20-03-2020 00:56:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Man, I can't imagine what it's like in Vegas now, Piecewise.
20-03-2020 00:56:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: or any big city.
20-03-2020 00:56:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Nor I
20-03-2020 00:56:36 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I don't look outside
20-03-2020 00:56:45 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: But there is a machete right next to me
20-03-2020 00:56:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: PW's holed up in his bunker
20-03-2020 00:56:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: if thats any indication of the current mood
20-03-2020 00:59:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I suspect that machete isn't a new thing for you.
20-03-2020 01:03:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: its usually upstairs
20-03-2020 01:03:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: next to the vault door
20-03-2020 01:04:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Ahh.
20-03-2020 01:05:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Really though, I'm up in the foothills and on the edge of town here, so I don't see much of the craziness
20-03-2020 01:05:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: but yeah
20-03-2020 01:06:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Casinos are the biggest employers here so them being out of business is bad news
20-03-2020 01:06:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm, yeah.
20-03-2020 01:06:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: apparently the governor shut down all businesses and made it so you can't get evicted...but you still have to pay rent
20-03-2020 01:07:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Well, they did sign the relief cheque bill, so..
20-03-2020 01:07:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: you shoudl be getting something.
20-03-2020 01:07:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Although I'm assuming you're still working.
20-03-2020 01:08:08 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: As long as people are still dying, I'll have work
20-03-2020 01:08:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.
20-03-2020 01:08:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I genuinely have no idea if I'll have a job next week.
20-03-2020 01:08:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, I will, because if they fire me I need to spend a week or so putting other people officially in charge of my stuff and doing paperwork.
20-03-2020 01:08:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: but after that, dunno.
20-03-2020 01:09:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Hmmm
20-03-2020 01:09:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: So they're not putting you on leave but straight up firing people
20-03-2020 01:10:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: It mgiht vary.  I'm in a position that will get nailed badly from this, supplying stuff that's gone.
20-03-2020 01:11:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: but up here there's EI payments if you get laid off, followed by normal assistance.
20-03-2020 01:11:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: there probably will be some cheques like you're getting too.
20-03-2020 01:13:17 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mmm
20-03-2020 01:13:24 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so how about that doom eternal
20-03-2020 01:13:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, it starts after a week, and this certainly counts as 'lost job while not at fault.'
20-03-2020 01:14:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: looks like they waived that week right now, too.
20-03-2020 01:16:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: minimum of 15 weeks of benefits, at a minimum of 55% of wages.
20-03-2020 01:18:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: looks like personally for my location specifically is 26 weeks.
20-03-2020 01:19:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I earn enough for no extra suppliment so looks like near the base rate.
20-03-2020 01:20:18 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Hmm
20-03-2020 01:22:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.  Probably be some extras too, but EI should cover my living expenses if I'm quarantined for like three months.
20-03-2020 01:22:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: well, for the duration, but I think I'd go nuts being stuck for three months.
20-03-2020 01:22:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: longer.
20-03-2020 01:32:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Everywhere is shut down but my local gundam store found a loop hole and is staying open
20-03-2020 01:32:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: god bless those japanese madmen
20-03-2020 01:33:24 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: my city relies a lot on food industry and we're not allowed to have open dining rooms
20-03-2020 01:33:38 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so it looks like most places are switching to take out only
20-03-2020 01:37:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
20-03-2020 01:37:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: does that mean you can get a supply of paint?
20-03-2020 01:40:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: and you can't be expected to be quarantined without robots.  ;-p
20-03-2020 02:17:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: well, roll to anchorite's over.
20-03-2020 02:41:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm
20-03-2020 02:42:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: dangit, can't get the new version of TLD to install properly, and my long-running game was munched by save corruption.
20-03-2020 03:24:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Home depot is still open so I can get some paint regardless
20-03-2020 03:24:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: but I have enough for the moment
20-03-2020 03:24:31 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: building a hydraulic arm right now, for fun
20-03-2020 03:24:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: finished my sniper raptor
20-03-2020 03:25:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Not sure what I'll do after that...maybe that hexa gear
20-03-2020 03:26:00 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: gonna play that doom game?
20-03-2020 03:26:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: it will finish downloading in 8 minutes
20-03-2020 03:28:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I was watching some of it earlier, it looks hype
20-03-2020 03:28:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I'll be killing my browser and anything else running just to free up maximum resources
20-03-2020 03:28:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: give it the best shot
20-03-2020 03:29:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Ah! my diaclone and beastbox come tomorrow 
20-03-2020 03:29:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: DHL is a great service
20-03-2020 03:29:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I heard that you may want to turn off the steam overlay, that it's bugged or soemething to lag the game out
20-03-2020 03:31:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: ah
20-03-2020 03:33:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
20-03-2020 03:34:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: well, have fun.
20-03-2020 03:34:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
20-03-2020 03:36:40 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I'll leave this open because...I can't imagine IRC using much in terms of resources
20-03-2020 03:37:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Lets open up the task manager and start killing processes
20-03-2020 03:38:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: IRC consumes as close to zero as something can concievable do.  It'll all be on your client.
20-03-2020 03:39:10 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: yeah
20-03-2020 03:39:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: alrighty then
20-03-2020 03:39:18 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: lets see if this works
20-03-2020 03:40:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: It says I have enough to run on minimum settings regardless, but "Run" is sometimes...iffy
20-03-2020 03:41:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: ah
20-03-2020 03:41:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: not unlocked yet
20-03-2020 03:41:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: "Less than an hour"
20-03-2020 03:41:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: likely 19 minutes
20-03-2020 03:42:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
20-03-2020 03:42:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: so downloading the day one patch?
20-03-2020 03:49:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: dunno
20-03-2020 03:49:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: its fully downloaded, it just has a "release date" that hasn't come yet
20-03-2020 03:49:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: likely 9pm here
20-03-2020 03:49:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm
20-03-2020 03:49:54 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Steam sometimes unlocks via a "Midnight at X" style
20-03-2020 03:50:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: sometimes it unlocks by area time
20-03-2020 03:50:03 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: dunno why
20-03-2020 03:52:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
20-03-2020 03:54:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: ah, here we go
20-03-2020 03:54:21 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: pft
20-03-2020 03:54:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: it unlocked....to download a patch
20-03-2020 03:54:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: QUALITY
20-03-2020 03:55:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Called it!
20-03-2020 03:57:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: 25 more minutes
20-03-2020 03:57:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Its already 37 gb, come on guys
20-03-2020 03:57:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: how many more of my bits and bytes do you neeeeeeed
20-03-2020 03:57:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: all of them.
20-03-2020 03:58:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: The irony here is that my anime torrents are way faster than steam
20-03-2020 03:58:31 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: blazing fast hentai
20-03-2020 03:59:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: free market.
20-03-2020 04:01:54 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: for your consideration
20-03-2020 04:02:06 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: there are two alignments of dnd character
20-03-2020 04:02:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I'm sure you could pirate it faster than legitimately downloading it.
20-03-2020 04:02:15 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 1: "maybe we should just kill them"
20-03-2020 04:02:24 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 2: "maybe we shouldn't just kill them"
20-03-2020 04:02:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: CG Baby!  I reject both!  ;-p
20-03-2020 04:03:24 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: CG is just a multiclass between those two
20-03-2020 04:06:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: The classes are kind of weird
20-03-2020 04:06:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: or alignments I should say
20-03-2020 04:06:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: "Chaotic" Good is less "Chaotic" and more "Lawless"
20-03-2020 04:08:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: welp
20-03-2020 04:08:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that depends on your interpretation of alignment
20-03-2020 04:08:41 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and while we all know that Dev's interpretation is the objectively correct one, everyone has their own
20-03-2020 04:09:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I doubt you could find two people who believe the exact same thing about what alignment is supposed to represent
20-03-2020 04:12:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, pretty much.
20-03-2020 04:12:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: "Lawless" is a shitty interpretation of CG, though.
20-03-2020 04:12:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Which is why alignments are dumb! 
20-03-2020 04:12:19 < * Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net shrugs.
20-03-2020 04:12:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: sometimes.
20-03-2020 04:12:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I'm chaotic chaotic!
20-03-2020 04:12:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
20-03-2020 04:12:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Aye, people using them as excuses, yeah.
20-03-2020 04:13:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: CN best girl though
20-03-2020 04:14:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: eh, I'd give a good argument, but there's no point in arguing that.
20-03-2020 04:14:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: unless syv is around and wants to do so recreationally.
20-03-2020 04:15:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Most people tend to misuse them
20-03-2020 04:16:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: either misunderstand them or just use them to be an asshole
20-03-2020 04:16:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: "I'm lawful good so I always have to be a complete shithead!"
20-03-2020 04:16:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Oh yes.
20-03-2020 04:17:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: you can be a shitheel with any alignment.
20-03-2020 04:17:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Is judge dredd lawful Good?
20-03-2020 04:17:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Lawful Neutral? 
20-03-2020 04:17:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Definitely lawful
20-03-2020 04:17:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: he is the law
20-03-2020 04:18:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: ful
20-03-2020 04:18:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: TN.
20-03-2020 04:22:48 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: zombies are as smart as an average mammal, and motivated purely by hunger
20-03-2020 04:22:51 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and they're Evil
20-03-2020 04:23:11 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because...?
20-03-2020 04:23:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Because they have no existance beyond hatred for the living, ER.
20-03-2020 04:23:38 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: there are monsters which are dumb and want to eat you which are unaligned
20-03-2020 04:23:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Eh.
20-03-2020 04:23:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: that's a new thing made by people who hated alignments.
20-03-2020 04:24:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: who didn't necessarily have the wrong idea, but it's like letting people who hate games create one.
20-03-2020 04:25:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: They don't HATE the living
20-03-2020 04:25:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: do you HATE a sandwich?
20-03-2020 04:25:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: you could murder one, though.
20-03-2020 04:26:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: and I was pretty sure zombies have a hatred of the living.
20-03-2020 04:26:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: depends on the zombie lore
20-03-2020 04:26:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: didn't that zombie movie we watch have them experience unending pain that was only lessened by consumption of the living?
20-03-2020 04:26:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: true, but thats not hate, thats addiction 
20-03-2020 04:26:43 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: listen, I'm going by the 5e monster manual because that's what I learned
20-03-2020 04:26:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.
20-03-2020 04:27:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: back in the day dumb animals were graded TN.
20-03-2020 04:27:27 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: some monsters are in the class abomination but are pretty much just animals. they'll kill you to eat you but aren't smart enough to be considered malicious, and are Unaligned
20-03-2020 04:27:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Most undead were usually evil, but there was room for exceptions depending on circumstance.
20-03-2020 04:27:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I dunno but my gut says maybe
20-03-2020 04:27:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: is it starting?
20-03-2020 04:28:00 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: every single undead is Evil, despite zombies in particular being no smarter than a beast, and said to be motived by hinger
20-03-2020 04:28:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: doom?
20-03-2020 04:28:06 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not hate, just hunger
20-03-2020 04:28:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, that's baggage.  They want them to be vulnerable to aligned magic.
20-03-2020 04:28:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: oh it opened a window to ask me to update my drivers
20-03-2020 04:28:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: cool
20-03-2020 04:28:53 < * Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net gives a thumbs up.
20-03-2020 04:28:59 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but then does that mean alignment is about personality, or about your frikking sphere aura?
20-03-2020 04:29:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Again, confusion.
20-03-2020 04:29:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Both, really.
20-03-2020 04:29:47 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if your soul is made out of shit from the negative plane and you're otherwise a good person, you're Evil, because you being made out of "evil stuff" is mechanically important
20-03-2020 04:30:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Welcome to fifth edition.
20-03-2020 04:30:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but this also implies that acting goodly physically aligns you to the same energy as angels
20-03-2020 04:30:18 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, that's all additions
20-03-2020 04:30:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: before the answer to that would be, 'no, of course not.'
20-03-2020 04:30:23 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's dnd, baybay
20-03-2020 04:30:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Pfft, if you can show me what 'unaligned' meant before fifth, I'll say it's inherant to D&D.
20-03-2020 04:30:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Also, rule zero always applies.
20-03-2020 04:32:33 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: DnD is designed around a conflict between "good" and "evil", it's part of the rules
20-03-2020 04:33:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: which becomes difficult when they keep throwing in morally gray shit
20-03-2020 04:35:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yup.
20-03-2020 04:35:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: 1ed where you got xp for two things.
20-03-2020 04:35:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: overcoming obstacles and stealing treasure.
20-03-2020 04:43:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: updating this is freaking out the pc
20-03-2020 04:44:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Doomed.
20-03-2020 04:45:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: alright
20-03-2020 04:45:10 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: we downloaded it
20-03-2020 04:45:15 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: we installed a day 1 patch
20-03-2020 04:45:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: we updated our drivers
20-03-2020 04:45:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: lets see
20-03-2020 05:01:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I take it it's working.
20-03-2020 05:02:26 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/99WBsOqSujc
20-03-2020 05:02:54 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh yeah doomguy gets an arm blade and giant energy sword btw
20-03-2020 05:03:02 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because that's doom bby~
20-03-2020 05:03:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Mmm.
20-03-2020 05:03:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: that's doom now, yeah.
20-03-2020 05:03:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: eh, can live with it.
20-03-2020 05:03:29 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aw, you're usually more fun to taunt
20-03-2020 05:03:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: fuck cinematic kills, though, slow the game down way too much.
20-03-2020 05:04:04 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sync animation kills are the best thing to happen to 3d action games~
20-03-2020 05:05:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I'd rather keep moving and shooting.
20-03-2020 05:05:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: gimme more of that.
20-03-2020 05:05:26 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the general consensus about doom 2016 seems to be that it's very good and wouldn't be the same without the melee kills
20-03-2020 05:05:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: animations are cool, but after then 50th time, they're just pointless waste.
20-03-2020 05:05:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yes, because it's a poor game propped up by a feature that made it poor.
20-03-2020 05:05:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they do serve a gameplay purpose
20-03-2020 05:05:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yes, the gameplay purpose of not having sufficiently satisfying guns!
20-03-2020 05:06:15 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: your opinion is certainly in the minority
20-03-2020 05:06:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: It's true, though, I'm not suggesting removing them and leaving the rest unchanged.  I'm suggesting removing them, reducing enemy health, and amping up the running and gunning.
20-03-2020 05:07:48 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: plenty of games are just runner shooters. doom has a loop that's more like a character action game or something
20-03-2020 05:08:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and the shooting does feel good, and is mostly what you're doing
20-03-2020 05:09:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: The reason why they made that design choice was based on limitations due to next-gen graphics requiring quite limited enemy numbers, which meant they wanted more oomph per enemy, and the rest was inevitable.
20-03-2020 05:12:24 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and more enemies = better game?
20-03-2020 05:12:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: The new one looks to have more entertaining level design, which if they'd dropped the cinematic kill feature, seems to mean it could be a deeply fun an impressive game.  As is, it's looking better than 2016, but too early to really tell.
20-03-2020 05:12:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: ..Kinda, yeah, I'd rather just lay them out than have to shoot and punch and shoot and punch.
20-03-2020 05:12:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: plus more enemies means you can get flanked and surrounded more often.
20-03-2020 05:14:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: but at least I think it comes down to deliberate design decisions resulting from technical limitations, so it's understandable.
20-03-2020 05:14:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: just not the route I'd have liked.
20-03-2020 05:16:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hey dev, have you played Devil Daggers?
20-03-2020 05:17:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Nope.
20-03-2020 05:17:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: what's it like?
20-03-2020 05:18:13 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/SmkExGLa3AI?t=7
20-03-2020 05:20:15 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: a bunch of low poly skulls try to murder you in a blank void, and you can shoot streams of daggers from your hand, and your score is how long you survive under those conditions
20-03-2020 05:22:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: that looks interesting.
20-03-2020 05:25:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: looks a lot more than that.
20-03-2020 05:26:00 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well yes ;P
20-03-2020 05:31:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, that's more the kind of thing.
20-03-2020 05:31:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: you can have some of that and standard levels too.
20-03-2020 05:31:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well no, devil daggers wouldn't really work as a normal level :P
20-03-2020 05:32:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: You could split elements of it up and convert a lot over.
20-03-2020 05:49:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: How is it, Piecewise?
20-03-2020 05:49:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I'm pretty sure you can turn off the cinematic kills
20-03-2020 05:49:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: does it weaken the enemies when you do that?
20-03-2020 05:49:41 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: saw an option about that in the menu
20-03-2020 05:49:49 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: slap
20-03-2020 05:49:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: No. You can only kill them with the glory kill when they're on the verge of death
20-03-2020 05:50:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: the game emphasizes management of resources really heavily
20-03-2020 05:50:25 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I guess that just replaces the animation with you slapping them
20-03-2020 05:50:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: chainsaw things to get ammo, melee to get health, fire to get armor
20-03-2020 05:50:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: gotta mix it up
20-03-2020 05:51:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Mmm, from what I saw in 2016, verge of death meant 'two shotgun blasts away' or about 1/3 health.
20-03-2020 05:51:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: thats not true at all dev
20-03-2020 05:51:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: least not for anything above a zombie or imp
20-03-2020 05:52:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
20-03-2020 05:52:10 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like one hit for zombies and shit
20-03-2020 05:52:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: it was enough it didn't seem possible to miss a kill by accident.
20-03-2020 05:52:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that seems very possible
20-03-2020 05:52:50 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sometimes they'll just fickin die
20-03-2020 05:52:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: yeah
20-03-2020 05:53:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: often times you'll overkill them and they'll just splat
20-03-2020 05:53:10 < * Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net shrugs.
20-03-2020 05:53:45 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: As far as I know, only the cacaodemon has a dedicated way to stun them
20-03-2020 05:54:08 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: those are funny
20-03-2020 05:54:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: They're very derpy
20-03-2020 05:54:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm
20-03-2020 05:54:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: dunno, gotta go by what I was watching.
20-03-2020 05:55:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's not like your toaster can run it~
20-03-2020 05:55:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I'd say it LOOKS easier than it is
20-03-2020 05:55:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: It looked not trivial, but not really hard unless you put it on the 'you die in two hits' difficult level.
20-03-2020 05:57:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: the game is set up in a rather odd way where your life and ammo are always pretty low, but you can regain them by killing. So its kind of razor edge of continuing to fight and be aggressive so you can survive, but also not being dumb and getting ganked
20-03-2020 05:57:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
20-03-2020 05:57:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: so about resource management instead of conservation, then?
20-03-2020 05:58:34 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's like bloodborne, you're supposed to avoid dying by being in a constant killing motion :P
20-03-2020 05:59:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: you're trying to keep the proverbial plates spinning?
20-03-2020 05:59:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the plates are giant guns
20-03-2020 06:00:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: dunno.  Still seems unnecessary.  Just give me baddies and guns and let me shoot them all the time.
20-03-2020 06:00:49 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: then play devil daggers.
20-03-2020 06:01:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: "Look, there's a fun example of X, therefore it's wrong for you to want X."  ;-p
20-03-2020 06:02:28 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, go play that game and tell me if you like it.
20-03-2020 06:02:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: stoopid
20-03-2020 06:02:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: maybe another time.  Looks interesting.
20-03-2020 06:02:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: I mean...shooting all the time is doom
20-03-2020 06:02:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: anyway, 2016 is better than 3.
20-03-2020 06:03:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I'm willing to go that far.
20-03-2020 06:03:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and I suppose the true successor to doom 2 is doom 2, because people are still making shit for that game
20-03-2020 06:03:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
20-03-2020 06:03:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: There was still room to improve.
20-03-2020 06:04:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes, which is pretty much what modders are all about
20-03-2020 06:04:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I do want a modern shooter where you run at 40mph and shoot dozens of guys with a half-dozen or so big guns.
20-03-2020 06:05:39 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: plenty of indie devs seem to have that aspiration, though most seem to be roguelites for whatever reason and I haven't heard of one that's particularly good
20-03-2020 06:07:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: yeah.
20-03-2020 06:07:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: gotta ditch the levelling element.
20-03-2020 06:08:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: just give people full power guns and spend the effort on three things.  Making them awesome, good map design, and good enemy design.
20-03-2020 06:09:28 -!- MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli has joined #einsteinianroulette
20-03-2020 06:09:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Heya MidJag.
20-03-2020 06:10:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so "do a good game design" :P
20-03-2020 06:10:21 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: hiya dev
20-03-2020 06:11:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: yes.
20-03-2020 06:11:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: lost my TLD savegame to corruption.
20-03-2020 06:11:21 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: aww
20-03-2020 06:11:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: so I'll do a fresh install from scratch and try to get the 3.5 version working.
20-03-2020 06:11:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: make the things that matter good and remove all the other things
20-03-2020 06:11:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: fortunately, saved my standalone file.
20-03-2020 06:11:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yes, it's simple but challenging.
20-03-2020 06:11:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: 'don't get distracted.'
20-03-2020 06:12:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: so I can install it again without repurchasing it.
20-03-2020 06:12:10 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and then people are like "where is my meta progression"
20-03-2020 06:12:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, but I think that devil daggers is a good example of that
20-03-2020 06:12:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Fuck that shit, if the game isn't fun to play you shouldn't have to be bribed into playing it longer.
20-03-2020 06:12:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: it does look interesting.
20-03-2020 06:12:53 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: to the point that they removed... level design
20-03-2020 06:13:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: that might be a step too far.
20-03-2020 06:13:14 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's a circle, and there's enemies, and you shoot them with two weapons
20-03-2020 06:13:24 < MidJag!midjag@68.91.zxq.uli: Apologies, I'm going to bed, just tired and stressed.
20-03-2020 06:13:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: alright, see you
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20-03-2020 06:15:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: ok.
20-03-2020 06:15:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: good luck.
20-03-2020 06:17:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: :-(
20-03-2020 06:17:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I hope he's ok.
20-03-2020 06:17:58 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm
20-03-2020 06:18:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: same for you, ER, stay safe.
20-03-2020 06:18:06 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's a hard time for everyone
20-03-2020 06:18:27 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'll be safe
20-03-2020 06:32:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm, nope, still buggy.  I'll look around.
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20-03-2020 07:49:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: "Game bad because I don't understand game"
20-03-2020 07:49:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: "Game bad because game has different priorities than I like"
20-03-2020 07:50:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: More enemies != better, more enemies == different.
20-03-2020 07:50:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Doom 2016 is more doomy than the vast majority of modern games.  It's not a Doom rehash, and has different priorities.  It's not bad, but it is different.
20-03-2020 07:52:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Far as I could tell, they made no bad design decisions.  They made questionable decisions, but everything had a clear upside and was definitely made in the name of being an enjoyable tradeoff.  ER was a far worse designed game, and yet has received much higher praise from you, Dev.
20-03-2020 07:54:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Damn, I'm too late for the argument, aren't I?
20-03-2020 07:59:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Nah.
20-03-2020 08:00:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Just looking away at the moment, syv.
20-03-2020 08:00:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: yay!
20-03-2020 08:00:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Argue, argue, argue!
20-03-2020 08:00:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: And yeah, I've seen much worse games than 2016.
20-03-2020 08:00:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I did say I understood why they did what they did, right?
20-03-2020 08:01:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Did you?  Awwww.
20-03-2020 08:01:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.
20-03-2020 08:01:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: all except making all the weapon functions unlockable.
20-03-2020 08:02:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: that was dumb.
20-03-2020 08:03:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Nah, that makes sense.
20-03-2020 08:03:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: why?
20-03-2020 08:04:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: it's a gun, if it has a function other than regular fire/alt fire, with maybe a charge ability for some of them, that should be all of them.
20-03-2020 08:05:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Gates advanced functions past the basic functions so that you have to learn the basic weapon, and in some cases also simply acts as a balancing tool so that there can be more of a difficulty curve available.
20-03-2020 08:05:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: If you were given the frag upgrade for the shotgun immediately upon gaining the shotgun, it would be preferentially used over the blast itself during the early game, and leave the player without close range practice.
20-03-2020 08:06:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: so have the grenade launcher be another gun, then.
20-03-2020 08:07:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: ...And the upgrade *is* fun, because it gives a nice kind of cadence to shotgun play.  Too slow to be primary without cautious play, which also allows it to be strong enough to be notable.  There's a very nice cadence to using the shotgun with intermittent fragging.
20-03-2020 08:07:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: If you want to make sure the player understands a situation in which to use the shotgun, do that through level design and loading tips.
20-03-2020 08:07:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Complexity isn't always bad, Dev.
20-03-2020 08:08:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Eh, got intermittant fragging with the infinite use grenades already.
20-03-2020 08:08:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Have you played the game?
20-03-2020 08:08:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: And tried the shotgun frag?
20-03-2020 08:09:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Because throwable grenades and shotgun grenades are very different in function and play.
20-03-2020 08:09:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: almost like different weapons?
20-03-2020 08:10:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Yes, in the sense that a straight sword and a shield are different weapons in DaS.
20-03-2020 08:11:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I just don't get why you can't teach the player through map design, if it's so important to have them not use the frag mode.
20-03-2020 08:11:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: People absolutely do shield-only runs, as well as sword-only runs, but that's not really an argument in favor of making it impossible to use both a sword and shield.
20-03-2020 08:11:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Well.. that's what you're suggesting.
20-03-2020 08:11:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: to not have both options immediately.
20-03-2020 08:12:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: and if that is that important, why not split the weapons?
20-03-2020 08:12:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.tim: Amusingly I've long felt that DaS is much too free with good shields.
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20-03-2020 08:13:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: (syv) Amusingly I've long felt that DaS is much too free with good shields.
20-03-2020 08:13:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
20-03-2020 08:13:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I liked how DaS 2 didn't give a decent 100% block shield until the very end of the first/second large area, and even then it was hidden in a dropoff.
20-03-2020 08:14:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: That's not to say 100% block shields are bad--but given before the player understands rolling, they can teach bad habits.
20-03-2020 08:14:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: like never blocking?
20-03-2020 08:15:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: That doesn't follow grammatically from what I said, but yes, the intended meaning is correct.
20-03-2020 08:15:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Nah, I think you can get away with that for a sequel.
20-03-2020 08:15:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: But for the first game you should make the simplest option accessable.
20-03-2020 08:16:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: The problem is that the simplest option is simply less fun and interesting.  The game is better off when played in certain ways, its strengths aren't apparent if you ignore core mechanics.
20-03-2020 08:17:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: In D2016's case, the frag shotgun can oneshot imps at a good range, pretty much at a click.  Early on, imps are the primary opponent, and you only have the shotgun to deal with them.  They're not too dangerous, but you have to learn to deal with a projectile launching enemy who can be very damaging in melee.
20-03-2020 08:18:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Given a short ranged weapon, you naturally have to learn how to meld manuever with offense.
20-03-2020 08:18:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: so maybe the normal shotty should be able to oneshot imps too..
20-03-2020 08:18:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: If you were given the frag though, the easiest option would be to constantly run away, while pausing occasionally to aim, without having to meld offense and defense.
20-03-2020 08:18:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: This point stands whether it can oneshot them or not.
20-03-2020 08:18:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Also I think it can at point blank?  I forget.
20-03-2020 08:19:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: It's like three shots.
20-03-2020 08:19:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I just know they're gibbed at any range if you direct hit with the frag.
20-03-2020 08:19:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Huh.  Well, it works gameplay wise.
20-03-2020 08:19:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it would be weird if you couldn't oneshot an imp with a shotgun
20-03-2020 08:19:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yes, it is weird.
20-03-2020 08:19:58 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hello
20-03-2020 08:20:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: instead they chose to make you unlock the ability to one-shot imps with a shotgun.
20-03-2020 08:21:17 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's gating complexity to teach the player how to play in the intended way, rather than just yelling at them in tutorial texts
20-03-2020 08:21:25 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this is generally seen as good game design
20-03-2020 08:21:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: a good example is portal
20-03-2020 08:21:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, but you have other, shitty choices.
20-03-2020 08:21:50 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it only shows you mechanics gradually, so that you can understand them
20-03-2020 08:22:18 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so you do concede that the shotgun upgrade choice is good design?
20-03-2020 08:22:21 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cool!
20-03-2020 08:22:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: No, it's terrible.
20-03-2020 08:23:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I googled it, shotguns do oneshot imps in 2016.
20-03-2020 08:23:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: It's making a very strong upgrade optional, when it's only preventing you from using an ability you should have already.  If they wanted more dealing with imps with weak weapons, that should be time with the pistol only.
20-03-2020 08:23:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Then what was I watching?  It was like three hits, dammit.
20-03-2020 08:23:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Nightmare run, probably.
20-03-2020 08:23:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Difficulty levels multiply enemy HP.
20-03-2020 08:23:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: That's stupid.
20-03-2020 08:23:59 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mhm
20-03-2020 08:24:14 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: do you two want to recommend me games to play?
20-03-2020 08:24:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: No wonder I thought it was slow.
20-03-2020 08:24:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: everything was like three times as strong as it should be.
20-03-2020 08:25:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I thought it was so you'd shoot it once and then autokill it.
20-03-2020 08:25:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Yeah, it's super weird that developers put in basic features that the vast majority of the audience wants and enjoys, like difficulty levels that multiply hitpoints.
20-03-2020 08:25:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: much better to multiply enemies than hitpoints..
20-03-2020 08:26:16 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: TEN THOUSAND DRAGONBUTTS
20-03-2020 08:26:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: That requires substantially more development time and playtesting.
20-03-2020 08:26:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: It's a tradeoff.
20-03-2020 08:26:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Customizing the entire game to have varying difficulty by situation is objectively better than simply running a script on stats.
20-03-2020 08:27:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: However, it's a lot more work, and doesn't really do the primary purpose of difficulty levels *that* much better.
20-03-2020 08:27:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: more dodging..
20-03-2020 08:27:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: more benefit to efficient killing.
20-03-2020 08:27:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: eh
20-03-2020 08:27:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: You can't just say "every enemy spawn is doubled" though, that's the problem.
20-03-2020 08:28:08 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: max difficulty in doom seems to be "play perfectly or die, fkin scrub", which is fair enough
20-03-2020 08:28:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: well, no.
20-03-2020 08:28:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: you do it like doom.
20-03-2020 08:28:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: It can completely skew the game balance in unpredictable ways.
20-03-2020 08:28:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: place all the enemies for max difficulty first.
20-03-2020 08:28:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mark half of them as not spawning on lower levels.
20-03-2020 08:29:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, it isn't nothing.
20-03-2020 08:29:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: but it isn't that hard.
20-03-2020 08:29:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: From what I recall, OG doom actually didn't do that.  Every monster was flagged for a variety of difficulty levels, and they changed the enemy compositions at lower levels too.  Mostly, just reduced numbers, but also downgraded and altered.
20-03-2020 08:30:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: well, in the case of downgraded, they'd have a big enemy for top and a lesser enemy for middle.
20-03-2020 08:31:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Same idea, really.
20-03-2020 08:31:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, it isn't exactly the same, but is it that hard?
20-03-2020 08:32:37 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: in game dev, assume everything to be horribly frustrating
20-03-2020 08:33:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Yeah, that's true.
20-03-2020 08:33:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I do think there's value to lower difficulty levels--a crappy player can still have the experience of fighting a horde, which is more fun.
20-03-2020 08:34:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I might love DaS, but I don't really believe in gating good games away from bad players.
20-03-2020 08:34:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, but I'm not saying no low difficulty level.
20-03-2020 08:34:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but dark souls is easy! ;P
20-03-2020 08:34:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: And you already pointed out why the can't just have the highest difficulty level be complete monster spam.  It just wouldn't be able to run consistently at high FPS on all computers.
20-03-2020 08:34:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I'm just saying that a higher difficulty level is a lot more fun with many enemies than the same number of super-tough enemies.
20-03-2020 08:35:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: and yeah, back to 'we can't have lots of monsters' again.
20-03-2020 08:35:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Eh, sure, I'll agree.  It's a tradeoff between the game looking good and having a somewhat different high-level playstyle.
20-03-2020 08:35:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I'd prefer more monsters as well, but I think they made the right choice.
20-03-2020 08:37:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: ...Egan also kinda has a point, I suppose.  Bad players can beat DaS if they really want by leveling out of challenges.  Unless you're just *terrible*, or give up, you'll snowball levels.
20-03-2020 08:37:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Sekiro's a better example there.
20-03-2020 08:37:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
20-03-2020 08:37:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Sekiro just says "fuck you git gud"
20-03-2020 08:37:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also summons are easy mode
20-03-2020 08:37:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Ahh, yeah.
20-03-2020 08:37:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Also something lacking in Sekiro.
20-03-2020 08:38:02 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Sekiro is a dick, but I also feel good for having smeched it myself
20-03-2020 08:38:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: pro gamer
20-03-2020 08:38:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Now learn AoTTG
20-03-2020 08:38:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
20-03-2020 08:38:51 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and... I dunno, it kinda feels like if Sekiro had options to make it easier, fewer people would have experinced the joy of having those mechanics click for them
20-03-2020 08:39:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Ehhh.
20-03-2020 08:39:57 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how worth it is it for more people to beat the game, if they don't have a good time doing so?
20-03-2020 08:40:54 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Sekrio is all about rhythmic swordfighting, how much fun would it be if you didn't have to execute it properly?
20-03-2020 08:41:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: No, I atually think Sekiro would be better off with a more DaSy progression.
20-03-2020 08:42:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Not entirely DaSy--there's still core difficulty gating--but ISS would be better in broad if he didn't require so much perfection IMO.
20-03-2020 08:42:21 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I feel a slight comfort in knowing that there's no way for me to be underleveled or overleveled :P
20-03-2020 08:42:39 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's an aspect of the game which didn't need to be there for me, removed
20-03-2020 08:42:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: You can totally be underleveled in Sekiro.
20-03-2020 08:43:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Gourd seeds and beads are collectibles, and missing them can very much change the game and make it harder.
20-03-2020 08:43:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I think Demon oneshots on slides if you don't have at least nine necklaces?
20-03-2020 08:44:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mm
20-03-2020 08:44:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: "Why not just make weapons separate"
20-03-2020 08:44:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Bah, Sekiro went that route, and it's purely hurt for it.
20-03-2020 08:44:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: ..yeah, it's more a question of 'why have weapons that aren't good enough.'
20-03-2020 08:44:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Want to use multiple combat arts?  Nah.  Choose one.
20-03-2020 08:44:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: but if all HP was tripled, that changes the argument.
20-03-2020 08:45:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: because it was good enough.
20-03-2020 08:45:10 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mm
20-03-2020 08:45:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Yes, back to "play the game before you start criticizing all its flaws".
20-03-2020 08:45:33 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'd argue that all the weapons in doom feel good and powerful, even the pistol
20-03-2020 08:45:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Again, I'm not really a fan of Doom 2016.  It was about as fun as the average CoD for me, maybe a bit moreso.
20-03-2020 08:45:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: But I think it was excellently made.
20-03-2020 08:46:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: How did you feel about the plasma rifle?
20-03-2020 08:46:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I never liked it.  The rocket launcher also felt weak to me.
20-03-2020 08:46:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Though I think that's just because Doom always has a weak rocket.
20-03-2020 08:47:30 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I never played it. me and dev are both critiqueing a game we've never played >.>
20-03-2020 08:47:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: heh
20-03-2020 08:47:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but I have seen it in action, and I say them's good weapons
20-03-2020 08:47:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: :-|
20-03-2020 08:48:13 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe it changed a little bit, but the plasma rifle in Eternal looks pretty good
20-03-2020 08:48:31 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fool, you thought that I played video games?
20-03-2020 08:48:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: what I saw of eternal looks better than 2016, but I haven't seen much yet.
20-03-2020 08:50:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I'll wait for dubs to review and recommend it, then pirate Nier: Automata.
20-03-2020 08:51:15 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nier! :D
20-03-2020 08:51:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Ass.
20-03-2020 08:51:33 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: or is it neir :thinking:
20-03-2020 08:52:15 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'll have you know that I spent none of my very enjoyable time with nearatomato looking at 2b's butt
20-03-2020 08:52:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I'll have you know you were missing out.
20-03-2020 08:53:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is it not enough to simply know butt is there
20-03-2020 08:54:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
20-03-2020 08:56:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Well, yes.
20-03-2020 08:56:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I'm not gonna play N:Ass because it has a nice ass.
20-03-2020 08:56:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you better not
20-03-2020 08:56:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Maybe if 2B had nice tits it'd be a different story, but no.  I'd play the game because I really like MoS' song about it.
20-03-2020 08:56:52 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heh
20-03-2020 09:08:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: nah, tits don't matter, facing away from the camera.
20-03-2020 09:08:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: ;-p
20-03-2020 09:09:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: See, that logically makes sense.
20-03-2020 09:09:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: But "This game has nice tits, maybe I should try it" is not even vaugely a logical statement.
20-03-2020 09:10:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm
20-03-2020 09:12:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I suppose that if the relevant quality you're looking for is good boobs, then what you're looking for isn't a game
20-03-2020 09:12:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: In general.
20-03-2020 09:13:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Definitely aren't mutually exclusive, though.
20-03-2020 09:13:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: there are games with boobs in them, yes.
20-03-2020 09:13:38 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: boobs in games? I've never noticed such a thing.
20-03-2020 09:13:57 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: pretty sure videogames only ever feature men and flat women
20-03-2020 09:14:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: "I assumed those were merely grotesquely overemphasized pecs"
20-03-2020 09:14:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Yes.
20-03-2020 09:14:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: and robots.
20-03-2020 09:14:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: and spaceships.
20-03-2020 09:14:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm
20-03-2020 09:14:55 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but robots usually have giant boobs
20-03-2020 09:15:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: We should watch some Futurama..
20-03-2020 09:15:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Which is why Optimus Prime had to wear a bra in the Michael Bay movies.
20-03-2020 09:15:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I don't disagree.
20-03-2020 09:15:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: that was a good show.
20-03-2020 09:26:16 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mm hmm
20-03-2020 09:28:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: My cat, watching as I walk out the door: "There is a new and exciting land beyond!  Ripe for exploration, full of wonder!  I must see!"
20-03-2020 09:29:15 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: full of things to chew on
20-03-2020 09:29:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Also my cat, after it has gone one foot beyond the door: "This is a terrible and cursed land!  I must flee and find a place to hide, ere the screaming featherbeasts consume my delicious flesh!"
20-03-2020 09:29:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: caw
20-03-2020 09:30:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Hah.
20-03-2020 09:30:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Never had a cat like that, but I can imagine one.
20-03-2020 09:30:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Cue crawling around under the house until I can find the dumb fuzzy idiot shivering next to a cinderblock.
20-03-2020 09:30:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: so it doesn't run back inside?
20-03-2020 09:30:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: (This didn't just happen, but it almost did)
20-03-2020 09:30:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Nope.
20-03-2020 09:30:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: ..don't you have like 39 cats?
20-03-2020 09:31:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Not right now, no.
20-03-2020 09:31:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Most of the outdoor cats died in the last hurricane.  :(
20-03-2020 09:31:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: did some get eaten by screaming featherbeasts?
20-03-2020 09:31:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Probably.
20-03-2020 09:31:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: aww.
20-03-2020 09:31:56 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's a selection pressure and now you're stuck with only the cowards
20-03-2020 09:32:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Nah, these ones are just coddled.
20-03-2020 09:32:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Coddled little babies that weigh almost twenty pounds apiece.
20-03-2020 09:32:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Could beat the birds to death EASILY, but no, no, scary noise.
20-03-2020 09:33:10 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: all beings should fear the caw
20-03-2020 09:33:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: You know it might be illegal, but you could just have a pet crow, ER.
20-03-2020 09:35:08 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: now, why would I get earth's new dominant life forms angry at me by locking on inside my shitty hovel?
20-03-2020 09:35:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: you don't have to do that.
20-03-2020 09:35:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: you raise it indoors, yeah.
20-03-2020 09:36:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Birds are already raised in very shitty hovels.  Where the roof is so leaky it's not even really a roof.  It'd be an upgrade.
20-03-2020 09:38:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also pretty sure that "don't fuck with the birds" is a big federal law and I don't want to mess with the us feds almost as much as I don't want to mess with the corvids
20-03-2020 09:38:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Though I suspect crows would be high maintenence pets.  They're flocking birds, right?  And super clever, so containment would be difficult.  And then they don't have any ingrained pooping habits.
20-03-2020 09:38:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: crows aren't high maintenence.  They mostly just want to be fed, and you can feed them outside.
20-03-2020 09:38:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Could you litterbox train a crow, just because they're smart?
20-03-2020 09:38:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: And they're okay with having you as a flock, sometimes.
20-03-2020 09:38:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: basically you let them go after a year and about half of them will decide to stay with you.
20-03-2020 09:39:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I thought most flocking birds required a lot of attention.
20-03-2020 09:39:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: Dunno about litter training.  They might not have the muscles to actually contain it.
20-03-2020 09:39:08 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: eh. what I really need to do if always have tasty snacks in my pockets
20-03-2020 09:39:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: It takes a lot of attention while it's a baby, yes.
20-03-2020 09:39:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: after that, not so much.
20-03-2020 09:41:14 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, I'm saying that stealing a baby crow is going to evoke the ire of multiple forces greater than myself
20-03-2020 09:41:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: you steal an egg.
20-03-2020 09:41:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: and they care about it for like an hour.
20-03-2020 09:43:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: because they lay several eggs.
20-03-2020 09:49:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: And the Feds care about it forever.
20-03-2020 09:49:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Also because they lay several eggs.
20-03-2020 09:50:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, I suppose they would.
20-03-2020 09:58:21 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: [angry noises]
20-03-2020 09:58:44 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just because I'm a little depressed doesn't mean that it should be impossible for me to write!
20-03-2020 09:58:50 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who balanced this game!
20-03-2020 09:59:08 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this isn't even a hard task!
20-03-2020 10:00:18 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: please buff my brain
20-03-2020 10:00:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Writing is really weird.
20-03-2020 10:00:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Some people do it as a way to deal with emotions.
20-03-2020 10:00:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Torture Stephen King for a month and at the end you'll have a great book.
20-03-2020 10:00:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Other people see to just write because it's fun.
20-03-2020 10:01:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: And then there's us, people who try to write and then start screaming.
20-03-2020 10:01:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Have you tried chewing gum?
20-03-2020 10:01:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: It works ridiculously well for me.
20-03-2020 10:01:54 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: write a good book, and by the end you'll have a month of torture
20-03-2020 10:02:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: By which I mean I can't update PS without chewing gum.
20-03-2020 10:02:31 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't ever buy gum because it annoys me that it's artifically sweetened
20-03-2020 10:02:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: for some reason
20-03-2020 10:02:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Pretty sure that you can buy gum base.
20-03-2020 10:03:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: by which I mean for somre reason I hate that, and for some reason I've never seen gum with real fucking sugar in it
20-03-2020 10:03:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: I've been tempted to, because I usually chew it long past complete loss of flavor.
20-03-2020 10:03:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: okay.
20-03-2020 10:03:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: well, welcome to america.
20-03-2020 10:03:28 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this is america
20-03-2020 10:03:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: You're also in america, dev.
20-03-2020 10:03:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: I'm in America's Hat.
20-03-2020 10:03:49 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm going to go for a walk
20-03-2020 10:03:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: ok.
20-03-2020 10:03:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Have fun
20-03-2020 10:04:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Bring some snacks for the birds
20-03-2020 10:04:28 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what do I have that they would like, I wonder
20-03-2020 10:05:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Nuts?
20-03-2020 10:06:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: well, it's march, so breeding season.
20-03-2020 10:06:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: so food.
20-03-2020 10:06:51 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: once I work out how to talk with them I'll have to ask what kinds of food they like best
20-03-2020 10:06:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: 'rotten stuff'
20-03-2020 10:07:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: 'french fries'
20-03-2020 10:08:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I wonder how strange people woulld think I am if I fried a bunch of potato bits purely to feed to crows
20-03-2020 10:08:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: that's maaaaybe a 1.9 on the 10 point weirdness scale.
20-03-2020 10:09:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Birds do love french fries.
20-03-2020 10:11:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: they're made of easy to digest plants AND there's a lot of fat on them!
20-03-2020 10:11:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: good stuff.
20-03-2020 10:51:58 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think that walk convinced me that my problem is that I need to go to bed
20-03-2020 10:52:17 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also, got an idea for a strange... fairy tale, I guess.
20-03-2020 10:52:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Oh?
20-03-2020 10:53:53 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: about a youth who meets a spirit who plays an instrument, and loves to perform for an audeince but nobody else can see
20-03-2020 10:54:58 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so the spirit and the youth play music together, and everyone loves it, but the spirit wants the youth to give it credit for its work, and the youth refuses because nobody would believe them
20-03-2020 10:55:09 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so the spirit gets mad and leaves
20-03-2020 10:56:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: mmm
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20-03-2020 11:02:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: Aww
20-03-2020 11:02:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@krtzfe-013-579-593-20.mycingular.net: That's sad.
20-03-2020 11:02:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: most fairy tales are sad.
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20-03-2020 11:03:47 < er!androirc@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It is? I guess so.
20-03-2020 11:04:11 < er!androirc@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It felt neutral, so I guess I was already feeling sad
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20-03-2020 11:07:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: got the happy times.
20-03-2020 11:07:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@jsxe-5d4et9fp1qbs6zftda00ke2ne.ipv6.telus.net: so not really that bad.
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20-03-2020 11:31:44 < sy!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hks.ys: You know, I'd think my cell reception would improve with the Coronavirus.  Less cars driving on highways, less competition for data and whatever.  Or something like that.
20-03-2020 11:31:50 < sy!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hks.ys: Fuck yoouuu AT&T
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20-03-2020 20:57:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: posted the battle of new york.
20-03-2020 21:25:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: hmm.
20-03-2020 22:24:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: odd time for syv.
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20-03-2020 22:58:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Hey Irony.
20-03-2020 22:58:15 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: hey
20-03-2020 22:58:22 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: we liiiiiiiiiive!
20-03-2020 22:58:35 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: thing was armored but apparently had trouble landing a hit?
20-03-2020 22:59:11 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: and I finally got to use a tank without losing it
20-03-2020 22:59:14 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: much happiness
20-03-2020 22:59:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Yeah.  Looking at how I rolled it up, the weapon should have been either a bit more powerful or with a bit more aoe.
20-03-2020 22:59:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I'll make that adjustment in addition to the normal change made by the opfor.
20-03-2020 22:59:59 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: spreading out the artillery also seemed to serve us well... not that the artillery served us all that well
20-03-2020 23:00:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: didn't make a difference, actually, it didn't shoot at the arty.
20-03-2020 23:05:39 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: ah, so MAXIMUM KILL would have been the correct decision after all
20-03-2020 23:11:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: well, no, if your one missed shot hurt the kaiju, it might have made a shot on all four arty pieces.
20-03-2020 23:11:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@97-298-06-4.lsv2.qwest.net: Do I have machinegun wasps yet?
20-03-2020 23:12:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Dunno, I'll do you guys next.
20-03-2020 23:12:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: but probably.  I think you got a bunch of flesh and basic machineguns are well within reach.
20-03-2020 23:12:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: so they'll be armed this turn.
20-03-2020 23:13:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: what you gonna do with machinegun wasps bonesy?
20-03-2020 23:13:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I got the numbers right here, actually, to see if that extra shot would tink.
20-03-2020 23:13:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Rolling.. no shot available.
20-03-2020 23:18:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Sorry.
20-03-2020 23:19:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: any more questions?
20-03-2020 23:20:30 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: Just the stuff we're gonna get later
20-03-2020 23:20:34 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: (the swag)
20-03-2020 23:21:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: mmm, a bunch.
20-03-2020 23:21:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I'll do yours now since you're on.
20-03-2020 23:22:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: 2x muscle.
20-03-2020 23:22:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: eh, lets do everyone.
20-03-2020 23:22:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: ER has infantry, so gets two.
20-03-2020 23:23:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: 1x Skin, 1x Fat.
20-03-2020 23:23:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: no, you don't have infantry, do you.
20-03-2020 23:24:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: then just one muscle.
20-03-2020 23:24:08 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: oh, is that how infantry works?
20-03-2020 23:24:21 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: at least one gives you +1 part, or you get +1 part per infantry, or...?
20-03-2020 23:24:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: you get +1 for having infantry.
20-03-2020 23:24:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: and it gives you +1 to recovering destroyed stuff.
20-03-2020 23:25:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Syv gets 1x Muscle and 1x Guts.
20-03-2020 23:25:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: CK are 1x Skin and 1x Muscle
20-03-2020 23:25:52 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: is that infantry or *surviving* infantry?
20-03-2020 23:26:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Ares gets 1x Skin and 1x Bone.
20-03-2020 23:26:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: You have to have infantry around at the end of the battle.
20-03-2020 23:26:16 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: ah, I see
20-03-2020 23:26:27 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: hrm hrm, will need to keep that in mind then
20-03-2020 23:26:37 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: looks like I have even more interest in ER's catgirls then
20-03-2020 23:26:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Eh, maybe you don't need as much stuff.
20-03-2020 23:26:51 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: well, that's true
20-03-2020 23:26:59 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: over capacity as is
20-03-2020 23:27:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: but you can sell extras.
20-03-2020 23:27:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: and I think the only special roll I've had was your acid gland.
20-03-2020 23:27:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: which has been oddly bad so far.
20-03-2020 23:28:03 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: does more parts give more chances for special rolls?
20-03-2020 23:28:25 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: and yeah, this thing's sonic attack or armor plating (or whatever that ripple-regen was) coulda been real neat
20-03-2020 23:28:51 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: ...hmmmmm, kaiju fat
20-03-2020 23:28:54 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: never had that before
20-03-2020 23:28:57 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I wonder
20-03-2020 23:29:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: It's not rare!
20-03-2020 23:29:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Mmm.
20-03-2020 23:30:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: I gotta ask the guy with the deathwagon if he wants to put it down or bring it back to base where it'll likely rip and tear it's way to an escape, destroying a building.
20-03-2020 23:30:47 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: oh right, I forgot the deathwagon was... ALIVE
20-03-2020 23:31:00 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: well, I'm sure that'll never be a problem for me
20-03-2020 23:31:04 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: PW GIMME YOUR WASPS
20-03-2020 23:31:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Yeah, want an answer there because I gotta calculate it's escape if he hauls it back.
20-03-2020 23:44:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Then I can do the sheets for the organizations and tackle the mad scientists.
20-03-2020 23:49:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: ..and oop.
20-03-2020 23:50:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: welp, lets see what it breaks.
20-03-2020 23:55:26 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: Both he and the beast went with 'yes'?
20-03-2020 23:57:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: Yeah, but it only breaks one building this turn.  It is less hazardous when damaged.
20-03-2020 23:57:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: ..but if it breaks one that's not fixed, it's out.
20-03-2020 23:58:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@l450-546-43-71.bchsia.telus.net: and.. that's a damaged building, so that's gone and it's out.