18-09-2019 00:14:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: hmm?
18-09-2019 00:14:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hallo!
18-09-2019 00:24:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kQ5-D1MxjI
18-09-2019 00:28:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: well, three beers, there you go.
18-09-2019 00:28:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: replaying this https://www.prequeladventure.com/this/shhsecrets/PrequelPrecede.html
18-09-2019 00:33:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: oop
18-09-2019 00:33:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: time for plan M.
18-09-2019 00:33:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: (k6bd)
18-09-2019 00:34:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ahh yeah, boaty mcboatface.
18-09-2019 00:35:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: now, how to get to the screen where she discusses things she has slept with..  ;-p
18-09-2019 00:37:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dunno
18-09-2019 00:40:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: fish
18-09-2019 00:41:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: fish kissing.
18-09-2019 00:42:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: and youtube.
18-09-2019 00:44:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: good day sophia.
18-09-2019 00:45:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: even if you couldn't get drunk.
18-09-2019 01:21:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: all katia really needs is to become a lich
18-09-2019 01:24:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I don't think that would work.
18-09-2019 01:24:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: her addiction seems to go beyond any imaginable physical or psychological dependance on booze.
18-09-2019 01:25:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so you're saying it's a *metaphysical* dependance
18-09-2019 01:26:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Perhaps.
18-09-2019 01:26:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: it could be supernatural.
18-09-2019 01:26:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: or extraordinary.
18-09-2019 01:38:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: would a wish overcome it?
18-09-2019 01:38:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: probably.
18-09-2019 01:38:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: though it's a tossup between squashing that or the nightmares
18-09-2019 01:38:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: unless someone wished her to be super-alcoholic.
18-09-2019 01:38:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: katia has multiple problems, I guess
18-09-2019 01:40:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: yes.
18-09-2019 01:40:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: a few
18-09-2019 01:41:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: "I wish I was implausably alcoholic" might be a new contender for worse wish.
18-09-2019 01:42:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: worst.
18-09-2019 01:43:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I mean, things could get worse
18-09-2019 01:43:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: yeah.
18-09-2019 01:49:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: she could be happy forever and things will be boring.
18-09-2019 01:50:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I wish I were incapable of suffering!
18-09-2019 01:50:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: things will go horribly, but only from the perspective of people who aren't me!
18-09-2019 01:54:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hm
18-09-2019 01:54:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this image is valuable https://www.prequeladventure.com/this/shhsecrets/quill160-2387897894.gif
18-09-2019 02:24:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I had previously only read the start of Dodger: Break the Law
18-09-2019 02:26:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: dodger's good.
18-09-2019 02:26:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes but. I want to hide from how big an idiot quil is being
18-09-2019 02:28:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Honk honk
18-09-2019 02:30:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: honk
18-09-2019 02:39:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: heya Piecewise.
18-09-2019 02:40:00 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Howdy doodie 
18-09-2019 02:40:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: what's the worst of all possible magical girl wishes?
18-09-2019 02:40:12 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: the worst? 
18-09-2019 02:40:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: For the individual or the world?
18-09-2019 02:40:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: individual, probably.
18-09-2019 02:40:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Hmmm
18-09-2019 02:41:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: The one that blue lady made in madoka is a pretty good one
18-09-2019 02:41:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Ie save someone who doesn't even give a shit about you and then die
18-09-2019 02:41:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: "I wish my wounded best friend was healed?"
18-09-2019 02:42:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Hmmm
18-09-2019 02:42:12 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Oh
18-09-2019 02:42:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Well, it's clearly worse than "I wish I had the power to heal wounds that will never heal."
18-09-2019 02:42:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: In Biscuit hammer one guy wished for a piece of bread to give a girl
18-09-2019 02:42:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: blue's wish checks out, she's just an idiot paladin
18-09-2019 02:43:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: that's pretty bad.
18-09-2019 02:43:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: although we're at wishes with negative value at this point.
18-09-2019 02:43:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Well
18-09-2019 02:43:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: do we want just plain bad?
18-09-2019 02:43:53 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: "I wish I had no lungs"
18-09-2019 02:43:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: heh
18-09-2019 02:44:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: well, quick, at least.
18-09-2019 02:44:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: there are many terrible wishes
18-09-2019 02:44:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: and it might make you a spider.
18-09-2019 02:44:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: "I wish I had a tapeworm"
18-09-2019 02:44:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: "I wish my hands fused to my knees"
18-09-2019 02:44:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: However I think you want something less simple
18-09-2019 02:44:56 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: more philosophical
18-09-2019 02:45:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: sure.
18-09-2019 02:45:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I mean, more points to something philosophically bad.
18-09-2019 02:46:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: "I wish to have an interesting life"
18-09-2019 02:46:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: syv did veto "I wish I was a MLP pony."
18-09-2019 02:46:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Heh, yeah.
18-09-2019 02:47:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: interesting life is fine
18-09-2019 02:47:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times
18-09-2019 02:48:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: these times are interesting ones, and I'd certainly rather live in them than in what came before
18-09-2019 02:49:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Trump?
18-09-2019 02:52:13 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Generally any large scale wish can be distorted
18-09-2019 02:52:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: remove hunger by causing cannibalism 
18-09-2019 02:52:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I wish to be delicious to all creatures
18-09-2019 02:53:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I wish to be loved by everyone!
18-09-2019 02:53:10 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: *Banging on the door*
18-09-2019 02:53:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: someone did that.
18-09-2019 02:53:31 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: *Banging of dicks on the door*
18-09-2019 02:53:45 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: LOOOOOOOOOOOVE
18-09-2019 02:54:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=167676.msg7680719#msg7680719
18-09-2019 02:57:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Hmmm, the best terrible wish would depend on the situation
18-09-2019 02:57:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Do you have anything you desperately want to protect?
18-09-2019 02:57:54 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Whats your motivation?
18-09-2019 02:58:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: yeah.
18-09-2019 02:59:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: "I wish I made everyone happy" would be interesting and terrible.
18-09-2019 03:35:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, that was... decent
18-09-2019 04:13:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: words words words words words
18-09-2019 04:13:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I will get it done tonight, but it's taking time.
18-09-2019 04:13:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: werds
18-09-2019 04:14:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: yeah.
18-09-2019 04:14:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: fortunately there aren't nearly as many mad science buildings as org buildings, but they all take so many words because of restrictions on mad scientists.
18-09-2019 04:18:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Oh god, I just realized.
18-09-2019 04:18:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Since I'm treating biological organisms equivalent to vehicles, you research them first, and then, presumably, murder the test subjects before building them in the 'workshop'
18-09-2019 04:19:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wait, we can't field prototypes?
18-09-2019 04:19:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Sorry, x-com rules there.
18-09-2019 04:19:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: although mad scientists have nothing but prototypes.
18-09-2019 04:20:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: my x-com ruleset, was going to make you first build a prototype, then field test it before finalizing the design
18-09-2019 04:20:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ahh.
18-09-2019 04:21:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: well, in this case you do lab research and can have multiple labs and workshops, so..
18-09-2019 05:02:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: phew, buildings done.
18-09-2019 05:09:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: (took break)
18-09-2019 05:09:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: armoury's a lot easier.
18-09-2019 05:10:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: toot breaker
18-09-2019 05:28:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: okay.
18-09-2019 05:28:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: buildings and armoury up.
18-09-2019 05:29:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: taking another break before T1, but I have some of it done already.
18-09-2019 05:31:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: feel free to throw peanuts at me on here, though.
18-09-2019 05:37:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: aww, no peanuts.
18-09-2019 05:37:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I was hungry..
18-09-2019 05:37:27 < * ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com tosses packing peanuts
18-09-2019 05:37:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: yay, stryofoam!
18-09-2019 05:50:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mm
18-09-2019 05:50:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe an "infantry squad" which counts as small and can be ferried by the heli
18-09-2019 05:50:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, might include that.
18-09-2019 05:51:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I'd drop the rocket launchers and still take the barracks.
18-09-2019 05:51:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: spec ops, precision warfare ;p
18-09-2019 05:51:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Squads are like 4 guys, though.  I need a name for like 12 guys and like 40 guys.
18-09-2019 05:52:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: isn't a squad like 12 guys?
18-09-2019 05:52:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: yeah, come to think of it.
18-09-2019 05:52:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: sure.
18-09-2019 05:52:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I'll add that in.
18-09-2019 05:52:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: same cost, but fits in a heli and has no rocket launchers.
18-09-2019 05:53:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I have no idea how real terminology works, but in PS2 a squad is up to twelve soldiers, maybe split up into different fireteams, and a platoon is up to four squads.
18-09-2019 06:17:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, I aughta take a sleep
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18-09-2019 06:18:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ok
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18-09-2019 06:49:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Squad is ~12, yes, and ~40 would be a platoon.
18-09-2019 06:49:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ok.
18-09-2019 06:49:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: heya syv.
18-09-2019 06:49:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: will get first post done tonight.
18-09-2019 06:49:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: SAM launchers fire surface-to-air missiles, not air-to-air missiles
18-09-2019 06:50:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: dammit.
18-09-2019 06:50:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: also forgot the fighter jet.
18-09-2019 06:50:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: And I question what the value of infantry squads are when they cost the same as (more than...) infantry platoons, while having less souls and worse weapons.
18-09-2019 06:50:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: They're not a good idea.
18-09-2019 06:50:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Other than that, no comments.  Numbers seem to work out from what I see.
18-09-2019 06:50:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Idiot bait.
18-09-2019 06:51:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Why do they not get heavy weapons?
18-09-2019 06:52:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: because it's a stupid idea.
18-09-2019 06:52:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Also, do you require a flying transport to ferry infantry units somewhere?
18-09-2019 06:52:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Out of your base, yes.
18-09-2019 06:52:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: but no, not when you get to a destination.
18-09-2019 06:53:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Right, 'munitions'
18-09-2019 06:53:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: thinking of the term for stuff launched from the fighter.
18-09-2019 06:54:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Is there ever any reason to use helicopter transport over plane transport?  Heli costs 75 & ferries 1 small, plane costs 150 and ferries 2 medium.
18-09-2019 06:54:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Not unless someone goes with a small vehicle attack unit.
18-09-2019 06:56:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Can you not put smalls in a medium space?
18-09-2019 06:56:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: yes you can.
18-09-2019 06:57:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I'd expect someone going with a bioweapon to maybe do that.
18-09-2019 06:57:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: might not need to be huge.
18-09-2019 06:59:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: plus a bioweapon might need a special transport.
18-09-2019 06:59:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: particularly if a mad scientist made it.
18-09-2019 06:59:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: might not be so tame.
18-09-2019 07:00:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Hmm.
18-09-2019 07:02:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: I really don't see why an infantry squad must be so terrible.  If nothing else, if they're the same as a unit, except with *less* equipment and soldiers, they shouldn't cost as much.  Maybe make them spec ops or something?  Or just remove them...?  It seems like a terrible mechanic to make a unit that's never useful, which sounds like it could be useful unless asked about.
18-09-2019 07:02:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ok.
18-09-2019 07:02:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I'll remove it.
18-09-2019 07:02:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ER asked for it to be included.
18-09-2019 07:02:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Heh
18-09-2019 07:02:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Although, you know, you could use the helicopter tactically instead of keeping it safe..  ;-p
18-09-2019 07:03:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: you aren't going to need transport, but if someone were to invent, say, jetpacks it would help.
18-09-2019 07:03:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: It'd literally be better to just build a full infantry unit, then put the best twelve men in it in a helicopter, with their rocket launchers and such.  :P
18-09-2019 07:04:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: eh.
18-09-2019 07:04:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I'll still keep the helicopter.  I know a couple people wanted stuff that would be 'small'
18-09-2019 07:04:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Hell, Alida would be 'small'
18-09-2019 07:04:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: I think it would be a good mechanic to keep, if it were half price, with better accuracy and similar weapons.  So if you design an expensive infantry weapon that matters, it's half price to test with an infantry squad, and will have better accuracy because you're fielding elites.
18-09-2019 07:05:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Keeping helicopters is fine, though I'd make them cost 50.  So at least there's some advantage over using a plane.
18-09-2019 07:05:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: 75 isn't that much.
18-09-2019 07:06:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I might fiddle with numbers later on.
18-09-2019 07:07:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: 3 also isn't that much, but if it's a third as good as something else which costs 6, it should never be bought, and should probably be priced at 2.
18-09-2019 07:08:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: heh.
18-09-2019 07:08:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: it's more like a quarter, really.
18-09-2019 07:08:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: you can put 2 smalls in a med.
18-09-2019 07:09:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I expect people to use it as a bomber.
18-09-2019 07:10:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: half the price of an airtransport and you get to use your bomb early.
18-09-2019 07:14:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Jeez, 500?
18-09-2019 07:14:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: fighter jets be expensive.
18-09-2019 07:14:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: I guess that's fair, but ow.  Will we get funding increases?
18-09-2019 07:14:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, do some successes.
18-09-2019 07:15:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: plus, hell, building your own fighter will probably cost 500, and then each one will be a lot cheapter.
18-09-2019 07:16:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Eh?
18-09-2019 07:16:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: yeah, I'm adding in research and such.
18-09-2019 07:17:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: you'll need to get a large lab and factory.
18-09-2019 07:17:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: hmm, a bit more thne.
18-09-2019 07:17:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Oh, I get it.  This is stuff available to everyone, purchased prefabbed.  Building your own stuff at-cost is cheaper, yes.
18-09-2019 07:18:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Could ER use his intel thinger to steal the designs for fighters or w/e, so he can build things cheaper
18-09-2019 07:18:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: ?
18-09-2019 07:18:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: It's different.
18-09-2019 07:18:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: You'll have to ask ER, he'll get stuff in the turns.
18-09-2019 07:18:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: like the BM guys.
18-09-2019 07:19:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: "If you desire something different from what's listed, please ask for it."
18-09-2019 07:20:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: How much to purchase a specops squad that's small, but much better trained than the infantry platoon?  ;P
18-09-2019 07:20:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: probably four times as much.
18-09-2019 07:20:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Or you could build an x-mat small lab and make them better small arms.
18-09-2019 07:21:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: ¿Porque no los dos?
18-09-2019 07:21:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: How much for a specops platoon?
18-09-2019 07:21:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Probably 200, but I'm not adding anything for turn 1.
18-09-2019 07:22:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Okay.
18-09-2019 07:22:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: in general, I don't want people just buying 'like X but better'
18-09-2019 07:22:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: that's what research is for.
18-09-2019 07:23:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: That actually works really well for me, if I did indeed choose to do infantry spam.  I have 2x medium to start with, and 300 money with a 25% discount... so a medium unit that costs 200 each is precisely my budget.
18-09-2019 07:23:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: I'll probably just do infantry + arty, really, but the siren song of specops does call to me...
18-09-2019 07:24:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: It'd really be way better to just say "infantry are specops, you can't buy better infantry".
18-09-2019 07:24:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: I'd rather you spend 200 on +1 survivability.
18-09-2019 07:24:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: well, 150+upkeep.
18-09-2019 07:24:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Nobody will ask for cheaper crappy infantry anyway, because they're already at the point where transport costs more.
18-09-2019 07:24:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Upkeep comes out of funding, no?
18-09-2019 07:24:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: It's a waste of money.
18-09-2019 07:25:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: What is?
18-09-2019 07:25:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: You pay upkeep at the same time funding comes in.
18-09-2019 07:25:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: 200 for +1 survivability on infantry.
18-09-2019 07:27:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Wouldn't specops get better accuracy or something?
18-09-2019 07:28:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Rather than magically being better protected?
18-09-2019 07:28:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, they would.
18-09-2019 07:28:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: It's not 'better protected', really.
18-09-2019 07:28:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Will we ever get to see direct stats?
18-09-2019 07:28:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: but it's more 'harder to wipe out'
18-09-2019 07:28:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Ah.  That's fair.
18-09-2019 07:36:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Will helicopters be able to pick up and redeploy troops in a time-expedient manner?  Like, during a battle, your small-size unit could load into a heli as the Kaiju approaches, then fly away and redeploy before the battle's done?  While a plane couldn't do the same?
18-09-2019 07:39:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
18-09-2019 07:39:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: You want the small infantry unit back again?
18-09-2019 07:39:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Well that's an enormous advantage.
18-09-2019 07:40:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: do note that doing that makes it vastly more likely for you to lose the helicopter.
18-09-2019 07:41:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Nah, it's still crap without explosives or any discount.
18-09-2019 07:41:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: I mean of course I want specops squads, but at the same price of a specops platoon?  Nah.
18-09-2019 07:41:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Far as I can tell with this armory it's only really relevant for Arty.
18-09-2019 07:42:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: And even then, you're spending more money on the transport than you are on the gun.
18-09-2019 07:42:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Building my own AC-130 might be the best tactic.  +75 and has transport capacity to spare.
18-09-2019 07:44:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Helicopter mobility will matter a lot more later on, when we have more expensive power units.
18-09-2019 07:48:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: aight, got the basic rules down.
18-09-2019 07:48:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: now.. the actual first turn!
18-09-2019 07:48:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: for fucks sake why did I do such an ambitious project?
18-09-2019 07:52:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@pbnsmn-013-074-548-015.mycingular.net: Woo!
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18-09-2019 07:53:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ok.
18-09-2019 07:53:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: good work there.
18-09-2019 07:53:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Big question.
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18-09-2019 07:57:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juugtb-944-405-462-93.mycingular.net: Hello bouncing my old friend
18-09-2019 07:57:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juugtb-944-405-462-93.mycingular.net: (Devastator) for fucks sake why did I do such an ambitious project?
18-09-2019 07:57:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juugtb-944-405-462-93.mycingular.net: (syv) IIRC this evolved from that vs xcom game idea?
18-09-2019 07:57:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juugtb-944-405-462-93.mycingular.net: (syv) Except at some point you swapped ayys for kaijus, and let each player have their own faction rather than just being one team.
18-09-2019 07:58:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ahh.
18-09-2019 07:58:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: there was a x-com pacific rim game a long time ago.
18-09-2019 08:27:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ok, it's up.
18-09-2019 08:27:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: dammit.
18-09-2019 08:28:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juugtb-944-405-462-93.mycingular.net: Dammit?
18-09-2019 08:28:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: it's so short!
18-09-2019 08:28:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: well, you guys haven't done anything.  ;-p
18-09-2019 08:29:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juugtb-944-405-462-93.mycingular.net: I'm sure it'll grow, give it time.  :P
18-09-2019 08:29:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: yeah, it certainly will.
18-09-2019 08:29:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: hopefully be shorter than the huge work on the rules and such.
18-09-2019 08:30:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: well, have fun with it.
18-09-2019 08:56:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: "I think at this point we're going to either see runner A extend the lead, or runner B close in and take over."
18-09-2019 08:58:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juugtb-944-405-462-93.mycingular.net: Both are different from nothing changing.
18-09-2019 08:59:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: Turned out that there was a huge cascade of failures for both of them.
18-09-2019 08:59:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: lead changed back and forth.
18-09-2019 08:59:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ended up in same place.
18-09-2019 09:05:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: "I don't know how but Runner B is somehow in the lead now."
18-09-2019 09:07:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juugtb-944-405-462-93.mycingular.net: Neither is Ryu, yes?
18-09-2019 09:09:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: no.
18-09-2019 09:09:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: different game.
18-09-2019 09:09:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: just amusingly bad commentary.
18-09-2019 09:12:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: the other commetator went AFK for 20+ minutes due to bad internet.
18-09-2019 09:12:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juugtb-944-405-462-93.mycingular.net: Pffff
18-09-2019 09:13:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juugtb-944-405-462-93.mycingular.net: Quality
18-09-2019 09:14:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: yes.
18-09-2019 09:14:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: the runs aren't that tight either.
18-09-2019 09:17:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: pressing a not working out for him.
18-09-2019 09:24:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: http://youtu.be/vXBbH4Nzyhc?t=3093
18-09-2019 09:27:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@aaia-6v8tx6su7vlm034pha7sepiz3.ipv3.telus.net: ahh, the sweet smell of failure.
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18-09-2019 15:47:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Oh dear
18-09-2019 15:48:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: everyone went and looked at it
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18-09-2019 15:50:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: grah ha ha
18-09-2019 16:25:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Devastator
18-09-2019 16:25:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: do intel hubs stack?
18-09-2019 16:36:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/ds4gZ6pwg6U
18-09-2019 16:43:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hey, if labs construct biological things at one size smaller, that means I can use a small lab to make a Fake Hedgehog
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