21-12-2019 00:39:24 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'd better be paid well for valiantly sending all my units rp due 21-12-2019 00:39:28 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: To die 21-12-2019 00:39:43 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Stoopid autocorrect 21-12-2019 00:48:26 -!- er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 21-12-2019 00:48:27 -!- Elastic_Ridicule!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 00:48:39 -!- Elastic_Ridicule is now known as ER 21-12-2019 00:54:22 -!- IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 00:56:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net: 'lo 21-12-2019 00:56:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net: you don't get paid extra for casulties, er. 21-12-2019 00:56:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: my ironic frembd 21-12-2019 00:57:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: are you telling me that human wave tactics *aren't* the way to go for fighting kaiju? 21-12-2019 00:57:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net: Yes. 21-12-2019 00:57:35 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: hey dev 21-12-2019 00:57:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net: hey IO. 21-12-2019 00:57:47 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: so that could have been worse, but we couldn't quiiiiiiiite get the job done 21-12-2019 00:57:49 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: a shame 21-12-2019 00:57:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also you referred to our units using our usernames a couple time there 21-12-2019 00:58:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net: your username is your unit. 21-12-2019 00:58:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but nothing is called Irony in universe! 21-12-2019 00:58:42 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: you don't know that 21-12-2019 00:58:56 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: maybe every soldier in my platoon is Irony Ironyish Ironyson, the Third 21-12-2019 00:59:17 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: well, maybe every soldier in my platoon was named that before they were melted 21-12-2019 00:59:42 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: anyway why would you need the council to be on board with catgirls, er? 21-12-2019 01:00:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so that they keep funding me while I put all my resources towards future hypothetical OP catgirls, I guess 21-12-2019 01:00:51 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: probably wiser to just build it in stages 21-12-2019 01:00:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net: all fixed. 21-12-2019 01:00:56 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: make initial Gen-1 catgirls 21-12-2019 01:01:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: use them to participate in battles and figure out what works 21-12-2019 01:01:16 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: use the time and funds and kaiju bits to make Gen-2 catgirls 21-12-2019 01:01:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net: that's one way to do it. 21-12-2019 01:01:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nah, that would end up diluting the resources 21-12-2019 01:01:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I will probably improve them eventually, but I want a big old project for the first edition 21-12-2019 01:02:16 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: you figure out the particulars yet? 21-12-2019 01:03:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: haven't written it yet, because I can't make them yet 21-12-2019 01:03:57 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: this sounds like a catch-22 21-12-2019 01:04:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but... Jumps Good, strong enough to use large melee weapons, tough internal organs, good at climbing 21-12-2019 01:05:14 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: goin the claymore route, eh? 21-12-2019 01:05:28 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: actual question: do you think a nine foot long sword will be effective vs kaiju? 21-12-2019 01:05:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: plus equips, which should certainly include some good infantry armor 21-12-2019 01:06:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe MS infantry armor 21-12-2019 01:06:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and inf can carry multiple weapons, so something ranged in addition to melee 21-12-2019 01:06:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think a sword will be effective if swung with sufficent force :D 21-12-2019 01:07:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if maybe in a softer spot, targetting weapons, or making a hole to burrow into 21-12-2019 01:13:26 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: so what do you need/want to actually make them? 21-12-2019 01:13:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: lotsa muscle, some guts 21-12-2019 01:13:53 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: like how much muscle? 21-12-2019 01:14:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I have 3 now, at least 3 more to start the project, and of course I'll need the same number to actually build it 21-12-2019 01:14:55 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: any particular method to those numbers? 21-12-2019 01:15:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nope, because I kept pestering dev for it and he has given me nothing 21-12-2019 01:15:47 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: yeah, I asked him about it too 21-12-2019 01:15:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but I figure that double what I got from one extraction job should be pretty damn strong 21-12-2019 01:15:55 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: he pointed out we've collectively used 0.0 kaiju bits 21-12-2019 01:16:12 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: yeah, one would think 21-12-2019 01:16:29 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: man these are gonna be some buff catgirls 21-12-2019 01:16:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dev, how much kaiju muscle bits to make a platoon of human-sized creatures out of solid kaiju muscle? :P 21-12-2019 01:16:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just by volume 21-12-2019 01:16:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I like BUFF 21-12-2019 01:17:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net: it's not that simple, but one bit would be enough to mass more than a human, as I'm judging these things. 21-12-2019 01:18:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and our platoons are like... 14 people? 21-12-2019 01:18:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net: they're half-platoons, like 40. 21-12-2019 01:19:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh yeah 21-12-2019 01:19:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: welp, like 6 bits should be good. little more or less is acceptable because yields seem to be random. 21-12-2019 01:20:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: can I pay you to get to samples, IO? :V 21-12-2019 01:20:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net: And yes, none of you have used ANY kaiju bits. 21-12-2019 01:20:11 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: humans are supposedly supposed to be about 1/3 muscles by mass, probably a bit less by volume since it's dense 21-12-2019 01:20:37 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: so +1/40th your volume in muscle might not be noticeable 21-12-2019 01:20:57 -!- Devastator_!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 01:21:15 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: 6/40 would be 15%, so basically half again as much muscle as in your entire body 21-12-2019 01:21:23 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: presumably this would be rather noticeable 21-12-2019 01:21:24 < Devastator_!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: don't overthink it. Unless you describe otherwise, I'd be assuming you're working on a cellular level. 21-12-2019 01:21:31 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: that too 21-12-2019 01:21:50 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: as for paying me for kaiju bits... hm 21-12-2019 01:22:05 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: hard to say how much cash they're worth 21-12-2019 01:22:06 < Devastator_!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I haven't added up two months of scores yet, btw. 21-12-2019 01:22:12 < Devastator_!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: but there's another review at this point. 21-12-2019 01:22:22 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: haha, good thing some of us are in good with the council 21-12-2019 01:22:27 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: cause this month was a wee bit rough 21-12-2019 01:22:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...bah, politics 21-12-2019 01:22:35 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: hehehe 21-12-2019 01:22:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: why can't everyone be spooks, like me 21-12-2019 01:22:46 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: actually, does being political make me any better at convincing the council of things? 21-12-2019 01:22:55 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: er, you have a high energy physics lab yet? 21-12-2019 01:23:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nope 21-12-2019 01:23:04 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: hm hm 21-12-2019 01:23:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that would be swell 21-12-2019 01:23:19 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I'm guessing everyone's gonna need one eventually 21-12-2019 01:23:35 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: well, everyone's gonna want one immediately and be able to afford one eventually, is what I mean 21-12-2019 01:23:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...might be expedient, yes 21-12-2019 01:24:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "flat buff to research" is kinda nice, if you've the money to spare 21-12-2019 01:24:05 < Devastator_!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Eh, that's already in it. 21-12-2019 01:24:07 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: especially important if you're about to start your major, org-defining project 21-12-2019 01:24:47 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@oxhy-5w4vb9vv6xpu6e89j1kl1zid0.ipv6.telus.net has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21-12-2019 01:24:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah... 500 bucks... 21-12-2019 01:24:48 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I might, since my plans all require a bit more infrastructure 21-12-2019 01:24:55 -!- Devastator_ is now known as Devastator 21-12-2019 01:25:02 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: certainly don't this turn, but when I get my income it's possible 21-12-2019 01:25:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: plus... two months? is that how that works? 21-12-2019 01:25:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: 4 turns is two months, yeah. 21-12-2019 01:25:44 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: oh, so that's counting both "phases"? 21-12-2019 01:26:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, each one is a turn. 21-12-2019 01:27:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: It's mostly for scaling, to make it easier to keep track of stuff I want costing an extra month every two stages. 21-12-2019 01:28:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: ..also, 'this turn' is when you guys get income. 21-12-2019 01:28:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: start of purchases is when you get income. 21-12-2019 01:28:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "will florence learn that exiling their problems only makes them sassier?" 21-12-2019 01:42:15 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I'm trying to figure out the big strategy here and failing, this is why I tried to make that chart 21-12-2019 01:43:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I dunno man, I've just given myself a vague goal and am blindly groping towards it 21-12-2019 01:43:39 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I understand fully, being the proud owner of a submarine I can't store anywhere 21-12-2019 01:44:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: why do you need storage when you could just have it deployed out somewhere~ 21-12-2019 01:44:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I mean, you have to do that with slow navel vessels anyways, right? 21-12-2019 01:45:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, you gotta call it out. 21-12-2019 01:48:51 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: man this would be easier if we knew anything about how aquatic units work 21-12-2019 01:49:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: though given the kaiju tendency to target cities and at least briefly ignore military units 21-12-2019 01:49:30 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I'm guessing if my sub were worth anything I could give it orders not to fire on the kaiju until it was landbound and it'd be fine-ish 21-12-2019 01:49:49 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: problem is I'll be not just guessing, but actively wagering my precious sub on that supposition 21-12-2019 01:49:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: think that would be fine if it were med speed... 21-12-2019 01:51:02 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: yeah there's no salvaging slow speed; that's just gonna have to be upgraded, no real choice there 21-12-2019 01:51:16 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I mean, I asked about regions and it actually covers a fair patch of the world 21-12-2019 01:51:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, MAYBE with really good detection? 21-12-2019 01:51:26 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: but only being able to use it 20-25% of the time just isn't gonna work 21-12-2019 01:51:29 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: maybe yeah 21-12-2019 01:51:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: would probably need to build multiple facilities 21-12-2019 01:51:43 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: but like, if I'm gonna be investing in better detection tech, maybe just build the thing a new engine...? 21-12-2019 01:52:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, or you could just make lots of subs and put them everywhere :P 21-12-2019 01:52:24 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: brilliant! 21-12-2019 01:52:36 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: it's like cannon fodder but with naval vessels! 21-12-2019 01:53:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: new building idea, man printer 21-12-2019 01:53:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: takes in matter, builds man 21-12-2019 01:53:25 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: sounds efficient! 21-12-2019 01:53:29 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: well... 21-12-2019 01:53:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: repeat until planet made of guardsmen 21-12-2019 01:53:45 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: this is one of those tragic moments where you find out a clone platoon costs 65 and a regular platoon costs 50 21-12-2019 01:54:02 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: so it's literally cheaper to just scoop up all these mooks littering the planet than custom building your own 21-12-2019 01:54:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: *shakes fist* 21-12-2019 01:54:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: fiiiist! 21-12-2019 01:54:44 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: so... my real problem I think is that I have two plans, and both of them require substantial investment to really work 21-12-2019 01:55:05 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I think I need to settle on something practical while I pursue madness as a longterm goal 21-12-2019 01:55:38 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: the other problem is that both of my insane plans relied on mad scientists 21-12-2019 01:55:51 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: which are doing other people's stuff or going off on their own most of the time 21-12-2019 01:59:41 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: ...shit, it might be time to borrow syv's tactic of mass expendable artillery fire 21-12-2019 01:59:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: those swords would have loved mass artillery, btw. 21-12-2019 01:59:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: they were incapable of not killing them. 21-12-2019 02:00:02 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: haha 21-12-2019 02:00:10 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: so we finally hit the counter 21-12-2019 02:00:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "finally" 21-12-2019 02:00:23 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: ...other than just flailing about until the artillery dies 21-12-2019 02:00:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dev said this one was normal strength for kaiju 21-12-2019 02:00:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: long-range multitarget attacks counter lots of stuff. 21-12-2019 02:00:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: 80% normal strength. 21-12-2019 02:00:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes 21-12-2019 02:00:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: but that's a good number. 21-12-2019 02:00:44 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: we're boned D: 21-12-2019 02:00:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I really want those swords though 21-12-2019 02:01:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Just gotta be smrt! 21-12-2019 02:01:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: smart! 21-12-2019 02:01:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: i smrt 21-12-2019 02:29:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: you're not boned. 21-12-2019 02:29:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: there is a cost to them deploying stronk kaiju. 21-12-2019 03:00:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: but it's rough on you guys for the nonce. 21-12-2019 03:02:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: need money 21-12-2019 03:02:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and also TK blades 21-12-2019 03:02:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe I should get people to help me steal TK blades 21-12-2019 03:02:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that would be very legal 21-12-2019 03:02:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: yes 21-12-2019 03:04:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hey irony, want to spend an action phase breaking into a place owned by our employer? 21-12-2019 03:05:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: IronyOwl! 21-12-2019 03:22:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: IO not found. 21-12-2019 03:23:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: :( 21-12-2019 03:25:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: need sword 21-12-2019 03:25:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this will be of great use to the nekobutcher project 21-12-2019 03:30:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_3nLuv7k2Y 21-12-2019 03:30:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tl;dr 21-12-2019 03:31:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGe2lIeym2M 21-12-2019 03:32:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: still tl;dr ;P 21-12-2019 04:06:15 -!- MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 04:06:19 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: Lo 21-12-2019 04:06:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, hi 21-12-2019 04:06:37 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: er no, no breaking and stealing D: 21-12-2019 04:06:43 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: I saw the new Star Wars movie 21-12-2019 04:06:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm trying to convince myself that I need sleep to function 21-12-2019 04:06:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but IO 21-12-2019 04:06:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the swords 21-12-2019 04:06:58 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: you do need sleep to function D: 21-12-2019 04:07:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: citation needed 21-12-2019 04:07:11 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: what are TK blades? 21-12-2019 04:07:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the things that kaiju had 21-12-2019 04:07:29 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: No one needs sleep. Come to the sleepless side ER. 21-12-2019 04:07:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: uh, probably no MJ 21-12-2019 04:07:59 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: Aww. It’s lonely here. 21-12-2019 04:08:09 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: well, what did you think of Star Wars? 21-12-2019 04:08:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cause somehow, the council managed to capture that kaiju 21-12-2019 04:08:23 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: It was not very good honestlly. 21-12-2019 04:08:37 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: "not very good" is high praise all things considered 21-12-2019 04:08:43 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: Like I liked it a bit more then 8 but not by much. 21-12-2019 04:09:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: wait, when you say capture 21-12-2019 04:09:08 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: Like they both were bad, but in completlly opposite directions. 21-12-2019 04:09:11 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: like alive, or...? 21-12-2019 04:09:19 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: well that's interesting at least 21-12-2019 04:09:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they apparently captured alive the kaiju, yes 21-12-2019 04:09:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and they're not telling us >:| 21-12-2019 04:09:39 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: instead of the same ol' variety of bad, you've got different methods of being terrible at their jobs 21-12-2019 04:09:41 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: bastards! 21-12-2019 04:09:50 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: wait how do you know this 21-12-2019 04:10:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what do you think "intel organization" means? 21-12-2019 04:10:48 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: that's what I assumed, but wasn't sure 21-12-2019 04:11:08 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: also I'm a political org, you'd think they'd share with me :'( 21-12-2019 04:11:32 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: any idea what they intend to do with it? 21-12-2019 04:11:33 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: But yeah, like 8 is just like let’s get rid of all the fun parts of Star Wars and accomplish nothing Over the course of the movie. And 9 is like, let’s just do massive amounts of fanserivce because we’ve run out of ideas. 21-12-2019 04:11:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nope 21-12-2019 04:11:52 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: mmm, a shame, but at least a fun shame? 21-12-2019 04:12:04 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: Eh 21-12-2019 04:12:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also apparently capturing is like, a bad idea, because it has telekinetic blades which cut anything 21-12-2019 04:12:20 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: hah, yeah 21-12-2019 04:12:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 8 is the best movie 21-12-2019 04:12:34 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: but you gotta capture em at some point to interrogate em 21-12-2019 04:12:46 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: I still can’t understand that viewpoint ER. 21-12-2019 04:12:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's insane and unbalanced, just as all things should be 21-12-2019 04:13:25 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I'd comment but I haven't seen it, so I'll have to defer to the experts~ 21-12-2019 04:13:40 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: oh, but I've been suspicious of kaiju intelligence for a while now 21-12-2019 04:13:53 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: Like there’s so many pointless scenes. And so much stuff that’s just non sensical. 21-12-2019 04:13:54 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I have this naggin feeling that there's more to them than we've considered 21-12-2019 04:14:27 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: this kaiju's regeneration apparently being stun-interrupted is another point of suspicion for that 21-12-2019 04:14:52 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: makes me suspect they're organic mechs some kind of crew is attempting to control 21-12-2019 04:14:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just like monster hunter! 21-12-2019 04:14:57 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: and repair, in this one's case 21-12-2019 04:15:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: whack it in the head! 21-12-2019 04:15:16 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: that's the other possibility, yeah- that it's gamier than I'm thinking of 21-12-2019 04:16:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: eh, repair comes from the head part and is stopped by damage to the head part? 21-12-2019 04:17:09 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: possibly some kind of "special abilities are located in the head" thing 21-12-2019 04:17:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hey, you know what sounds wierdly interesting to me? 21-12-2019 04:17:26 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: so hits to the head interrupt that, yeah 21-12-2019 04:17:31 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: go on... 21-12-2019 04:17:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: a videogame like a zachtronics game aobut tinkering with the nanoguns from Iji 21-12-2019 04:17:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: 'ki 21-12-2019 04:18:11 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: never played very far in iji, what nanoguns? 21-12-2019 04:18:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: the gun is a nanogun. 21-12-2019 04:18:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like, taking different bits of programming from different guns and having them shunt around and modify projectiles inside 21-12-2019 04:18:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: they're all nanoguns. 21-12-2019 04:19:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ideally you'd have like, a shooting game where you go around collecting different guns and can take bits from them to make different guns 21-12-2019 04:20:00 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: oh, that's cool 21-12-2019 04:20:08 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I don't think I recall them mentioning the nanogun stuff 21-12-2019 04:20:17 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: although I remember they were all dinosaurs or something...? 21-12-2019 04:20:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: there's a whole system around them, but it's not like the thing I just described ;P 21-12-2019 04:21:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: iji's gun is a nanogun, you can pick up new weapons while like... absorb into the gun? 21-12-2019 04:21:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: was T2 better, MJ? 21-12-2019 04:21:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the Komato are sort of dinosaur like 21-12-2019 04:21:32 -!- MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21-12-2019 04:22:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: though they used to look like what the Tasen look like, which is basically like humans? 21-12-2019 04:22:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and also I think they were all from Earth originally 21-12-2019 04:23:11 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: yeah there's something weird there with almost humans and dinosaurs and genocide and genemodding themselves into the other thing for some reason 21-12-2019 04:23:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you don't EXACTLY see what the aliens look like because they're all fully armored 21-12-2019 04:24:12 -!- MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 04:24:16 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: Much much better dev 21-12-2019 04:24:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the komato modified themselves, some of them didn't like that and splintered off into the Tasen, now the Komato want to genocide all the Tasen because yay genocide 21-12-2019 04:24:42 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: I can’t even describe the amount of better ness T2 has versus the new Star Wars movies 21-12-2019 04:24:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: komato are sort of violent 21-12-2019 04:24:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: well, that's what dinosaurs do to you. 21-12-2019 04:26:34 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: what's T2? 21-12-2019 04:27:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: we watched terminator 2 yesterday. 21-12-2019 04:27:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: for some of us, it was for the first time. 21-12-2019 04:27:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...I wish that Iji had a sequel or something 21-12-2019 04:28:57 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: oh wow 21-12-2019 04:29:08 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: it's such a famous movie D: 21-12-2019 04:29:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ernie is gud 21-12-2019 04:29:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: guns r good. 21-12-2019 04:29:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: and the stunts weren't overdone. 21-12-2019 04:29:40 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: T2 is fantastic. 21-12-2019 04:31:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tea two 21-12-2019 04:31:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: are there any termie movies after 2? 21-12-2019 04:33:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Irony? 21-12-2019 04:34:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: isn't it ironic 21-12-2019 04:35:13 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: Nope ER. There are absolutely no sequels to T2 whatsoever....at leas there are no sequels you can watch without taking San damage 21-12-2019 04:35:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: jokes on them I have 0 max san 21-12-2019 04:37:22 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: that's what I suspected, but I've never seen them myself :x 21-12-2019 04:37:46 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: which is itself *probably* pretty damning by itself 21-12-2019 04:38:00 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: but then I haven't seen many of the Marvel movies either and supposedly they're all great 21-12-2019 04:38:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I've heard that the new new one might be good? 21-12-2019 04:38:26 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I heard it was trash 21-12-2019 04:38:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: It's better than the last couple. 21-12-2019 04:38:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ha, marvel movies 21-12-2019 04:38:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: it's still not great. 21-12-2019 04:38:35 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: oh hah 21-12-2019 04:38:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: must be at least as good as marvel, right? 21-12-2019 04:39:14 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: I don’t really like most of the marvel movies honestlly. 21-12-2019 04:39:23 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: They’re just kinda formulaic. 21-12-2019 04:39:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I've onyl really seen a couple 21-12-2019 04:39:56 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I mean, they are superhero flicks 21-12-2019 04:40:13 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: the ones I've seen were good but obviously on the dumb fun side of things 21-12-2019 04:40:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mmm 21-12-2019 04:40:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: oh, do have a question for you, IO. 21-12-2019 04:40:53 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: oh? 21-12-2019 04:40:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: have you read any of the novels by Patrick Rothfuss? 21-12-2019 04:41:04 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: haha, very first part of one 21-12-2019 04:41:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: MAN was I pissed 21-12-2019 04:41:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: pissed? 21-12-2019 04:41:21 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: it's terrible irrelevant rambling wank D:< 21-12-2019 04:41:34 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: or the meager parts I got through were 21-12-2019 04:41:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Hah. 21-12-2019 04:41:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Maaan, you missed a lot. 21-12-2019 04:41:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: goblin fight! goblin fight! 21-12-2019 04:42:08 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: I’ll get the popcorn ER. 21-12-2019 04:42:24 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: what'd you think of em, dev? 21-12-2019 04:42:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Probably the two best novels I've read in fifteen, twenty years. 21-12-2019 04:42:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: good upstanding owl with good tastes VS goblin! 21-12-2019 04:43:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Just so much going on, done by someone who really knows how to write. 21-12-2019 04:44:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: today I was going through a recap chapter in the second one, and breaking down the foreshadowing for the main plot that was being hidden by one character's actions. 21-12-2019 04:44:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: It was like "Man, this is a boring recap chapter, describing things for someone who missed the first one.", and behind the scenes it's like, 'well, this character did a lot to bring this conversation about.' 21-12-2019 04:45:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: she was looking for these three people for about three weeks, and when they got together, she's using three different rhetorical techniques in order to convince them to give her secret information. 21-12-2019 04:45:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: And then follows it up with two seperate kinds of bribes, all casual and played off the light tones of the interaction between the three friends. 21-12-2019 04:47:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Then after getting the goods, she drops a very casual hint that indicates what she's been doing for the past half a year or so. 21-12-2019 04:47:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: which, if you've been following closely enough and figured out the secrets, is the core confrontation the entire series is building up towards. 21-12-2019 04:48:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: And the whole frelling book is like that. There's like three or four narratives going on at all points, and it's all dependant on the authors extremely careful word choice and phrasing. 21-12-2019 04:49:05 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: that sounds pretty amazing, but I couldn't get past the gypsy kid rambling about every aspect of his childhood 21-12-2019 04:49:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Plus you can only know to look for that because of who the main character is. The descriptions lay out the basis and justifications for looking beyond the surface structure, through use of specific examples from said childhood. 21-12-2019 04:49:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah, that can be rough, but I think every freaking thing in there is important later. 21-12-2019 04:49:45 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: hm 21-12-2019 04:49:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: and not due to it just magically showing up, like a normal hero. 21-12-2019 04:50:06 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: sounds interesting, but also kind of like it's more puzzle than story in some places? 21-12-2019 04:50:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: There's some of that. 21-12-2019 04:50:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: but some otherwise. 21-12-2019 04:50:25 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: or maybe more like a murder mystery and less like a typical fantasy or adventure series 21-12-2019 04:50:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Generally there will be something you'll notice that's off, and everyone I've talked to has seen different things. 21-12-2019 04:50:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: so that's what sticks with that particular reader. 21-12-2019 04:50:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Like, are there any parts of the beginning that seem off? 21-12-2019 04:51:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yo, I need to sleep 21-12-2019 04:51:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: see ya, ER. 21-12-2019 04:51:43 < MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu: Night ER 21-12-2019 04:51:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and dev ranting about his nerd books seems like a good place to start 21-12-2019 04:51:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: <3 21-12-2019 04:51:59 -!- ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 21-12-2019 04:52:09 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: mmm, I don't recall, been a while 21-12-2019 04:52:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: well. 21-12-2019 04:52:47 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I remember the stone spider thing being weird, but not which parts 21-12-2019 04:52:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I haven't figured those out. 21-12-2019 04:53:02 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: and the whole camping out in an inn thing was off 21-12-2019 04:53:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah. 21-12-2019 04:53:12 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: maybe I'll see if I can find the book and give it another shot 21-12-2019 04:53:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: That's a core question. 21-12-2019 04:53:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: "Why is this character a failed inkeeper, if he's so famous?" 21-12-2019 04:54:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: eh. 21-12-2019 04:56:53 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I just assumed it was fallen wank 21-12-2019 04:57:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Mmm. 21-12-2019 04:57:12 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: woe is him down on his luck, let's hear about how many sex goddesses he used to bang 21-12-2019 04:57:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: He doesn't bang anyone until book two. 21-12-2019 04:57:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Nah, he fucked up in a very deliberate manner. 21-12-2019 04:57:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I don't know exactly how, but I suspect it's because he succeeded, not because he failed, just fucked things up due to being a prideful git. 21-12-2019 04:58:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I mean, he screws up in manners due to pride like a dozen times per book. 21-12-2019 04:58:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: so I think the main one may be the same way. 21-12-2019 05:09:21 -!- MJ!Mutter@2600:1005:b140:zwmm:wivt:jhvq:gzqk:qpxu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21-12-2019 05:34:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mmm. 21-12-2019 06:28:51 < * Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net wonders if syv is going to show up. 21-12-2019 06:29:21 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I'm hoping to prod him for thoughts as well 21-12-2019 06:29:47 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: he tends to have pretty good insights into the situation, though part of that's just his extra data 21-12-2019 06:30:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, he does get some extra debriefing info. 21-12-2019 06:30:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: plus he's big on number-crunching. 21-12-2019 06:31:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Do feel free to ask questions. I might not give you the same kinda info, but I might give you something. 21-12-2019 06:31:48 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: well question one would be how the council feels about our performance 21-12-2019 06:32:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mmm. 21-12-2019 06:32:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: have to add up the scoring to answer that one. 21-12-2019 06:32:31 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I see 21-12-2019 06:32:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: could be better for that one. 21-12-2019 06:32:49 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: like actually killing it or not all dying, for example 21-12-2019 06:33:14 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: "Room For Improvement", let's say 21-12-2019 06:33:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: and lots of city damage. 21-12-2019 06:34:23 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: "there's still a quarter of a city left, that's pretty good right?" 21-12-2019 06:34:38 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21-12-2019 06:36:05 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 06:36:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: sorry. 21-12-2019 06:36:53 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: not your fault your internet/client hates you 21-12-2019 06:37:02 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: ...I guess your client kinda would be on you, but still 21-12-2019 06:37:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: it was on me, I'm doing something in another tab and crashed my browser. 21-12-2019 06:37:27 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: anyway, could we tell how powerful a hit to the head was necessary to block that skin-flowing thing? 21-12-2019 06:37:28 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: ah 21-12-2019 06:37:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mmm, that's more of a syv question there. 21-12-2019 06:38:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: but you do know you can knock out bits of a kaiju with a hit to the right bit. 21-12-2019 06:38:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Apparently that doesn't apply to just weapons. 21-12-2019 06:39:17 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: hm? 21-12-2019 06:39:35 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: oh, you mean like it can have special abilities local to its head or dong or whatever 21-12-2019 06:39:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: also, non-weapon special abilities exist. 21-12-2019 06:40:19 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: yeah, that too 21-12-2019 06:40:32 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: MAN I need to research kaijuskin armor 21-12-2019 06:40:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: so do that. 21-12-2019 06:40:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: ;-p 21-12-2019 06:41:01 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: but I also need to research giant crabmen and retrofits to an obsolete submarine! 21-12-2019 06:41:33 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: but yeah, kaijuskin vehicle armor module would probably have a huge benefit for its cost 21-12-2019 06:42:37 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: doesn't help that I wedged myself into efficient bit harvesting, so now I'm hesitant to do actual research :p 21-12-2019 06:43:02 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I suspect it'll be a while before we figure out whether that was a good or bad idea 21-12-2019 06:43:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: wooob. 21-12-2019 06:44:24 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: I mean, if I can offload a multistage project to another org it should be super efficient 21-12-2019 06:44:31 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: but setting that up will be tricky 21-12-2019 06:44:58 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: and the longer the project the bigger the payout, but most people probably aren't gonna need several turns worth of bits all at once, so the payment gets a bit wonky 21-12-2019 06:50:12 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: remind me of the size scales again? 21-12-2019 06:51:27 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: Small is small truck, Medium is helicopter/tank, Large is bomber/air transport 21-12-2019 06:51:48 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: Large +2 or +3 is battleship, but I don't remember what's in between 21-12-2019 06:52:02 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: other than that Huge (Large+1) is Submarine, apparently 21-12-2019 06:53:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Huge is up to 1200-ish tons of steel. 21-12-2019 06:54:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: each class is very roughly up to something ten times larger. 21-12-2019 07:11:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mmm 21-12-2019 07:13:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Chuck's reviewing a cartoon I've never heard of. 21-12-2019 07:13:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Apparently someone made an animated adaptation based off Dragon's Lair. 21-12-2019 07:14:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Also apparently it's so stupid it's good. 21-12-2019 07:15:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: "For the first time in a long time, I found myself calling over to my wife to watch with me, because I felt that this is so absurd that I could simply not stand being the only one in the household with knowledge of its existance." 21-12-2019 07:26:37 < IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net: never heard of either of those things, but stupid good is good 21-12-2019 07:30:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Stupid Good! 21-12-2019 07:31:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I will admit that's somewhat lacking from the Rothfuss novels. 21-12-2019 08:37:05 -!- IronyOwl!Mibbit@jy39-3-832-883.sd.sd.cox.net has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 21-12-2019 10:34:25 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 10:34:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Devastator. 21-12-2019 10:34:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mmm 21-12-2019 10:34:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: questions? 21-12-2019 10:35:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Next time IO shows up, you can tell him that the puzzle novel part of NotW is really not obvious nor at all necessary to enjoying it. 21-12-2019 10:35:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mmm. 21-12-2019 10:35:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah, that's a thought. 21-12-2019 10:36:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: dunno, though, felt like I needed to put something more out. 21-12-2019 10:37:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: At least when I was reading, it was mostly invisible, and there only a few parts that I felt were mostly there to get you asking questions about why they matter, like that long segment with the story about the... fallen kingdoms, I think? And general stuff about the Chandrian, though they're monstery enough that their antics can just be taken at face value. 21-12-2019 10:37:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I think IO just wants more killy stuff from fantasy novels, not the relatively detailed worldbuilding with slow moving bits. 21-12-2019 10:38:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: It's not really that kind of novel, although there certainly is some action. 21-12-2019 10:38:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Also, my father really liked the book, and he doesn't like puzzling out secrets of stories. He much prefers just relaxing and following the flow of the story, and did that with NotW, and felt the story was great. 21-12-2019 10:38:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah. 21-12-2019 10:38:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: You may have a point, it is *really* heavy on world/character building. 21-12-2019 10:38:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: It is *not* Hardcore Henry the novel. 21-12-2019 10:38:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I was also overcompensating for someone else who didn't really get why it was a special novel earlier. 21-12-2019 10:38:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: just some dude on the 'net, nothing that mattered. 21-12-2019 10:39:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, I do agree with you there. 21-12-2019 10:40:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: it's good for relaxing. 21-12-2019 10:42:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: I don't have any questions, myself, but I'll sign off on IO's question. 21-12-2019 10:42:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: 06:37:27 IronyOwl: anyway, could we tell how powerful a hit to the head was necessary to block that skin-flowing thing? 21-12-2019 10:44:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: (Devastator) It was more about position than power of the hit. 21-12-2019 10:44:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: ok, I'll answer you here. 21-12-2019 10:44:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: But that's really it. It's more where it was hit than how hard. 21-12-2019 10:47:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Mm. 21-12-2019 10:47:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Not really anything to draw from that. 21-12-2019 10:48:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Can we tell our forces to specifically target the head? 21-12-2019 10:48:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: As most things, you can design for stuff that does more X. 21-12-2019 10:48:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Not really. Mostly because next time it might not be the head. 21-12-2019 10:48:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Yeah, figured. 21-12-2019 10:48:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: If you identify a specific thing before the battle starts, you can do that. 21-12-2019 10:49:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: They already aim for identified weakspots, right? Like the infatry aiming at the underbelly, last month 21-12-2019 10:49:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: ? 21-12-2019 10:50:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah, they try to do damage and hit weakspots. 21-12-2019 10:50:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: but sometimes fail. 21-12-2019 10:52:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Mm. What affects the chances of that? Units don't have an accuracy stat, so is everything equal, meaning only RoF affects the chances right now? 21-12-2019 10:52:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Or is it something like "higher power makes it more likely to hit a weakspot"? 21-12-2019 10:53:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Opposite. 21-12-2019 10:53:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: more damaged a kaiju, easier to get damage through. 21-12-2019 10:54:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: equipment stats are independant of kaiju condition, normally. 21-12-2019 10:54:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: stronger weapons just have better shots of dealing damage. 21-12-2019 10:57:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: (Devastator) more damaged a kaiju, easier to get damage through. 21-12-2019 10:57:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: yeah. 21-12-2019 10:57:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: ..I said that here. 21-12-2019 10:58:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: I'm very slightly annoyed that you just give me that information outright, now, when I'm asking a completely unrelated question, when I spent a couple hours compiling information suggesting it after last battle, and you gave a response to that along the lines of "not quite". 21-12-2019 10:59:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I've mentioned that same thing in previous combat breakdowns. 21-12-2019 10:59:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Also, the opposite of option B would be "lower power makes it more likely to hit a weakspot", while the opposite of option B would be "less attacks make it more likely to hit a weakspot. 21-12-2019 11:00:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Eh. 21-12-2019 11:00:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: If I said 'not quite' it was likely because you had some of the details wrong. 21-12-2019 11:01:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Ahh, I see, you interpreted "power" as "the health of the kaiju", when I meant "the unit's damage stat". 21-12-2019 11:01:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: No, I thought you meant 'power' as 'the unit's damage stat', because you know 'power' as a damage stat. 21-12-2019 11:01:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I use a different name for the kaiju health stat. 21-12-2019 11:01:42 -!- er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 11:01:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: ...Then how is that the opposite of either of the things I described? 21-12-2019 11:02:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Hello, Early Riser. 21-12-2019 11:02:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: There's a third option you aren't considering. 21-12-2019 11:02:27 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Morning 21-12-2019 11:03:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: the weakspot effect is independant of the power stat. 21-12-2019 11:03:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Saying "The opposite of the thing you aren't considering" is... not quite meaningless, but *is* entirely useless. 21-12-2019 11:03:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Nah, I meant 'opposite' 21-12-2019 11:03:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: So, literally option A, yeah? 21-12-2019 11:03:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: as in this: 21-12-2019 11:04:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: The opposite of the weakspot effect depending on weapon stats is the weakspot effect depending on Kaiju stats. 21-12-2019 11:04:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: make sense now? 21-12-2019 11:06:28 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Opposite expert 21-12-2019 11:06:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Sigh. Yes, that's pretty useless as a response. When I'm talking about the comparative effectiveness of the units we can choose and control, providing two options--"unit stats don't matter" and "unit stats do matter"--saying "no", meaning "no, unit stats aside from the units you're talking about do matter", is terrible. 21-12-2019 11:06:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Yes, I know Kaiju stats matter. 21-12-2019 11:06:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: That's obvious. 21-12-2019 11:08:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: If they didn't, that means armor and health are completely irrelevant to whether you can damage a weakspot, which would mean either power of units is extremely important, or infantry would score waaaay more weakspot hits. The latter option is one of the two I mentioned, but wasn't something I was expecting. 21-12-2019 11:08:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: But yeah, "you need to be able to deal damage to hurt a weakspot" is... kinda just self-evident. 21-12-2019 11:08:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Hmm. 21-12-2019 11:09:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, I suppose that battle would deserve a little extra info for effectiveness of low-damage weapons. 21-12-2019 11:09:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: you've had a lot of combat shots rolled. 21-12-2019 11:09:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I'll go PM you this, because I want it all down at once and you'll want to repackage it, ok? 21-12-2019 11:09:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: And yes, I know there's probably confounding factors like "this kaiju has poor/strong armor over weakspots", or "this kaiju has many/few weakspots", among a ton of other ways weakspot hit chance could be further randomized. 21-12-2019 11:10:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Kay. 21-12-2019 11:10:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Seems ranting about bad semantics is usefull sometimes, yaaay 21-12-2019 11:21:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Repackaging: I was correct, only RoF matters for hitting weakspots; chances are completely independant of stats. Additionally, infantry small arms don't do any damage at all, unless modded. 21-12-2019 11:22:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: And yes, we can specially design weapons to have better chances of hitting weakspots, like any other special effect. 21-12-2019 11:23:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I thought about adding that as a main stat, but this way streamlines dice-rolling significantly. 21-12-2019 11:23:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: it's a nice flow once I get the attacks lined up. 21-12-2019 11:42:03 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Blarg 21-12-2019 11:42:31 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Want to talk about things other than boring kaiju science? 21-12-2019 11:42:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Sure, if you have a subject. 21-12-2019 12:06:04 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 21-12-2019 12:06:14 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 12:07:17 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Nope 21-12-2019 12:10:29 -!- er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 21-12-2019 12:36:55 -!- er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 12:37:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: So, FMD? 21-12-2019 12:37:48 < er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: Yeah? 21-12-2019 12:38:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Send any time on it, since the last PM? 21-12-2019 12:38:11 < er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: Can't do that at work. :p 21-12-2019 12:38:19 < er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: Nope, not yet 21-12-2019 12:38:21 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu shrugs 21-12-2019 12:38:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Okay, gonna do it today? 21-12-2019 12:38:39 < er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: Maybe. 21-12-2019 12:38:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Awesome 21-12-2019 12:39:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: I think we pretty much just need skill mechanics now, then there's something runnable. 21-12-2019 12:59:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: Egan: Stop putting ERA on technicals. 21-12-2019 12:59:45 -!- Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 12:59:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu: If you're able to produce it, I'd happily buy ERA from you. 21-12-2019 13:00:16 -!- er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21-12-2019 13:07:48 -!- Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21-12-2019 13:18:54 -!- Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 13:47:35 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.nww.lu has quit [Quit: You hear a distant scream of "FUCK AT&T!"] 21-12-2019 15:30:01 < Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: Devastator, kaiju questions! 21-12-2019 15:31:02 < Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: I can do a research for a blueprint which makes things "in bulk", right? Ie, makes 3 of the thing in one turn using one workshop. 21-12-2019 15:32:19 < Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: 1: does this require a larger workshop? Ie, if I wanted to have a blueprint which makes 3 small vehicles in a month, would I need a medium or larger workshop? 21-12-2019 15:33:20 < Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: 2: can I have an idea how many turns it would take to modify my existing ERA blueprint to make 3 at once? 21-12-2019 15:34:36 < Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: 3: do bulk blueprints cost more, less, or the same number of bucks per thingie produced? 21-12-2019 17:54:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: No, a bunch, the same. 21-12-2019 19:09:51 -!- Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21-12-2019 19:11:21 -!- Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 19:14:37 < Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: It would take that long to modify a blueprint for mass production? 21-12-2019 19:15:03 < Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: Eh, guess that's why I made another workshop 21-12-2019 19:20:52 < * Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net grumbles about people wanting to do nothing in SGs 21-12-2019 19:31:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: it's quicker if you design a workshop that can only make those. 21-12-2019 19:39:41 < Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: It is? 21-12-2019 19:40:14 < Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: Fewer turns to research an ERA factory? 21-12-2019 19:43:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Yeah. 21-12-2019 19:48:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: but do say how many you want it to be able to build. 21-12-2019 19:52:11 -!- Elasticly_Rigid!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 21-12-2019 19:55:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: but think about it, you'd have to build the factory and spend upkeep on it, so it should have some benefits to make up for those. 21-12-2019 20:34:09 -!- er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 21-12-2019 20:34:36 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Pls give candy 21-12-2019 20:36:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: caaandy. 21-12-2019 20:36:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I have baking. 21-12-2019 20:36:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: do cookies count? 21-12-2019 20:52:25 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yesh 21-12-2019 20:52:33 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Give sweets 21-12-2019 20:54:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: ok 21-12-2019 20:54:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: come over and you can have some. 21-12-2019 21:06:49 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Does the bus go that far? 21-12-2019 21:12:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: ..no, it doesn't. 21-12-2019 21:13:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: you can get to the city, but not this neighborhood. 21-12-2019 21:33:35 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Is ERA mountable on infantry power armor? 21-12-2019 21:34:23 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Apologies if my questions meander in circles over time... 21-12-2019 21:35:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: no, ERA is only for vehicles. 21-12-2019 21:35:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: although I'd like a real example of 'power armour' to be sure. 21-12-2019 21:37:08 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Buff catgirls in big armor 21-12-2019 21:37:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: have to make the armour. 21-12-2019 21:38:53 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Might just grab an MS, tell "power armor" see what happens 21-12-2019 21:39:48 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Eh, more likely I'll make it myself though. 21-12-2019 21:40:22 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Depends how many scientist hours and dolla bills I get 21-12-2019 21:40:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: dolla billz.