07-04-2020 00:49:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: 'lo
07-04-2020 00:49:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Might let you in next turn.
07-04-2020 00:50:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: not throwing it back out.
07-04-2020 00:50:43 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dammit
07-04-2020 00:50:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: It might get Saeko disenchanted.
07-04-2020 00:51:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I'm not vetoing the idea, just let me see if it's like super dangerous.
07-04-2020 00:51:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: plus we might have to keep holding hands or something.
07-04-2020 00:59:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Piecewise__, for clarification Saeko isn't going to throw away the king key after stepping inside the king room.
07-04-2020 00:59:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: ok?
07-04-2020 01:40:07 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Ok
07-04-2020 01:50:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Hmm.
07-04-2020 01:50:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: how much money to build a base?
07-04-2020 01:50:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: assume cash for three or four map squares, and about forty rooms worth of buildings.
07-04-2020 01:55:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: maybe a few special features.
07-04-2020 02:38:42 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Three or four MAP squares? 
07-04-2020 02:39:02 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: So something the size of a small town?
07-04-2020 02:39:13 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Price for that depends on where really
07-04-2020 02:46:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: yeah.
07-04-2020 02:46:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: lemme open up the map.
07-04-2020 02:47:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: somewhere near the river west of ens veneris.
07-04-2020 02:48:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: maybe near the foothills, maybe nearer the road to the southwest, somewhere in that sort of block.
07-04-2020 03:06:57 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: If its unsettled you could do it for free, reasonably
07-04-2020 03:08:33 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: at least buying the land there'd be no thing
07-04-2020 03:08:43 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: as per the actual cost of building...depends how and with what
07-04-2020 03:09:10 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I mean, with animate you could make golems to do it all for you, theoretically
07-04-2020 03:09:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: eh, probably some of a, some of b, some of c, a bunch of stuff.
07-04-2020 03:09:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: likely mostly whatever's reasonably priced.  I'd like wood, but apparently that's pretty dear.
07-04-2020 03:10:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Golems are dependant on ekrov.
07-04-2020 03:13:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I do need a vault with metal walls, but summoning the metal for that with spells seems likely.
07-04-2020 03:13:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: otherwise, some stone and mostly what'ever's reasonably priced, wood if available.
07-04-2020 03:14:49 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Wood is only rare in places not near the woods
07-04-2020 03:15:40 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: But if we're building using naturally sourced materials, then the only costs would be labor and any thing else you buy
07-04-2020 03:16:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: mmm, probably want at least some stuff.  Need a bunch of rooms and furnature and such.
07-04-2020 03:16:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: and like a stove or something.
07-04-2020 03:16:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: (ie, stoves)
07-04-2020 03:18:28 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I mean you just want a really rough guess estimate of a base that size? 
07-04-2020 03:18:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Yeah, basically.
07-04-2020 03:18:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: a few thousand?
07-04-2020 03:18:51 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Yeah, something like that
07-04-2020 03:18:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: ten thousand?
07-04-2020 03:18:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Ok.
07-04-2020 03:19:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: just kinda want a ballpark estimate for how much we need to loot.
07-04-2020 03:22:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: gives me a budget for luxuries and fittings and what not.
07-04-2020 03:27:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: or to know if we're way short and need to drum up more money or cut back somewhere.
07-04-2020 03:33:09 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I'd shoot for 4-5K
07-04-2020 03:33:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: sounds good.
07-04-2020 03:36:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Probably need some extras for tools on top of that, hmm.
07-04-2020 03:36:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: yeah, need some jewellers tools, probably at least one forge.
07-04-2020 03:37:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: eh, those are all fittings.
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07-04-2020 03:38:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: hey syv.
07-04-2020 03:39:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: "Wait, we're already building a house together?  Isn't this a bit too fast?  I thought we were supposed to start with dating..." -Ekrov, probably
07-04-2020 03:39:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: hey dev.
07-04-2020 03:40:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: "Dating?  We killed clockwork dragons together, doesn't that count as dating?"
07-04-2020 03:40:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: ":<"
07-04-2020 03:41:08 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this will never happen, because the laws of anime dictate that ek's unrequited crush shall remain as such for all time
07-04-2020 03:41:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Yes.
07-04-2020 03:41:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Also hilarious.
07-04-2020 03:42:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Weirdly enough, I usually find that trope extremely annoying, but when I'm applying it to my own character it's great.
07-04-2020 03:42:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: "Well, I kinda need a place to keep my giant monster.  And it'd be nice to be able to experiment with like guns and robots.  Plus I want to start a business and need a headquarters."
07-04-2020 03:42:23 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Anyway, tell dev a good, logical reason why he should let me participate in the adventure
07-04-2020 03:42:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Yeah, uh, maybe tomorrow.
07-04-2020 03:42:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Look, I'm not vetoing Zavi coming in the king door, just want to look in there first.
07-04-2020 03:43:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: I've been awake since... noon, huh, that's only twelve hours.
07-04-2020 03:43:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Just walk inside.
07-04-2020 03:44:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: It probably will just eject you worst case.
07-04-2020 03:44:30 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Worst case it delevels me
07-04-2020 03:44:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: And might have no substantial effect beyond disenchanting gear.  Might have no effect at all, since the King led the way.
07-04-2020 03:44:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: "You fall into the all-encompassing darkness, entering a hell of sensory deprivation that leaves your mind wandering and broken in its endless expanse of nothingness, where you have no mouth with which to scream and no ears with which to hear."
07-04-2020 03:45:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Dev.
07-04-2020 03:45:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Yes?
07-04-2020 03:45:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Stop convincing the mage breaker to not fall for my plan to remove her.
07-04-2020 03:45:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: TBH, I agree with you, it might work, and it'll probably just bounce.
07-04-2020 03:45:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Worst case is probably some deleveling or mana drain.
07-04-2020 03:46:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: But yeah, I think there's a decent chance just following will work.
07-04-2020 03:46:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Failing that, handholding should definitely work, and also engender envy in the resident gullible oracle.
07-04-2020 03:47:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: well, you can come too.
07-04-2020 03:47:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Nah, not gonna.
07-04-2020 03:47:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: It's going to be so awkward once Saeko gets big enough for Ekrov to literally ride her platonically.  ;-p
07-04-2020 03:47:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: OOC it's not really worth it, and I'm more interested in the junk outside anyway.
07-04-2020 03:47:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: IC, yes, Ekrov would be champing at the bit to see inside, but screw him.
07-04-2020 03:48:04 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I mean, I'm thinking that I should go with you when you go to retrieve this absurdly powerful object.
07-04-2020 03:48:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: You guys were freakign out about the political ramifications of some magicoal.
07-04-2020 03:48:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: It does seem like something your employers would want you to do.
07-04-2020 03:49:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Did we ever bring that up with Zavi directly?
07-04-2020 03:49:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I think there was an exchange.
07-04-2020 03:49:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: but by this point Saeko has been told to play nice, and Zavi has managed to not blow up the mana room, so it seems a lot more reasonable.
07-04-2020 03:55:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: so, yeah, Zavi can come in, but just let me get the description first at least, ok?
07-04-2020 03:55:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: It still might be on fire or something hostile.
07-04-2020 03:55:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: You didn't ask if Saeko would be 'burned to death', did you, syv?
07-04-2020 03:56:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: No...?
07-04-2020 03:56:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: I asked if just walking in would hurt her bad, and Dubs implied that was insufficient phrasing.  That's all.
07-04-2020 03:56:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: If it were on fire, the objects we retrived would be hot to the touch, and the water would have boiled away
07-04-2020 03:56:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: I'm sure if you press the big red button that'll prolly kill you, but you're not Egan.
07-04-2020 03:58:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: njw admitted that incinerating the big pile of alchemical stuff in order to GAIN ITS POWER when the flame grows stronger by burning interesting stuff did make sense from a certain point of view
07-04-2020 03:59:25 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and the death before that was kiind of a lol instakill for RPing as a not very pragmatic big ole hedonist
07-04-2020 04:02:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Ahh, in Coven.
07-04-2020 04:02:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Didn't you die -twice- in succession there?
07-04-2020 04:02:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: I think you're trying to argue that you don't get characters killed often, but it's not gonna work because I'm pretty sure you've lost more characters than anyone else I play forum games with.
07-04-2020 04:02:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Look, ER, I agreed to it.
07-04-2020 04:02:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: just next turn.
07-04-2020 04:02:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Possibly by an order of magnitude.
07-04-2020 04:02:59 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I haven't lost a lot of characters since... I quit omega
07-04-2020 04:03:11 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mostly just the games have died...
07-04-2020 04:03:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Dev, there is an argument to take her this turn.
07-04-2020 04:03:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: She's a meat shield, for one, and a powerful ally for two.
07-04-2020 04:03:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Saeko's tougher than her, though.
07-04-2020 04:03:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Also a not-meat shield, which is a lot sturdier.
07-04-2020 04:03:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: If extending the effect requires handholding, you literally can rein her in.
07-04-2020 04:03:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Zavi isn't still wearing naked armour, right?
07-04-2020 04:04:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: actually, no, I think Zavi can outmuscle her pretty good.
07-04-2020 04:04:13 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: gesus, read zavi's description
07-04-2020 04:04:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it hasn't said that in aaaages
07-04-2020 04:05:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: "Oh yes, I shouldn't use the annoying government spy that's watching me as a meatshield, because I can take hits better than her.  It would be such a terrible thing to have her die when I'd only get crippled if I were taking the lead"
07-04-2020 04:05:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: "I'm not *evil* after all"
07-04-2020 04:05:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Heh.
07-04-2020 04:05:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Nah, it's more that if Saeko is going to try and kill her, she isn't going to do it with something that probably won't work.
07-04-2020 04:06:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: But yeah, she goes to press the big read button?  Say no.  She goes anyway?  Let go.
07-04-2020 04:06:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: That sort of thing, yeah, sure.
07-04-2020 04:06:41 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I assume the black field won't extend past the entrance, really.
07-04-2020 04:06:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: seems likely.
07-04-2020 04:06:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: but maybe not for sure.
07-04-2020 04:07:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: There's little risk, and fair potential reward--Zavi is a powerful ally and a nice shield.
07-04-2020 04:07:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: if it's protective like foam padding it might go all the way in.
07-04-2020 04:07:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: mmm.
07-04-2020 04:07:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: I expect the black is cast over the entire space.
07-04-2020 04:07:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Saeko does want first look, though.
07-04-2020 04:07:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: she does want to explore.
07-04-2020 04:07:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Welp, I tried.
07-04-2020 04:09:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: it was valiant.
07-04-2020 04:09:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Zavi can come, just want first look.
07-04-2020 04:09:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: both to see if it's safe, and because it's first.
07-04-2020 04:11:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: I'd never taken you for a "FIRST!!1!" person.
07-04-2020 04:12:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I'm not, but Saeko is here to explore.
07-04-2020 04:15:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: although sometimes I do do things like that, just to speed something along.
07-04-2020 04:39:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: "Banish Vacuum" = shoot to space?
07-04-2020 04:43:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how many times have I linked this one? https://youtu.be/dqDs14YqsAw
07-04-2020 04:46:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: once or twice, I think.
07-04-2020 04:57:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: not bad.
07-04-2020 05:50:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: ER
07-04-2020 05:50:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: will do k-com this saturday.
07-04-2020 05:50:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: you have only missing orders.
07-04-2020 05:53:27 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: `roll 1d2
07-04-2020 05:53:27 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: ER rolled 1d2: 1  <Total: 1>
07-04-2020 05:53:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: `roll 1d2
07-04-2020 05:53:35 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: ER rolled 1d2: 1  <Total: 1>
07-04-2020 05:55:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: `roll 1d2
07-04-2020 05:55:22 < GameServ!gameserv@services.darkmyst.org: syv rolled 1d2: 2  <Total: 2>
07-04-2020 05:55:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: I win.  Go post orders.
07-04-2020 05:55:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Remember to spy on ass.
07-04-2020 05:55:50 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: pfft
07-04-2020 05:56:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: don't worry.
07-04-2020 05:56:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: there are things none of you know about to spy on.
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07-04-2020 06:11:52 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what is cost for new base? 50?
07-04-2020 06:12:43 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, and how long does it take
07-04-2020 06:13:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Just a turn, and yes, 50.
07-04-2020 06:13:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Do give me a location, too.
07-04-2020 06:14:39 < sy!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: A new base?
07-04-2020 06:14:43 < sy!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: That's an idea.
07-04-2020 06:15:16 < sy!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: That's definitely an idea.  A hangar, a runway, and bam.  Safeish MS project housing.
07-04-2020 06:15:35 < sy!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Can a plane fly to another base, pick up a unit, then fly to battle?
07-04-2020 06:16:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Mmm.
07-04-2020 06:16:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Thinking.
07-04-2020 06:17:06 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hey sy, do you have an estimate for how much you would be willing to sell fighters to us for?
07-04-2020 06:18:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I'm just not sure.  I'll say yes, but I might change my mind.
07-04-2020 06:18:21 < sy!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Depends on offers, prolly not too much.  250-300.
07-04-2020 06:19:00 < sy!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: 200 is how much they cost to make, so that's pretty much the floor unless I seriously get money issues.
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07-04-2020 06:40:57 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dev, does Small Arms have an advantage over Rocket launchers at all ever?
07-04-2020 06:41:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like, being used while moving or something?
07-04-2020 06:44:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Nope.
07-04-2020 06:51:23 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=174630.msg8120726#msg8120726
07-04-2020 06:52:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: reading the catgirl description, just a sec.
07-04-2020 06:53:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Okay, so you want to draw on extrauniversal energy, and not matter?
07-04-2020 06:54:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: does it matter how I describe it?
07-04-2020 06:54:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I want to use it to create swords which thirst for the blood of large enemies and can repair their wielders.
07-04-2020 06:54:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: A little, gotta judge what it can do.
07-04-2020 06:54:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: eh, should be ok.
07-04-2020 06:54:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: hrm.
07-04-2020 06:55:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: catgirls seem ok, but I'll need a bit to stat them up.  Can't give you an ETA without all my notes open, so it'll have to wait for the turn.
07-04-2020 06:55:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: seems fine.  I'm assuming you want them to be able to self-deploy, right?
07-04-2020 06:56:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: built in exoskeletons, purchased swords, and rocket launchers.
07-04-2020 06:56:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: ok.
07-04-2020 06:56:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: well, power armour exoskeletons.
07-04-2020 06:57:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: only warning is, ER, it'll take another seven kaiju muscle samples to make the first batch, when design is complete.
07-04-2020 06:57:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: well, seven muscle and four gut.
07-04-2020 06:57:43 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I know, that's why I'm planning to be able to get that stuff. :P
07-04-2020 06:57:49 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you've told me this before
07-04-2020 06:57:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Yeah, just making sure.
07-04-2020 06:57:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: sorry.
07-04-2020 07:00:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: How big are their swords?  This big?  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6k5SauImw9I
07-04-2020 07:00:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I'm imagining like Roy Greenhilt's sword.
07-04-2020 07:03:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: clicked on another one, where the guy apparently wonders how much it hurts to get shot while wearing a bulletproof vest.
07-04-2020 07:03:21 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: http://i.imgur.com/rl76hCv.jpg
07-04-2020 07:03:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: How many people die doing that each year?
07-04-2020 07:03:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: yeah, that's fine, they're superhuman.
07-04-2020 07:04:02 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: greatsword ultra greatsword is bae
07-04-2020 07:04:55 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: despite the fact that you get it after qaelaag and it's basically identical to the zwei you can get from the graveyard, except with slightly lower DR
07-04-2020 07:05:13 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and a trhust attack, which is... a thing.
07-04-2020 07:05:34 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it exists. you can trhust with it, and not with the zwei
07-04-2020 07:10:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Actually you can thrust with the zwei.
07-04-2020 07:10:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Its rolling attack is a really nice thrust.
07-04-2020 07:10:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: It's phenomenal in PvP.
07-04-2020 07:11:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I guess it would be easier to land the trust with the GSUGS, because it's wider than the zwei
07-04-2020 07:11:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: dead angels
07-04-2020 07:16:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: I think the thrust holds the sword so the blade is vertical, so...
07-04-2020 07:17:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Zwei is a bit shorter, but is also faster and lighter.
07-04-2020 07:17:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Also you *mostly* can't really dead angle thrusts, though you can ghost strike them.
07-04-2020 07:18:47 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who cares about dead angling, that's a pvp mechanic~
07-04-2020 07:18:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: please, clearly not dead angles, dead angels.
07-04-2020 07:18:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: ;-p
07-04-2020 07:23:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Dead angling is super useful in PvE actually.
07-04-2020 07:23:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Just not for piercing shields.
07-04-2020 07:23:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: almost enough to buy that high energy lab...
07-04-2020 07:23:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Oh!
07-04-2020 07:23:38 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: which I guess means I'll most likely be able to get it next month.
07-04-2020 07:23:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Dev, the advanced materials lab/shop.
07-04-2020 07:24:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Do units made with those cost more than units made with traditional methods?
07-04-2020 07:24:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Dev, does the high energy lab affect projects in progess when it builds?
07-04-2020 07:24:27 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...I forgot exotic materials was a THING
07-04-2020 07:24:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: I only remembered because I reread the OP for prices.
07-04-2020 07:24:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: yes HELs can help in-progress projects.
07-04-2020 07:25:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: advance mat labs do make more costly units.
07-04-2020 07:25:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Okay, great/
07-04-2020 07:26:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: They're pretty nice, though.
07-04-2020 07:26:02 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, I should get high energy catgirls if I hold off a month for that
07-04-2020 07:26:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: or advanced catgirls.
07-04-2020 07:26:52 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: probably not going for exotic meterials catgirls. They're already crammed full of kaiju and that would take a bit for the exotic lab to build
07-04-2020 07:27:25 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: though I admit that the prospect of exotic catgirls is enticing
07-04-2020 07:27:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Plus irony would calle them Exotic Catgirls.
07-04-2020 07:27:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: ;-p
07-04-2020 07:30:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I should say that exotic material modifications and weapons are possible.
07-04-2020 07:30:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: but you still need a lab and workshop to make them.
07-04-2020 07:32:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so by the end, we're going to need a gigantic, exotic, kaiju bit using unit that's been modified by mad science, right?
07-04-2020 07:33:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: it's an idea.
07-04-2020 07:33:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Can a normal lab reverse engineer an exotic design?
07-04-2020 07:33:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: So one person builds the lab, the other the workshop?
07-04-2020 07:33:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I'd let that work, yeah.
07-04-2020 07:33:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: just for the 1 turn and 20 cr cost.
07-04-2020 07:36:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Eh, not worth.
07-04-2020 07:36:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Would make more sense to funnel the money to build the workshop to the guy with the lab.
07-04-2020 07:37:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: Does pile more upkeep on them, but they also get to control where the units go.
07-04-2020 07:40:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: mmm.
07-04-2020 07:40:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: of course, you don't know what you get from one..
07-04-2020 07:42:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@107.87.pws.lz: What do you get from one?
07-04-2020 07:45:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: good stuff.
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07-04-2020 07:46:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: but nah, good stuff and it works differently than kaiju bits.
07-04-2020 07:46:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: so it stacks.
07-04-2020 07:46:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: same with the high energy lab.
07-04-2020 07:47:20 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hecka rad lab
07-04-2020 07:47:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: high energy catgirls is also a good phrase.
07-04-2020 07:48:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: but they do different stuff, so don't worry about one or the other being wasted.
07-04-2020 07:48:58 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, i can always go for the 4-set anyways
07-04-2020 07:49:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: i can get mad science and exotics in their equipment
07-04-2020 07:49:33 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: or just revise them, I guess
07-04-2020 07:50:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I'm afraid you can't revise something to be exotic.
07-04-2020 07:51:20 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: why not?
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07-04-2020 07:54:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: because you have to work exotic in from the beginning.
07-04-2020 07:55:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: It's different.  Sorry.
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07-04-2020 07:55:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I'm sorry.  It makes sense looking at how R&D work.
07-04-2020 07:55:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: works.
07-04-2020 07:58:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: If you could do that it'd be extremely advantageous to the point where it'd be the obviously superior strategy.
07-04-2020 08:10:39 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: where did you go, syv?
07-04-2020 08:13:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I think I might have annoyed him with a non answer about exotic materials.
07-04-2020 08:13:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I really can't give more specifics without laying out how research works, and I don't want to do that.
07-04-2020 08:16:13 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't feel very tired, but it is a fairly good time to go to sleep, and the only thing left to do is update that minimalist game, which I don't really want to do
07-04-2020 08:16:24 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this is why I can't run games
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07-04-2020 18:42:44 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mm
07-04-2020 18:43:51 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'd recommend that Salt could fly up and get the Core, but the mana wuld probably either make her literally explode on contact or instantly turn into a kaiju sized baboon condor.
07-04-2020 18:44:59 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Also, seeing as the place is a mansion, I suspect that the intention is that the king can have guests in there, but those who don't carry the key and reletively powerless compared to him.
07-04-2020 18:46:29 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Also, it appears that non-living objects end up in a different place, so you're probably in a pocket dimension?
07-04-2020 22:48:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Allo.
07-04-2020 22:48:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: It still might be king-only, but yes, I'm willing to let Zavi in.
07-04-2020 22:48:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: it does seem a little possibly dangerous.
07-04-2020 22:49:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Maybe it eats non-authorized stuff.
07-04-2020 22:49:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: wonder why it's smaller, too.
07-04-2020 22:49:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: hmm.
07-04-2020 22:49:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Also, Piecewise__, didn't you say that the thaumic furnace woudl be easy?  d20 doesn't seem easy..
07-04-2020 22:50:09 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: easy to make I think I said
07-04-2020 22:50:19 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: also, he's rolling d12+5. 
07-04-2020 22:50:42 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: He automatically succeeds 25%+ of the time
07-04-2020 22:51:28 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: But it's also easy to critfail a d20 even at d12+5
07-04-2020 22:51:47 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: or at least far from impossible
07-04-2020 22:54:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Success chance is 52%.
07-04-2020 22:55:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I mean, not impossible, but the guy's been dissassembling thaumic stuff for days now, and has max stats for the job.
07-04-2020 22:56:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: but eh, if not we'll do something else.
07-04-2020 22:58:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: hmm.
07-04-2020 22:58:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: can I do a few quick tests before inviting Zavi in?
07-04-2020 22:58:54 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: such as
07-04-2020 22:59:10 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm pretty sure you can do this on your own with bird wings or whatever, so I'll stand back
07-04-2020 22:59:16 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: was expecting a dungeon
07-04-2020 22:59:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: seeing what happens if I put that new bird statue down.
07-04-2020 22:59:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I didn't think there was that much overall space, but other than that I didn't have any solid idea.
07-04-2020 23:00:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: although I do remember picturing that the core would be a diamond and not an orb.  Dunno where orb came from.
07-04-2020 23:00:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: like just put it down on a desk or a couch somewhere and see if something happens to it.
07-04-2020 23:00:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Piecewise__ is the sphere inside the door the right size to physically fit with the outside, or is it bigger?
07-04-2020 23:00:48 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't think you ever said how big the center of the control room was
07-04-2020 23:01:26 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Yeah, it seems not to be impossible space, least in terms of that inner sphere
07-04-2020 23:01:29 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I was told that it was that shape iirc
07-04-2020 23:02:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I did know the space was round, but not that it was spherical.
07-04-2020 23:02:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: yeah, lots of ways to get to the middle, but want tests first.
07-04-2020 23:02:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: then I'll take zavi in, and then we either grab it or loot first and then grab it.
07-04-2020 23:09:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: so anything happen to the small statue?
07-04-2020 23:11:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: does it turn back to a small ingot or does it vanish out of existance or does it get sucked into the core, or..?
07-04-2020 23:26:08 < * Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net pokes Piecewise__
07-04-2020 23:26:18 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: sorry, on phone
07-04-2020 23:26:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Ahh, np.
07-04-2020 23:26:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: take your time then.