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: yeah, no hurry.
11-05-2020 07:30:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: and no worries.
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11-05-2020 08:40:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: Oh.  The TW bounty.  That scenario seems rather weird--capturing the king *and* his heir?  And then just... selling them back, along with an army, for really any sum?
11-05-2020 08:41:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: I can see how it could be a worthwhile trade from both sides' perspectives, but it's still just weird.
11-05-2020 08:46:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: The faction had no choice.
11-05-2020 08:47:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: They re-emerged in two regions I'd just hit from the Byzantines.
11-05-2020 08:47:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: basically killing their army lead to a rebellion, which lead to about four, five thousand of their soldiers popping out of nowhere.
11-05-2020 08:48:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: The byzantines also counterattacked one of the region, so there was a battle with ten thousand men in it.. four thousand of my guys, three thousand egyptians, and three thousand byzantines.
11-05-2020 08:49:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Anyway, I was technically the defender, having secured the region by booting out the previous byzantine stack on the previous turn, so only had to defend.  The map had a good hill on it, and I'd lucked out and gotten a winter battle in Palestine, so my plate-mail wearing knights didn't boil in their armour.
11-05-2020 08:50:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: There were something like six previous battles that turn already so..
11-05-2020 08:51:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Anyway, the byzantines attacked first, and their nine-star general and pretty good quality troops were slowly breaking my army.  They mulched through two units of spears, two units of swords, one and a half units of knights and a unit of light cav.
11-05-2020 08:52:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: about half my starting stack and my best troops, but eventually my arbalesters started knocking down their Kataphracts and I got to hit their general with two charges, followed up by temporarily surrounding him.  He then tried to pull out, but got killed before managing to cut his way free.
11-05-2020 08:52:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: It was a really near-run thing.
11-05-2020 08:55:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: After that, the byzantines tried to break the egyptians and harassed me with horse archers, but without the commander couldn't manage to get it done.
11-05-2020 08:55:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Then the AI glitched, and the Egyptians didn't move to an offensive stance which might, or might not have beaten my troops.  I think I'd have held, but it would have been close.
11-05-2020 08:56:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: it took enough time I could bring up fresh units, and had reassembled mostly another good stack, if not quite balanced as I'd wanted it to be.
11-05-2020 08:57:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: But... why would they have no choice?
11-05-2020 08:57:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: "Ohp, king's dead, guess we'll have to replace him.  Oh well!"
11-05-2020 08:58:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: They had no choice because the king and his heir were both captured in the same battle.
11-05-2020 08:58:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: that was a no-retreat battle for them because that battle happened to occur before the other rebellion in the neighboring province.
11-05-2020 08:58:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: Better than going bankrupt and being unable to even field an army.  And if it *didn't* bankrupt them, then why sell them back a powerful general and army?
11-05-2020 08:59:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: I didn't have a choice but to sell them those troops.  They were taken by surrender after time out, not killed or captured on the battlefield, where I could have done that.
11-05-2020 08:59:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: I could have tried to fight them, but I'd suffered over a thousand casulties and it would have been iffy at best.
11-05-2020 08:59:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: So they weren't *really* captured?
11-05-2020 09:00:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: The faction didn't die because they'd won the other battle in Arabia, which was a similar stack against about six hundred troops.
11-05-2020 09:00:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: they were captured due to the battle timing out and no retreat being available.
11-05-2020 09:00:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Anyway, they still have six thousand troops and will not be trivial to stop, even if they don't have any money to buy new ones.
11-05-2020 09:01:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: So you're forced to sell troops "captured" by timing out, but not those captured by surrender...?
11-05-2020 09:01:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Yes.
11-05-2020 09:01:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: captured by being captured in battle you can decide to kill them before ending the battle.
11-05-2020 09:02:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: captured by surrender you can't.
11-05-2020 09:02:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: because that happens after the end of the battle.
11-05-2020 09:03:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: And you can't just keep them prisoner?  Throw them in a jail?
11-05-2020 09:04:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: That's how it works, yeah.
11-05-2020 09:04:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: It's dumb.
11-05-2020 09:05:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Looking at the logfile, it only gave me half the egyptians, and I'd gotten lucky to do both.
11-05-2020 09:05:04 < * Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net shrugs.
11-05-2020 09:05:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: no time for that to happen before the end of turn.
11-05-2020 09:07:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: it is dumb, but that's how it works.  If I'd wanted them dead, I should have fought them on the battlefield.
11-05-2020 09:09:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Man.. some of those units got mulched.  I'm looking at a specialized unit of elite swordsmen that had to be produced out of my capital, which usually only makes knights.  It had two weapon upgrades and three armour upgrades, and went 16-53 on kill death.
11-05-2020 09:10:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: spear unit that went 10-117..
11-05-2020 09:10:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: knight unit that went 25-47.
11-05-2020 09:10:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: This is TW: Medieval I, right?
11-05-2020 09:10:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: Or Medieval: TW, I guess.
11-05-2020 09:12:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Yes.
11-05-2020 09:12:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: that knight unit with the one survivor went 47-50, so traded 1:1 I guess..
11-05-2020 09:13:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: IIRC he got some enemy arbalests before running into more knights, so.. yeah ouch.
11-05-2020 09:13:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: overall it was a good trade, but the killing was done by my crossbows.
11-05-2020 09:14:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: I used to play TW II, over a decade ago.
11-05-2020 09:15:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Mmm.
11-05-2020 09:15:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.xrm.tkm: I pretty much never played the actual tactical battles though, just auto'd them and played the strategic game.  Fairly incompetently.
11-05-2020 09:15:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Heh.
11-05-2020 09:15:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: I do auto a lot of the battles.
11-05-2020 09:15:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: sometimes because I don't want to do the time, sometimes because I think the auto will give me a better result..
11-05-2020 09:15:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: but I wasn't going to miss a three-way battle with 10,000 men.
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11-05-2020 16:46:56 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: hey dev
11-05-2020 16:46:59 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: irony game :P
11-05-2020 16:58:57 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: "They didn't become the most beautiful, elegant, powerful, and compassionate race to ever exist by allowing the weak to survive."
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11-05-2020 19:03:54 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Do fleshorrors dream of eclectic blebs?
11-05-2020 19:03:54 -!- Topic set by syv [Sunday 01 March 2020, 07:55:55]
11-05-2020 22:57:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: 'lo
11-05-2020 22:57:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: Heya Piecewise.
11-05-2020 22:58:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: That's an update.
11-05-2020 22:59:42 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: yay
11-05-2020 22:59:50 < ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com: metroidvania is fun
11-05-2020 23:01:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: yay
11-05-2020 23:01:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: also looks like plot.
11-05-2020 23:07:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: also that flier is huge.
11-05-2020 23:07:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: and too expensive to keep, but should be good for some use.
11-05-2020 23:53:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@c080-099-0-411.bchsia.telus.net: and yeah.