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09-08-2019 01:29:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hia
09-08-2019 01:44:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: phew
09-08-2019 01:44:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: hot
09-08-2019 01:49:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hawt
09-08-2019 01:50:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: Just.. ugh, busy at work.
09-08-2019 01:55:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ugh indeed
09-08-2019 04:17:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: ..sorry.
09-08-2019 04:20:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yay cyberpunk
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09-08-2019 04:32:45 -!- parisbre56[Away] is now known as parisbre56
09-08-2019 04:32:57 > parisbre56: yay Keanu Reeves
09-08-2019 04:33:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://store.steampowered.com/app/269650/
09-08-2019 04:33:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: playing that
09-08-2019 04:33:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it is reasonably entertaining
09-08-2019 04:35:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Okay.
09-08-2019 04:35:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Keanu?
09-08-2019 04:35:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: currently hacking the network of a gang who hates implants. because cyberpunk.
09-08-2019 04:36:24 > parisbre56: that seems like fun
09-08-2019 04:37:34 > parisbre56: (Keanu Reeves is in that cyberpunk 2077 trailer)
09-08-2019 04:37:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: hey paris.
09-08-2019 04:37:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: hey syv.
09-08-2019 04:38:05 > parisbre56: hey hey
09-08-2019 04:38:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: hey dev.
09-08-2019 04:38:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: Just gotta remove the RPG elements.
09-08-2019 04:38:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: ;-p
09-08-2019 04:39:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: remove the RPG elements?
09-08-2019 04:39:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: open-world platformer.
09-08-2019 04:40:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: does that help me understand what you're talking about?
09-08-2019 04:40:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: nope!
09-08-2019 04:40:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: but more freedom.
09-08-2019 04:40:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: >goblin
09-08-2019 04:41:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what exactly are you asking for here?
09-08-2019 04:41:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Conversation, I think.
09-08-2019 04:41:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: mostly.
09-08-2019 04:42:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: plus why not just have everything unlocked?
09-08-2019 04:42:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Conversation is more of a mechanic than platforming in this game.
09-08-2019 04:43:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: ok.
09-08-2019 04:43:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: You don't start with everything unlocked because unlocking stuff is fun.
09-08-2019 04:43:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the game started off with making me do some fistfights, but once that got done I've mostly been running around talking to people and doing sidequests.
09-08-2019 04:43:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I bought some guns but haven't had to use them yet.
09-08-2019 04:44:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: aww.
09-08-2019 04:44:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also because "build variety" or whatever.
09-08-2019 04:44:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Are there sniper rifles?
09-08-2019 04:44:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Same reason why you don't get to use eveery possible thing in an actual RPG.
09-08-2019 04:44:53 > parisbre56: how would you do snipers in a side scroller?
09-08-2019 04:45:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: zoom out?
09-08-2019 04:45:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: You have to put like five points into the gun skill to use shotguns and SMGs, and those are the biggest guns I've seen yet.
09-08-2019 04:45:20 > parisbre56: hmm. maybe
09-08-2019 04:45:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I've seen it done
09-08-2019 04:46:28 > parisbre56: anyway, unlocking stuff means you start out weak so you have a contrast to when you become a cyborg god
09-08-2019 04:46:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: Aww.
09-08-2019 04:46:43 > parisbre56: plus it gives you time to learn something before moving on to the next thing
09-08-2019 04:46:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sexy cyborg god of war
09-08-2019 04:47:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: fighty cyborg god of sex.
09-08-2019 04:47:23 > parisbre56: and some people just like to unlock stuff because it gives them a sense of progress
09-08-2019 04:47:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: ;-p
09-08-2019 04:47:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: That's a fair point, though.
09-08-2019 04:47:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: both of them.
09-08-2019 04:47:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Same way you do sniper rifles in a top-down; extend the view area.
09-08-2019 04:48:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: anyway, I just did a sidequest where I found some hobo on the streets, he had me go get him a bottle of antidepressants, then gave me a virus to put into some vending machines to siphion money from them.
09-08-2019 04:48:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: If he has such a virus, why is he a hobo?
09-08-2019 04:48:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: No asking questions.
09-08-2019 04:49:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: uh, he used to work IT for a megacorp, they kicked him out because he got old and crazy.
09-08-2019 04:49:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: (The other method is to just not even try to make it a proper "sniper" weapon, and just let people pull 360° noscopes)
09-08-2019 04:49:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: he needed us to go do these things for us because he can't step out of his "circle"
09-08-2019 04:50:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: headbomb?
09-08-2019 04:53:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh also, this game has a dark souls dodge roll :P
09-08-2019 04:54:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: How many iframes?
09-08-2019 04:54:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: most of them, I think
09-08-2019 04:56:06 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net blinks
09-08-2019 04:56:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: Hope draggie makes it.
09-08-2019 04:56:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also it's fully voice acted and I'm not sure how to feel about that because not all the voice acting is... great
09-08-2019 04:56:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Better or worse than English Sekiro?
09-08-2019 04:56:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: worse.
09-08-2019 04:56:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Oooo.
09-08-2019 04:57:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also the roll is bound to Q and movement is WASD, which makes rolling right a lot easier than rolling left.
09-08-2019 04:57:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It would make sense to rebind it to space, but space is jump
09-08-2019 04:57:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: jump to q?
09-08-2019 04:58:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Mouse buttons?
09-08-2019 05:06:13 > parisbre56: well, if this follows the standard side scroller tropes you'll mostly be going right anyway
09-08-2019 05:09:05 > parisbre56: reading about cyberpunk 2020: "Rockerboys are the street poets, social consciences and rebels of the 2000’s. With the advent of digital porta-studios and garage laser disk mastering, every Rocker with a message can take it to the street; put it in the record stores, bounce it off the comsats."
09-08-2019 05:09:13 > parisbre56: rockstar bards
09-08-2019 05:09:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cyberpunk is pretty silly
09-08-2019 05:10:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: That writeup makes me want to hurt somebody.
09-08-2019 05:10:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: both the genre in general and cyberpunk 2020 in specific
09-08-2019 05:10:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: yes.
09-08-2019 05:12:22 > parisbre56: yeah, started reading neuromancer recently. The prologue the guy wrote twenty years after the book was written says "I imagine a thirteen year old reading this 30 pages in and saying 'What's all the rush to find a payphone? Why not use a mobile phone?'"
09-08-2019 05:13:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: in the future everyone gets their phones hacked, so they gave up on it.
09-08-2019 05:13:18 > parisbre56: heh
09-08-2019 05:14:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: I tried to read Neuromancer a few years ago.  Maybe... five...?  Four?  Couldn't get through it, some stuff about the setting was just thoroughly unpleasant.
09-08-2019 05:14:56 > parisbre56: I'm still in the first few pages so I can't really offer an opinion
09-08-2019 05:15:08 > parisbre56: is it badly written?
09-08-2019 05:16:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: I wouldn't say that, I just prefer more grounded settings.
09-08-2019 05:17:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Cyberpunk is something that can easily be too silly for me.
09-08-2019 05:19:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: "Also because you're too hesitant to commit not alive."
09-08-2019 05:19:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: That euphemism is almost as good as "commit neck rope."
09-08-2019 05:20:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: Ok.
09-08-2019 05:22:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm
09-08-2019 05:22:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: do you want a stream of Dex?
09-08-2019 05:22:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cause that's a possible thing
09-08-2019 05:22:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: I'm not writing so I won't complain about one, but I make no guarantee that I'll watch.
09-08-2019 05:25:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: aww.
09-08-2019 05:25:11 < * Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net wants more wolf-related content.
09-08-2019 05:25:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: ;-p
09-08-2019 05:27:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wolfie pls
09-08-2019 05:30:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: Sophia is entertaining.
09-08-2019 05:47:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: As is Ada.
09-08-2019 05:47:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: "She is more like a cat than a human."
09-08-2019 05:47:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Guess Sophia is a catgirl.
09-08-2019 05:47:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: out of everyone in PS, Sophia is the most cyberpunk~
09-08-2019 05:48:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I can hack your brains, man.
09-08-2019 05:48:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Mmm.
09-08-2019 05:48:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: She can't even figure out how to unlock the smartphone she's carrying...
09-08-2019 05:48:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: Just being dickish with that.  ;-p
09-08-2019 05:48:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: 'this person is a cat'
09-08-2019 05:49:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Well does Ada like cats?
09-08-2019 05:49:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: That'd be a complement, coming from me.
09-08-2019 05:49:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Humans are terrible, but cats, at least cats are soft.
09-08-2019 05:55:04 > parisbre56: cats are cool
09-08-2019 05:55:17 > parisbre56: recently adopted a kitten
09-08-2019 05:55:26 > parisbre56: such a silly thing
09-08-2019 05:55:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: humans are a little soft
09-08-2019 05:55:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: is it fluffy?
09-08-2019 05:56:00 > parisbre56: somewhat
09-08-2019 05:56:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: kittens
09-08-2019 05:56:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: <3
09-08-2019 05:57:38 -!- parisbre56 is now known as parisbre56[Away]
09-08-2019 06:09:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: some of these implants are marked as "advanced" and I have no idea what that means
09-08-2019 06:09:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and it's not explained in the "implants" tutorial
09-08-2019 06:11:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, I just had to exit out of the buy menu and talk to the same guy again to ask about advanced implants. simple.
09-08-2019 06:12:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: what does it mean?
09-08-2019 06:13:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it means another sidequest if I want those. :P
09-08-2019 06:14:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: anyway, jumpy legs gotten first, of course
09-08-2019 06:18:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, the turret control mainframe is defended by virtual turrets.
09-08-2019 06:19:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how's that for recursion?
09-08-2019 06:20:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Can you hack the virtual turrets and fight virtual virtual turrets?
09-08-2019 06:20:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: unfortunately, not yet
09-08-2019 06:40:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: MY VISION IS AUGMENTED
09-08-2019 06:41:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: So's mine.
09-08-2019 06:41:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: It's augmented from "kinda shit at a distance" to "fairly decent", through the use of fancy glass.
09-08-2019 06:42:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I can see dudes through walls!
09-08-2019 06:43:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Ah.  That's better than my augmentation, though not absurdly so.
09-08-2019 06:43:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Mine lets me see dudes through air, which is pretty neat.
09-08-2019 06:51:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh
09-08-2019 06:52:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: find a dying guy, I can use my healing pills, healing syringe, or medkit on him. I wonder if they all work or if it'll be better if I use the bigger heal item.
09-08-2019 06:53:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh well, we'll use our medkit on him because we're nice.
09-08-2019 06:53:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Bigger heal, it's expendable.
09-08-2019 06:54:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not like I was ever gonna use a fullheal anyways~
09-08-2019 06:55:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heh
09-08-2019 06:55:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: his name is navarro
09-08-2019 06:55:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: never seen that name outside ER
09-08-2019 07:00:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wait, the submachine gun in this game apparently has a 12 round magazine
09-08-2019 07:01:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: found that from picking a magazine up.
09-08-2019 07:02:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: That seems iffy.
09-08-2019 07:02:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: There anything like that IRL, syv?
09-08-2019 07:03:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: anyway, used some C4 to blow up a drug lab for 500 credits
09-08-2019 07:03:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: as ya do
09-08-2019 07:04:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Uhh.  The definition of "submachinegun" is iffy, but I know of none that have such a small mag, offhand.
09-08-2019 07:04:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: It's not all *that* unreasonable.  Heavy caliber, but you want it to be concealable?  Sure.
09-08-2019 07:05:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: No reason that you couldn't just have a nonstandard short mag, too.
09-08-2019 07:10:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Skorpion apparently has a 10-round mag available.
09-08-2019 07:11:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ooh
09-08-2019 07:11:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0korpion#/media/File%3ASkorpion_PICT0107.jpg
09-08-2019 07:11:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just "found" an aforementioned SMG in a locked box next to the corpses of some gangsters that I stealth killed
09-08-2019 07:12:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: one at a time, quietly, like a predator.
09-08-2019 07:12:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: anyway, free SMG!
09-08-2019 07:13:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also, I can't use it because I need level 4 guns and that's pretty much the only thing that I haven't leveled
09-08-2019 07:13:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Seems to be intended to make the gun carryable as a pistol.  Larger mags are impractical to holster.
09-08-2019 07:13:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: what
09-08-2019 07:13:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Of all things, you haven't leveled GUNS?
09-08-2019 07:14:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well yeah, I've been leveling punchiness and toughness
09-08-2019 07:14:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and been trying to do things sneakilly, which means hacking and strngling
09-08-2019 07:18:18 -!- parisbre56[Away] is now known as parisbre56
09-08-2019 07:18:44 > parisbre56: being unable to use guns sounds weird. make them usable but also make it so that you're likely to shoot your leg
09-08-2019 07:20:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I can use pistols with no skill, but it makes me invest some to use longer guns
09-08-2019 07:21:11 > parisbre56: "I need 500xp to learn where the trigger is. Otherwise I can only use this to bash dudes in the head."
09-08-2019 07:21:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: *shrug*
09-08-2019 07:21:49 > parisbre56: I understand, RPG
09-08-2019 07:21:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: iz arr pee gee
09-08-2019 07:22:05 > parisbre56: but it's fun to poke fun at the silliness of game conventions
09-08-2019 07:23:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Man, I had not realized just how terrible the Skorpion is.  Was.  10 or 20 rounds, of *.32 ACP*, automatic, but twice as long and heavy as a normal pistol.  Arguably the folding stock and foregripish magazine would make it better, but you've still got low capacity and power for the bulk.
09-08-2019 07:24:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: The stechkin automatic pistol was designed eight years earlier, was 9mm, and *also* had 20 round mags.  So more power, but lighter and shorter, making it actually holsterable in a normal way.
09-08-2019 07:25:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Of course it'd be a hell of a lot less controllable, but I have doubts about the Skorpion's effectiveness at range.  It's still not a proper SMG.
09-08-2019 07:25:40 > parisbre56: Well, I guess it's a case of "we got this gun, let's make it so everything"
09-08-2019 07:25:47 > parisbre56: *do everything
09-08-2019 07:26:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: More a case of "We want a submachine gun that is as tiny as possible", and in the process they lost much of the advantage an SMG has over a machine pistol...
09-08-2019 07:27:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Though I am comparing a Czech design to a Soviet design, which is totally unfair.
09-08-2019 07:28:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wait, is a machine pistion not just a SMG that's as tiny as possible?
09-08-2019 07:29:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: They're scrappy terms.  A machine pistol is a pistol which is fully automatic.  A submachine gun is a machine gun firing a pistol caliber.  A machine gun is, strictly speaking, an automatic gun.  They therefore aren't mutually exclusive, but don't mean the same thing.
09-08-2019 07:31:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what does "automatic" technically mean anyway
09-08-2019 07:31:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: You pull the trigger once and multiple bullets come out.
09-08-2019 07:31:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, so a double barrel can be automatic? :D
09-08-2019 07:32:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Fine.  You pull the trigger once, multiple cartridges are fired from the same chamber.
09-08-2019 07:32:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Duplex rounds do not a machine gun make... though maybe they would legally, somewhere.  I'unno.
09-08-2019 07:32:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: more bullet more betterer
09-08-2019 07:33:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: The Skorpion sorta falls right in the space between the two, though it's closer to machine pistol I suppose.  It's just a worse design IMO than pistols that are really only differentiated from regular pistols by being automatic, like the Stechkin, Glock 18, or M93R.
09-08-2019 07:33:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the skorpion was in MGS3
09-08-2019 07:33:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Also fucking ten rounds of .32 ACP, what?
09-08-2019 07:34:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's probably enough to kill someone :V
09-08-2019 07:34:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Oh, absolutely, but it's huge for a ten round pistol.  You can fit like seven rounds of .32 in the palm of your hand.
09-08-2019 07:35:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: I met a guy once who had a .32 pistol smaller than his wallet (it was also attached to his wallet) with a seven round mag.
09-08-2019 07:35:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sounds like a florida man to me
09-08-2019 07:36:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Well yes.
09-08-2019 07:37:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: But still, issuing a three pound bulky machine pistol, in the military, with ten rounds of .32, is... what?
09-08-2019 07:37:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: standard.
09-08-2019 07:38:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: military intelligence is an ozymoron, after all.
09-08-2019 07:39:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: more or less meaningless?
09-08-2019 07:41:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: ...Mark 23, a modern pistol intended for SOCOM, but generally disliked due to its large frame and weight, has a similar weight and dimensions, but a 12-round mag of .45 ACP.  Not automatic, and no stock or foregrip, but there you go.  Much much more boom, in the same weight, and it's maligned for being too big.
09-08-2019 07:41:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Bleh.
09-08-2019 07:41:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: that seems a lot bigger.
09-08-2019 07:43:36 > parisbre56: kitten killing a bear: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/498911503986982912/609285706250190848/IMG_20190809_102336.jpg
09-08-2019 07:43:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: D'awww!
09-08-2019 07:44:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: What's it's name?
09-08-2019 07:44:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: and does it matter?
09-08-2019 07:44:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: kill kitty, kill!
09-08-2019 07:44:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: and yes, cute kitty.
09-08-2019 07:47:02 > parisbre56: we're calling her Kiara but she mostly listens to Come, Food and Play
09-08-2019 07:47:20 > parisbre56: a little more than 3 months old
09-08-2019 07:49:57 > parisbre56: I see dragon game demands murder. Despite being injured and disoriented. Let's see if luck is with our poor little dragon
09-08-2019 07:51:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: murder good.
09-08-2019 07:52:07 > parisbre56: also, ER, does Sophia actually look like she is going to follow Ada? just so I know how to RP this
09-08-2019 07:52:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yeah.
09-08-2019 07:54:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: is dragon ok?
09-08-2019 07:56:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oops, looks like I picked up a quest item too soon by breaking into a highrise apartment because I can
09-08-2019 07:56:18 > parisbre56: dragon rolled amazingly well
09-08-2019 07:56:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: yay
09-08-2019 07:56:55 > parisbre56: maybe I should had said "I dunno, you'll see~" to make it more suspenseful
09-08-2019 07:59:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@m693-784-15-547.bchsia.telus.net: well, we might get to eat that person entirely, which will be a first.
09-08-2019 08:03:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: good thing that ceiling turrets can't see on their own, so I only have to deal with the cameras. :P
09-08-2019 08:04:20 > parisbre56: That sounds like a terrible design decision
09-08-2019 08:04:25 > parisbre56: good Gameplay though
09-08-2019 08:04:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think they can see on their own once they're active.
09-08-2019 08:04:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and they're always deployed alongside cameras
09-08-2019 08:05:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this was a condo equipped with three cameras and two guns, so I'd say it's pretty well defended.
09-08-2019 08:05:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not against a super cool cyberpunk mind-hacker, though~
09-08-2019 08:20:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: I really hate how the Russians come up with such great guns and then attach their horribly outdated POS-1s with siderails.
09-08-2019 08:21:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heh, POS
09-08-2019 08:22:19 > parisbre56: that thing you put credit cards in?
09-08-2019 08:22:30 > parisbre56: I guess that's a new definition of Pay to Win
09-08-2019 08:22:34 > parisbre56: :P
09-08-2019 08:22:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: wait what?
09-08-2019 08:23:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I was punning on Piece Of Shit, Paris is punning on Point Of Service
09-08-2019 08:23:27 > parisbre56: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_terminal
09-08-2019 08:23:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: coincidentally I once worked with a machine that was both!~
09-08-2019 08:24:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Russians use the PSO-1 scope, which was pretty when it was originally made... six decades ago.  Nowadays it's terribly terribly outdated, so calling it a POS is more accurate.
09-08-2019 08:24:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Also, it's mounted via a quick-detach side rail which doesn't occlude the iron sights.
09-08-2019 08:24:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: And that's neat and all, but it's still a bad tradeoff.
09-08-2019 08:25:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: *was pretty great
09-08-2019 08:25:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but was it also pretty?
09-08-2019 08:26:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: Well, yes.  The original SVD is an exceptionally sexy design.
09-08-2019 08:27:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@juzqik-256-267-770-216.mycingular.net: https://st4.depositphotos.com/1035297/20610/i/1600/depositphotos_206104582-stock-photo-svd-sniper-rifle-isolated.jpg
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09-08-2019 09:11:53 > parisbre56: s is just saying "You" now
09-08-2019 09:11:57 > parisbre56: heh
09-08-2019 09:12:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no u
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09-08-2019 10:06:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: alright, I leveled enough to use the shotgun and SMG
09-08-2019 10:06:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the SMG is tiny. it HAS a foregrip, but Dex doesn't use it
09-08-2019 10:06:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just holds it like a pistol
09-08-2019 10:07:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so yeah, it's pretty much a Skorpian. :P
09-08-2019 14:24:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: protip
09-08-2019 14:25:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if you're making a game with janky easy stealth and janky hard combat, don't make enemies immune to stealth takedowns.
09-08-2019 14:25:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's not making anything more fun
09-08-2019 14:42:34 -!- parisbre56[Away] is now known as parisbre56
09-08-2019 14:42:41 > parisbre56: https://youtu.be/UpbOLslQJt4
09-08-2019 14:42:43 -!- parisbre56 is now known as parisbre56[Away]
09-08-2019 15:37:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: k
09-08-2019 15:37:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nice budget deus ex there
09-08-2019 15:38:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it leaves me with zero desire to ever play it again, which is fine~
09-08-2019 16:14:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nice to see that Ada and Sophia can bond over fantasising about hurting bad people
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