27-11-2019 00:42:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ8tH8uG2t0&list=PLtQwvs0YaimKMBZTPYRMZYN7eUEC6FGa2&index=2&t=0s
27-11-2019 00:42:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Having Lords of Magic be your introduction to gaming is extremely lucky.
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27-11-2019 01:35:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Better than having mystery of the druids 
27-11-2019 01:37:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Heya Piecewise.
27-11-2019 01:37:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: was that yours?
27-11-2019 01:39:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: I have no memory
27-11-2019 01:39:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: probably something on the NES or genesis
27-11-2019 01:40:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Maybe duck hunt
27-11-2019 01:40:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: thats the oldest one I remember
27-11-2019 01:40:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: *shrug*
27-11-2019 01:42:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mmm.
27-11-2019 01:42:57 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Sonic Adventure. ;0
27-11-2019 01:43:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I slightly predate the NES.
27-11-2019 01:43:19 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: (Probably not true, but close enough~)
27-11-2019 01:44:03 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: I got into games pretty late due to my worry wort mother
27-11-2019 01:44:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: fun fact, she didn't let us watch Hamtaro. Probably because she distrusts them wily Orientals. 
27-11-2019 01:45:01 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I remember imploring the mall santa for videogames, just in general, then getting a dreamcast. I don't recall why I wanted videogames.
27-11-2019 01:45:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: It'd probably be with the Intellivision.
27-11-2019 01:45:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: ooh, that's a thing.
27-11-2019 01:45:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Poor dreamcast
27-11-2019 01:45:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: boren to die
27-11-2019 01:45:44 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Best console~
27-11-2019 01:45:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Hey
27-11-2019 01:45:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Neogeo exists
27-11-2019 01:46:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: you fool
27-11-2019 01:46:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: It's a fair point with the dreamcast.
27-11-2019 01:46:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: yeah, if anything I'd have to say it was BurgerTime on the Intellivision.
27-11-2019 01:47:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59097d79ebe912338a378ab8/master/w_727,c_limit/Parkin-TheUnexpectedlyHigh-StakesWorldofNeoGeoCollecting.jpg
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27-11-2019 02:09:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mm
27-11-2019 02:11:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mm.
27-11-2019 02:25:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: "Occupy Dwarf Street"
27-11-2019 02:25:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: effing dorfs.
27-11-2019 02:25:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: effing dwarfs!
27-11-2019 02:26:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Dwarf streets?
27-11-2019 02:26:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Dwarf on the streets, giant in the sheets
27-11-2019 02:26:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think I've figured out what a good setpiece for a oneshot DnD would be
27-11-2019 02:27:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: there's a forest of trees which grow runes in their bark, each of them keeps one eldritch being bound. Some fucking dwarves want to cut a few down because the wood is anti-magic
27-11-2019 03:16:45 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: The best set piece would be shifting the game into a different system
27-11-2019 03:17:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: That's one of the most classic ones of all time, PW.
27-11-2019 03:18:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: "Expedition to the Barrier Peaks"
27-11-2019 03:33:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: I just don't like the DND system
27-11-2019 03:33:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: it strikes me as bloated
27-11-2019 03:34:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: eh
27-11-2019 03:34:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: has good stuff, don't get me wrong
27-11-2019 03:34:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 5e isn't too bad for people new to RPG systems to learn
27-11-2019 03:34:36 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Then again, I'm most...familiar with 3.5
27-11-2019 03:35:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: I've heard 5e is more simple
27-11-2019 03:35:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: all things equal I'd probably prefer to make my own simple system, but may as well go with what's known
27-11-2019 03:35:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: just use the black hack
27-11-2019 03:35:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 5e is nice in that it's simpler without sacrificing too much actual depth
27-11-2019 03:36:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it more like... worded better. :V
27-11-2019 03:37:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mmm.
27-11-2019 03:37:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: 5e isn't bad, but it's just as imbalanced as previous versions.  ;-p
27-11-2019 03:37:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: it's funnish.
27-11-2019 03:37:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: and certainly simpler than 3.5.
27-11-2019 03:37:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I doubt it'll stay that way.
27-11-2019 03:41:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: it'll get complicated.
27-11-2019 03:42:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: it always does
27-11-2019 03:45:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: aye
27-11-2019 03:46:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: y'aye
27-11-2019 03:46:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Here ER
27-11-2019 03:46:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cY4bD9S63JO75uu8ayT6KdRLN9fCkrhZ
27-11-2019 03:47:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the fuck is this
27-11-2019 03:47:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: fully updated version of black hack v2 with all the extras. 
27-11-2019 03:47:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay what the fuck is this
27-11-2019 03:47:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: The black hack is a OSR hack of the original DND rules that are quite simple but also with a lot of depth if you want
27-11-2019 03:47:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: they're very well liked
27-11-2019 03:48:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fcuk em
27-11-2019 03:48:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: either I'll use something my IRL people have ever heard of or I'll do it myself
27-11-2019 03:48:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: They might have heard of it
27-11-2019 03:49:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: its sold tons
27-11-2019 03:49:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Heh.
27-11-2019 03:49:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: does it include the relative polearm bonus table?
27-11-2019 03:51:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: I highly doubt it
27-11-2019 03:52:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: But I'll check
27-11-2019 03:52:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: I need to know if I should use my glaive-guisarm or my voulge!
27-11-2019 03:56:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: There's rules for "Large" weapons
27-11-2019 03:56:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: but thats it
27-11-2019 03:56:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: the actual rules are about 30 pages
27-11-2019 03:56:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: larg
27-11-2019 03:56:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: mmm
27-11-2019 03:56:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: nope, no polearm table then.
27-11-2019 03:56:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Is there still Thac0?
27-11-2019 03:57:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: I'm not sure waht you mean
27-11-2019 03:57:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: thaco!
27-11-2019 03:57:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: its thac0 you nerd
27-11-2019 03:57:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Oh, to hit armor class
27-11-2019 03:59:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: yesh.
27-11-2019 03:59:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: particularly 20s hitting four different AC values.  ;-p
27-11-2019 04:02:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: to hit armour class zero.
27-11-2019 04:03:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Nah, it doesn't use AC. It uses attribute tests for attacking and defending. Armor grants an "Armor pool" that lets you ignore damage a certain number of times depending on the armor, before the armor breaks. You can then try to fix the armor outside of combat, but it is harder to do with more powerful armor
27-11-2019 04:04:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: And if you fail it breaks it till you get it fixed at a blacksmith
27-11-2019 04:05:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Oh, THAT ruleset.
27-11-2019 04:05:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: So that's what that ruleset is.
27-11-2019 04:31:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tuna fiiiish
27-11-2019 04:32:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: stole it all to myself~
27-11-2019 04:33:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: "Order be praised"
27-11-2019 04:42:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: With a side of fries
27-11-2019 04:53:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: three panels of people's faces looking shook, one panel with kitty cat, looking FUCKING FURIOUS
27-11-2019 04:53:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: http://www.sssscomic.com/comic2.php?page=190
27-11-2019 05:02:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: Didn't know you read SSSS
27-11-2019 05:03:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@54-055-76-17.lsv0.qwest.net: I've never read it myself. I saw something called sssscomic and when I found out it wasn't about snakes I gave up
27-11-2019 05:13:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Heh.
27-11-2019 05:13:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: "Why is this dungeon level 11?  It looks like shit."
27-11-2019 05:14:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: "What level is this fucking guy?"
27-11-2019 05:14:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: "There's TWO of them?"
27-11-2019 05:14:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: heh.
27-11-2019 06:18:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: ok
27-11-2019 06:18:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: no k-com questions tonight, eh?
27-11-2019 06:23:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I had one
27-11-2019 06:33:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: *thinking about x-com game* "wait, this will involve a lot of mechanics, won't it? fuck."
27-11-2019 06:37:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: heh.
27-11-2019 06:37:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: MECHANICS.
27-11-2019 06:37:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: It's like me and TALKING.
27-11-2019 06:39:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like, kinda want different alien species to have different stats, so I have to both figure out what those are and what they might mechanically mean in a battle, unless I want to furiously eyeball things.
27-11-2019 06:40:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: Piecewise, what's your opinion on just winging it?
27-11-2019 06:42:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also, silly things with unit veterancy and tactics.
27-11-2019 06:45:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: each individual person in a unit has their own veterancy level. The entire squad can equip tactics which give them bonuses, as many as the highest veterancy level in the squad, AND, each tactic has a level 1 and level 2 verson, and you can only have as many level 2 tactics as the lowest level soldier. :V
27-11-2019 06:45:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so uh, it's best to have everyone trained to the same level, but you can still have one veteran soldier ordering around squaddies, it just won't be as good.
27-11-2019 06:54:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: so do squad tactics affect the squad as a whole or just the units inside it?
27-11-2019 06:55:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hopefully I can just treat the unit as a unit during actual combat?
27-11-2019 06:56:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so, the tactics apply to th whole unit
27-11-2019 06:56:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: which is why it wouldn't just be "soldiers can use as many tactics as their veterancy level"
27-11-2019 07:37:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay, I honestly just really like this character design: https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/king-of-swords-9-106/
27-11-2019 07:39:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: the rogue angel?
27-11-2019 07:40:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: big stone guy~
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27-11-2019 08:30:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@ghbm-2y2zj3ql3dbs8ct7qmc4c7rgq.ipv0.telus.net: showing up tonight syv?