05-10-2019 00:05:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I haven't. 05-10-2019 00:06:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: first roguelike I played was nethack 05-10-2019 00:06:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: eh, close enough. 05-10-2019 00:06:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: rogue's a lot cruder. 05-10-2019 00:07:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think Noita is a lot closer than most roguish games by the metric of actually being interesting though. 05-10-2019 00:07:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and not having FUCKING META PROGRESSION ;P 05-10-2019 00:07:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah. 05-10-2019 00:09:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://imgur.com/2iDEj1g 05-10-2019 00:09:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://imgur.com/Xo3ErMX 05-10-2019 00:09:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: This is a bad sign 05-10-2019 00:10:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: good old bouncy balls 05-10-2019 00:11:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: zap zap zap zap 05-10-2019 00:12:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I guess this was inevitable 05-10-2019 00:12:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://imgur.com/yYUeFbn 05-10-2019 00:12:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: note though that it came out of nowhere, no laser sight 05-10-2019 00:12:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: slapped in the face by a rifle bullet 05-10-2019 00:12:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: zap. 05-10-2019 01:29:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: zot 05-10-2019 01:36:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Ugh, why did nature have to change orders from 'develop my toxin' to 'biomod creatures' 05-10-2019 01:36:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I can't really do both. 05-10-2019 01:36:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: oh well, have to go with the first one. 05-10-2019 01:42:31 -!- ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05-10-2019 02:23:48 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh has joined #einsteinianroulette 05-10-2019 02:24:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Why the hatred for meta progression? 05-10-2019 02:25:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: it renders the game meaningless. 05-10-2019 02:26:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ... 05-10-2019 02:26:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: What? 05-10-2019 02:26:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It's a game, it's completely meaningless beyond how much you enjoy it. 05-10-2019 02:26:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: yeah. 05-10-2019 02:26:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: it means that once you're happy, you will never be happy again. 05-10-2019 02:27:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: as you progress past that point. 05-10-2019 02:29:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: No, it means that once *you're* happy, you'll never be happy again. 05-10-2019 02:29:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Because you're a goblin. 05-10-2019 02:30:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I played through the entirety of Noita, by savescumming, because I wanted to see more content. And... strangely enough, I both enjoyed that run, and *still* enjoy the rest of the game. 05-10-2019 02:30:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Without any cheating. 05-10-2019 02:31:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean other people can't enjoy something. And there's legitimate reasons to enjoy meta progression; for one thing, this game has a *ton* of content, but a lot of it is locked to anyone who doesn't play skillfully for a half hour or so through earlier content. 05-10-2019 02:32:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It's not a competitive game, so even a halfassed "You start with more HP, if you choose to unlock it." wouldn't hurt the game for people who choose not to take it. 05-10-2019 02:33:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: And that's by far the laziest way they could implement meta progression. 05-10-2019 02:34:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: That's a detailed and at-length wholly subjective statement. ;-p 05-10-2019 02:35:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: "Some people enjoy different things" is subjective? 05-10-2019 02:35:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah. 05-10-2019 02:36:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I suppose "Having the option to have an easier time won't make the game worse for people who like difficulty" *is* subjective, strictly speaking. 05-10-2019 02:36:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: You'd be suprised how good marketing is. 05-10-2019 02:36:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Okay, that's nonsense. You're just complaining about something you dislike, now. 05-10-2019 02:37:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Marketing is effective, but that doesn't mean everyone likes the same things, with the only differences being made-up or forced. 05-10-2019 02:39:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: eh, it's fair that there is truth to that statement. 05-10-2019 02:39:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: the rest is subjective, though. 05-10-2019 02:41:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Literally no. Message 1 & 2 are insults, 3&4 are fact, 5 is half fact ("people enjoy things you dislike"), half subjective conclusion drawn from fact, 6 is subjective, though "Noita isn't competitive" is pretty hard to argue, and 7 is arguable due to a superlative but that doesn't detract from its truth. 05-10-2019 02:43:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: what do you mean it's not competitive. 05-10-2019 02:43:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: there's speedrunning. 05-10-2019 02:43:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: and it's a game where you shoot things. 05-10-2019 02:43:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: those are both forms of competition! 05-10-2019 02:45:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: You can use it to compete, but it's a terrible choice for competition. It's ridiculously luck based, even given phenomenal skill, which speedrunners and competitive people... tend to dislike? "Play the game 400 times, eventually you'll by chance find an early wand with multiple black holes, and have a chance at coming close to the WR". 05-10-2019 02:46:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I'm pretty sure the fastest way to get through any level is with teleportitis, and stupid luck, which is an insanely random thing. 05-10-2019 02:47:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Finally, I literally just said that the "it's not competitive" is subjective, it's just that you've gotta be an idiot or a futilely argumentative individual to argue it. 05-10-2019 02:49:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: There are competitive speedruns of Yu-Gi-Oh Reshef of Destruction, which is insanely random. 05-10-2019 02:49:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: basically you spend from like five minutes to four hours fishing for single cards multiple times. 05-10-2019 02:50:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Uhhuh. And would giving Noita meta-progression that can be fully unlocked after ten hours of play make it any worse, in a competitive sense? 05-10-2019 02:51:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: yeah. 05-10-2019 02:51:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: it would require resetting each run. 05-10-2019 02:51:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: How so? 05-10-2019 02:51:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Why? 05-10-2019 02:52:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: So you can start on even ground. 05-10-2019 02:52:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Starting with meta progression fully unlocked wouldn't be starting on even ground? 05-10-2019 02:52:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah. 05-10-2019 02:52:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: even ground is always 'from zero' 05-10-2019 02:52:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: so that version changes are less disruptive. 05-10-2019 02:53:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: You're still going to have people migrate to versions with better perks, but it'll be less disruptive. 05-10-2019 02:53:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Ah, okay then. 05-10-2019 02:55:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Noita would still be better with meta progression. 05-10-2019 02:56:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: (Also, it actually *does* have meta progression, which very barely affects the game, but it still would require full resets because it can affect the game.) 05-10-2019 02:57:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: the end of the turn is in sight. 05-10-2019 02:57:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Fuck meta progression, it's shit. 05-10-2019 02:57:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I'd rather win due to skill than have it be inevitable. 05-10-2019 02:58:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It being shit is subjective. 05-10-2019 02:58:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Why? Is your time that valueless? 05-10-2019 02:59:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: It's a game, syv. 05-10-2019 02:59:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I play games to play games. 05-10-2019 02:59:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah. 05-10-2019 02:59:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: which involves spending time playing games. 05-10-2019 02:59:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I get the fun from playing them. 05-10-2019 02:59:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: so yeah, the time is the fun part. 05-10-2019 02:59:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: But you didn't say you don't want to win, you said you'd *rather* win by skill than inevitability. 05-10-2019 03:00:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ...But winning by skill is a time investment. 05-10-2019 03:00:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: So? 05-10-2019 03:00:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It's also an inevitability, just one that takes longer. 05-10-2019 03:00:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I haven't went below level 3, syv. 05-10-2019 03:00:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Winning is not an inevitability. 05-10-2019 03:00:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It is if you spend long enough. 05-10-2019 03:00:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Which is also true of winning a game with meta progression. 05-10-2019 03:00:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: If Noita had meta progression, I still wouldn't have won in one hour. 05-10-2019 03:00:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Not really. With meta progression it becomes increasingly difficult to not win. 05-10-2019 03:01:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: so eventually you will win. 05-10-2019 03:01:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I'd rather just play. 05-10-2019 03:01:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ...But if spend the next fifty years playing Noita, I'm going to win at some point. 05-10-2019 03:01:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: If I feel like I want to win it, I'd try for that. 05-10-2019 03:01:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Meta progression or no. 05-10-2019 03:01:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: In general, yeah. 05-10-2019 03:01:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Turn up. 05-10-2019 03:02:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Now, you might be different from me in this respect, but I tend to like doing new things. I don't really play DaS vanilla with no challenge modifiers very often, but I do love to play a new challenge, or with a new mod. 05-10-2019 03:03:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Meta progression in Noita could remove some of the game's tedium, and allow more time spent playing different content. 05-10-2019 03:03:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: If I wanted to play something new, I'd play a different game. 05-10-2019 03:04:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: If I want to play Noita, I play Noita. 05-10-2019 03:04:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Winning is something beside the point; good meta progression would expand the game, and probably only make it easier as a side effect. 05-10-2019 03:04:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: What do you like about Noita, then? 05-10-2019 03:04:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Why do you want to play it over tic-tac-toe? 05-10-2019 03:04:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I like the action. 05-10-2019 03:05:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: meta progression would feel like it would take away from the action. 05-10-2019 03:05:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Why? 05-10-2019 03:06:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Because things would die easier or be less capable of killing me. 05-10-2019 03:06:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Why? 05-10-2019 03:06:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: because that's what meta progression is. 05-10-2019 03:06:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: more stuff given to the player for time. 05-10-2019 03:06:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Does "stuff" always make it easier? 05-10-2019 03:07:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Almost always, yeah. 05-10-2019 03:07:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: and in cases where it doesn't, why not just have it all unlocked to begin with? 05-10-2019 03:07:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I just checked DoomRL, I can't run a dual-angel game. 05-10-2019 03:08:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Presumably it's an unlockable, and yet to my recollection, angel challenges make the game more difficult. 05-10-2019 03:08:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Almost always, yeah. 05-10-2019 03:08:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: So it's meta-progression which doesn't make the game easier. 05-10-2019 03:08:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: and meta progression is one of the most annoying things in DoomRL. 05-10-2019 03:08:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ...To you. 05-10-2019 03:09:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah. 05-10-2019 03:09:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: As to why not to have it unlocked from the start--because for a new player, increased challenges can make the game less fun, when they still don't know the basics. 05-10-2019 03:10:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Sure. 05-10-2019 03:10:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I think one of the best ways Noita could add meta progression is a random wand at the start of the levsl--it would make the first level less samey, because currently the first few minutes almost always play identically, while later levels play *drastically* differently based on your perks and wands. 05-10-2019 03:10:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: :-( 05-10-2019 03:10:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: More reason to not want it then. 05-10-2019 03:11:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: But always having a random wand at the start would make it harder to understand for players. 05-10-2019 03:11:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: The starting two wands are a wonderful tutorial. 05-10-2019 03:12:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: So; meta progression. Die twenty times, you get a random starting wand. Reach level one twenty times, you get a random starting perk. 05-10-2019 03:12:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Gah! 05-10-2019 03:13:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Now the first level plays *very* differently, and people spend less time playing the first level that they've played--likely as many as a hundred times, or close to that--meaning they spend more time playing other content. 05-10-2019 03:13:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, it's like "You like the gamplay? Tough. 05-10-2019 03:13:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: You're getting the intended gameplay, not what you like! 05-10-2019 03:13:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Then just ignore it. 05-10-2019 03:13:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I can't! 05-10-2019 03:13:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: You get a free perk! 05-10-2019 03:14:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: *I* would like Noita more with a checkpoint system. I think this legitimately *would* detract from the game for many people. So I... played with a checkpoint system by savescumming. Now I got to play the way I liked, and other people didn't play a way they'd like less. 05-10-2019 03:14:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Ok. 05-10-2019 03:14:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Sure, it'd be best if the free stuff had the option to turn it off, I can get behind that. 05-10-2019 03:14:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: but meta progression is not by choice. 05-10-2019 03:14:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: you WILL get it. 05-10-2019 03:15:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: you WILL play the game as it was intended. 05-10-2019 03:15:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: DoomRL has never forced me to play an angel game. 05-10-2019 03:15:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I tried it, but it detracts from the game for me, so I don't play them. 05-10-2019 03:15:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah. 05-10-2019 03:15:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: but you're suggesting things that can't be ignored. 05-10-2019 03:15:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Go back to using your qualifiers, Dev. "Most meta progression is not by choice". 05-10-2019 03:16:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Unless it can be turned off. 05-10-2019 03:16:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Menu option: Free stuff? Off. 05-10-2019 03:16:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Not many menu options like that. 05-10-2019 03:16:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I can think of unlockable challenges. 05-10-2019 03:16:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Just becuase it's unusual doesn't mean it's inferior. 05-10-2019 03:16:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: but not many menu items for turning off progression. 05-10-2019 03:17:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I'm sure it's been done, and if not, well, maybe Noita should be even more groundbreaking. 05-10-2019 03:17:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I'd say it'd be better with unavoidable meta progression than *none at all*, but that's an appeal to statistics. I firmly believe there's more people who would like it than people who wouldn't. 05-10-2019 03:17:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I'm sure it's been done, too. 05-10-2019 03:18:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: but I can think of examples of unlockable challenges, and they're far rarer than meta upgrades. 05-10-2019 03:18:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I can't think of a single 'turn off the progression' option. 05-10-2019 03:18:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah, so? 05-10-2019 03:19:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: That's pretty close to an appeal to incredulity, we both know it's both possible and has likely happened. 05-10-2019 03:19:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: That's pretty rare. 05-10-2019 03:20:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: And if your argument is "It's unlikely to be an option, if meta-progression were in Noita", it's a useless point. I'm saying X would be good, you're saying "X probably wouldn't happen. 05-10-2019 03:20:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: " 05-10-2019 03:20:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: We both know thw argument has no bearing on what the Devs *actually* do. 05-10-2019 03:21:11 < * Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net facepalms 05-10-2019 03:21:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Heh, accidentally capitalized Devs. 05-10-2019 03:21:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: read Nature's orders in Kaiju-Com 2. 05-10-2019 03:21:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Welp, looks like all downside. ;-p 05-10-2019 03:22:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Naturegirl's kinda an idiot, but I don't see what about this action in particular is notable? 05-10-2019 03:22:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah. 05-10-2019 03:23:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: it's processable, but it doesn't do anything. 05-10-2019 03:23:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I suppose I'll just do that. 05-10-2019 03:24:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Ah, yeah. 05-10-2019 03:24:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ...Can I look at her spoiler? 05-10-2019 03:25:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: lemme check my notes. 05-10-2019 03:26:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Prolly not. 05-10-2019 03:42:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Hmm, no Piecewise. 05-10-2019 03:42:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: kk 05-10-2019 04:02:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Oh god damnit 05-10-2019 04:02:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: ? 05-10-2019 04:03:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Thunderstone is BAD idea to carry 05-10-2019 04:03:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I was swapping to my water flask to refill it, rolled through thunderstone, bam, dead. 05-10-2019 04:03:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Even stupider because I *specifically* rebound a key to the water flask thought, thinking of stuff like this. 05-10-2019 04:03:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: heh. 05-10-2019 04:04:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It was a good run, too. 05-10-2019 04:04:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: oops 05-10-2019 04:04:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Had gotten a shield plus a pretty decent basic wand, and went back up to the surface to collect health upgrades--which I got four of. 05-10-2019 04:05:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Then apparently jumping in water with a thunderstone deals *ninety* damage. 05-10-2019 04:05:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: zzzap 05-10-2019 04:05:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: So yeah, just... ugh, screw that rock. 05-10-2019 04:06:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I've never even been able to use it effectively, even when I had it plus infinite water and acid generation. 05-10-2019 04:06:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: heh. 05-10-2019 04:06:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: That sounds boring. 05-10-2019 04:06:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It was! 05-10-2019 04:06:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: And also ineffective! 05-10-2019 04:06:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: The rock just sucks. 05-10-2019 04:20:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ...Oh, it just occured to me. The Crypt of the Necrodancer speedrunning community plays with full unlocks. 05-10-2019 04:21:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: So that's not a rule. 05-10-2019 04:24:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: isn't that because first-play crypt is really easy and boring? 05-10-2019 04:25:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Doesn't matter why. 05-10-2019 04:26:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: And in fact, if it is, that works to my point anyway. 05-10-2019 04:30:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: people will speedrun even really bad speedrunning games? 05-10-2019 04:32:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: People will speedrun the version they prefer to speedrun. 05-10-2019 04:32:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Not simply the basic version from a fresh start. 05-10-2019 04:33:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Saw the new joker movie 05-10-2019 04:33:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: 'Course, that's actually a subjective statement, as you've argued before. 05-10-2019 04:33:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: didn't even get shot in the incel uprising! 05-10-2019 04:33:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: heh. 05-10-2019 04:33:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: any good? 05-10-2019 04:33:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: There's a new joker movie? 05-10-2019 04:33:39 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh has quit [Quit: You hear a distant scream of "FUCK AT&T!"] 05-10-2019 04:33:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Yeah, I'd say really good 05-10-2019 04:33:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: though closer to taxi driver than joker when it comes down to it 05-10-2019 04:34:17 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh has joined #einsteinianroulette 05-10-2019 04:34:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: taxi joker. 05-10-2019 04:34:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I'm a little sad there's a joker backstory. 05-10-2019 04:35:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: It'll be good, but I love the concept that nobody fucking knows shit about the joker. 05-10-2019 04:35:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Has that ever been a concept? 05-10-2019 04:35:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Yeah 05-10-2019 04:35:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: actually its canon that the joker backstories could be a lie 05-10-2019 04:36:16 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: he specifically says it comes out differently each time he tells it in...the killing joke? I think 05-10-2019 04:36:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: but nah, this movie is basically not a comic book movie 05-10-2019 04:36:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: batman doesn't show up at all 05-10-2019 04:37:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: joker only gets into that "character" right near the end 05-10-2019 04:37:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: its basically a character drama 05-10-2019 04:37:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: There's been so many backstories that the canon has been "Nobody really fucking knows" 05-10-2019 04:37:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: No batman should be good. 05-10-2019 04:38:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: sounds good. 05-10-2019 04:41:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: thanks for watching it. 05-10-2019 04:49:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: First temple has a 150 cost wand with six black hole elements. 05-10-2019 04:50:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: don't those take 180? 05-10-2019 04:51:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Do they? 05-10-2019 04:51:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: It's 50% off, so 300 normal cost, but that's still the third most expensive. 05-10-2019 04:51:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: oh, I meant mana. 05-10-2019 04:52:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Cost =/= mana, and yes, 180 mana per cast of Black Hole. And yeah, the wand can't cast them, it's overall a shit wand. 05-10-2019 04:53:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I'm just commenting on getting a *really* heavy haul of black hole so early. 05-10-2019 04:53:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: This is asking for a sequence break. 05-10-2019 04:54:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Pity that the first level spawned precisely zero health upgrades, because luck. 05-10-2019 04:55:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: one day I will just dive. 05-10-2019 04:56:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Why? 05-10-2019 04:57:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: never been below stage 3. 05-10-2019 04:57:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Git gud 05-10-2019 04:59:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: the issue is going everywhere. 05-10-2019 05:00:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Hmm? 05-10-2019 05:01:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I just keep poking around until dead. 05-10-2019 05:01:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: instead of going down. 05-10-2019 05:01:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Even once you're low on health? 05-10-2019 05:02:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: of course! 05-10-2019 05:02:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I poke around until I've either cleared everything, or gotten below ~20 HP. 05-10-2019 05:02:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: ask PW. 05-10-2019 05:02:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Okay then. 05-10-2019 05:02:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I don't really begin to play until I'm at like 4 health. 05-10-2019 05:03:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Mmhm. 05-10-2019 05:10:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: for fucks sake, all these wands have 10 mana regen. 05-10-2019 05:11:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Those kinds of wands tend to have big mana reserves 05-10-2019 05:11:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: good for spraying lots of powerful spells as a sort of last resort 05-10-2019 05:11:57 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: or first resort 05-10-2019 05:12:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: yeah, but it's also got 2.5 second recharge and six 'arrow on trigger' 05-10-2019 05:12:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: This other one has 910 mana, "Always Casts Explosions around spell" but 10 mana regen. 05-10-2019 05:12:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Capacity? 05-10-2019 05:12:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Oh damn. 05-10-2019 05:12:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: That's... a bit lethal if you don't have explosion immunity, but the always-casts wands are great. 05-10-2019 05:13:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: The additional effect is 100% free. 05-10-2019 05:13:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: You can put a digging element on it, and the effect will apply to the digging element. 05-10-2019 05:13:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: With enough, and a low enough natural cast speed, you can have a wand of "send fireballs EVERYWHERE" 05-10-2019 05:14:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: ...I think. Never applied that particular element to a digging element. 05-10-2019 05:14:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: looks like best explosions come from giving it one high-speed spitter bolt. 05-10-2019 05:14:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: very random, still. 05-10-2019 05:15:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Spitter bolt is actually pretty decent in a CQB role, from what I've seen. That might've been on a very fast casting wand though, I forget. 05-10-2019 05:17:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: "Casts two spells, always casts triurificated spell', but only 250 mana and 10 recharge. 05-10-2019 05:17:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Pretty meh. 05-10-2019 05:17:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Trifurcated is free anyway. 05-10-2019 05:18:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Or, wait, no. 05-10-2019 05:18:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: That's the perfect accuracy weird formation one, not the high spread one. 05-10-2019 05:18:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: That's just terrible. 05-10-2019 05:21:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: ok, slapping spare chainsaws to lower the reload rates to near zero is making the wands look impressive now. 05-10-2019 05:21:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: lotsa kaboom. 05-10-2019 05:22:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I *told* you! 05-10-2019 05:23:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I had to buy the chainsaw wand. 05-10-2019 05:23:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Also, chainsaw-enhanced wands remain phenomenal melee weapons. 05-10-2019 05:23:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Even the starting bomb wand with a chainsaw element is a stupid effective melee weapon. 05-10-2019 05:31:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: and died. 05-10-2019 05:31:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: just got ambushed by surprise. 05-10-2019 05:31:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: too bad, fire trail on everything + infinite projectiles was fun. 05-10-2019 05:31:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: and so was the explosion wand, albeit fuck-credibly dangerous. 05-10-2019 05:33:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: was what really killed me, due to doing like 75 damage after firing it like 10 times. 05-10-2019 05:33:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: albeit so did everything else die. 05-10-2019 05:38:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: needed a faster projectile. Maybe two sparkbolts on trigger. 05-10-2019 05:56:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: woob. 05-10-2019 06:15:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Vampirism does not seem to allow health regeneration by drinking fish. 05-10-2019 06:15:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Which makes some sense, I suppose, because fish do not bleed. 05-10-2019 06:20:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: fish have blood. 05-10-2019 06:20:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: I think I need a chainsaw to get it, though. 05-10-2019 06:20:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Either that, or I need to drink the lake first. 05-10-2019 06:21:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: the west lake or the east lake? 05-10-2019 06:22:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: East lake, the small one with fish in it. 05-10-2019 06:22:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: More of a pond, really. 05-10-2019 06:25:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: fish fish fish 05-10-2019 06:46:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Worm blood also does not count. 05-10-2019 06:46:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Hey, Piecewise, how do you take those recordings of Noita? 05-10-2019 09:13:44 -!- parisbre56[Away] is now known as parisbre56 05-10-2019 09:14:04 > parisbre56: Piecewise wrote about it a while back 05-10-2019 09:14:16 > parisbre56: you need to edit some config files, I think 05-10-2019 09:14:28 > parisbre56: because the option is not currently exposed in game 05-10-2019 09:14:44 > parisbre56: but you can enable replay recording 05-10-2019 09:14:50 > parisbre56: so that it records your saw 05-10-2019 09:14:55 > parisbre56: game 05-10-2019 09:15:20 > parisbre56: and then you can select part of your replay to export as a gif 05-10-2019 09:15:29 > parisbre56: https://www.pcgamer.com/noita-has-a-hidden-replay-feature-that-lets-you-export-gifs-of-your-glorious-deaths/ 05-10-2019 09:17:15 -!- parisbre56 is now known as parisbre56[Away] 05-10-2019 09:29:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Yeah, that only lets you record deaths. 05-10-2019 09:30:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh: Unless Dubs has been killing himself to catch gifs, then trimming the deaths off, there's something else. 05-10-2019 09:30:36 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.hzi.lhh has quit [Quit: You hear a distant scream of "FUCK AT&T!"] 05-10-2019 10:01:26 -!- er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 05-10-2019 10:04:26 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mm 05-10-2019 10:15:51 -!- er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 05-10-2019 12:06:13 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: The option is in the menu 05-10-2019 12:06:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: depending on the game version 05-10-2019 12:06:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: more recent versions have it at least 05-10-2019 12:07:00 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: lets you capture gifs with f11 05-10-2019 12:08:15 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://www.gog.com/game/noita 05-10-2019 12:08:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: unrelated DRM free buy link 05-10-2019 12:52:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Here 05-10-2019 12:52:54 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: perfect anime for sy 05-10-2019 12:52:54 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://anilist.co/anime/108478/No-Guns-Life 05-10-2019 12:53:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: an anime in which the main character is a gun 05-10-2019 13:02:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: No wait 05-10-2019 13:02:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://anilist.co/anime/104679/Rifle-Is-Beautiful 05-10-2019 13:02:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: There we go 05-10-2019 13:02:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: perfect sy anime 05-10-2019 13:06:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: another season of madoka coming in 2020 05-10-2019 13:56:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: ..what? 05-10-2019 18:28:32 -!- er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 05-10-2019 18:28:54 < er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: Oh good, exactly what we needed. 05-10-2019 18:35:48 < er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: We should watch it for the amusement of watching something we like get butchered. 05-10-2019 18:42:44 < er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net: I assume we're all into that. We liked PM3 after all. 05-10-2019 19:02:16 -!- er!androirc@vayj-738-322-875-756.sip.ard.bellsouth.net has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05-10-2019 20:15:17 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@fmeacy-063-029-598-89.mycingular.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 05-10-2019 20:16:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@fmeacy-063-029-598-89.mycingular.net: Unless there's been some new announcement which I can't find and which Dubs did, it's only very barely another season of Madoka Magica. 05-10-2019 20:17:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@fmeacy-063-029-598-89.mycingular.net: I assume he means Magia Record, which is coming out 2020, and is an anime adaption of the story in the Magia Record waifu gacha mobile game. 05-10-2019 20:18:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@fmeacy-063-029-598-89.mycingular.net: It's not written by Urobutcher, and from what little I've looked into the plot, sounds like it's going to completely miss what made PM3 good. 05-10-2019 20:18:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@fmeacy-063-029-598-89.mycingular.net: I'm still gonna watch it, of course, but I highly doubt it'll be at all decent. 05-10-2019 20:19:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@fmeacy-063-029-598-89.mycingular.net: Also, I really hope I'm wrong, and Piecewise found a new announcement for an actual legit second season. 05-10-2019 20:19:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@fmeacy-063-029-598-89.mycingular.net: https://i.imgur.com/UyiGuUo.jpg 05-10-2019 20:20:04 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@fmeacy-063-029-598-89.mycingular.net has quit [Quit: You hear a distant scream of "FUCK AT&T!"] 05-10-2019 20:37:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: heya. 05-10-2019 20:37:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: no syv? 05-10-2019 20:59:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: aww. 05-10-2019 20:59:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: heya Piecewise. 05-10-2019 20:59:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: is that really madoka or a spinoff like syv found? 05-10-2019 22:07:05 -!- er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 05-10-2019 22:07:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: heya er. 05-10-2019 22:07:37 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yeah, figured it might be that thing. 05-10-2019 22:07:53 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: syv or someone mentioned it before. 05-10-2019 22:39:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: kaiju-com turn up. 05-10-2019 23:08:33 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I should buy a physical book or two of Unsounded, so that I can tell people that I like it enough to buy the physical book of it. 05-10-2019 23:17:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: You should buy noita you ham 05-10-2019 23:31:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I will, eventually. 05-10-2019 23:31:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: heya PW. 05-10-2019 23:33:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: I like that turn. 05-10-2019 23:41:30 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Nah, next game I buy is gonna be Disco Elysium. 05-10-2019 23:41:53 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Noita is fine at it's current version number. 05-10-2019 23:44:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Mad scientists don't need to worry about dying if they go on the attack. 05-10-2019 23:44:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: Losing the project is fairly likely, but mad scientists always somehow get away. 05-10-2019 23:48:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@myen-1a3yh6md2nvl3g44tctyc0lnz.ipv3.telus.net: ala ron perlman.