08-09-2019 00:18:49 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: toothear.
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08-09-2019 00:56:51 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Bomber crew is a pretty fun game
08-09-2019 00:56:56 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: if very stressful at times
08-09-2019 00:57:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I've heard mixed things about it, would you recommend it?
08-09-2019 00:58:10 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I haven't played a whole lot of it, but what I played is pretty good. Be aware of what you're getting into though
08-09-2019 00:58:16 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: it ain't xcom
08-09-2019 00:58:22 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: everything is real time
08-09-2019 00:59:11 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: And a lot of it is out of your hands
08-09-2019 00:59:49 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: you basically activate waypoints and the bomber flies there. You look at attacking fighters till they're marked and then the gunners attack them on their own
08-09-2019 01:00:12 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Its a lot less "Control the crew" and more "Yell at the crew and hope they get shit done"
08-09-2019 01:00:40 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I see, so a bit like Df in that sense.
08-09-2019 01:13:37 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Yeah
08-09-2019 01:13:44 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Man, last mission was pretty bad
08-09-2019 01:13:52 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: got lit up by like a dozen fighters
08-09-2019 01:14:09 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: all made it back ok but we had two people down and on the verge of bleeding out
08-09-2019 01:14:14 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Nice
08-09-2019 01:14:38 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: If you ever do play the game, be careful of that "Bail out"option
08-09-2019 01:14:41 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: they take their time to do it
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08-09-2019 01:19:56 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Good dinosaur https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2019-09-08
08-09-2019 01:27:32 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: feathered dinosaurs
08-09-2019 01:27:43 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: well, yes.
08-09-2019 01:27:47 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: still heresy, but yes.
08-09-2019 01:28:36 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Floof
08-09-2019 01:28:42 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: maybe I should re-read schlock mercenary.
08-09-2019 01:28:51 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: go up to the can full of sky one and stop.
08-09-2019 01:30:44 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Hmm, I should go, see yah gents.
08-09-2019 01:30:50 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: ok.
08-09-2019 01:30:51 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: see ya.
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08-09-2019 04:05:26 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: syvvie?
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08-09-2019 04:17:15 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Yay!
08-09-2019 04:17:21 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: surviving?
08-09-2019 04:17:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Eh.  I suppose so.
08-09-2019 04:17:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Been in a bad place for awhile.
08-09-2019 04:18:08 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: aww.
08-09-2019 04:18:11 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: happens.
08-09-2019 04:19:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: MJ said he finished the DF turn, just has to upload it somewhere.
08-09-2019 04:20:13 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Yes.
08-09-2019 04:20:16 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: talked about it a bit.
08-09-2019 04:20:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: He didn't say anything about what happened, so I'unno if half the fort is dead to werebeasts or what.
08-09-2019 04:20:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh?
08-09-2019 04:20:31 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: sounded ok.
08-09-2019 04:20:43 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: had to make a metal industry because apparently he needed a traction bench, and there were no ropes.
08-09-2019 04:21:26 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: he did figure out to gather plants for food.
08-09-2019 04:22:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heh.
08-09-2019 04:22:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well set up?
08-09-2019 04:22:39 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Don't know, haven't seen it.
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08-09-2019 04:22:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Speak of the devil.
08-09-2019 04:22:46 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: oop
08-09-2019 04:22:50 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heya jaggers.
08-09-2019 04:22:53 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Hiya
08-09-2019 04:23:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: We were just chatting about the DF turn.  You gonna stick around, talk, or just popping by?
08-09-2019 04:23:47 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: I’ll be on for a bit. Just sick and kinda tired.
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08-09-2019 04:24:42 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: mmm.
08-09-2019 04:24:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well, what happened during the turn?
08-09-2019 04:24:54 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: STUFF
08-09-2019 04:24:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev said you needed a traction bench, which is worrying.
08-09-2019 04:25:08 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: But yeah the forts doing well, I got a hopefully non muddy source of water set up, and I made a hospital.
08-09-2019 04:25:19 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Mostly cause I wanted to make a hospital.
08-09-2019 04:25:44 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Oh yeah you were madde expidition leader.
08-09-2019 04:25:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ahh, okay.  That does seem like your kinda priority.
08-09-2019 04:25:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heh.  Goodie~
08-09-2019 04:26:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Did you dwarf yourself?
08-09-2019 04:26:21 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Nah, there weren't anyone with healing skills.
08-09-2019 04:26:30 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: wasn't
08-09-2019 04:26:36 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: ...Yes.
08-09-2019 04:27:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.  That's been an awfully weird thing with this fort.
08-09-2019 04:27:30 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: But yeah, I got a hospital set up, got some metal working set up, was going to start work on making soap but ran out of time.
08-09-2019 04:27:49 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I think the well should be non muddy.
08-09-2019 04:27:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Startinv seven had NOBODY with positive empathy, and none of the migrants have been doctors.
08-09-2019 04:28:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Okay, cool.
08-09-2019 04:28:10 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Oh and I diversified our food supply
08-09-2019 04:28:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh?
08-09-2019 04:29:18 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yeah, set up an outdoor farm plot for straw berries and made a small plot for dimple cups and pig tails
08-09-2019 04:29:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ahh.
08-09-2019 04:29:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Mostly for clothes and string for the hospital.
08-09-2019 04:30:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I guess Dev will end up being hit by the first werebeasts, I was hoping it'd be you.  Ah well.
08-09-2019 04:31:10 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: I’m quite proud of the hospital. It actually looks semi decent and it’s on the same level as the well.
08-09-2019 04:31:23 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Which is up high.
08-09-2019 04:31:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Cool.
08-09-2019 04:31:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: What'd you do with the well?  Just set up a bucket brigade, or do some fancy digging?
08-09-2019 04:32:09 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Fancy digging.
08-09-2019 04:32:17 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Well not fancy. Just some digging.
08-09-2019 04:34:04 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Soap industry isn’t set up but the bones are there.
08-09-2019 04:35:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Do we have any other decent livestock aside from the two cows and dog pack?
08-09-2019 04:36:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'd assume not, but maybe migrants brought ina breeding pair of pigs or something.
08-09-2019 04:36:21 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: I think they did actually. There’s a breeding pair of something at least
08-09-2019 04:36:32 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: And it’s not a cow.
08-09-2019 04:36:44 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: fuck werebeasts.
08-09-2019 04:37:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: You turning furry on us?
08-09-2019 04:37:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Fucking werewolves seems like a furry idea~
08-09-2019 04:37:48 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heh.
08-09-2019 04:38:05 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I thought the whole 'playing a giant fluffy wolf' thing would mean more for that.
08-09-2019 04:38:09 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Oh yeah. I also couldn’t find any other ores outside of Galena and casseritte.
08-09-2019 04:38:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: That sucks.
08-09-2019 04:38:21 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Granted I didn’t look very hard but still
08-09-2019 04:38:47 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heh.
08-09-2019 04:38:58 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: it was Galena and Zinc, sorry MJ.
08-09-2019 04:39:24 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Tin's a lot better than Zinc.
08-09-2019 04:39:48 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Ah
08-09-2019 04:39:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes.
08-09-2019 04:40:12 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Yes, so if we can any copper we can make a shit ton of bronze and some really nice silver warhammers.
08-09-2019 04:40:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Need copper ore, bronze isn't bad at all.
08-09-2019 04:40:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev said silver hammers suck now, due to... some change.
08-09-2019 04:40:37 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Yeah.
08-09-2019 04:40:41 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: They're not great.
08-09-2019 04:40:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I haven't tested that, I might open up the arena just to verify.
08-09-2019 04:40:55 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Huh. I guess that does make more sense but alright.
08-09-2019 04:42:03 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: time to make lead wheelbarrows.
08-09-2019 04:42:08 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: and barrels.
08-09-2019 04:44:25 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: hmm, apparently you can use zinc to make anything as per any metal, so it's just as useful as tin, except for the alloys.
08-09-2019 04:44:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Lead minecarts, instead of arming soldiers we'll just bludgeon the goblins to death with TECHNOLOGY.
08-09-2019 04:45:03 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: except tin glaze.
08-09-2019 04:45:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Isn't the primary use of tin alloys, if we don't have iron?
08-09-2019 04:45:35 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Yes
08-09-2019 04:45:46 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yes.
08-09-2019 04:47:31 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: all of which require copper.
08-09-2019 04:48:25 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: Yeah I really hope there’s copper somewhere.
08-09-2019 04:49:31 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: maybe.
08-09-2019 04:49:38 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: might have to order metals through the caravan.
08-09-2019 04:50:00 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: technically you can just get one piece and use re-melting to get infinite.
08-09-2019 04:50:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm pretty sure I did order iron and steel, but the orders are... less than reliable.
08-09-2019 04:50:26 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@959.sub-388-432-9.myvzw.com: I don’t think that exploit works any more
08-09-2019 04:50:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Meh, that's cheating.
08-09-2019 04:50:31 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Still works.
08-09-2019 04:50:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Might as well mod a reaction to spit out infinite metal.
08-09-2019 04:51:08 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I've never used it on a large scale, but I have used it for making one more bar of something.
08-09-2019 04:51:14 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: basically just seeing if it does work.
08-09-2019 04:52:01 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: also screwed myself by buying six steel anvils in my last fort for steel bars, not realizing you only get one bar per anvil.
08-09-2019 04:52:14 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: oh yeah I made some bone armor as well
08-09-2019 04:52:30 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: you can do that?
08-09-2019 04:52:44 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Yeah like bone helm, bone greaves, that kinda thing
08-09-2019 04:52:48 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: ahh.
08-09-2019 04:52:54 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: no chest plate or anything like that
08-09-2019 04:53:32 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: but like the only exploit I've ever used really was the shaft of enlightenment because the mental image was hilarious
08-09-2019 04:53:47 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: don't know that one.
08-09-2019 04:54:01 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Also, keep getting offered items made of divine metal on caravans.  I should buy some one day.
08-09-2019 04:54:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm pretty sure the shaft of enlightenment has been fixed.
08-09-2019 04:54:43 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: It was an old one, essentially if the dwarf fell on a spike trap and survived they became legendary in a weapon skill they at least had novice in.
08-09-2019 04:54:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: it has been
08-09-2019 04:55:04 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heh, never heard of that.
08-09-2019 04:55:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, and it wasn't just legendary, it was something crazy like legendary + 30 or so
08-09-2019 04:55:18 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I have used a danger room before, but never on a large scale.
08-09-2019 04:55:20 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: yeah it was nuts.
08-09-2019 04:55:25 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: wow.
08-09-2019 04:56:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The original discovery was when a guy dropped a regular goblin prisoner on a spike, which crippled one leg... and then the crippled goblin crawled out of the kill chamber and singlehandedly started fighting the entire dwarven army, and winning.  Despite the dwarves being well-trained, well-armored, and healthy.
08-09-2019 04:57:01 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: hah.
08-09-2019 04:57:13 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: There was an old pagan belief about that sort of thing, IIRC.
08-09-2019 04:57:25 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: yeah, I'm trying to find the original post of that
08-09-2019 04:57:33 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: If you tried to kill a prisoner by making a sacrifice to the gods, you would do so by throwing the prisoner onto a spike.
08-09-2019 04:57:50 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: If you screwed up and missed the spike, the prisoner was considered special to the gods.
08-09-2019 04:58:09 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: found it. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=134512.0
08-09-2019 04:58:19 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I see someone figured out planepacked.
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08-09-2019 04:59:12 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: planepacked?
08-09-2019 04:59:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It was the artifact statue with several hundred decorations on it.
08-09-2019 04:59:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Including many perfect depictions of itself.
08-09-2019 05:01:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: IIRC it was caused by a bug with burrows and stockpiles, if you set things up right then the dwarf would never actually mark a specific resource as having been gathered, no matter how many instances of that resource they grab, until you messed with the stockpiles in some specific way.  And then they'd use each and every resource they grabbed to add a decoration of some kind.
08-09-2019 05:01:17 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hmm. this does sound framiliar
08-09-2019 05:02:59 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: damn, appernelly shaft of enlightment could do legendary +70
08-09-2019 05:04:44 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yow.
08-09-2019 05:04:54 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I do like how the wall is a character in DF.
08-09-2019 05:05:01 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: you can have AS MANY SHIELDS as you like.
08-09-2019 05:05:32 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: That is such a funny glitch in adventure mode
08-09-2019 05:05:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: So, testing in the arena, teams of dwarves with iron warhammers consistently beat those with silver warhammers.  But... only barely, armored or not.
08-09-2019 05:06:24 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yeah, it's not a big difference.
08-09-2019 05:10:34 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: "No, there is no spear-glitch that makes people badasses, unfortunately."
08-09-2019 05:10:37 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Whoops.
08-09-2019 05:10:59 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Also I still find it weird that woodburning is under farming and not metal smithing or anything else.
08-09-2019 05:12:06 < * Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net shrugs.
08-09-2019 05:12:07 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: and yeah.
08-09-2019 05:13:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's handling plants, so I guess that qualifies as a farmer's job.
08-09-2019 05:13:34 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I suppose.
08-09-2019 05:13:45 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: carpentry?  Farming!
08-09-2019 05:13:46 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: ;-p
08-09-2019 05:13:54 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Potash fertilizer, maybe.
08-09-2019 05:14:05 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: but I can tell you charcoal has existed back as far as I can remember.
08-09-2019 05:18:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I suppose you weren't around during prehistoric times, yeah.  ;P
08-09-2019 05:19:32 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Of course.
08-09-2019 05:19:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Though if I'm being literal, I guess charcoal has technically existed about as long as wood's been around to catch fire.
08-09-2019 05:19:44 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: before humans, yes.
08-09-2019 05:22:41 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: someone documented a legendary+147 skill gain, so..
08-09-2019 05:22:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: So this isn't really surprising, but silver warhammers quite handily beat bladed steel weapons when both groups are armored.
08-09-2019 05:23:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: So... I don't think we really need to worry about not having high quality weapon metal.  Dwarves already get enough advantages due to high skill.
08-09-2019 05:24:02 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Armor might be a problem though
08-09-2019 05:24:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: True.  Reaaally hope for copper.
08-09-2019 05:24:20 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yeah, if you're wearing hard metal-grade armour you want blunt weapons anyway.
08-09-2019 05:24:30 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: although steel still beats copper armour, IIRC.
08-09-2019 05:24:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Iron doesn't beat bronze armor, and that's the match we have to worry about.
08-09-2019 05:25:16 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Well Iron definetlly beats bone and cloth
08-09-2019 05:26:03 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I wonder if silver warhammers are inteonally good, or if Toady has just never fixed them
08-09-2019 05:26:35 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I think they're reasonable weapons that nobody makes in reality because silver is much more common in DF than real life.
08-09-2019 05:26:48 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I think it just works and nobody cares.
08-09-2019 05:27:55 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: probs
08-09-2019 05:28:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Pretty sure it also has to do with silver being substantially softer and weaker than iron/steel.
08-09-2019 05:28:51 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yup.
08-09-2019 05:28:51 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: that too
08-09-2019 05:29:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Was weapons having infinite durability changed?
08-09-2019 05:29:16 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: they could alloy it a little to keep that from happening.
08-09-2019 05:29:23 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Dunno.
08-09-2019 05:29:56 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I think it was changed.
08-09-2019 05:30:51 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: non-clothing durability was mostly meaningless, even when things didn't have infinite durability.
08-09-2019 05:31:04 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: does armour wear out these days in reasonable amounts of time?
08-09-2019 05:31:10 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: No idea
08-09-2019 05:31:19 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Oh, except for the invulnerable artifact door thing.
08-09-2019 05:31:23 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: That was fun.
08-09-2019 05:31:30 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I got one of those once!
08-09-2019 05:31:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Nice
08-09-2019 05:31:42 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: It got set on fire, which was less good.
08-09-2019 05:31:50 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hahaha
08-09-2019 05:32:00 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Yeah.
08-09-2019 05:32:08 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: fire man or something.
08-09-2019 05:32:13 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: or magma man or whatever.
08-09-2019 05:32:17 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: the ones that throw fire.
08-09-2019 05:32:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: A lot of these dwarves have damaged armor, so armor actually does wear out.
08-09-2019 05:32:27 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: huh
08-09-2019 05:32:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Though most of them are also very dead, and at most seem to have XdamagedX armor.
08-09-2019 05:33:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: So... it's probably not a huge worry within a single dwarf's use of the armor.
08-09-2019 05:33:24 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: That's new.
08-09-2019 05:34:02 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I suppose I could take the next turn, if it can wait until I get home.
08-09-2019 05:34:26 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: This was your gradnfathers armor, you can still see the dent where it almost stopped that goblin warhammer
08-09-2019 05:34:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I don't see why it can't.
08-09-2019 05:34:33 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: ok.
08-09-2019 05:34:42 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I know I'll get a damn werebeast now.
08-09-2019 05:35:09 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Cool, that'll give me time to actually upload the thing
08-09-2019 05:36:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: So, spawned one dwarf in full addy, grandmaster in all skills, and a silver warhammer, and a pile of 100 untrained cavy boars without equipment, to test if his hammer would degrade.
08-09-2019 05:36:19 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: did he get stomped?
08-09-2019 05:36:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The cavies swarmed the dwarf and killed him in seconds.  I think he got like ten of them before succumbing.
08-09-2019 05:36:37 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hahahaahaha
08-09-2019 05:36:49 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: thought so.
08-09-2019 05:37:13 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I'm dying right now
08-09-2019 05:37:20 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Thats hilarious
08-09-2019 05:37:21 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: you want guys with no blunt weapons, so make him fight 100 goblin thieves with daggers.
08-09-2019 05:37:44 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: or things that can't really attack.
08-09-2019 05:37:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: https://townsquare.media/site/443/files/2015/07/Mans-Life-1956-09-Sept-Cover-by-Wil-Hulsey.-8x6-492x630.jpg
08-09-2019 05:38:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: They're still fucking guinea pigs
08-09-2019 05:38:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: They SHOULDN'T be able to attack
08-09-2019 05:38:37 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: it's DF.
08-09-2019 05:38:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I know...
08-09-2019 05:38:59 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: or elves with wooden swords.
08-09-2019 05:40:28 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: to be fair I guess a guine pig isn't that small copmared to a dwarf
08-09-2019 05:40:50 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: hmm.
08-09-2019 05:40:59 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: are cavies the smallest things that take up a space?
08-09-2019 05:41:18 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: seems likely.
08-09-2019 05:41:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: There's prolly smaller.
08-09-2019 05:42:05 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: can you give him a steel titan that's just a ball?
08-09-2019 05:42:13 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: to pointlessly beat on?
08-09-2019 05:42:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Cavies make excellent live-bait in place of cats if you want your bait to survive. They are quite agile and because of their small size, larger creatures such as forgotten beasts have trouble landing a proper attack on them, with many attacks simply glancing off."
08-09-2019 05:42:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Maybe that's why they did so well.
08-09-2019 05:43:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'll spawn cats next time.
08-09-2019 05:43:15 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: meow.
08-09-2019 05:45:19 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: syv were there any fish in the caves?
08-09-2019 05:45:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I don't think I ever gave a fisherdwarf a chance to fish.
08-09-2019 05:45:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I didn't notice any but I didn't pay it much attention
08-09-2019 05:46:58 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: aww.
08-09-2019 05:47:02 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: fish are good.
08-09-2019 05:47:16 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I was busy making agricutlure dev~
08-09-2019 05:47:19 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: always impressed at how a single-line fisherdwarf can catch like three fish simultaneously.
08-09-2019 05:48:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I kinda want to play an old version of DF. like .23 just to see how much it's changed. Like not having a Z level, or anything like that~
08-09-2019 05:49:06 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: It's very different.
08-09-2019 05:49:25 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I thought of something recently that I thin would surprise you, but I'll keep that to myself.
08-09-2019 05:49:35 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: should check out the version that was around when I signed up.
08-09-2019 05:50:52 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: The first one I played was .34 I belive.
08-09-2019 05:51:07 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: .21.105.21a, released on my signup date.
08-09-2019 05:51:50 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I've played it from a couple weeks before that day, but I can't say exactly when.
08-09-2019 05:51:59 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: not long though.
08-09-2019 05:52:29 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: maybe 104.21a
08-09-2019 05:53:19 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: hmm, that is one thing I wish current DF did, the mud never dries out or anything like that so your don't ever need to do anything to the farm plots.
08-09-2019 05:53:33 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Heh.
08-09-2019 05:53:35 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Farm plots.
08-09-2019 05:53:36 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: have fun.
08-09-2019 05:53:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Taking bets now: One bronze colossus with grandmaster in all skills, and full addy equipment aside from a silver warhammer?  Or five hundred unequipped cat recruits?
08-09-2019 05:54:41 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: My moneys on the cats
08-09-2019 05:54:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: As to playing an old version, a part of me is slightly tempted to play the last 2d version blind, and run a community fort of it.
08-09-2019 05:54:57 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heh.
08-09-2019 05:55:12 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I could stream .21.104.21a after coming home.
08-09-2019 05:56:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Cat 102 looks surprised by the ferocity of Bronze Colossus 1's onslaught!  Bronze Colossus 1 collides with Cat 102!  Cat 102 is knocked over!" [Ten cats miss attacks on the BC] "Cat 102 has bled to death."
08-09-2019 05:56:52 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: aww
08-09-2019 05:57:31 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: awww
08-09-2019 05:58:28 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: kitteh.
08-09-2019 05:58:52 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: have any cats landed hits yet?
08-09-2019 05:59:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I did see one message about the BC breaking the grip of a cat's teeth on its neck, so that implies a hit.
08-09-2019 05:59:59 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: mmm.
08-09-2019 06:00:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: BC has no wounds though.
08-09-2019 06:00:22 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: it won't.  They could win through cumulative damage theoretically.
08-09-2019 06:00:28 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I can never tell if BC's are OP or UP. Always a a tricky thing~
08-09-2019 06:00:32 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I think the BC will probably win.
08-09-2019 06:00:43 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: but unpredictable.
08-09-2019 06:00:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: OP.  OP, OP, OP.
08-09-2019 06:00:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Have you never fought one?
08-09-2019 06:01:02 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I've killed them in fort mode a few times.
08-09-2019 06:01:06 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I alwyas got titans.
08-09-2019 06:01:30 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: they generally have issues landing hits.
08-09-2019 06:01:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: This one sure doesn't.
08-09-2019 06:02:10 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yeah, grandmaster and armed.
08-09-2019 06:02:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: There's literally pages and pages of "Cat ### misses Bronze Colossus" occasionally interrupted with a single line about the BC hitting a cat, and the body part exploding.
08-09-2019 06:02:54 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I imagine a candy sword is just like a dagger to him
08-09-2019 06:03:17 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yeah.
08-09-2019 06:03:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: https://dwarffortresswiki.org/images/e/e0/Bronze_Colossus.png
08-09-2019 06:03:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: More like a splinter.
08-09-2019 06:03:47 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yeah.
08-09-2019 06:03:49 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: shorter than a finger.
08-09-2019 06:04:05 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I'm alwyas curious how the Dwarves kill on of those things
08-09-2019 06:04:07 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: if he dodges into a fall it'll kill him.
08-09-2019 06:04:17 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: they either cut at it with steel or bash it until it falls apart.
08-09-2019 06:04:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Over half the cats are dead, and still no visible wounds.
08-09-2019 06:04:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: There's no available fall here, it's the center ring in the arena.
08-09-2019 06:05:12 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: they won't do any visible wounds, even if they were scoring hits.
08-09-2019 06:05:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It is done, no visible damage.
08-09-2019 06:05:31 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: it'd be cumulative damage, upon which things just die.
08-09-2019 06:05:38 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: BC conquered?
08-09-2019 06:05:54 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: no damage to the hammer?
08-09-2019 06:05:57 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I guess not then.
08-09-2019 06:05:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The warhammer has no visible damage, and is credited with three-hundred fifty-one kills
08-09-2019 06:06:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: And yeah, BC wins.
08-09-2019 06:06:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'll try steel-armored cats next.
08-09-2019 06:06:19 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heh.
08-09-2019 06:06:24 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: You can do that now in DF, right?
08-09-2019 06:06:27 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I'm not sure the kats had any resitance though you konw
08-09-2019 06:06:28 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: ?
08-09-2019 06:06:31 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: make stuff for odd species?
08-09-2019 06:06:48 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: give him a copper dagger instead of a hammer.
08-09-2019 06:06:49 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: I think so
08-09-2019 06:07:56 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: Alrigth well I'm going to bed. Night gents
08-09-2019 06:08:13 -!- MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz has left #einsteinianroulette
08-09-2019 06:09:01 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: gnight.
08-09-2019 06:09:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: You can give all creatures armor in the arena, but I don't think weapons can be wielded if they have no [GRASP] tags.  Cats wear four boots, but only one set of greaves.
08-09-2019 06:10:16 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heh.
08-09-2019 06:10:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Steel armor does not seem to offer a cat much protection from a bronze colossus wielding a silver hammer.
08-09-2019 06:10:23 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I think greaves are only lower body.
08-09-2019 06:10:35 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I don't think it'd provide much protection to a dwarf.
08-09-2019 06:11:02 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: worldgen draconic armour goes a long way back.
08-09-2019 06:11:05 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: before arena mode.
08-09-2019 06:11:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Still no damage to the hammer, and it gained fifty four kills, so I think it's safe to say that weapons don't degrade.
08-09-2019 06:11:36 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yeah, seems reasonable.
08-09-2019 06:11:44 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Can you set a wooden one on fire and see if that breaks it?
08-09-2019 06:12:47 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: it should, but that differentiates between weapons have infinite HP and combat doesn't degrade weapons.
08-09-2019 06:12:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, in a min.
08-09-2019 06:13:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Now testing a hundred grandmaster armored cats versus the BC.
08-09-2019 06:13:27 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heh.
08-09-2019 06:13:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Mmmnope, skill doesn't help here.
08-09-2019 06:13:41 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: next, grandmaster armoured tigers.
08-09-2019 06:15:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Tigers survive much longer.
08-09-2019 06:16:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: One hundred armored grandmaster tigers, BC wins, no visible damage.
08-09-2019 06:16:38 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: hmm.
08-09-2019 06:16:42 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: giant cheetas, then.
08-09-2019 06:16:46 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: if we're sticking with felines.
08-09-2019 06:17:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Already spawned in giant tigers.
08-09-2019 06:18:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Okay, uh, still no damage.  All giant tigers dead.
08-09-2019 06:18:46 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heh.
08-09-2019 06:18:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Some of the reports mentioned steel armor breaking *before* the giant tigers died though.
08-09-2019 06:19:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'll fill the arena with water and start spawning hostile armored grandmaster whales.
08-09-2019 06:20:22 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: giant walruses
08-09-2019 06:26:11 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: alternatively, remove the armour from the BC.
08-09-2019 06:26:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: BC climbed out of the arena, now I'm trying to tet him out of the moat and back insidel
08-09-2019 06:27:04 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Hah.
08-09-2019 06:27:20 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I don't think BCs can drown.
08-09-2019 06:27:23 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: FILL IT ALL
08-09-2019 06:32:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: They definitely can't.
08-09-2019 06:32:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: He's underwater and wrecking this army of sperm whales.
08-09-2019 06:32:56 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heh
08-09-2019 06:33:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, hell!
08-09-2019 06:33:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: They wounded him!
08-09-2019 06:33:32 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: damn.
08-09-2019 06:35:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Right eye is mangled beyond recognition.  Left eye is mangled beyond recognition.  Second finger right hand dented.  Right ear dented.  Left lower leg mangled beyond recognition.  Left foot mangled.  Right lower arm mangled.  Right hand mangled.  Left hand dented.  Third fingrr, right hand dented.  Left lower arm dented.
08-09-2019 06:35:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Left ear gone. Thumb, right hand, gone.  First finger, right hand gone.  First toe, left foot, gone.  Fifth toe, left foot, gone.
08-09-2019 06:37:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Army of one hundred giant sperm whales finally put him down.
08-09-2019 06:37:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The kill was scored by giant sperm whale 53, who bit his head apart.
08-09-2019 06:38:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Notably, practically every hit was *still* causing parts of the whales to explode into gore.
08-09-2019 06:38:10 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: how many died?
08-09-2019 06:38:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: None, so far.  Waiting to see if any succumb to--ohp, there, one died.
08-09-2019 06:38:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Drowned.
08-09-2019 06:39:19 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: lung damage.
08-09-2019 06:40:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.
08-09-2019 06:42:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: There we go, found the body.
08-09-2019 06:42:39 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: so what wins, an armoured giant lion or an unarmed giant?
08-09-2019 06:42:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...It's a statue of the bronze colossus.
08-09-2019 06:42:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: What?
08-09-2019 06:43:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I thought BC statues were just random sculptures of something.  Not... sculptures of themselves.
08-09-2019 06:43:54 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Huh.
08-09-2019 06:43:58 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: guess that was changed.
08-09-2019 06:44:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: His hammer is credited with five hundred eighty kills; four hundred ninety one cats, thirty eight tigers, forty seven giant tigers, and seventeen sperm whales.
08-09-2019 06:44:49 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: that's not one.
08-09-2019 06:44:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: *Five hundred eighty three kills
08-09-2019 06:45:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It doesn't count kills made by wounding, which later cause the victim to bleed to death or suffocate.
08-09-2019 06:46:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: His shield is credited with thirty-two kills.  Thirty cats, two giant tigers.
08-09-2019 06:46:17 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: just kills by breaking things apart.
08-09-2019 06:46:32 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: did it get worn?
08-09-2019 06:46:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Neither have any wear at all.
08-09-2019 06:47:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I can onl find two articles of his armor, both addy chain shirts.  Neither has any wear.  Maybe the rest did get destroyed?
08-09-2019 06:48:12 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: mmm, was wondering that.
08-09-2019 06:48:28 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I think they found out that plate barely helps against blunt weapons.
08-09-2019 06:48:33 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: you really do want chain under it.
08-09-2019 06:49:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: They actually were all wearing two chain shirts.
08-09-2019 06:49:55 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yow.
08-09-2019 06:50:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: But no chain leggings, because those don't stack with greaves?
08-09-2019 06:50:04 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: grandmaster included armour user, right?
08-09-2019 06:50:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes.
08-09-2019 06:50:10 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: no, those stack with greaves fine.
08-09-2019 06:50:24 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: they didn't a while ago.
08-09-2019 06:51:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Mmnope.
08-09-2019 06:51:27 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: they don't now?
08-09-2019 06:51:29 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: oh, ok.
08-09-2019 06:51:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Spawning something with both chain leggings and greaves in inventory causes them to wear the chain and drop the greaves.
08-09-2019 06:51:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I think that used to be different, yeah.
08-09-2019 06:52:10 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I guess not, then.
08-09-2019 06:52:15 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I think they used to not stack.
08-09-2019 06:52:27 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: if they still don't stack, they don't stack.
08-09-2019 06:54:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Breathing dragonfire over wooden weapons does catch them on fire, and they burn up very quickly.
08-09-2019 06:55:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I dropped some cavies with wooden hammers in the path of the forestfire the dragon started, and their hammers caught fire from the environemental fires as well.  They do degrade.
08-09-2019 06:56:12 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: ok.
08-09-2019 06:56:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oddly, only some of them caught.
08-09-2019 06:56:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, in the arena, wooden weapons are made out of... wagon wood.
08-09-2019 06:56:42 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: maybe the others didn't heat up in time.
08-09-2019 06:56:45 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Ahh, wagon wood.
08-09-2019 06:56:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Which makes an odd kind of sense.
08-09-2019 06:56:58 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Can someone wear greaves and chausses?
08-09-2019 06:57:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: A Cavy sure can.
08-09-2019 06:57:44 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: ok.
08-09-2019 06:57:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's can't be metal unless it's addy, though.
08-09-2019 06:57:51 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: chainmail shirt, greaves, and chausses?
08-09-2019 06:57:59 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: yeah, they're cloth.
08-09-2019 06:58:04 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: just wondering.
08-09-2019 06:58:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: 2x mail shirt, and a breastplate, work fine eith the chauss + greaves combo
08-09-2019 06:59:47 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: ok.
08-09-2019 07:00:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Cats apparently do not take falls well in DF.
08-09-2019 07:00:26 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Nobody does.
08-09-2019 07:00:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Makes sense, I suppose, with how DF calculates fall damage.
08-09-2019 07:00:35 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: what's the floor made out of in the arena?
08-09-2019 07:00:53 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Also, recruit dwarves really shouldn't be loaded up with max armour.
08-09-2019 07:00:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Rock block" in this case.
08-09-2019 07:00:58 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: they move so slowly they basically can't train.
08-09-2019 07:01:04 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: hmm.
08-09-2019 07:01:13 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: floor depends on mass of the material.
08-09-2019 07:01:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Red sand is a lot less damaging, of course.
08-09-2019 07:01:28 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: can cats swim?
08-09-2019 07:02:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: These ones are fine in 7/7
08-09-2019 07:03:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Jeez, one was just brutally murdered by a random stray max-stat cavy I'd dropped in the water earlier.
08-09-2019 07:04:10 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: weak kitten.  ;-p
08-09-2019 07:04:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I dropped a dwarf in with it, he drowned, though the Cavy was tearing him apart the whole time.
08-09-2019 07:04:41 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: dwarves aren't good at water.
08-09-2019 07:06:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Grandmaster cat wipes the floor with an untrained dwarf, both being entirely nude and unarmed.
08-09-2019 07:06:38 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: how about both untrained?
08-09-2019 07:08:52 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Hmm.
08-09-2019 07:09:04 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Can a dwarf wear five mail shirts if no breastplate is present?
08-09-2019 07:09:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Uh.
08-09-2019 07:09:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The cat still won.
08-09-2019 07:09:18 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Heh.
08-09-2019 07:09:23 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: take a while?
08-09-2019 07:09:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Longer than the elite cat.
08-09-2019 07:09:58 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: what if the dwarf has leather armour?
08-09-2019 07:10:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Naked elite cat is still "fighting" his second foe, a peasant with full addy and a shortsword.
08-09-2019 07:10:16 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: heh.
08-09-2019 07:10:22 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff.
08-09-2019 07:10:28 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: until cat bites out his neck.
08-09-2019 07:10:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Those two seem to have stalemated, both fell unconscious from exhaustion, though the cat suffered some red wounds.
08-09-2019 07:10:37 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: ahh.
08-09-2019 07:10:42 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: peasant will win then.
08-09-2019 07:12:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dwarf in full leather beat the cat handily, though not without sustaining yellow wounds across his entire body.
08-09-2019 07:12:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: He went into a rage though, so that may have helped.
08-09-2019 07:12:43 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: mmm.
08-09-2019 07:12:54 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I wasn't thinking full leather, I was thinking naked except for leather armour.
08-09-2019 07:13:02 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: Limul No-Pants.
08-09-2019 07:13:47 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: also, yellow wounds across entire body is very dangerous.
08-09-2019 07:13:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Still worked out for the dwarf.  Actually went better this time.
08-09-2019 07:14:07 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: mmm.
08-09-2019 07:15:15 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: No platemail shoulder.
08-09-2019 07:15:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Huh.  Dwarves with *just* one piece of leather armor reliably kill cats with only a few yellow wounds at worst.
08-09-2019 07:17:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The one match where the cat won may have been a fluke, haven't replicated it.
08-09-2019 07:17:25 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: named cat.
08-09-2019 07:17:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: He probably got in a lucky disabling hit, and that snowballed into winning the fight.
08-09-2019 07:18:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: A yellow wound to the eye would probably change a fight pretty massively.
08-09-2019 07:18:59 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: pushed through the skull and into the brain!
08-09-2019 07:19:46 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I guess that cat was just awesome.
08-09-2019 07:21:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Man, now I'm actually kind impressed that the BC managed to kill even one giant sperm whale.
08-09-2019 07:21:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: https://dwarffortresswiki.org/images/1/1c/Giant_Sperm_Whale_Size_Comparison.png
08-09-2019 07:22:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: They were all as skilled as him, had full armor, and outnumbered him *massively*.
08-09-2019 07:23:59 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: big mofos.
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08-09-2019 07:53:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Hey, ER, I just spotted you in the user list!  Are you being a Dev and leaving your computer on?
08-09-2019 07:54:34 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: presumably.
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08-09-2019 09:08:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Hello?
08-09-2019 09:08:15 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: I think he's on autorejoin.
08-09-2019 09:08:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.
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08-09-2019 10:10:43 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Tactihell update frequency: :(
08-09-2019 10:10:43 -!- Topic set by syv [Saturday 31 August 2019, 04:44:24]
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08-09-2019 10:23:59 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Good morning.
08-09-2019 10:27:00 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: That is indeed what I was doing an hour ago, but now I'm awake! Hey syv.
08-09-2019 10:27:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hello, ER.
08-09-2019 10:28:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: You're completely uninterested in the succession fort, right?
08-09-2019 10:29:11 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yeah
08-09-2019 10:29:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh well.
08-09-2019 10:41:40 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Who knew, the bus starts running an hour late on sunday.
08-09-2019 10:41:53 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: *screaming*
08-09-2019 10:45:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Do you work today?  :(
08-09-2019 10:46:24 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yes.
08-09-2019 10:47:00 < er!androirc@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Oh well, I'll still get there, but that makes things complicate
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08-09-2019 11:32:27 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Honk
08-09-2019 11:32:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hello, Skello.
08-09-2019 11:33:00 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: hows it going sy
08-09-2019 11:33:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm gonna be leaving awfully soon.  You want anything?
08-09-2019 11:33:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm tired.
08-09-2019 11:33:13 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Nah, feel free to sleep
08-09-2019 11:33:21 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I'm just hanging out
08-09-2019 11:33:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Mm.  Coolio.
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08-09-2019 15:14:09 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: HEY DEV
08-09-2019 15:14:19 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: WHEN YOU GET HERE, TELL ME WHAT YOU WANNA DO IN CABAL
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08-09-2019 17:01:22 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: good morning
08-09-2019 17:58:05 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Hey devastator
08-09-2019 17:58:13 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: PM me your action in cabal
08-09-2019 17:58:21 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I kinda lost it in the pms
08-09-2019 18:00:45 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: ok.
08-09-2019 18:20:34 < Devastator!Mibbit@f268-728-14-94.bchsia.telus.net: don't have orders from syv, but chatted with him last night and he seems to be in agreement.
08-09-2019 21:41:35 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I mean
08-09-2019 21:41:38 < PW!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: he didn't even post so
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08-09-2019 23:15:10 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.hvh.npz: lo
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