30-01-2020 00:55:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: heya. 30-01-2020 00:55:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: so.. zavi going to convert the pile? 30-01-2020 00:56:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: gonna ask Ekrov if that's safe, y'know. 30-01-2020 00:56:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: Also 30-01-2020 00:57:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: http://www.smbc-comics.com/ 30-01-2020 00:57:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: looks like someone agrees with me. 30-01-2020 00:57:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: ;-p 30-01-2020 00:59:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I'm.. not inclined to let that happen after Ekrov went three-eyed and sideways with 300 mana. 30-01-2020 01:00:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I mean, the pile might have 50,000. 30-01-2020 01:00:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: kaboom. 30-01-2020 01:01:12 -!- Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 30-01-2020 01:01:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I'll go say it in-thread. 30-01-2020 01:01:31 -!- er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 30-01-2020 01:05:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: If you're in that much of a hurry, I could jsut give you a barrel and send you off. Don't need to stay around. 30-01-2020 01:08:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: was planning on going off and selling stuff, so you can go with like right now if you want. 30-01-2020 01:12:38 -!- Elasticly_Rigid is now known as er 30-01-2020 01:15:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: srs, I'm up for converting a lot of mana, giving it to Ekrov, and sending you off. Just gotta ask if you'll lie and say we only found a much smaller amount of magicoal. 30-01-2020 01:19:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: just let her know Zavi wants to get out fast, and I'll give orders to get stuff together today so Zavi can leave. 30-01-2020 01:19:49 < er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: I don't? 30-01-2020 01:19:57 < er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: Why do you think that? 30-01-2020 01:20:31 -!- er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 30-01-2020 01:21:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: The flow of time is convoluted in this land. By which I mean it's going too damn slowly 30-01-2020 01:34:09 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: I'll just post once a month~ 30-01-2020 01:34:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: heh. 30-01-2020 01:34:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: so carrying around too much mana for too long does things? 30-01-2020 02:15:24 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Yes 30-01-2020 02:15:32 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Its never really been an issue till now 30-01-2020 02:17:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: mmm. 30-01-2020 02:17:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: well, most saeko ever had was 270-ish. 30-01-2020 02:17:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: but most of that got spent. 30-01-2020 02:18:09 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: yeah, its End reliant 30-01-2020 02:18:31 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: you, mr. Endy boots, have a bit of an advantage 30-01-2020 02:19:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: yay. 30-01-2020 02:19:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: Ekrov had d4 at char creation, IIRC. 30-01-2020 02:20:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: ugh, I don't want to risk making a hole in the world, dammit. 30-01-2020 02:21:28 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: *Poke* 30-01-2020 02:21:28 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: boom 30-01-2020 02:22:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: yeah. 30-01-2020 02:22:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: seems likely. 30-01-2020 02:22:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I mean, if 1300 is elephant through a straw, what's 50k? 30-01-2020 02:23:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: or god knows how much. 30-01-2020 02:32:31 -!- ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 30-01-2020 02:32:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that was IRL, dev 30-01-2020 02:32:56 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: time was moving too damn slowly in real life 30-01-2020 02:33:57 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Have you tried cocaine? 30-01-2020 02:34:06 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: at work? 30-01-2020 02:34:34 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also no, that's additive and redundant with caffiene~ 30-01-2020 02:36:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: ahh. 30-01-2020 02:36:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: ahh, sorry, ER. 30-01-2020 02:37:14 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm absolutely willing to be patient in Cabal :P 30-01-2020 02:37:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: ok. 30-01-2020 02:37:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: because, no offense, I still think trying to drain big pile is boomy. 30-01-2020 02:37:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: esp since I think Ekrov will do the same thing. 30-01-2020 02:38:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: could crush some magicoal or try to drain some thaum instead. 30-01-2020 02:40:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: but happy to RP through it. 30-01-2020 04:06:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this mystvale game is very... words words words 30-01-2020 04:06:56 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ville 30-01-2020 04:10:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I thought you were pro-words. 30-01-2020 04:10:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: with all that homestuck. 30-01-2020 04:11:10 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: with homestuck at least they're proofwritten >:V 30-01-2020 04:11:43 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Some people use too many words but forget to do punctuation or to spell things right. 30-01-2020 04:12:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and there's at least 10 players, and like half of them are escaped lunatics, drawn from who knows where 30-01-2020 04:12:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: ooh. 30-01-2020 04:12:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: need some more lunatics. 30-01-2020 04:18:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you do? 30-01-2020 04:19:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: yeah, always need fresh blood. 30-01-2020 04:19:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: and I'm an old guy, as you know. 30-01-2020 04:20:10 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so you're a lich, and you survive off the blood of escaped lunatics? 30-01-2020 04:21:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "the guilds and temples and adventurer parties and pets release which also has artifact heists and extensive historical villainy, with lots of new mostly evil magical stuff" 30-01-2020 04:21:47 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, DF feature releases are never small, are they? 30-01-2020 04:21:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: :-( 30-01-2020 04:21:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I like building forts.. 30-01-2020 04:22:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: magic makes for less fort-building. 30-01-2020 04:22:17 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: go play gnomoria or something you nerd 30-01-2020 04:27:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: ugh. 30-01-2020 04:31:56 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hah 30-01-2020 04:32:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: now NPCs caan get tired of your conversation with them and leave! 30-01-2020 04:32:21 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this is great 30-01-2020 04:50:30 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh uh, that's a lot of goblin pits 30-01-2020 04:56:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I just watched a fortress get taken over, and the mountin biome around it slowly turn purple from demonic corruption. 30-01-2020 04:57:06 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe I should stop the world here in the hopes of having people to play as :V 30-01-2020 05:00:34 -!- Whisperling!Mibbit@215.sub-719-815-0.myvzw.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 30-01-2020 05:01:17 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: welp, goblin human or intelligent wilderness creature. :P 30-01-2020 05:01:23 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hello Whisperling 30-01-2020 05:01:47 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and I suspect not many humans around from what I saw during wold gen. 30-01-2020 05:02:05 < Whisperling!Mibbit@215.sub-719-815-0.myvzw.com: Hi there. 30-01-2020 05:02:14 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Maybe I just got all demon overlords with OP powers or something? 30-01-2020 05:02:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I saw mountains get currupted into evil biome after a dwarf fort got conquered. 30-01-2020 05:03:06 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: welp, maybe I can make some human heros and go fight goblins then. 30-01-2020 05:03:28 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wait no, human outsider 30-01-2020 05:03:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so yeah, everyone's dead. 30-01-2020 05:04:02 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, but it doesn't let you start as an evil civ member, so 30-01-2020 05:04:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I guess there's a surviving civ that started as something else and has only goblins now. :V 30-01-2020 05:11:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "The Demomonation of Burying is a religion whose adherents worship Sor Deadburied the Fated Bones, the human goddess of death and suicide." 30-01-2020 05:14:51 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the only dwarven god I can choose is the god of chaos 30-01-2020 05:15:37 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no wait, the other dwarven god is worshipped as part of a religion 30-01-2020 05:28:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh 30-01-2020 05:28:25 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "warrior of donashode" as an intelligent wilderness creature 30-01-2020 05:28:38 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is that an angel maybe? 30-01-2020 05:28:56 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who... broke out of its vault and started wandering the world? 30-01-2020 05:35:53 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and I can buy donashode's creature leather 30-01-2020 05:35:57 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: DF is an odd game 30-01-2020 05:41:51 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh 30-01-2020 05:42:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: horses are too expensive for my peasant to start with one 30-01-2020 05:42:07 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who knew 30-01-2020 05:56:30 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: You: How are the feeling right now? 30-01-2020 05:56:53 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Olo (my party member): There's no room for mercy in this world. 30-01-2020 06:20:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: Heya. 30-01-2020 06:20:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: good to see you. 30-01-2020 06:21:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: so what can my character do now? That ritual implied some things, but I'm not quite sure. 30-01-2020 06:21:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I'm going to order to test stuff out next turn anyway. 30-01-2020 06:26:14 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh has joined #einsteinianroulette 30-01-2020 06:28:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: hey syv. 30-01-2020 06:28:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heyy 30-01-2020 06:28:47 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: me playing DF 30-01-2020 06:28:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: ayye. 30-01-2020 06:29:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: hey dev. 30-01-2020 06:29:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah, new release, I see. Awesome. 30-01-2020 06:29:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I'll probably play it myself... next month. 30-01-2020 06:29:33 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm a goblin, and I have a goblin friend and we're going to go kill the goblins 30-01-2020 06:29:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because uh 30-01-2020 06:29:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: everyone but the goblins are dead 30-01-2020 06:29:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: Apparently ER wants to emulate me. 30-01-2020 06:30:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: That sounds like goblins, except for the oddity of the goblins actually being goblins and not elves. 30-01-2020 06:31:00 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think they might get a boost from their demon overlords being able to do MAGIC 30-01-2020 06:32:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: "(*) Romantic relationship changes (multiple lovers, affairs, children outside marriage, divorces, etc.) as well as other relationship changes and details (friendship/rival types, variables like trust, respect and loyalty)" 30-01-2020 06:32:52 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: :) 30-01-2020 06:32:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: This is actually one of the most notable changes to me. 30-01-2020 06:33:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, it's nice 30-01-2020 06:33:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I've always felt sorry for dwarves with uber-monogamy. 30-01-2020 06:33:50 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: game won't be worth playing till my adventurer can FALL IN LOOOOOVE but it's a step in that vague direction~ 30-01-2020 06:34:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: "The interaction examples are the most excited I've been for an update in... well, years, obviously. This is the best modding update since 2012." -Putnam 30-01-2020 06:34:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I'll take his word for it, and considering who he is, that's super damn exciting. 30-01-2020 06:34:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: Fuck modding. 30-01-2020 06:35:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: :-( 30-01-2020 06:35:06 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: lel 30-01-2020 06:35:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Fuck *you*. 30-01-2020 06:36:16 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ^ 30-01-2020 06:41:31 -!- Piecewise_!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 30-01-2020 06:43:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: yeah, fair point. 30-01-2020 06:43:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I hate splitting the community, though. 30-01-2020 06:45:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I suppose you must REALLY hate FG&RP, then. 30-01-2020 06:48:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: mmm. 30-01-2020 06:48:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: maybe a bit? But they bring in new people. 30-01-2020 06:48:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I suppose so do mods. 30-01-2020 06:53:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah. A *lot* of people are brought in by the newbie targeted mods. I know in the past, it's been pretty common to hear newbies mentioning that they got started with the LNP, which is kinda a no-brainer really. 30-01-2020 06:53:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Then there's also people having more retention with mods, because they extend the replayability of the game. More/different stories, as well. 30-01-2020 06:54:38 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: stupid goblins and their stupid trenches 30-01-2020 06:54:47 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: why do they even make these 30-01-2020 06:54:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Masterwork fixes some severe bugs, and makes the game run faster, so that helps retention in some cases. Too many people swear by masterwork and consider the base game unplayable, and I don't think all of them would just be vanilla players of it didn't exist. 30-01-2020 06:55:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: And all-in-all, people playing mods *are still playing Dwarf Fortress*, and are still heavily involved with the DF forum segments, because stuff in 90% the same. People playing forum games, and other stuff in Finally? Well, look at my sig. 30-01-2020 06:56:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: "Oh, believe me, I tried to play Dwarf Fortress. I really respect it, but I eventually found making my own game was easier than properly learning to play " 30-01-2020 06:56:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Plenty of people down in Finally who don't even know how to play. 30-01-2020 06:57:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ER, does it run at a functional framerate? I can't recall going into a goblin area and having the game actually be playable, ever since trenches were added. 30-01-2020 07:16:23 -!- Whisperling!Mibbit@215.sub-719-815-0.myvzw.com has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 30-01-2020 07:26:34 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: seems fine 30-01-2020 07:26:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: http://youtu.be/dmLSJrA0n9w 30-01-2020 07:26:48 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but I play slooow 30-01-2020 07:26:54 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: anyway 30-01-2020 07:27:21 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "verbally struggle against great horror after seeing Copnut Singlewatch die" 30-01-2020 07:28:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: You: Death... The horror consumes me! 30-01-2020 07:28:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: heh. 30-01-2020 07:28:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: ahh, the name gen. 30-01-2020 07:29:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the five melee goblins who my freind was keeping busy while I ineffectually tried to slash their archer agree with me that death is horrifying, then come and murder me 30-01-2020 07:29:18 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tis an odd game 30-01-2020 07:30:16 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no wait, the archer told a joke and then shot me in the chest 30-01-2020 07:31:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Was the joke funny? 30-01-2020 07:31:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "...and the dwarf saw the sun and vomited on the spot!" 30-01-2020 07:32:40 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: pretty good, but I'm not sure if I should approve when they just shot me in the chest, and then I got stabbed in the left hand where I'd already gotten shot by a pike, which got stuck, and then someone bashed me in the leg with a warhammer 30-01-2020 07:33:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Maybe if you laughed at the joke while the others were being all serious, you'd have made a new friend. 30-01-2020 07:33:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It does seem like a good time to make a new friend. 30-01-2020 07:33:51 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it gives me an option to do so 30-01-2020 07:33:56 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: should I approve? 30-01-2020 07:34:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yes! 30-01-2020 07:34:11 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no wait, I blew it 30-01-2020 07:34:18 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fug 30-01-2020 07:35:20 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: instead I will just ask my god how she's feeling 30-01-2020 07:36:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Well that's unusual. Saw Nahere posting in one of the mod threads, he's person I can only recall seeing way back in Perplexicon. 569 posts, joined Feb 11. 30-01-2020 07:37:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: mmm. 30-01-2020 07:37:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: before dubs but after me. 30-01-2020 07:37:28 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it is funny to watch these goblins be terrifyed by the horrible wounds they inflict on me 30-01-2020 07:37:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: Yeah, that seems wrong for goblins. 30-01-2020 07:38:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that seems wrong for anyone who ambushes me at full lethal, really 30-01-2020 07:38:41 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh wait, you press y to yield 30-01-2020 07:38:57 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: which isn't a conversation option for... some reason 30-01-2020 07:38:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: 2011, btw 30-01-2020 07:39:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Thought Dubs has been around longer than that? 30-01-2020 07:39:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah, he joined May 2009 30-01-2020 07:40:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ER's the youngest forumer here, April 2012. 30-01-2020 07:41:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Do the goblins give a fuck about you yielding? 30-01-2020 07:41:27 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, maybe? 30-01-2020 07:41:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I'd expect them to basically say "Oh, cool, thanks for not defending yourself." 30-01-2020 07:42:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, they're actually walking away 30-01-2020 07:42:29 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: granted I'm... down a lung, bleeding to death, unable to stand or grasp 30-01-2020 07:43:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, spine damage 30-01-2020 07:44:59 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh 30-01-2020 07:46:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they beat on me until I assumed a submissive posture, then walked away and let me crawl away where I hid behind a tree and slept until I got my breath back, then I was allowed to travel for a tile, then they ambushed me again and this time are no-quarter. 30-01-2020 07:47:43 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that archer really loves to tell jokes in combat 30-01-2020 07:48:40 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Long-Nose bowman (to crowded-teeth pikeman): So, the capuchin man and the bogeymen... 30-01-2020 07:49:00 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Crowded-teeth pikeman: Death... This is truly horrifying. 30-01-2020 07:49:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: that sounds more like goblins. 30-01-2020 07:49:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: they let you live until you were truly defenceless. 30-01-2020 07:50:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: You take out the avovado wood carving knife. 30-01-2020 07:52:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Why do you have a wooden knife? 30-01-2020 07:53:14 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because it started me with one 30-01-2020 07:53:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Posted in Cabal. 30-01-2020 07:53:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and I didn't change it 30-01-2020 07:53:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: And you're a goblin? Weird. 30-01-2020 07:53:51 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I wish that I could ask them to please kill me painlessly 30-01-2020 08:00:21 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and so: https://i.imgur.com/18lewfP.png 30-01-2020 08:04:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Alas, poor goblin. 30-01-2020 08:06:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I said to my bro "hey what troubles are up" and he said "everything" so I decided to ask about the bone-chilling horror because that sounds like it needs to be dealt with and he said that nasty shit was going on in the foretress down south and I was like wow I didn't know there was a fortress there so I had him tell me where it was and we walked down there 30-01-2020 08:08:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and a patrol of goblins met us and shot me in the hand and he died somehow fighting five goblins at once and then they tortured me for a while until they got bored so I crawled away and passed out and then tried to crawl all the way back home but they came back and I tried to stab the halber goblin in the chest with a wooden knife but he blocked it repeatedly and then effotlessly cut my head off. 30-01-2020 08:08:43 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: story! 30-01-2020 08:11:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: And not all that bad of one, really. 30-01-2020 08:13:50 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think bone-chilling horror just means "there's goblins over there" because they're horrible sociopaths with ethics which tell them to torture people for fun 30-01-2020 08:14:14 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: as opposed to us human-civ goblins, who are just horrible sociopaths 30-01-2020 08:15:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Ohhh 30-01-2020 08:16:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: You're a goblin in another civ, duh. You can't even start as a goblin civ goblin in base game, yeah. Duh. 30-01-2020 08:16:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: did I mention that this was a world in which it seemed that humans, dwarves, and elves are extinct? 30-01-2020 08:16:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: You did say only goblins were left. 30-01-2020 08:16:55 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the options were goblin, human, and wilderness creature 30-01-2020 08:17:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I had just assumed you meant "the goblin civs killed all the other civs, and somehow didn't get outcompeted by kidnapped elves" 30-01-2020 08:17:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and humans were just outsiders. 30-01-2020 08:17:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: So half-and-half. Goblins killed everyone except humans, and humans got outcompeted by naturalized goblins. 30-01-2020 08:18:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: That's pretty neat. 30-01-2020 08:18:13 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and I only got one civ choice and one starting site choice, though the Q screen seemed to show my civ group being based in a fortress to the north? 30-01-2020 08:19:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: many, many hamlets, towns, forts, retreats belonging to goblins 30-01-2020 08:19:31 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and there was an option to play as an angel, I think, as a wilderness creature? 30-01-2020 08:19:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is that a known thing? 30-01-2020 08:21:08 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe I should start up a warrior of donashode demigod and start murdering goblins? 30-01-2020 08:21:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...I suppose it's likely that humans, elves, and dwarves still exist, but can't be played because they're goblin civ members. 30-01-2020 08:22:02 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Q screen did show dwarves as a thing I knew existed 30-01-2020 08:22:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: obv you need to fort mode that as an extinct civ at war with those gobbos. 30-01-2020 08:23:29 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fort mode is like adv mode except you don't know what's going on and it takes too long to die 30-01-2020 08:23:38 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and you can't murder anyone personally 30-01-2020 08:25:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I think the warrior of Donashode may actually be a necromantic creation. 30-01-2020 08:25:27 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, possible 30-01-2020 08:25:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Today mentioned in the FotF update that experimented people may escape, and in that case could maybe become playable. 30-01-2020 08:25:55 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but I also saw donashode's creature leather 30-01-2020 08:25:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: So... try it! See if you get to be Frankenstein. 30-01-2020 08:26:16 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay, I'll try that later 30-01-2020 08:26:23 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm being dead now~ 30-01-2020 08:27:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Wouldn't surprise me if experiments have leather, lotsa weird critters have their mats added on release, because Toady whoopses. Though, I guess if it's a playable, it should be sapient, and sapients don't generally have that happen? And angels do, or did, I guess. 30-01-2020 08:28:16 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, warror of and creature are different 30-01-2020 08:28:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ...Maybe "Donashode" isn't *just* the warrior. Maybe the Necromancer or their civ is Donashode, so--yep. 30-01-2020 08:28:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but both presumably made by the same god / demon / necromancer 30-01-2020 08:29:24 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm assuming that warrior is sentient which is why you can play it and creature isn't which is why human civ uses its leather 30-01-2020 08:32:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah. 30-01-2020 08:32:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It's very notable that the human civ uses it. If it's a creation of necros/gods, why do *they* have them? 30-01-2020 08:33:28 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because in this dark and gritty world where everyone's green you have to use what you can get? 30-01-2020 08:33:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Hmm. In modding thread, they were talking about some new interactions added. There's a god blessing that gifts you with a random pet, maybe that's the route. Gods gifting histfigs with special god-made animals. 30-01-2020 08:34:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like, you get a procgen pet? 30-01-2020 08:34:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: "Deadly dust." 30-01-2020 08:34:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: You get a pet randomly selected from all creatures in a certain class. 30-01-2020 08:34:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: And there's procgen creatures. 30-01-2020 08:34:44 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: interesting. 30-01-2020 08:35:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: So presumably it could select them, and then they'd be part of that civ and be used. 30-01-2020 08:35:24 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also it's kinda funny, this world is mostly a big island in the west, which is swarming with goblins 30-01-2020 08:35:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Might also mean that it *is* a necro's abomination, and a god just randomly selected the necro abomination as the pet. 30-01-2020 08:35:48 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: there's a couple more smaller islands to the east, and NONE of them have any civs 30-01-2020 08:35:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I'm sure we'll get answers in the coming weeks, as people poke around. 30-01-2020 08:36:34 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so I think all the civs just started surrounded by a bunch of goblin civs in a tight space and werre overwhelmed 30-01-2020 08:37:13 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is only botes were in the game, maybe they would have sailed away to freedom 30-01-2020 08:38:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Someday, we'll have naval wars in DF. 30-01-2020 08:38:34 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: beyond! quality! 30-01-2020 08:39:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: alright, warrior of donashode here we go 30-01-2020 08:39:43 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "You emerged from the wilds and came to be an animal dissector" 30-01-2020 08:39:55 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if this is an abomination that's perfect 30-01-2020 08:40:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Anything interesting in your description? 30-01-2020 08:40:48 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: our one starting fortress is Mellowbasic and it's controlled by The Lush League 30-01-2020 08:41:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't think it lets you look at your creature description until you start 30-01-2020 08:41:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Ah, well, when you get there. 30-01-2020 08:43:04 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, appearance tab doesn't show anything 30-01-2020 08:43:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: :( 30-01-2020 08:43:54 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, these creatures can apparently be male or female, unless that's just the character sheet interface 30-01-2020 08:44:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: make romance: slight need 30-01-2020 08:44:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Nah, you can be genderless. 30-01-2020 08:44:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: If the creature type is genderless. 30-01-2020 08:44:55 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: she dreams of mastering a skill 30-01-2020 08:45:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: "Stabbing people" 30-01-2020 08:45:29 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: damn that starts you with a lot of equipment points 30-01-2020 08:45:43 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I could take a bunch of war elephants ot something 30-01-2020 08:45:58 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...or maybe donoshode's creatures? lemmie check 30-01-2020 08:46:59 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: doesn't seem so 30-01-2020 08:47:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: What's the largest carnivore available? 30-01-2020 08:47:39 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: bears I think 30-01-2020 08:47:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: You are obligated to start with a breeding pair, use them as mounts, and them build a cavalry army. 30-01-2020 08:47:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Bear cavalry, of course! 30-01-2020 08:48:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I have 1255 points and they cost 150 30-01-2020 08:48:18 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: with my peasants I couldn't afford horses 30-01-2020 08:48:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Damn. How much for masterwork equipment? 30-01-2020 08:49:24 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh, not enough points to go past exceptional 30-01-2020 08:49:50 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 1462 points overall at demigod 30-01-2020 08:49:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Odd. I'd expect a demigod to at least be able to start with a masterwork weapon. 30-01-2020 08:50:54 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: actually, that was with a bronze 2handed sword, let me check with somethign cheaper 30-01-2020 08:51:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, can go up to masterful with a copper whip 30-01-2020 08:51:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: base cost 6, masterful 72 30-01-2020 08:52:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Uh. Whips were fixed, right? 30-01-2020 08:52:27 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, so material matters a lot 30-01-2020 08:52:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dunno 30-01-2020 08:53:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: And yeah, low quality streel is better than high quality iron. 30-01-2020 08:53:48 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Copnut had a wellcrafted silver whip and adequate lasher and didn't beat five trained goblins. :P 30-01-2020 08:54:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: The whip bug hasn't been marked as fixed, and I didn't see any comments about whips in the release notes. 30-01-2020 08:54:34 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: whips are the cheapest weapons in the same material. because they weight less I guess 30-01-2020 08:54:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: They're powerful, but he *was* outnumbered five-to-one. 30-01-2020 08:55:59 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, I think the final push from exceptional to masterful costs a lot more 30-01-2020 08:56:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is masterful the same as masterwork, actually? 30-01-2020 08:57:15 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: two humped camels cost more than black bears 30-01-2020 08:57:29 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 250 vs 150 30-01-2020 08:57:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Black bears are pretty small. 30-01-2020 08:58:01 -!- Piecewise_!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 30-01-2020 08:58:25 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, grizzlies cost 250 30-01-2020 08:58:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so the same as a camel 30-01-2020 08:59:02 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: which makes grizzlies cost the same as elephants. :P 30-01-2020 08:59:27 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: war training doubles the cost, so 500 for war elephant/grizzly 30-01-2020 08:59:50 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: black bears can't be trained but grizzlies can? 30-01-2020 09:00:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I have no idea if that's true or not. 30-01-2020 09:00:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: and I should, dammit. 30-01-2020 09:00:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: accurate or not. 30-01-2020 09:02:15 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...can I ride bears? what designates animals as ridable? 30-01-2020 09:02:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Bear cubs are adorable! Like weird lumpy puppies. 30-01-2020 09:02:54 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "munchedembrace" 30-01-2020 09:03:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's my war grizzly's name 30-01-2020 09:03:23 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I didn't custom it, just hit random a few times 30-01-2020 09:04:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: heh. 30-01-2020 09:04:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yes, black bears are trainable IRL 30-01-2020 09:05:47 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: breastplate: costs less than a robe 30-01-2020 09:05:59 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because robes are heavy and cover a lot, I assume? 30-01-2020 09:07:02 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's kind of annoying that looking at equipment lists leather from every possible animal for every possible garment which could be made of leather with them all costing the same and having the same properties 30-01-2020 09:07:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Huh. Even despite the breastplate being metal, and the robe cloth? 30-01-2020 09:07:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Robes are good though, IIRC you can layer three on top of normal armor and it provides a good boost in actual protection. 30-01-2020 09:08:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: because both are 10 unit finished goods? 30-01-2020 09:08:11 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: leather or plant fiber robes cost 33 while copper breastplate costs 30 30-01-2020 09:08:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: that effect, while it exists, is overrated, syv. 30-01-2020 09:08:29 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: copper mail costs 40 which beats it but not by a large amount 30-01-2020 09:08:38 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: better metal costs more I assume 30-01-2020 09:08:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: And yes, grizzlies are ridable. Sometimes siegers will come with them as mounts. 30-01-2020 09:08:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: prolly. 30-01-2020 09:08:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: doesn't copper have only a 2x value modifier? 30-01-2020 09:09:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it doesn't show you what you can't afford and all my points are in zwei and chomper right now 30-01-2020 09:09:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Mail covers a lot more than breastplate. 30-01-2020 09:09:40 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: should our generated demigod, whatever she is, wear a shirt? 30-01-2020 09:10:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: A mail shirt, ofc. 30-01-2020 09:10:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Demigods are immune to chafing. 30-01-2020 09:11:06 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I wonder if these cost more because I have a larger body size 30-01-2020 09:11:30 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: do humans not use dresses? 30-01-2020 09:11:34 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't see them 30-01-2020 09:12:17 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe they just refuse to put the abomination in a pretty dress 30-01-2020 09:13:51 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, I could buy adder venom? 30-01-2020 09:14:16 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wait, will I die of thirst because i didn't get a waterskin or can you drink from water in the world? 30-01-2020 09:14:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I don't remember. 30-01-2020 09:14:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: and I don't believe size matters for price. 30-01-2020 09:16:40 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what will extracts and alchohol come in if i don't start with a container for them? :thinking: 30-01-2020 09:16:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: You can drink from water in the world. 30-01-2020 09:17:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: You can drink water coverings off your limbs, in fact. 30-01-2020 09:17:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I imagine they'll get a free container, like barrels in fort mode. 30-01-2020 09:18:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Like the old strat of starting with twenty different hunks of different meat, each of which costs 2, so you get twenty different expensive barrels. 30-01-2020 09:18:20 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm 30-01-2020 09:18:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: who gets a free container? 30-01-2020 09:18:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: IIRC, adventurers used to get free containers. 30-01-2020 09:18:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you can start with a profession, which gives you starting skill in some things 30-01-2020 09:18:55 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: which you can then raise with your skill points 30-01-2020 09:19:10 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: which means it's possible to get legendary starting skill 30-01-2020 09:19:18 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: only in things which adv mode doesn't use 30-01-2020 09:19:41 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you get to pick your equpment with points buy now, Dev 30-01-2020 09:20:00 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I deleted everything it started me with for a exceptional greatsword 30-01-2020 09:21:37 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Hok Chastepalm, the Warrior or Donashode animal dissector 30-01-2020 09:22:08 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: she has superior toughness and social awareness, and high strength! 30-01-2020 09:22:50 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: she is a professional swordsman, adequate in "a few" things, a novice dancer, and a master animal dissector 30-01-2020 09:23:14 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the game doesn't know how to describe her appearence! 30-01-2020 09:24:17 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: she believes that mastery of a skills is one of the highest pursuits, and presumably realized that animal dissescting isn't a good skill to master and started studying the blade instead 30-01-2020 09:24:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: Yes it is! 30-01-2020 09:24:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: don't you piss off Morul. 30-01-2020 09:26:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: "Chastepalm", hur hur hur 30-01-2020 09:26:33 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: she has an exceptional brove two-handed sword, a cotten skirt, a copper mail shirt, a single unit of whip wine, and nothing else in this world except for her two best freinds; Cikul Speakpocket the crow and Apap Munchedembrace the war grizzly. 30-01-2020 09:27:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: BROVA, WE MARCH! 30-01-2020 09:27:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: Chastefinger would be better, hur hur hur. 30-01-2020 09:27:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Can you have Cikul ride you while you ride Apap? 30-01-2020 09:27:50 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: her adventure begins, in the human-ish fortress of mellowbasic, under the control of The Lush League. 30-01-2020 09:27:55 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe? 30-01-2020 09:29:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: You've finally got your equpment together, such as it is. Now it's the time for action and adventure! In the rush of excitement, you've forgotten where you were going to go. Perhaps some on your freinds here can remind you. 30-01-2020 09:30:10 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, here we go. 30-01-2020 09:32:23 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: A feathered humanoid. It has a long, swinging trunk. Its eyes glow golden yellow. Its black feathers are long and narrow. This night creature was first created by the human necromancer Erhlal Spiralscar of Blushedlakes after horrible experiments on the goblin Stozu Helltundras in Coloredchestnut in the year 64. 30-01-2020 09:32:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so I guess... we're an ex-goblin bird lady? 30-01-2020 09:33:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: nah, you're a zombie. 30-01-2020 09:33:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: just a weird one. 30-01-2020 09:33:17 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "One must always be loyal to their cause and the ones they serve." 30-01-2020 09:33:25 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, experiments are alive 30-01-2020 09:33:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Are people hostile to you? If not, yeah, alive. 30-01-2020 09:33:54 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if I were a zombie I would be a leutenant, which get cool magical powers 30-01-2020 09:34:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Hmm. So, a goblin with feathers, glowing eyes, and an elephant trunk, basically. 30-01-2020 09:34:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and bigger, I think 30-01-2020 09:35:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Suitable that you have a pet crow, I suppose. 30-01-2020 09:35:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't think I can see my size directly but my walking speed is 1.111 30-01-2020 09:35:17 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup. 30-01-2020 09:36:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, yup, the crow is on my head 30-01-2020 09:36:20 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how do I pet things? 30-01-2020 09:37:07 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh, it started me with 2 silver coins. I don't have a pouch, so they're "hauled" 30-01-2020 09:37:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: The crow *starts* on your head? That's adorable! 30-01-2020 09:37:21 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and my wine is in my right hand, alon with my sword 30-01-2020 09:37:23 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes 30-01-2020 09:37:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah. That also happens if you play an adventurer with no grasps or anything, your equipment will all just be hauled. 30-01-2020 09:39:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: It's also imaginary. 30-01-2020 09:39:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm 30-01-2020 09:40:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe I need a bag to use the bear as a pach animal? 30-01-2020 09:40:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that would make sense, inconvenient as it is 30-01-2020 09:42:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: "Cat" in dwarvish is "kun". 30-01-2020 09:42:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: So "Urist-kun" is "Dagger-cat" 30-01-2020 09:42:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: This makes me happy. 30-01-2020 09:45:04 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm 30-01-2020 09:45:26 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this turky leather bag doesn't have an owner listed, maybe I just yoink it :D 30-01-2020 09:47:43 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh 30-01-2020 09:47:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: Urist is dagger, eh? 30-01-2020 09:47:57 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: are bears marked as mounts but not as pack animals? :( 30-01-2020 09:48:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: never knew that. 30-01-2020 09:50:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes, I am a feathered abomination riding a bear, with a crow riding on my head 30-01-2020 09:50:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: That might be it, ER. They're exotic mounts, and come in sieges, but never with caravans. 30-01-2020 09:50:15 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm 30-01-2020 09:50:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: too bad 30-01-2020 09:50:48 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I can "borrow" bags from the fortress but they're not wearable 30-01-2020 09:51:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Hmm. You know, there's nothing stopping me from adding [PACK_ANIMAL] to cat raws. 30-01-2020 09:51:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I'll have to do this sometime. 30-01-2020 09:51:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I wonder if it would have interactions with their vermin hunting. 30-01-2020 09:51:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it probably calculates how much they can carry, right? 30-01-2020 09:51:44 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, that's possible 30-01-2020 09:52:30 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh yeah, I forgot there's a riding skill 30-01-2020 09:52:40 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe should have taken profficent in that 30-01-2020 09:53:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Do donkeys have enough strength to carry elephants? 30-01-2020 09:53:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Because Elves bring elephants on donkeys. 30-01-2020 09:54:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It shouldn't matter for the other races, because wagons have their own weight limit and speed and whatnot, they're just guided by the pack animals. 30-01-2020 09:54:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: yes, I believe anyone can still carry anything. 30-01-2020 09:55:11 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I leave the fort and see an astrisk. I go over to it to see what it is. Doesn't drop me out of traveling, so I drop out manually. 30-01-2020 09:55:52 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm standing next to some goblin hammerman. He's not marked as hostile so I speak to him, his attitude to me is "neutral" 30-01-2020 09:55:56 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I say hi 30-01-2020 09:56:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: my mount immediately attacks 30-01-2020 09:56:23 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: actually, maybe I just didn't check if hostile? 30-01-2020 09:56:44 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it doesn't say if you hover over them with k, i think, only with l? 30-01-2020 09:57:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Well, he's hostile *now*. 30-01-2020 09:57:27 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup~ 30-01-2020 09:57:45 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, I think he was just a hostile and my bear is smarter than me though 30-01-2020 09:58:13 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: knocked him over twice and bit both his arms in the time it took me to say "hello there" 30-01-2020 09:59:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: "How are you doing?" "AAAAHHHH!" "Yeah, I figured." 30-01-2020 09:59:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay, I think a demigod abomination with a high quality bronze weapon riding a warbear might be op 30-01-2020 10:01:54 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, I guess you could do more slow attacks while mounted, because your mount keeps charging and making sure you're in range while you're winding up 30-01-2020 10:04:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Hmm. Your bird is riding you while you're riding a bear. I wonder if this means that if you made horses playable, you could play a horse that's ridden by another horse, and then mount a third horse. 30-01-2020 10:04:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Horse stacking. 30-01-2020 10:05:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the bird seems to be treated as an item currently? 30-01-2020 10:05:09 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's in my inventory 30-01-2020 10:07:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Oh. Weird. 30-01-2020 10:07:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Can you throw it? 30-01-2020 10:07:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, why would i throw bribfrend!? D: 30-01-2020 10:08:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I want to know what happens if you throw a living creature at somebody and get it stuck inside. 30-01-2020 10:08:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: What if the creature is part of an enemy faction to the target? 30-01-2020 10:09:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Do they pull the creature out? What do they do to it? Do they ignore it until it's removed by some other method, and then attack it? 30-01-2020 10:09:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I don't *think* that would result in any damage to the bird, unless it failed to get stuck inside. 30-01-2020 10:10:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Also, I kinda want to know what happens if you throw the bird upward. Does it transfer back to being a creature and just start flying? 30-01-2020 10:11:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: Can you smash a glass display case with the bird? 30-01-2020 10:11:40 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: You slash the long-nose goblin hammer in the head from the side with your bronze two-handed sword and the injured part is cloven asunder! 30-01-2020 10:12:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think creatures as projectiles usually can't start flying until they hit something, so that would hurt 30-01-2020 10:12:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: "Now go to Cove and pick up Jaana, who for some reason is wandering around Cove late at night with a dagger in one hand and a live goshawk, in a bag, in the other. Take the hawk out of the bag and wield the bird yourself." 30-01-2020 10:13:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: I don't know, it might be possible to do that and have it be immune to damage due to having the wrong data types. 30-01-2020 10:14:02 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what was it to put away weapon? 30-01-2020 10:14:33 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, q 30-01-2020 10:14:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ...p? 30-01-2020 10:14:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Oh. 30-01-2020 10:15:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah, if the bird stays an object, I'm pretty sure it'll just be immune to most kinds of damage while an object. 30-01-2020 10:15:39 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, we just murdered a random goblin. 30-01-2020 10:15:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Goblins aren't real people, so it's fine. 30-01-2020 10:16:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, yes 30-01-2020 10:16:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the only real people is the beefy humanoid crows with trunks 30-01-2020 10:17:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and GLOWING GOLDEN EYES 30-01-2020 10:17:44 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this game is wonderful 30-01-2020 10:20:21 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wonder if you can divination at monastaries 30-01-2020 10:20:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't think my character knows about any temples 30-01-2020 10:20:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: hmm. 30-01-2020 10:20:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: hey ER, what's your thoughts on the profession of "Underground Arena Gladiator." 30-01-2020 10:21:14 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that works 30-01-2020 10:21:29 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not as cool as doctor dragon tho 30-01-2020 10:22:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: well, draggy can be doctor. 30-01-2020 10:22:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: should have done the arena thing there. 30-01-2020 10:22:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: can do fighter, doctor, and garbage disposal. 30-01-2020 10:22:27 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heh 30-01-2020 10:22:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: all in one place. 30-01-2020 10:22:38 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I check my bear and he's just covered in blood 30-01-2020 10:22:40 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: good bear 30-01-2020 10:23:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: do you trust the medic who is also one of the monsters? ;P 30-01-2020 10:23:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: of course! 30-01-2020 10:23:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: he only eats people who die. 30-01-2020 10:24:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, I guess I can't see how tired my mount is. 30-01-2020 10:24:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: You know, I think that's true of the vast majority of things that eat people, Dev. 30-01-2020 10:24:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: yes. 30-01-2020 10:24:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: of course it's true, that's why I said it. 30-01-2020 10:24:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Even the ones that kill people. 30-01-2020 10:24:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: ;-p 30-01-2020 10:25:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: "Use the goshawk to smash down the door (but how?!?) and walk inside." 30-01-2020 10:25:28 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, I suppose this town is just abandoned? 30-01-2020 10:25:37 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: magic bird 30-01-2020 10:26:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how does site claiming work? never really done it. 30-01-2020 10:26:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Neither have I. 30-01-2020 10:26:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: can I do... something to help reclaim this town? 30-01-2020 10:27:17 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the starting fort is descibed as having "a few dozen inhabitants at most", so maybe winning this war isn't super feasable. :V 30-01-2020 10:27:31 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: unless the "capital" is way better off 30-01-2020 10:27:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Winning is super feasible. 30-01-2020 10:28:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Just personally kill every single enemy soldier yourself. 30-01-2020 10:28:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, there are goblins here 30-01-2020 10:29:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh, already injured 30-01-2020 10:29:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I guess you can't heal them, so... dance with them? 30-01-2020 10:29:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: left hand broken and cut open, neck bruised 30-01-2020 10:31:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, they were fighting a shadow ogress 30-01-2020 10:31:55 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and I think they're freinds, actually? 30-01-2020 10:33:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oops, not freindly ;p 30-01-2020 10:35:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I say to the commander, "hello, I'm Hok", and the commander says "yo abomination" while a bowman demands I identify myself. 30-01-2020 10:35:34 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Having just introduced myself to the commander, I gladly comply, saying "hey, I'm-" 30-01-2020 10:35:37 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: then I get shot at 30-01-2020 10:37:18 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wait, and then the bowman says stop this pointless violence? 30-01-2020 10:37:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mate, you started it 30-01-2020 10:38:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: stabbs stabby. 30-01-2020 10:38:33 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, I guess when you jump while mounted, you dismount? 30-01-2020 10:38:57 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, that just put my bear in the way of arrows! 30-01-2020 10:39:37 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: have people always joked this much in combat? 30-01-2020 10:44:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: No. 30-01-2020 10:44:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: there were no jokes at all originally. 30-01-2020 10:44:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: but probably, yeah. 30-01-2020 10:53:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net: guys sparring gained social skills a lot, at least since .40d 30-01-2020 10:57:01 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: She feels affection after intereacting with a pet. 30-01-2020 10:57:21 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: She doesn't feel anything after experiencing trauma. 30-01-2020 10:57:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...then she's horrified by watching three goblins die, for some reason 30-01-2020 10:57:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who she KILLED 30-01-2020 10:59:30 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: The Lamented is unironically a super metal name for a goddess of torture and misery. 30-01-2020 11:00:14 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: probably just The followed by a word for bad stuff, but it tells a story by itself 30-01-2020 11:00:38 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who needs mythgen in... like 5 years? 30-01-2020 11:00:44 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: we can just imagine the myths! 30-01-2020 11:00:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: That's how DF works in general. 30-01-2020 11:01:08 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also the only male human god is the god of consolation. 30-01-2020 11:01:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Vagaries that really don't say anything in themselves, but imply and hint towards stuff that your mind fills in. 30-01-2020 11:03:12 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh damn 30-01-2020 11:03:35 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just wandering around the field outside the fortress, "you have found a lair" 30-01-2020 11:05:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Oh, if there's a werebeast epidemic, that'll be very very common. Look around a bit more--if there's more lairs in the tiles adjacent, then they're all werebeasts. 30-01-2020 11:08:28 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh 30-01-2020 11:08:44 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: everything just went dark except for Hok, glowing yellow eyes 30-01-2020 11:09:19 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and W said sun shining... 30-01-2020 11:09:52 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I can't find the entrance though... 30-01-2020 11:10:49 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, here 30-01-2020 11:10:57 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: in a random ass corner, of course! 30-01-2020 11:11:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I spy red eyes! 30-01-2020 11:12:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Werebeast goblin? Might be worth leaving him alive so you can come back and get bit during the full moon. 30-01-2020 11:12:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Is there anything in particular you have to do with 2-handed weapons other than not have something in your other hand? 30-01-2020 11:12:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I don't believe so. 30-01-2020 11:12:57 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aw, just a goblin. :( 30-01-2020 11:13:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: If you're using both hands, it'll say "Multigrasp" in the inventory screen. 30-01-2020 11:13:05 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh well, I've killed those. :) 30-01-2020 11:13:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah, werebeast. 30-01-2020 11:13:44 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: doesn't say multigrasp though? 30-01-2020 11:14:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I bet you're too large, so a twohander for normal people is just a onehander for you. 30-01-2020 11:14:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Dwarves will multigrasp human longswords, while humans onehand them. 30-01-2020 11:14:41 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but wouldn't it give me starting equipment sized for my creature? 30-01-2020 11:14:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: No. Weapons are sized purely based off raws. 30-01-2020 11:15:20 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh, is that only for clothing? 30-01-2020 11:17:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah. 30-01-2020 11:19:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: werebeast, killed! 30-01-2020 11:19:31 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It's so wierd how they spend most of their time as some naked person in a cave, doing nothing 30-01-2020 11:19:48 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and not hostile and don't respond to being called a night creature 30-01-2020 11:24:11 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/j4n5sx6qUVc 30-01-2020 11:38:24 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: welp, this turkey leather bag seems to be overflowing with loot now! 30-01-2020 12:07:15 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well fuck 30-01-2020 12:17:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ? 30-01-2020 12:18:16 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ran into a giant alligator 30-01-2020 12:18:32 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it immediately bit a limb off my bear D: 30-01-2020 12:18:39 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, a back law 30-01-2020 12:18:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: oh no 30-01-2020 12:18:41 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: paw 30-01-2020 12:18:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: The only solution is a werebeast 30-01-2020 12:19:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ...Bears can't become werebeasts, can they? 30-01-2020 12:19:44 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who knows! 30-01-2020 12:20:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Nah, only sapients 30-01-2020 12:20:57 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also I'm not sure if my bronze zwei is up to the task of killing something with scales as literally thick as this 30-01-2020 12:20:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Heh. Add [CAN_LEARN] to grizzly raws, have the bear get bitten by a werebear, then remove the tag. Maybe it'll keep the syndrome~ 30-01-2020 12:21:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Are you stabbing? 30-01-2020 12:22:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, some internal damage with heavy stabs 30-01-2020 12:24:11 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's messed up that heavy attack isn't on h :P 30-01-2020 12:24:36 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: finally, stabbed it in the brain 30-01-2020 12:24:42 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's what you get. 30-01-2020 12:25:03 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and what have I gained from this? uh, mostly getting it on my kill list. 30-01-2020 12:26:46 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: You eat the giant alligator meat. 30-01-2020 12:27:13 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: somehow, my actual character hasn't gotten hit once 30-01-2020 12:28:22 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Here we have you by much gore. 30-01-2020 12:30:06 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, even just carrying the skull slows me down a lot 30-01-2020 12:36:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Build a house around it? 30-01-2020 12:37:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I think you need an axe to do that, though. 30-01-2020 13:01:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Kazgame STILL hasn't updated, gah 30-01-2020 13:23:20 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh has quit [Quit: You hear a distant scream of "FUCK AT&T!"] 30-01-2020 15:07:29 < ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://xkcd.com/2261/ 30-01-2020 15:20:17 -!- Devastator_!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 30-01-2020 15:22:53 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@lwfp-7e7lh3ht3tcu8655w00eqtono.ipv5.telus.net has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 30-01-2020 15:23:00 -!- Devastator_ is now known as Devastator 30-01-2020 16:27:28 -!- ER!ER@94-72-365-21.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Quit: Want to be different? 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